@kaolis
Nope, absolutely doesn’t suck. I’m just stingy pulling those corks.
I’d like to say I’d get tired of these if once a week; nah, not likely.
That’s a Snake River Wagyu we got as a gift from the kids.
@kaolis@ScottW58 It was a leftover, and swmbo chose that one for dinner over the Corison, and I finished it off; at least she didn’t ask for a moscato.
The Corison got an Ar treatment to see another day, or two.
@rjquillin was looking to pull a Corison for Xmas dinner but ended up with a solid head cold and it would have wasted!
Maybe I’ll pull one for New Years to make up for it, assuming I can get past this congestion.
@InFrom
Yeah! Your annual NYE cheese celebration. You’re going to love it! Did you get the ginger preserves? If so, fantastic pairing. You’ll have to let us know what you think.
@InFrom Still have a '06 victory Mag awaiting opening. I also had a '99 which we drank sometime in 2017 and another year which is failing my memory at this time.
@ScottW58 I’m glad you’re enjoying your xmas music!
I might need to get more Morgan Ranch…that stuff was really good. Looking forward to seeing what they do for BD. With two whole rib sides ageing in my garage fridge, I’m going to have to make some freezer space!
@klezman@ScottW58 Oh wow does that look awesome. Just a tad of marbling huh? Might do a little lower temp with my 5 pounder with less fat to render. I’ve been buying quite a bit of Morgan Ranch, the strips are crazy good.
@ScottW58 Followed your lead, just backed it off to 225 or so for the smaller roast. Hit 120 at about 2 3/4 hours. No sear, seasoned liberally overnight and I was ok with that. Tented for 30 minutes. Wine was good, fine with the roast, but not outstanding.
@rjquillin
Turns out not so much. When we first looked at the house, there was a flower arrangement in front of the fireplace and the inside was filled with cobwebs, so it appeared as if it hadn’t been used for years. The chimney sweep said it might not have been used for a long time but was fairly clean. It was still good to get it done for peace of mind and he took care of some wasps that were getting ready to over-winter up near the chimney cap.
@chipgreen@rjquillin Good to get done. When we bought our current house, I had the chimney swept and then inspected (via video cam) to be comfortable that everything was ok. I use ours a lot (to avoid using propane as much as possible) and have it cleaned every spring.
@InFrom I feel like it’s time to use more of this year’s BD finds to make room for next year’s. I have loved every bottle of the Suzor.
Can I just tell you what I made for dinner tonight? What we had to work with was half a supermarket rotisserie chicken and a bag of arugala from Trader Joe’s. I took inspiration from Zuni Cafe’s roast chicken with bread salad, minus the bread. I made a vinaigrette, coated the chicken with some of it and threw the rest on the arugala, along with some rehydrated craisins. Should have thrown some chopped-up pecans in there as well. I did a kind of mini-brick to the chicken – I put it in a hot pan with a heavy pan on top of it for a couple of minutes on each side to crisp it up, then took out the chicken and lightly sauteed some sliced garlic, threw the garlic on the salad, plated the salad and chicken, deglazed the pan with chicken broth and poured that over the whole shebang. Better than a supermarket bird had any right to be. The wine was great with it.
Popping a 2004 Corison Napa Valley to have with our Flannery rib steaks. Then going to end the evening and year with a 2004 Pillitteri Cab Franc Icewine.
@klezman Hey, that’s what we ordered, too! Usually we do it on the day itself, after dim sum and a movie, but we’re giving that a miss again this year.
I opened the Emergencier Holiday Provisions, I found one last bottle in a box. Very enjoyable at this point, much more than I remember liking it originally.
@InFrom Happy birth of another Jew day
Yeah, we haven’t gone for dim sum in ages but there’s a fantastic dumpling delivery company out here now staffed by former cooked from Din Tai Fung. There are many dumplings in my freezer at the moment.
@rjquillin - The winemaker thought it was worth mentioning - i.e., a bit out of the ordinary - that the grapes were harvested at (a bit, I suspect) over 23 degrees Brix… now, anything under 24.5 would be noteworthy for most wineries…. And people wonder why alcohols have gone up so much. Perfect ripeness, and wines which, in a good year, last well over 40 years, even with less than perfect storage.
And, while 1978 was a very, very fine year - esp in Sonoma County - it wasn’t even close to 1970, let alone 1941!
One of the few wineries I really like their stuff on the young side - 2019 Sandlands Zinfandel. With pork tenderloin, roasted cauliflower, and latkes. Keepin’ it kosher…
2014 Twisted Oak Bearded Dragon
From my Random Red case This is another excellent bottle from my case. Drinking very well. Haven’t had a disappointment yet.
While Andrea and I were mooching off the generosity of @danandlisa as we were traveling up the Oregon coast last summer they opened a bottle of this for us and it impressed! Had to pick up a few bottles, lovely with smoked chicken leg quarters
…with burgers and fries from Bob’s Hamburg. Akron’s oldest continuously operating restaurant, dating back to 1931. Albeit with new owners as our friend and former co-worker who owned it for ~5 years passed away unexpectedly 6 months ago.
Christmas Eve dinner - amazing dinner with cod, olives, chorizo, potatoes, tomatoes and bread crumbs - perfectly paired with the 2006 Buena Vista Ramal Vineyards Pinot Noir - from the 2008 rpm Magical History Tour. A truly great Pinot, mature, but with wonderful fresh fruit flavours suggesting it has at least 5 years before peak and and another 5 to 10 years after that. As good a California Pinot Noir as I have tasted at least 30 years. Hints of strawberries and red currants, with rose petals as a dominant bottle bouquet note…. Veterans of the 2008 Tour will remember me saying this was at least the equivalent of a good Premier Cru Burgundy… it’s good I qualified it by “at least” because at this stage in its life it’s closer to Grand Cru quality. I was going to post a picture of the bottle, but I can’t figure it out on my iPhone.
@pjmartin@rjquillin That’s some stroke of luck! I never got any 2013 Mohrhardt and only 1 bottle of the 2012. That’s my favourite of the Wellington single vineyards, too.
Fired up old faithful the PBC for the first time in a while and hung some ribs, delicious and started with one of Kelley’s wines and ribs with and old favorite Morisfarms sangio. Kelly Fox 12.5 ABV and Morisfarms 13.0 ABV. I don’t seem to have any trouble finding lower alc wines
2013 Keller Estate Syrah Rotie
First wine in nearly a week, but a leftover bottle in the fridge from ???
