Itās been over two years since we last did a Twisted Mystery Box on Casemates - itās about time we did another!
This time around itās very straightforward - you will get 6 or 12 random bottles (or more!) of properly aged Twisted Oak red wine, from vintage 2015 or earlier. And no duplicates - each case of 12 will have 12 unique bottles. You might get multiple bottles of the same varietal or blend but they will be different vintages (verticals! woo hoo!)
What kind of wines? These wines for the most part are what we call our Twisted Little Freaks - limited production single vineyard and premium blends that were initially offered to our valued Twisted Few wine club members.
You will find single vineyard Tempranillos - including a āToroā Tempranillo we call The Bearded Dragon - our estate āTorcidoā Garnacha, and our estate Graciano.
And in blends youāll find, for example our popular āParcel 17ā blend of Mourvedre, Carignane, and Graciano. And of course thereās āOlā Chumbucketā - a description of which might best be left for the forumsā¦
And thereās a slight chance a lucky few of you might even find a bottle of our flagship The Spaniard or River of Skulls in the box, but no promises.
For whatever reason we always seem to have a few straggler bottles or cases left after we finish a vintage. These delicious stragglers should be in peopleās glasses and not gathering dust on our shelves! So grab a case or two while you can!
Weāre often asked what the background of Twisted Oak is, to which we invariably reply, āThe Sierra Nevada, of course!ā If we are pressed further, we are forced to admit that Twisted Oak Winery is the culmination of a delusion, er, vision by Jeff and Mary Stai. The vision was of a terroir based winery making superior, hand crafted, yummy wines, and then having more Twisted fun than anyone in the industry selling them.
Jeff and Mary found 120 acres just outside Murphys in the Sierra Foothills at nearly 2000 feet elevation. It is there that they planted 10 acres of vineyards in Tempranillo, Grenache, Graciano, and Garnacha to take advantage of the continental Mediterranean soil types and climate. It is on top of this property, with an amazing view of the Sierras, where the state-of-the-art, no-pumpover, four-level gravity flow winery was built. When completed in 2004 it included open tank, stainless steel fermenters along with our own 300-foot barrel cave. This is all under the watchful eye of a 350 year old California Blue Oak tree that not only is our namesake, but also adorns every Twisted Oak bottle.
Jeff and Mary work closely with winemaker Scott Klann in crafting the Twisted Oak wines. Scott has been in the wine making business over 15 years. Scottās knowledge of what works best is unmatched in the area (it doesnāt hurt that he was raised in Murphys.) Scottās experience and personal relationships with the growers in Calaveras County allows Twisted Oak Winery to purchase the best fruit from these outstanding vineyards to complement our estate grape programs. Whatever the formula Jeff, Mary and Scott, have devised for Twisted Oak, it has been validated by the hundreds of consumers that buy us out of wine each and every year. Twisted Oak Winery has also received accolades by publications and competitions which have graced us with many scores of 90 or above. We think the Wine Enthusiast put it best āThe gang at Twisted Oak Winery are taking winemaking in this area to the next levelā¦ā Cheers! And always, keep it Twisted! Twisted Oak Winery!
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, ID, IL, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, MT, NV, NH, NY, NC, ND, OH, OR, TX, VA, WA, WI
Throwing this out here-Iād love if yaāll could get licensed for PA someday. I got lucky and ratted a past offering, and I would love to order more. Stupid state restrictions.
Love Twisted Oak!! Used to be able to get it shipped to IN, but not this timeā¦which is probably good since my cup runneth over with my stash right now and another case coming soon. To all that are able to get it - Enjoy!
@eljefetwisted I have. Oddly enough I worked ten years at a tech company that did little or nothing to celebrate any holidays, yet inexplicably threw events and handed out swag for Talk Like A Pirate Day. I think I still have PTSD (Pirate Traumatic Stress Disorder) from thatā¦
ā¦but I digress. I gather itās probably a wine of some kind, but thatās all I got.