Been down since Monday with something like the flu. Peaked at nearly 39°C a few days ago and negative for the nasty. Good to be vertical again but dreading the work backup come Monday.
Lasst round of leftover turkey and stuffing with 1991 Ravenswood Zinfandel Sonoma County
Amazing how well Joel made these. 14.3% alcohol. Still got some fruit but lots of tertiary characteristics.
@CorTot it was very much strawberries and cream. Simple but enjoyable. If it is the RGP, the drinking window is years out so hoping for more down the road. As it stood today, not worth 3x the price of TJs brut rosè, for example.
@bunnymasseuse@klezman
Seriously, not much a fan of oysters?
Years ago, Ren Faire time, a couple dozen of those were, washed down with Guinness, breakfast.
@danandlisa@ScottW58 My MD RenFaire days were maryland crab soup in a bread bowl, a turkey leg and the Linganore Vineyards “Their Oughta Be A Law” wine in a goblet!
@InFrom
Woof I remember that one, it was my first Ped zin and my last Not that they don’t make great zins I just never got over it you should sleep well tho…
@InFrom@rjquillin A well made Zin in the classical style should easily go 10-15 years, and 20+ for the best. Just check out the Ravenswood library and older Ridge and Harvest Moon.
@rjquillin How’s it doing? Classical, it ain’t. Cherryish, and getting sweeter by the minute. Looking forward to enjoying the last of it with dessert. CT says I have two more, but I have no idea where, and that’s ok.
I have a number of lovely Zins, but I thought they would have been overpowered by our Szechuan dinner. I’ll save the lovely ones for a lovely meal some other time.
@kawichris650@InFrom@KarenHynes@klezman@rc70
Too funny. Was sorting thru boxes when I found the loose D&R, and found a couple of 3L 2014 Boxx Cellars Sangiovese in a box from the old site, sold a bit more that four years ago. Never made it to CT, marketed by AH Wines but it’s Cellared and Packed by Vino Noceto. Wonder how it’s aged…
What was the thought process that made you buy it?
@ScottW58
Four bottles of Sangio apparently from Noceto;
Cheap (probably)?
No air contact, can drain it a glass at a time;
Easily portable?
Perfect for an office party-type event. Back when we were still having those.
Apart from that, please note, it’s not a 3L box of wine, it’s a couple. I’m guessing you’re even less likely to buy two 3L boxes of wine?
4 at best acceptable bottles 1 glass at a time would take too long and you would get tired of it.
not so sure about lugging that box around as being easily portable
Do you really want to be the guy that brought a 3l box of wine to a party?
How long would it take you to use 3 liters in cooking?
So the only possible use would be if you were 17 or 18 years old bringing a 3 liter box of wine to a party would make you the king of the neighborhood for life
@InFrom@kawichris650@klezman@rc70@rjquillin@ScottW58
So…how long do we really think boxed wine can be kept once opened? General consensus on a quick Google search seems to be about 6 weeks, which is certainly a long time compared to an opened bottle (unless sealed under argon or similar protection). I must admit that I’ve never bought boxed wine though I do like the concept. They’re just too big for this single gal to fathom opening and using in a reasonable time period.
@InFrom@karenhynes@kawichris650@klezman@rc70@ScottW58
It does have a hand-hold punchout on the side.
Gift or the free table at work, but clearly that didn’t happen. The PG did get given away and was well received. I have a few acquaintances that are a bit more about quantity than quality.
@InFrom@karenhynes@kawichris650@rc70@rjquillin@ScottW58 I could make a nice coq au vin or braised short rib or ragu and use a whole bottle for a single meal. Or there’s always a mulled wine cranberry sauce if you need to use a whole bottle.
But yeah, if you only have 6 weeks to use it then it’s a stretch even for cooking.
Staying with the Moon concept from a recent clue 2002 Moon Mountain Vineyard Syrah
pristine cork from an Invino purchase nearly 10 years ago when they were clearing these out.
Deliciousness. Oh, hindsight…
Dal Forno Romano Valpolicella, 2013.
On pop-n-pour, the nose is amazing.
The wine is a little too dry/old-world.
Italian for dinner, so it should be nice.
Hot “Apple Jacks” for the 50th anniversary of the Monument lightning in Downtown B’more tonight.
Consists of:
4-5 McIntosh apples
Single barrel jack Daniels
Winter Jack Jack Daniels
Apple Liquor from Germany (Berentzen)
Cinnamon
*optional Downeast cider of your choice, suggest their Winter Blend
Throw in Vitamix and put on purée or highest setting until it’s hot and steaming… serve and be ready to sleep in 30min wherever you pass out!
@radiolysis so here’s what I normally start with:
3oz of Single Barrel JD (flex to 5oz if you want a faster sleep time! Lol )
1.5-2oz of Winter Jack
1.5-2oz of the Apple Liquor from Germany (if your apples are Red or Yellow Delicious you may need more to compensate)
12 oz can of cider (if you go that route)
Cinnamon to taste or what you normally like in a pumpkin pie….
2014 Red Newt Cellars Riesling The Knoll Lahoma Vineyards
Going to cook up some dumplings with chili oil! Yum.
BTW, if anybody wants a referral code for delicious dumplings, this’ll get you $5 off and me $5 off later. https://yummidumplings.com?referral_code=aR78ry9jtGrAxyXZA
@ScottW58 We were club members for a lot of years and very happy, but dropped out as prices and minimum orders were chewing up too much of the budget. This particular bottle was supposed to have crossed into the drinking window but still may have been in a mute period. Very low key. I have others that I will continue to hold.
@marikar
Nice! I have 1 left as well. One of the darkest Rose wines I have seen. CT shows vintages from 2017, 2018 and 2019. Maybe @WineDavid49 could talk Lucas into an offer?
@danandlisa
Ugh why don’t you stick a knife in my heart funny I was going to tag you in that post but I knew you would confirm exactly what you did you are correct after telling Andrea this she’s almost there hope you guys are well! Then again if your eating crab for breakfast life is good!
@ScottW58 Dan is eating crab. I can’t stand it. I know, I am weird. We are crazy busy with my job, moving the shop, and other stuff. Hope you both are well.