@blandoon Itās named after one of the founders of TLAPD - Olā Chumbucket (the other is Capān Slappy). They came to one of our first Cave Looting parties and have been friends ever since.
One day for reasons best left forgotten it came to pass that equal parts of our Parcel 17 blend and The Spaniard were mixed together. The result was so good we went with it!
@Se7enty9 The difference between this mystery case and the last one is vastly different. I have never had a Twisted Oak wine I did not regret buying more of. El Jefe does not make a bad wine.I have been burned with mystery boxes in the past. I jumped on this one and am excited to see what I get.
@danandlisa@Se7enty9 Yeah, the last mystery box was an easy pass for me. Not this one. I had a 2015 Torcido last week that was excellent. Iāve never had a bad wine from El Jefe either and the Random (not mystery) boxes have all been great deals filled with Great wines. Violating ALL my capacity controls with this purchase.
@Se7enty9 I donāt remember exactly what the last one was sold as, but I have found el jefe to exceed expectations with these mystery/random/whatever cases.
Iād be all over this, but it looks like TN has fallen from grace and is off the āfriendsā list. I got a refund yesterday for my 1-case Scott Harvey order ādue to exceeding the personal shipment volume limit in your state for this wineryā and now can no longer Twisted Oak, another of my top favorites. Boo, hiss.
@RRichmo if itās like Oregon itās per resident. That one caught me once and so Iāve been using other family member names to bypass that rule because well theyāre drinking it too!
@sillyheathen my understanding is itās not only a per person limit, but can now only be shipped directly from wineries. Theyāve set us back 20 years for wine buying.
ARGH! Bittersweet pass because of funds. I have felt somewhat āburnedā by mystery/random offerings, but not from El Jefe. I am happy to see them back, but it is just not the right time. I guarantee the reveals will make people regret not ordering.
@eljefetwisted I am just making my abstaining all the more difficult, but the better question might be, what is the oldest vintage one could possibly see?
@eljefetwisted, I have always missed Twisted Oak offers, not this time, even though had to order to a friendās address in NY.
Is NJ always excluded by Twisted Oak?
No duplicates. Ok, good, so, say Iām rolling the dice looking for a Spaniard. Clearly wonāt be two in a case, but could be two in two sixers.
You doing the packing, or WCC.
Trying to judge how those more cherished bottles may get distributed, and if the case still may be the wiser move for a higher percentage.
Not that all of them arenāt good. From past experience I know better.
Any Cockamamie? Still sitting on some of those 13ās, and an older Syrah.
@rjquillin No plans for Cockamamie in this batch. Hereās how we are doing thisā¦
I am sending Casemates 12 bottle boxes of random wines no-dupes.
I have asked Casemates to only pull 12 bottle orders from a full 12 bottle box.
So if you order two sixers you might get dupes.
If you order two twelve-ers you might get dupes.
Good luck on scoring a Spaniard!
I am sending Casemates 12 bottle boxes of random wines no-dupes.
I have asked Casemates to only pull 12 bottle orders from a full 12 bottle box.
So if you order two sixers you might get dupes.
If you order two twelve-ers you might get dupes.
Well that was what I wanted to know. I was so on the fence of breaking the budget, but nope. Been down that road before. Someone is going to get 12 Spaniards and rest of people getting none. Nope. Donāt trust ārandom/mysteryā to WCC. Sorry.
@eljefetwisted@KNmeh7 Iām with you on some of the mixed cases. Maybe I misunderstood - but sounds like mixed cases are coming packed, and will be split in half for orders of six? So should be impossible to get duplicates?
@KNmeh7 I am packing cases boxes randomly and transporting them to WCC. All WCC has to do is move them directly from the case boxes to shipping boxes. I am not asking WCC to do the randomizing, though the last time I did this I did let them randomize and they did fine as far as I can know.
Please everyone, when you are opening a bottle that is pushing 10 years from vintage date, use one of these āah soā openers instead of a screw (or heaven forbid, and auger). It will save a lot of heartache. Thanks.
I met eljefe back in the day after a Gary Vaynerchuk event at crush pad in San Francisco. Partied all night with him and Gary. Had to take a bus back to the east bay since bart was closed. What a night. I have never had a bad twisted oak wine and have purchased every offer here since! IN FOR TWO CASES! Thanks Eljefe keep it up!
@eljefetwisted Any chance of getting this deal shipped directly from the winery to TN? Our āso fineā governor and his sell-out legislature just passed a bill that essentially eliminates shipping from third party (Casemates) shippers. Iām worried Iāve had my last Casemates delivery. Sucks to absolutely no end! My state senator told me āIt was pushed by the liquor retailers and distributors. It is a bad law.ā, as I suspected, and said heād have his senior staff look for loopholes, but that may not help with Casemates. Sucks for us. Casemates folks- is there any hope for TN maters on your end?
@eljefetwisted Thanks and sodamnedsad. Fortunately, I have a few cases in the cellar, but now no way to replenish. CRAP! doesnāt even express my feelings. #SUCKASSTNLegislatorsell-outs.
In regards to the note about TN, you folks are the ones that need to stay ever vigilant. And write your state reps. So many states have such high permit fees, running to 100s of $$. This doesnāt faze the big boys but us small family wineries just canāt justify it. Most of the states I am not in want too much $$. Ask your rep why they hate small family businesses. Only if you push will it ever change. /rant
Absolutely! Iāve know and had various associatiations with my state rep for many years and will keep the conversation going on my end. I urge others (especially TN folks!!!) to do the same. Itās insane that lobbyists can
have so much influence over legislation that affects our lives.
@eljefetwisted How about MA for direct ship? Normally MA has been in for all of these deals (and your amazing past mystery cases via Woot)ā¦ Or no luck there either?
@djy2g33 Weāve never had a license for MA, not sure what happening there. (But at least we have moved on from the day when MA had a 14 license application including an essay question for each of your PARENTS to explain why you should be allowed to ship wine to MA. I hope I kept a copy of that someplaceā¦)
@eljefetwisted Itās definitely changedā¦ a full 180 in most senses. Itās actually rare that MA is not included in a deal nowadaysā¦ Too bad not an option this time around, I recently had one of the Syrahs from that Woot mystery case and was drinking beautifullyā¦
Who else is here because they like wine and donāt give a flying F about Gary Vain ass truck? Seriously, what the hell happened? Do we need a Jersey social media influencer being mentioned multiple times? It is bad enough we got Suckling, but him? Seriously?
I will dye my hair tomorrow and talk aggressively while reviewing wine. My opinion doesnāt mean shit. (Except for labrat, thanks, Alice)
@KNmeh7 The influencer you have such hated for was mentioned in the context of meeting the producer. Not sure where your anger and vitriol are coming from, but itās far more off putting than the post you reference.
@Drez143 I should have also added, that I threw my hat in the ring here as a new baby (pushing) gift for my wife. We have an appointment in an hour for the inducing of our third child!
I tried to resist but have always wanted to try eljefeās wine and always miss it. What better way to try than 12 different bottles!
/giphy hypnotic-trusting-peacock
Say you have a storage locker in a ship-to state; CA for instance. You order and itās delivered to them for storage. But they also offer delivery/shipping services, so it is later shipped to you. They are not selling it to you, just shipping wine you already own.
Does such a thing exist?
Is it legal, gray or totally black?
Shipping cost could be prohibitive.
@rjquillin Iām not a lawyer nor did I recently stay at a Holiday Inn, but it is state dependent. There are some states where bringing in your own alcohol in your own car is technically illegal.
@klezman@rjquillin@ScottW58 if bringing your own in a car is bad, wonder how my flights from MA to MI crossed that grey lineā¦ probably not a good idea to investigate furtherā¦
Have been a member of the āTwisted Freak Teamā for many years, and these wines never disappoint. Was going to pause the wine buys (running out of space in the racks) but this is too good to pass up.