@kaolis I really liked it. Tegan gets amazingly deep wines from these without the high alcohol of his day job. And it drinks surprisingly well young, too.
@klezman Thanks. Pretty sure I have a couple I’ll have to pull one. I buy a few but have only popped a smattering of them. I’ve had more chenins than reds.
@kaolis I just got on the mailing list recently and I’m trying to figure out what sorts of things to buy and which ones may improve with age. Strangely, I am not yet finding that I need to age these, which is very unusual for wines released 1.5-2 years post-harvest.
'13 Paris Valley Road “Founder’s Blend” red and '14 Sterling Syrah. (Both earlier CaseMates selections.) The PVR Red was open from last night; it hadn’t changed much. It currently is drinking very well, IMO. I’m sorry that I only have one more bottle. This was good stuff.
The Sterling Syrah is excellent, even better than the PVR. Both are wines that “fill the mouth”. If only they had more prominent oak, they’d be even better. A sip of these beauties and you know you’re drinking quality wines. Life is good.
Last night cooked a turkey and had a 2008 Rivers Marie Summa Vineyard Pinot Noir
Tonight, not sure what I’m making yet, but having half of a 2018 Duemani Cabernet Franc CiFRA. Surely it’s too young, but I need to evaluate it.
Then I’ll find something to toast my fantasy football victory, too. Unless Dallas scores around 6 field goals in the second half.
Congrats, enjoy your victory. My team was lucky to make it this far, what with all the mental breakdowns, vehicular homicides, injuries and Covid victims!
@chipgreen I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many TDs in a single game! And getting 8+ points on PAT?! Crazy. And there was an hour or two this afternoon where I thought you had me.
Mental breakdowns and vehicular homicides? Oy.
And if you’d have told me that I should have played Jaylen Waddle or Amon-Ra St. Brown instead of Tyreek Hill this week…really? Crazy season for sure.
@klezman
OK, only 1 each of the mental breakdowns (Calvin Ridley) and vehicular homicides (Henry Ruggs) but it was a seaon-long battle to field a competitive team each week! Good luck in the Championship game.
@chipgreen Shows how much I pay attention to the broader NFL…I had no idea those things happened.
Thanks! And good luck beating team San Jose for the bronze!
NV Moutard Brut Rosé de Cuvaison to celebrate the 8pm New Year.
@klezman had the regular Brut at the gathering and i really enjoyred it. My “local” wine shop had both that one and the rosé! So i bought the rosé, naturally.
@radiolysis Very nice! I don’t think I’ve seen the rose anywhere. I got mine at LA Wine Company. We’ve also been on a Champagne kick the last year or so…
@klezman San Diego Wine & Beer had a few cases of the brut and maybe one more case of rosé. The shelf talker said they didn’t get much of the rosé to begin with.
@InFrom@ScottW58
Local Mom & Pop place that has been in the same spot since 1963. It is really good but there are other pizza places that have been raising the bar recently as evidenced by them not winning any of those awards the last 2 years.
1992 Corison Cabernet Sauvignon
and finishing up the Moon Mountain '02 Syrah
@rjquillin I’m thinking doesn’t suck on the suck doesn’t suck scale…
@kaolis @rjquillin
Looks great Ron! Assuming the Corison was great why the moon mountain?
@kaolis
Nope, absolutely doesn’t suck. I’m just stingy pulling those corks.
I’d like to say I’d get tired of these if once a week; nah, not likely.
That’s a Snake River Wagyu we got as a gift from the kids.
@kaolis @ScottW58 It was a leftover, and swmbo chose that one for dinner over the Corison, and I finished it off; at least she didn’t ask for a moscato.
The Corison got an Ar treatment to see another day, or two.
@rjquillin was looking to pull a Corison for Xmas dinner but ended up with a solid head cold and it would have wasted!
Maybe I’ll pull one for New Years to make up for it, assuming I can get past this congestion.
After doing some organizing, I realized I haven’t opened up one of these in a long time. Happy Wellington Wednesday!
@kawichris650
Those were quite tasty
@kawichris650 Had one recently. Very good.
Started out with a 2010 Iron Horse Winter’s Cuvee and some charcuterie.
That disappeared quickly, so we opened a 2012 Handley Cellars Chardonnay.
Enjoyed that while waiting for the Roast Beast.
At last! Beast feast along with bowtie pasta and some Brussel sprouts with honey, bacon and parmesan.
Oh, and a delicious 2008 Roessler Pinot Noir “Laurelwood” from the Willamette Valley.
Finished up with a 2009 Wellington England Crest Syrah as we segued into dessert trays of cheesecake and cookies.
Merry Christmas 'mates!
@chipgreenI enjoy that your posts begin with “Started out with…”
@chipgreen Nicely done! Merry Christmas!
@chipgreen @klezman nice line up! how did the Handley hold up?
@klezman @Winedavid49
The Handley tasted great! I was already a fan of their Pinots and now I am a fan of their Chardonnay as well.
@chipgreen @klezman i haven’t called on them in a while. good reminder!
@CorTot Well, happy new year to you!
@CorTot @InFrom
Nice!
I almost opened an '03…maybe tomorrow.
@CorTot @InFrom @karenhynes Very nice! Considered that exact wine but then decided I wanted to give it a couple more years.
2008 Wellington Victory. This is the first Victory i’ve cracked, and 2008 is my largest holding. Fantastic bottle.
Get together with friends.
And the Briceland 2015 PV
With the Jasper Hill Farm Conundrum Harbison, Winnemere, and Zing ginger preserves. Delicious!!
@chefjess Hey, look what I got!! The cheese guy hooked me up with 1/4 of the wheel.
@InFrom
Yeah! Your annual NYE cheese celebration. You’re going to love it! Did you get the ginger preserves? If so, fantastic pairing. You’ll have to let us know what you think.
2012 Iron Horse Brut X…it’s midnight somewhere,right?
@karenhynes
Happy New Year, somewhere!
With @ddeuddeg chicken recipe from last night nice! Just Andrea and I at home watching movies tonight, life is good!
@rc70 one of my favorites!
Pulled out the big guns tonight
2001 Wellington Victory signed by Peter
Still holding up VERY well!!
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@sosptuba
@sosptuba Taking comments on the fate of signed, empty bottles over here. New perspectives welcome. My two are still here, collecting dust.
@InFrom Still have a '06 victory Mag awaiting opening. I also had a '99 which we drank sometime in 2017 and another year which is failing my memory at this time.
@InFrom @sosptuba I sadly had to open my mag of 2006 very early because they shipped it (from woot) in the dead of summer and it was heat damaged.
With a Morgan ranch rib roast, I love Christmas Eve with the family! And the music
damn right I smoked it.
@ScottW58 Not Morgan Ranch but throwing a 5 pound 2 rib in the Smokin-it tomorrow…any tips? I do know I’m going light on the smoke. Probably cherry.
@kaolis
Yes I did cherry too! Took it to 120 can’t wait to start eating.
@ScottW58 I’m glad you’re enjoying your xmas music!
I might need to get more Morgan Ranch…that stuff was really good. Looking forward to seeing what they do for BD. With two whole rib sides ageing in my garage fridge, I’m going to have to make some freezer space!
@kaolis
Oh and I smoked it at 250 7lbs it took about 3hrs
@klezman @ScottW58 Notre Vin everywhere I look these days. Can’t wait to try them.
@klezman You will be happy if you do
Merry Christmas!
@klezman @ScottW58 Oh wow does that look awesome. Just a tad of marbling huh? Might do a little lower temp with my 5 pounder with less fat to render. I’ve been buying quite a bit of Morgan Ranch, the strips are crazy good.
HIKING! VIKINGS! STRIKE KING [BRAND FISHING LURES]! AWESOME!
@kaolis
That is beautiful! Nice work, how did you do it any tips for me? Looks like a great paring too?
@ScottW58 Followed your lead, just backed it off to 225 or so for the smaller roast. Hit 120 at about 2 3/4 hours. No sear, seasoned liberally overnight and I was ok with that. Tented for 30 minutes. Wine was good, fine with the roast, but not outstanding.
Was finally able to get a chimney sweep, so with our first fire in the fireplace at our new house…
Domaine Collin Cremant de Limoux Brut Cuvee Rose
@chipgreen nice
@chipgreen Congrats on the move, I can’t even imagine…
Did you really need the sweep?
@rjquillin
Turns out not so much. When we first looked at the house, there was a flower arrangement in front of the fireplace and the inside was filled with cobwebs, so it appeared as if it hadn’t been used for years. The chimney sweep said it might not have been used for a long time but was fairly clean. It was still good to get it done for peace of mind and he took care of some wasps that were getting ready to over-winter up near the chimney cap.
@chipgreen @rjquillin Good to get done. When we bought our current house, I had the chimney swept and then inspected (via video cam) to be comfortable that everything was ok. I use ours a lot (to avoid using propane as much as possible) and have it cleaned every spring.
2017 Suzor Pinot Noir, Menefee Vineyards
@InFrom I feel like it’s time to use more of this year’s BD finds to make room for next year’s. I have loved every bottle of the Suzor.
Can I just tell you what I made for dinner tonight? What we had to work with was half a supermarket rotisserie chicken and a bag of arugala from Trader Joe’s. I took inspiration from Zuni Cafe’s roast chicken with bread salad, minus the bread. I made a vinaigrette, coated the chicken with some of it and threw the rest on the arugala, along with some rehydrated craisins. Should have thrown some chopped-up pecans in there as well. I did a kind of mini-brick to the chicken – I put it in a hot pan with a heavy pan on top of it for a couple of minutes on each side to crisp it up, then took out the chicken and lightly sauteed some sliced garlic, threw the garlic on the salad, plated the salad and chicken, deglazed the pan with chicken broth and poured that over the whole shebang. Better than a supermarket bird had any right to be. The wine was great with it.
…moving on…
2004 Corison Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley.
@karenhynes Always a great choice…special occasion? Or is there something we should take from “moving on”?
@klezman
Nah…just a typical Friday night at Casa de Karen
Honestly…i just felt like it.
@karenhynes @klezman Melissa wasn’t cutting it? Or just feeling like enjoying something a little more rewarding?
Oh! Maybe Melissa was finita?
@InFrom @klezman
Melissa was a nice starter…
@karenhynes @klezman
@InFrom @klezman
Pairs exceptionally well with dark chocolate brownies and vanilla bean ice cream. There’s a splash of the Corison in the brownies.
@karenhynes
Yummm!!!
I’m calling it Twisted Tempranillo Tuesday!
@kawichris650
That was a screaming deal purchase.
Still drinking them.
Moar @winedavid49
@kawichris650 @rjquillin indeed.
With a bone in Pork rib roast, homemade sourdough, garlic green beans, English peas from our garden and wild rice. Merry Christmas!
@CorTot You found some up your way?
Still holding additional bottles for ya.
@rjquillin I had ordered these a couple years ago during a winery sale.
Popping a 2004 Corison Napa Valley to have with our Flannery rib steaks. Then going to end the evening and year with a 2004 Pillitteri Cab Franc Icewine.
Chinese takeout for New Year’s Eve dinner, along with Sonoma Royalty…
The Duke & Duchess graced our table!
At midnight, we popped one of these…
Francoise Bedel, Dis, “Vin Secret”.
2010 Wellington Vineyards Zinfandel Meeks Hilltop Ranch
This was purchased back in April… of 2015.
On the old site (obviously) and it’s still drinking beautifully.
Finishing the second half of a
2004 WineSmith Cabernet Sauvignon Penny Farthing
This is impressive stuff!
Friends are coming over shortly and I have no idea what I’m going to open. We’re going to do the traditional Jewish thing and order Szechuan food
@klezman Hey, that’s what we ordered, too! Usually we do it on the day itself, after dim sum and a movie, but we’re giving that a miss again this year.
I opened the Emergencier Holiday Provisions, I found one last bottle in a box. Very enjoyable at this point, much more than I remember liking it originally.
@InFrom Happy birth of another Jew day
Yeah, we haven’t gone for dim sum in ages but there’s a fantastic dumpling delivery company out here now staffed by former cooked from Din Tai Fung. There are many dumplings in my freezer at the moment.
@msten We’re finishing an '08.
Tonight: 1978 Clos du Bois Marlstone
Beautiful wine still very much alive and well… 54% Cabernet Sauvignon and 46% Merlot. Alexander Valley.
@rpm 13 and 12.8; numbers from the past.
@rjquillin @rpm Wind Gap, if you can find any of them, have numbers like that. As does Sandlands. Projects worth checking out if you haven’t before!