@cruzmantis Just ordered a 1/2 case. Really annoyed that UPS wants $9.99 per item to delay shipment. And apparently most UPS warehouses arenāt air-conditioned. With FedEx I could redirect for free to an air-conditioned FexEd Office store (formerly FedEx Kinkos) and they would hold for a full week (their 5 business days did not include weekends). Last time I had something sent to a for-profit UPS store, they told me there would be a āstorage feeā for every day after the first, if I didnāt pick it up. AFAIK UPS stores are private franchises that can charge what they want. I think FedEx Office is corporate-owned. Wish we could pick delivery services, even if we had to pay extra.
Cases sold out
Was going to wait until my two half cases arrived this afternoon to see how the summertime styrofoam shipping worked out, but times aā running out
/giphy flat-snarky-thief
@bunnymasseuse@eljefetwisted@rjquillin Iām down for ham chat. No-code General right now and missed Extra by one question since I didnāt study that book. Never really did anything with my license tho. Kinda like the scuba license I have tooā¦
Cases are sold out. I bought 2x6 Bottlesā¦ @eljefetwisted, @WineDavid49 is it possible any more cases are available? not that I would complain about possible doubles, but Iād love extra variety and (of course) the lower price. Cheers!
I think my case is getting delivered to my wootlegger as we speak but unfortunately I wonāt get it unveiled for a few days. The suspense is very real now!
@tofarber Nice batch! We ditched the capsules over the corks a few years ago. They really have no utility and just create waste. And now you can see the pretty tree on the cork end
Nice to see the reveals! If you still donāt have yours, there is a reasonā¦ we used a shipping company to get this large pile of wine over to Casemates/WCC to be shipped to you. When the shipment arrived it was short 31 cases!
We immediately assembled replacement cases and I drove them over to WCC in my SUV last Friday.
The cherry on top of the whole situation? The missing 31 showed up today at WCC!
Apologies for those of you who got dupes, we tried. Itās possible that the shipping company did a remix on some cases - for unknown reasons many of the 31 that arrived today were repacked. Or, itās very possible we made a few boo boos packing the 31 replacements (it was kind of a rush jobā¦)
Anyway, enjoy your mysteries! And feel free to drop me a line at tastingroom@twistedoak.com
Finally arrived! A bit warm to the touch but not hot.
2015 Partial 17 (is that partly from Parcel 17?)
2013 Zilch Tempranillo
2013 %$#@ (Potty Mouth Red)
2008 Olā Chumbucket
2015 Graciano
2006 Torcido Grenache (one of the old silk screened bottles!)
Wish Iād gotten those 2007 Parcel 17s that have been going around but this is a nice selection.
@eljefetwisted@normanl0 Oooh! Are you in SoCal? I want to come to a Parcel 17 Vertical Party!
(Just checked CT and very pleased to discover I still have a 2007 and 2x2009!!! YES!)
@normanl0@eljefetwisted - I just wanted to tell El Jefe that this is the best case of wine I have ever gotten from Casemates and that old wine site (have had 5 bottles from offer so far). By far the best offer I have purchased from Casemates and cannot wait for the next offer from Twisted Oak!
OK folksā¦I have not gone through all of the chats butā¦All of the wine from this offer is corked and or vinegar. Have opened 4 thus far and dumped all of them. Even saved for a few days hoping the would at least turn into something I could use in āsomething/anythingā. Uuh!
Very happy with this purchase. Iāve opened 4 so far and theyāve all been beyond delicious. Friends that shared them think Iām some super magical wine expert. Thanks El Jefe!
I didnāt purchase because of funds, but these reveals have solidified that Twisted Oak, and El Jefe, are one of the best casemates participants. Hope to see another offer in a better position. These bottle reports are awesome!