@rjquillin - The winemaker thought it was worth mentioning - i.e., a bit out of the ordinary - that the grapes were harvested at (a bit, I suspect) over 23 degrees Brix… now, anything under 24.5 would be noteworthy for most wineries…. And people wonder why alcohols have gone up so much. Perfect ripeness, and wines which, in a good year, last well over 40 years, even with less than perfect storage.
And, while 1978 was a very, very fine year - esp in Sonoma County - it wasn’t even close to 1970, let alone 1941!
@klezman @rjquillin Will look for them.
Tired of turkey so smoked up some dino ribs ahhh
@ScottW58
Yum!!!
@ScottW58 It all looks delish, but the ingredient list on that package seems a little off…
@InFrom
Damn dog
@ScottW58 If you where here, Sadie would refuse the chicken treats in lieu of your dino ribs. She has great taste.
@ScottW58 I just did a Homer Simpson-style drool.
@danandlisa
Lol! Well patches was jumping all over us until we forked some over to her, we didn’t train our dog very well or are kids for that matter
@ScottW58 Patches is very smart. Our “kids” deserve the very best.
@danandlisa
She ain’t bad maybe a little spoiled tho
@danandlisa @ScottW58 She looks soft…
@ScottW58 A whole lot of spoiled, but is that not the point. They deserve the best because they give the best. I would not trade any of them.
One of the few wineries I really like their stuff on the young side - 2019 Sandlands Zinfandel. With pork tenderloin, roasted cauliflower, and latkes. Keepin’ it kosher…
@klezman
I remember loving your latkes a lot so I’m guessing your making those on the 18th, and if not do it anyways!
@ScottW58 Way too much work to make enough for everybody on the 18th. If you were to be here before then, though, we have enough for you and Andrea.
2017 Andrew Murray Espérance
2016 Franny Beck Pinot Noir
Chicken paprikash is still going to take a while. Ugh.
2011 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Syrah.
O.M.G.
Right up there with the 1995 Wellington Alegria Syrah from the 2010 rpm tour dinner.
2014 Twisted Oak Bearded Dragon
This is another excellent bottle from my case. Drinking very well. Haven’t had a disappointment yet.
From my Random Red case
I was absent last week, but not today! Happy Wellington Wednesday!
2011 Wellington Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon
Handal-Denier Dry Creek Valley
While Andrea and I were mooching off the generosity of @danandlisa as we were traveling up the Oregon coast last summer they opened a bottle of this for us and it impressed! Had to pick up a few bottles, lovely with smoked chicken leg quarters
@ScottW58 Great job with the wine. Not sure about the leg quarters.
@danandlisa
Lol well Dan would have loved them!
2011 Dry Creek Vineyards The Mariner Meritage
…with burgers and fries from Bob’s Hamburg. Akron’s oldest continuously operating restaurant, dating back to 1931. Albeit with new owners as our friend and former co-worker who owned it for ~5 years passed away unexpectedly 6 months ago.
@chipgreen
Sorry to hear about your friend. ☹
@kawichris650
Thanks, he really found his niche with that restaurant. It’s not the same.
@rc70
Have a half dozen or so of those '13s, have not tried one yet. How’s it drinking?
Finally found the box, tonight with flannery.
Christmas Eve dinner - amazing dinner with cod, olives, chorizo, potatoes, tomatoes and bread crumbs - perfectly paired with the 2006 Buena Vista Ramal Vineyards Pinot Noir - from the 2008 rpm Magical History Tour. A truly great Pinot, mature, but with wonderful fresh fruit flavours suggesting it has at least 5 years before peak and and another 5 to 10 years after that. As good a California Pinot Noir as I have tasted at least 30 years. Hints of strawberries and red currants, with rose petals as a dominant bottle bouquet note…. Veterans of the 2008 Tour will remember me saying this was at least the equivalent of a good Premier Cru Burgundy… it’s good I qualified it by “at least” because at this stage in its life it’s closer to Grand Cru quality. I was going to post a picture of the bottle, but I can’t figure it out on my iPhone.
@rpm Turn the phone sideways, landscape mode.
@rjquillin ![2006 Buena Vista Ramal Pinot Noir][1]
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2009 Wellington Zinfandel Meeks Hilltop Ranch with takeout from Carrabba’s Italian Grill, followed by…
2007 Page Cellars Red Mountain Syrah
With home made pasta/ravioli (spinach and chicken/mushroom). Great bottle. Merry Christmas!
@pjmartin 2013 Mohrhardt Ridge?
@rjquillin yes found 6 bottles in a local shop 3/4 years ago, on closeout
@pjmartin @rjquillin That’s some stroke of luck! I never got any 2013 Mohrhardt and only 1 bottle of the 2012. That’s my favourite of the Wellington single vineyards, too.
Christmas Day: 1985 Matanzas Creek Merlot
Still nice, though past prime in a shoulder fill 750ml.
2012 Two Jakes Cabernet Sauvignon
Wow, Inky, Fragrant, Quite pleasant.
Fired up old faithful the PBC for the first time in a while and hung some ribs, delicious and started with one of Kelley’s wines and ribs with and old favorite Morisfarms sangio. Kelly Fox 12.5 ABV and Morisfarms 13.0 ABV. I don’t seem to have any trouble finding lower alc wines
An old favorite with Flannery burgers, love my. Arbon steel pan
@ScottW58 Love my Shun’s.
@danandlisa
Yes! As you can see I am a believer in having great Japanese steel
2013 Keller Estate Syrah Rotie
First wine in nearly a week, but a leftover bottle in the fridge from ???
Been down since Monday with something like the flu. Peaked at nearly 39°C a few days ago and negative for the nasty. Good to be vertical again but dreading the work backup come Monday.
@rjquillin Yuck.
Turns out there are other viruses out there still…
You making your plans for the 18th, I hope?
@rjquillin
Glad to hear you’re finally feeling better
Morgan ranch ribeye and New York strip + green stuff.
2018 Scott Harvey Zinfandel mtn selection
Krug 168eme
2000 Kalin Pinot Noir DD, Sonoma county
1994 Fonseca Port
@klezman
Yes good times thanks for cooking and hosting!
Wellington Wednesday in style! 2003 Syrah cuvée R with Flannery hangers. This wine is singing! Thanks @Winedavid49!!
@hscottk Wonderful. i had an ought wellington syrah the other day. it was exquisite.
2018 Tercero Mourvèdre Rosé
Lasst round of leftover turkey and stuffing with 1991 Ravenswood Zinfandel Sonoma County
Amazing how well Joel made these. 14.3% alcohol. Still got some fruit but lots of tertiary characteristics.
The last meal of 2021…. With De Negoce #276, brut rosè.
@hscottk Our traditional NYE dinner is saba and soba; the fancier stuff comes tomorrow.
@hscottk where’s that bubbly rumoured to be from?
Looks like a great spread!
@klezman Rumored to be 2013 Richard G Peterson brut rosè. Just a couple of months post disgorgement, it showed very young but with promise.
@hscottk how was this? I was tempted to pick it up.
@CorTot it was very much strawberries and cream. Simple but enjoyable. If it is the RGP, the drinking window is years out so hoping for more down the road. As it stood today, not worth 3x the price of TJs brut rosè, for example.
2015 Winesmith Cab Franc
2015 Peterson Tollini Vineyard Barbera
Variety of Oysters, Brussel Sprouts, New Orleans French 75
@bunnymasseuse I’m not much for oysters but those sprouts look amazing!
@bunnymasseuse
Yummm!
@bunnymasseuse @klezman
Seriously, not much a fan of oysters?
Years ago, Ren Faire time, a couple dozen of those were, washed down with Guinness, breakfast.
@bunnymasseuse @klezman
Sorry but sprouts are the work of the devil! Everything else is great
ScottW58 Dan likes both. I think all need to go.
@danandlisa
Lol well everybody’s palate is different, no matter what you might hear. Life is good!
@danandlisa @ScottW58 My MD RenFaire days were maryland crab soup in a bread bowl, a turkey leg and the Linganore Vineyards “Their Oughta Be A Law” wine in a goblet!
2015 Ludvik Výroba Vína Svatovavřinecké Výber z hrozna
That’s Slovakian for St. Laurent from the Malokarpatská region of the country.
About to embark on a bottle of 2016 Pedroncelli Zinfandel Bushnell Vineyard Dry Creek Valley. At 16.1% AbV, it’ll be a race to see who falls out on the couch first.
@InFrom
Not that they don’t make great zins I just never got over it 
you should sleep well tho…
Woof I remember that one, it was my first Ped zin and my last
@ScottW58 Its saving grace is that the heat’s not at all evident on the palate. Very fruity though.
@InFrom and still 174 in CT cellars,
Winery: 47
CM: 134
@rjquillin Maybe people aren’t opening them for the reasons Scott cited. I know I held off trying it until now b/c of the AbV.
Still fully upright on the couch, so far…
@InFrom Agree on that. A well made Zin should easily go 5~6 years. But the AbV would likely have me checking a bit early as well. How’s it doing?
@InFrom @rjquillin A well made Zin in the classical style should easily go 10-15 years, and 20+ for the best. Just check out the Ravenswood library and older Ridge and Harvest Moon.
@rjquillin How’s it doing? Classical, it ain’t. Cherryish, and getting sweeter by the minute. Looking forward to enjoying the last of it with dessert. CT says I have two more, but I have no idea where, and that’s ok.
I have a number of lovely Zins, but I thought they would have been overpowered by our Szechuan dinner. I’ll save the lovely ones for a lovely meal some other time.
@InFrom @rjquillin @ScottW58
Mother Clone, that’s the way to go.
@chipgreen @rjquillin @ScottW58 Can’t argue with that.
It’s Italian night with homemade tortilla soup
whatever
2007 Nysa Vineyard Pinot Noir
thanks for the hu Klez, I’ll Ar it.
2007, had to break out the Durand as the cork broke in half, probably the best and most useful “tool” I own.
@rc70
Agree!
@rc70 One of my favourite wines of all time! How is it doing? Any need to drink it soon? I have one left.
@klezman Pure deliciousness! Raspberry & spice with a long finish. No rush but on the other hand its in a very nice place.
@klezman @rc70 which vintage here?
@klezman @rjquillin 2007
Alcohol on the nose…
@msten I hope that bottle was opened before tonight!
@Mark_L @msten
2018 Winesmith Norton
2012 Melissa Kelly “Les Bons Temps” Pinot Noir, Russian River Valley
2017 Dirty and Rowdy Mourvèdre Old Vine Evangelho Vineyard
Got tired of seeing this just sitting around not in a box.
As such, it was vulnerable, and I had a crappy busy day week.
Problem solved.
@rjquillin
So you prefer your wine in a box?
@kawichris650 @InFrom @KarenHynes @klezman @rc70
Too funny. Was sorting thru boxes when I found the loose D&R, and found a couple of 3L 2014 Boxx Cellars Sangiovese in a box from the old site, sold a bit more that four years ago. Never made it to CT, marketed by AH Wines but it’s Cellared and Packed by Vino Noceto. Wonder how it’s aged…
@InFrom @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @rjquillin
I know one way to find out!
I don’t have enough friends to open a 3L!
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @rc70 @rjquillin But in a box it doesn’t go off! No air contact…
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @rjquillin
Wow! There is nothing on this planet that could convince me that I need to buy a 3l box of wine?? What was the thought process that made you buy it?
@karenhynes @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @rjquillin
@ScottW58
Four bottles of Sangio apparently from Noceto;
Cheap (probably)?
No air contact, can drain it a glass at a time;
Easily portable?
Perfect for an office party-type event. Back when we were still having those.
Apart from that, please note, it’s not a 3L box of wine, it’s a couple. I’m guessing you’re even less likely to buy two 3L boxes of wine?
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @rc70 @rjquillin @ScottW58 Also great for keeping handy for cooking wine since it’ll never spoil.
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @rjquillin
Nope I cannot agree with any of those,
So the only possible use would be if you were 17 or 18 years old bringing a 3 liter box of wine to a party would make you the king of the neighborhood for life
@InFrom @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @rjquillin @ScottW58
So…how long do we really think boxed wine can be kept once opened? General consensus on a quick Google search seems to be about 6 weeks, which is certainly a long time compared to an opened bottle (unless sealed under argon or similar protection). I must admit that I’ve never bought boxed wine though I do like the concept. They’re just too big for this single gal to fathom opening and using in a reasonable time period.
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @ScottW58
Well, this is what I was going by.