I know this is an old thread at this point, but Iāve drank down 9 of my case in the last week (vacation and my wootlegger brought the case) and every single one has been good. They all taste similar after a while but all have been delicious.
Twisted Oak Random Reds
Whatās Included
6-bottles:
Case:
About The Winery
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, ID, IL, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, MT, NV, NH, NY, NC, ND, OH, OR, TX, VA, WA, WI
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Jul 12 - Thursday, Jul 15
Twisted Oak Random Reds
6 bottles for $144.99 $24.17/bottle + $1.33/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $264.99 $22.08/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
Throwing this out here-Iād love if yaāll could get licensed for PA someday. I got lucky and ratted a past offering, and I would love to order more. Stupid state restrictions.
Love Twisted Oak!! Used to be able to get it shipped to IN, but not this timeā¦which is probably good since my cup runneth over with my stash right now and another case coming soon. To all that are able to get it - Enjoy!
El jefe, any idea on the likelihood we could get a parcel 17?
@klezman Someone probably will. Iāve forgotten how to do the math though
And not a zin in the bunch, Very happy!
@ScottW58 Yes. Already purchased.
@danandlisa
Me too
@ScottW58 Great minds think alike.
@ScottW58 No Zins have Twisted Oak on the label.
@eljefetwisted
Thatās what I thought, makes me very happy!
This one is hard to resist. Need to see if my caselegger can accept delivery in ny.
Damnā¦ Really canāt buy any wine right nowā¦ But this offer is incredibly tempting!
āAnd of course thereās āOlā Chumbucketā - a description of which might best be left for the forumsā¦ā
@blandoon Ever heard of International Talk Like a Pirate Day?
@eljefetwisted I have. Oddly enough I worked ten years at a tech company that did little or nothing to celebrate any holidays, yet inexplicably threw events and handed out swag for Talk Like A Pirate Day. I think I still have PTSD (Pirate Traumatic Stress Disorder) from thatā¦
ā¦but I digress. I gather itās probably a wine of some kind, but thatās all I got.
@blandoon Itās named after one of the founders of TLAPD - Olā Chumbucket (the other is Capān Slappy). They came to one of our first Cave Looting parties and have been friends ever since.
One day for reasons best left forgotten it came to pass that equal parts of our Parcel 17 blend and The Spaniard were mixed together. The result was so good we went with it!
No SC huh too bad. After that last mystery offer Iām going to take this as a sign.
@LJeAYsy4LoqxEC Same here.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations)
Twisted Oak Random Reds - $25 = 8.62%
Waiting for more comments. The last mystery box and the bottle price tag has me cautious.
@Se7enty9 The difference between this mystery case and the last one is vastly different. I have never had a Twisted Oak wine I did not regret buying more of. El Jefe does not make a bad wine.I have been burned with mystery boxes in the past. I jumped on this one and am excited to see what I get.
@danandlisa @Se7enty9 Yeah, the last mystery box was an easy pass for me. Not this one. I had a 2015 Torcido last week that was excellent. Iāve never had a bad wine from El Jefe either and the Random (not mystery) boxes have all been great deals filled with Great wines. Violating ALL my capacity controls with this purchase.
@Se7enty9 I donāt remember exactly what the last one was sold as, but I have found el jefe to exceed expectations with these mystery/random/whatever cases.
@danandlisa @Se7enty9
I donāt think that means what you think it means.
@chipgreen @Se7enty9 I agree.
Iād be all over this, but it looks like TN has fallen from grace and is off the āfriendsā list. I got a refund yesterday for my 1-case Scott Harvey order ādue to exceeding the personal shipment volume limit in your state for this wineryā and now can no longer Twisted Oak, another of my top favorites. Boo, hiss.
@RRichmo Wow thatās pretty brutal.
@pmarin you bet! Totally sucks!
@RRichmo Dang!! What total BS. If i ever move from Florida, I had better check state laws to make sure I dont run into any stupid laws like that!