But looking at it (them) likely a couple of mag equivalents. Nothing on the box as to volume; nothing. AbV, yes.
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @ScottW58
It does have a hand-hold punchout on the side.
Gift or the free table at work, but clearly that didn’t happen. The PG did get given away and was well received. I have a few acquaintances that are a bit more about quantity than quality.
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @rc70 @rjquillin @ScottW58 I could make a nice coq au vin or braised short rib or ragu and use a whole bottle for a single meal. Or there’s always a mulled wine cranberry sauce if you need to use a whole bottle.
But yeah, if you only have 6 weeks to use it then it’s a stretch even for cooking.
@InFrom @karenhynes @kawichris650 @klezman @rc70 @ScottW58
[edit] Yes, looking again, a very small 3L on the label.
Also, it weighs just under 3kg, so, yes, two 3L boxes.
woof
Staying with the Moon concept from a recent clue
2002 Moon Mountain Vineyard Syrah
pristine cork from an Invino purchase nearly 10 years ago when they were clearing these out.
Deliciousness. Oh, hindsight…
2013 Briceland Pinot Noir Phelps Vineyard
Flyby… I need to pay more attention here y’all drink well! 2019 de Négoce Chardonnay OG N.62
Dal Forno Romano Valpolicella, 2013.
On pop-n-pour, the nose is amazing.
The wine is a little too dry/old-world.
Italian for dinner, so it should be nice.
Finishing up the second half of a 2014 Harvest Moon Pinot Noir, soon to be followed by a teeny bit of the '08 Victory that we didn’t finish on Xmas.
I hate bubbly.
So carbonated Meade
2013 tercero Mourvedre, Larner Vineyard. Dang. Good.
Hot “Apple Jacks” for the 50th anniversary of the Monument lightning in Downtown B’more tonight.
Consists of:
4-5 McIntosh apples
Single barrel jack Daniels
Winter Jack Jack Daniels
Apple Liquor from Germany (Berentzen)
Cinnamon
*optional Downeast cider of your choice, suggest their Winter Blend
Throw in Vitamix and put on purée or highest setting until it’s hot and steaming… serve and be ready to sleep in 30min wherever you pass out!
@bunnymasseuse any measurement on the booze besides “the whole bottle”?
@radiolysis so here’s what I normally start with:
3oz of Single Barrel JD (flex to 5oz if you want a faster sleep time! Lol )
1.5-2oz of Winter Jack
1.5-2oz of the Apple Liquor from Germany (if your apples are Red or Yellow Delicious you may need more to compensate)
12 oz can of cider (if you go that route)
Cinnamon to taste or what you normally like in a pumpkin pie….
2012 Tercero Mourvedre, SBC
2014 Red Newt Cellars Riesling The Knoll Lahoma Vineyards
Going to cook up some dumplings with chili oil! Yum.
BTW, if anybody wants a referral code for delicious dumplings, this’ll get you $5 off and me $5 off later. https://yummidumplings.com?referral_code=aR78ry9jtGrAxyXZA
@klezman I love dumplings! (they only ship within CA
)
@karenhynes @klezman love them too! So sad…
2012 Ty Caton enTycement
(Flashback Friday to our Ty Tuesday earlier this week.)
@davirom
How was this? I’ve heard good things about them.
@ScottW58 We were club members for a lot of years and very happy, but dropped out as prices and minimum orders were chewing up too much of the budget. This particular bottle was supposed to have crossed into the drinking window but still may have been in a mute period. Very low key. I have others that I will continue to hold.
NV Gruet Brut
2016 Anne Amie Gamay Noir
2019 Kukeri PN Petaluma Gap, right off the truck. Very nice qpr.
16 IH Chardonnay Heart of the Vineyard. Definitely a step up for our table. Coho salmon and sweet potatoes.
2014 Wilson Buzz Reserve Zinfandel
Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma, 16.2%
If you haven’t had a Wilson Zin, you owe
it to yourself to seek it out. Fantastic!
@FritzCat a couple years ago I called Wilson and got a mixed case. The neighborhood enjoyed each and every bottle.
@FritzCat Club Member here. Love their Estate line up: Sawyer, Tori, and Ellies
2017 Two Vintners Merlot
and various ports
Found a Meeker 2009 Pink Elephant in the cellar. Still fun!
@marikar
Nice! I have 1 left as well. One of the darkest Rose wines I have seen. CT shows vintages from 2017, 2018 and 2019. Maybe @WineDavid49 could talk Lucas into an offer?
2016 Peterson Winery Carignane Zero Manipulation Tollini Vineyard
2017 Andrew Murray Estate Syrah
Pretty nice bottle even tho I still don’t believe Adam that I requested them but so far glad I did
I owe somebody money, Ron how much do I owe??
@ScottW58
You think I actually try to keep track of this?
I have no idea, so I guess we’ll call it even.
What did you get?
@rjquillin @ScottW58 From this?
@Mark_L @ScottW58
Poor phrasing, should have asked ‘how many’
@Mark_L @rjquillin
I got 2 of these and 1 of the 2000 I think, I thought you kept a spreadsheet?
@Mark_L @rjquillin @ScottW58 Spreadsheet says $20.25/bottle.
@klezman @Mark_L @rjquillin
Okay $60.75 sent through Paypal!
Leftovers
@klezman at this point the caymus must have reverted to simply grape juice, no?
@radiolysis It just stayed…weird…
With crab cakes and probably the last for a long time until the prices of crab come back to reality
@ScottW58 They are $7.99 a pound at the local Fred Meyers. Dan had a crab omelette this morning for breakfast. Another reason to relocate.
@danandlisa
funny I was going to tag you in that post but I knew you would confirm exactly what you did 
you are correct after telling Andrea this she’s almost there 
hope you guys are well! Then again if your eating crab for breakfast life is good!
Ugh why don’t you stick a knife in my heart
@ScottW58 Dan is eating crab. I can’t stand it. I know, I am weird. We are crazy busy with my job, moving the shop, and other stuff. Hope you both are well.
Vino Noceto Tutti I Giorni Nutz!
…with another award winning pizza, haha
@chipgreen
Good work chip
@chipgreen @ScottW58
Some need guidance on rotating pics.
Is that some artifact when posting from a phone?
@chipgreen that was one of our wedding wines! I think we’ve got 1 bottle left.