@mommadeb I think the āgreat stateā of Tennessee recently mucked up wine shipping. Yay for us.
@RRichmo if itās like Oregon itās per resident. That one caught me once and so Iāve been using other family member names to bypass that rule because well theyāre drinking it too!
@sillyheathen my understanding is itās not only a per person limit, but can now only be shipped directly from wineries. Theyāve set us back 20 years for wine buying.
After YEARS of ignoring the hype on el Jefe, I finally pulled the trigger on the last mixed offering. Loved every bottle. In for a case. Canāt wait.
I might be tempted if they shipped to GA
ARGH! Bittersweet pass because of funds. I have felt somewhat āburnedā by mystery/random offerings, but not from El Jefe. I am happy to see them back, but it is just not the right time. I guarantee the reveals will make people regret not ordering.
Yay my internet is back! Anyone want to ask how long these will age?
@eljefetwisted I am just making my abstaining all the more difficult, but the better question might be, what is the oldest vintage one could possibly see?
@KNmeh7 That might depend on how many cases get sold here
but 2008 is what Iām thinking.
@eljefetwisted
With enough interest, you may dig even deeper into the library?
@KNmeh7
@KNmeh7 @rjquillin We might need to, to fulfill all of the orders. But I also donāt have a lot of pre-2008 vintages.
@eljefetwisted, I have always missed Twisted Oak offers, not this time, even though had to order to a friendās address in NY.
Is NJ always excluded by Twisted Oak?
/giphy concerned-royal-boat

@eljefetwisted, should I be concerned after this royal boat collapse?!?!
@eljefetwisted Age? No, not that question, butā¦
No duplicates. Ok, good, so, say Iām rolling the dice looking for a Spaniard. Clearly wonāt be two in a case, but could be two in two sixers.
You doing the packing, or WCC.
Trying to judge how those more cherished bottles may get distributed, and if the case still may be the wiser move for a higher percentage.
Not that all of them arenāt good. From past experience I know better.
Any Cockamamie? Still sitting on some of those 13ās, and an older Syrah.
@abhiabhi Take care of those splinters right away before they get infected!
@rjquillin No plans for Cockamamie in this batch. Hereās how we are doing thisā¦
I am sending Casemates 12 bottle boxes of random wines no-dupes.
I have asked Casemates to only pull 12 bottle orders from a full 12 bottle box.
So if you order two sixers you might get dupes.
If you order two twelve-ers you might get dupes.
Good luck on scoring a Spaniard!
@eljefetwisted Got a couple cases as is.
How are the '07 and '11 vintages doing?
And some others I need to findā¦
@rjquillin I havenāt tasted an 11 in a while but I recently snagged two of the last of the 07 for my personal cellar. Itās very nice!
@eljefetwisted
You doing the packing, or WCC.
Well that was what I wanted to know. I was so on the fence of breaking the budget, but nope. Been down that road before. Someone is going to get 12 Spaniards and rest of people getting none. Nope. Donāt trust ārandom/mysteryā to WCC. Sorry.
@eljefetwisted @KNmeh7 Iām with you on some of the mixed cases. Maybe I misunderstood - but sounds like mixed cases are coming packed, and will be split in half for orders of six? So should be impossible to get duplicates?
@KNmeh7 I am packing cases boxes randomly and transporting them to WCC. All WCC has to do is move them directly from the case boxes to shipping boxes. I am not asking WCC to do the randomizing, though the last time I did this I did let them randomize and they did fine as far as I can know.
@CruelMelody @eljefetwisted @KNmeh7
Correct, as stated above, dups only possible if you order 2x6 or 2x12.
@CruelMelody @eljefetwisted @KNmeh7 you could get dupes in a 2x6 because the 6s could get pulled from two identical 12s
@CruelMelody @deadlyapp @KNmeh7 yes
Please everyone, when you are opening a bottle that is pushing 10 years from vintage date, use one of these āah soā openers instead of a screw (or heaven forbid, and auger). It will save a lot of heartache. Thanks.