@rjquillin @ScottW58
Yes, posted from cell phone and it rotated the pic for some reason.
@chipgreen @ScottW58 sigh
2019 Sandlands Red Table Wine Contra Costa County
@klezman How was it?
@kaolis I really liked it. Tegan gets amazingly deep wines from these without the high alcohol of his day job. And it drinks surprisingly well young, too.
@klezman Thanks. Pretty sure I have a couple I’ll have to pull one. I buy a few but have only popped a smattering of them. I’ve had more chenins than reds.
@kaolis I just got on the mailing list recently and I’m trying to figure out what sorts of things to buy and which ones may improve with age. Strangely, I am not yet finding that I need to age these, which is very unusual for wines released 1.5-2 years post-harvest.
cheer is (almost) here
@FritzCat I was planning to crack one of those open tonight. Good idea, or let it stew a bit? Menu is leftover pizza.
@InFrom 'Tis the season…
Perfect for left-over pizza.
However, I do think it will improve.
@FritzCat
So often the case with Pedroncelli! I think I’ll set aside half, and see if it improves overnight.
@FritzCat Well, the first half of the bottle really hit the spot. Perfect with the 'za.
@FritzCat Yes! At least as good tonight, maybe even better.
'13 Paris Valley Road “Founder’s Blend” red and '14 Sterling Syrah. (Both earlier CaseMates selections.) The PVR Red was open from last night; it hadn’t changed much. It currently is drinking very well, IMO. I’m sorry that I only have one more bottle. This was good stuff.
The Sterling Syrah is excellent, even better than the PVR. Both are wines that “fill the mouth”. If only they had more prominent oak, they’d be even better. A sip of these beauties and you know you’re drinking quality wines. Life is good.
@DickL
I don’t think I’ve ever said that! Cheers!
@klezman Yeah, I’m an outlier on the oak issue: I like lots. I love the aroma.
2018 Acquiesce Grenache Blanc
A wine we’ll see here another time
Red Schooner, Voyage 7
How does it taste?
It’s a Wagner/Caymus…that’s how it tastes.
However, I do like that style of wine…
2017 Andrew Murray Tous Les Jours
2019 Goodfellow Family Cellars Chardonnay Berserker Cuvée Temperance Hill
This is amazing out of the gate, but super reductive. I suspect I’ll be very happy to have 6 of these.
2017 Stellareese Grenache, Lucid Poet Vineyard
I like it.
2016 Veuve Duossot brut Ernestine with sushi and caramels.
@hscottk any good? I have a few on order. I should probably get those shipping…
@radiolysis it was primary, but very tasty. We preferred the 2015 we had a few months ago. I think time will help here.
Malbec predominant Bordeaux blend would be my guess
2014 Zepaltas cab franc, Pickberry
@hscottk
I really liked those a lot! Still good?
@ScottW58 yes drinking nicely. I don’t drink much cf but would buy again if he was still around. It’s a tough business!
2015 BV Maestro 70% Cab, 30% Syrah Blend.
Very nice. Have 2 more bottles.
2014 weekend continues with Campesino Grenache, paired with Sous vide pork tenderloin.
@hscottk Oh, I forgot to check in last night. We had a Campesino, too – the 2016 Alina. Went nicely with Shanghainese takeout.
2015 Inspiration Vineyards Syrah
NV J.M. Labruyère Champagne Grand Cru Prologue
with Buffalo wings
Pomegranate feta salad, smoked turkey, and Fasolakia.
@msten salad sounds interesting; we may have the ingredients.
Link to recipe?
Champurrado
Last night cooked a turkey and had a 2008 Rivers Marie Summa Vineyard Pinot Noir
Tonight, not sure what I’m making yet, but having half of a 2018 Duemani Cabernet Franc CiFRA. Surely it’s too young, but I need to evaluate it.
Then I’ll find something to toast my fantasy football victory, too. Unless Dallas scores around 6 field goals in the second half.
@klezman
If only XPs were FGs…
Congrats, enjoy your victory. My team was lucky to make it this far, what with all the mental breakdowns, vehicular homicides, injuries and Covid victims!
@chipgreen I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many TDs in a single game! And getting 8+ points on PAT?! Crazy. And there was an hour or two this afternoon where I thought you had me.
Mental breakdowns and vehicular homicides? Oy.
And if you’d have told me that I should have played Jaylen Waddle or Amon-Ra St. Brown instead of Tyreek Hill this week…really? Crazy season for sure.
@klezman
OK, only 1 each of the mental breakdowns (Calvin Ridley) and vehicular homicides (Henry Ruggs) but it was a seaon-long battle to field a competitive team each week! Good luck in the Championship game.
@chipgreen Shows how much I pay attention to the broader NFL…I had no idea those things happened.
Thanks! And good luck beating team San Jose for the bronze!
NV Moutard Brut Rosé de Cuvaison to celebrate the 8pm New Year.
@klezman had the regular Brut at the gathering and i really enjoyred it. My “local” wine shop had both that one and the rosé! So i bought the rosé, naturally.
@radiolysis Very nice! I don’t think I’ve seen the rose anywhere. I got mine at LA Wine Company. We’ve also been on a Champagne kick the last year or so…
@klezman San Diego Wine & Beer had a few cases of the brut and maybe one more case of rosé. The shelf talker said they didn’t get much of the rosé to begin with.
@radiolysis @klezman
I see they still have some at $26 and $30.
That about what you two paid?
Worth a try?
@klezman @rjquillin I thought it was good for the price. Yeah.
@radiolysis @rjquillin And I think it was $27 at LAWC.
2012 Sapphire Hill Rubino Cuvee
Nice pizza wine
@chipgreen The pizza we had tonight was not an award-winner.
@chipgreen @InFrom
how was it?
Not sure I’ve ever had a pizza that was an award winner
@chipgreen @InFrom @ScottW58
Have you ever delved into Chicago deep-dish pizza (in Chicago, not an extended chain)?
@chipgreen @InFrom @Mark_L @ScottW58
Back when I was in Palo Alto, we really enjoyed Patxi’s. I think it’s an outpost of a legit Chicago joint.
@InFrom @ScottW58
Local Mom & Pop place that has been in the same spot since 1963. It is really good but there are other pizza places that have been raising the bar recently as evidenced by them not winning any of those awards the last 2 years.
Having some ramen and sake tonight. Probably followed by a whiskey.