@eljefetwisted or, even better, one of these.
@rjquillin $100+
@rjquillin ooooo!
/giphy laborious-logical-hat

I said no more full bodied reds this summerā¦ But the sixer is a solid price and it will get delivered right around my birthday.
/giphy meddlesome-muscle-dad

Iām a Twisted Oak virgin so Iām very excited. In for a case.
I met eljefe back in the day after a Gary Vaynerchuk event at crush pad in San Francisco. Partied all night with him and Gary. Had to take a bus back to the east bay since bart was closed. What a night. I have never had a bad twisted oak wine and have purchased every offer here since! IN FOR TWO CASES! Thanks Eljefe keep it up!
@grn2k1civic this was meant for you

@eljefetwisted Any chance of getting this deal shipped directly from the winery to TN? Our āso fineā governor and his sell-out legislature just passed a bill that essentially eliminates shipping from third party (Casemates) shippers. Iām worried Iāve had my last Casemates delivery. Sucks to absolutely no end! My state senator told me āIt was pushed by the liquor retailers and distributors. It is a bad law.ā, as I suspected, and said heād have his senior staff look for loopholes, but that may not help with Casemates. Sucks for us. Casemates folks- is there any hope for TN maters on your end?
@RRichmo @eljefetwisted
*%#&@! and %@#$! with a dash of Olā Chumbucket
@eljefetwisted @rjquillin much nicer that my thoughts have been all day! ##%%&##@%!!!%##***@!!###!!!
@RRichmo I feel you. I let my permit to TN lapse. The costs to stay legal were just too great.
@eljefetwisted Thanks and sodamnedsad.
Fortunately, I have a few cases in the cellar, but now no way to replenish. CRAP! doesnāt even express my feelings. #SUCKASSTNLegislatorsell-outs.
In regards to the note about TN, you folks are the ones that need to stay ever vigilant. And write your state reps. So many states have such high permit fees, running to 100s of $$. This doesnāt faze the big boys but us small family wineries just canāt justify it. Most of the states I am not in want too much $$. Ask your rep why they hate small family businesses. Only if you push will it ever change. /rant
My California State Rep actually sends me a case of wine every election year.
@halwarning Iām in the wrong district!
Absolutely! Iāve know and had various associatiations with my state rep for many years and will keep the conversation going on my end. I urge others (especially TN folks!!!) to do the same. Itās insane that lobbyists can
have so much influence over legislation that affects our lives.
@eljefetwisted How about MA for direct ship? Normally MA has been in for all of these deals (and your amazing past mystery cases via Woot)ā¦ Or no luck there either?
@djy2g33 Weāve never had a license for MA, not sure what happening there. (But at least we have moved on from the day when MA had a 14 license application including an essay question for each of your PARENTS to explain why you should be allowed to ship wine to MA. I hope I kept a copy of that someplaceā¦)
@eljefetwisted Itās definitely changedā¦ a full 180 in most senses. Itās actually rare that MA is not included in a deal nowadaysā¦ Too bad not an option this time around, I recently had one of the Syrahs from that Woot mystery case and was drinking beautifullyā¦
Who else is here because they like wine and donāt give a flying F about Gary Vain ass truck? Seriously, what the hell happened? Do we need a Jersey social media influencer being mentioned multiple times? It is bad enough we got Suckling, but him? Seriously?
I will dye my hair tomorrow and talk aggressively while reviewing wine. My opinion doesnāt mean shit. (Except for labrat, thanks, Alice)
@KNmeh7 The influencer you have such hated for was mentioned in the context of meeting the producer. Not sure where your anger and vitriol are coming from, but itās far more off putting than the post you reference.
@KNmeh7 exactly. I mentioned it because I got to meet eljefe and had an awesome night geeking out on wine. As they say RTFM!!!
HIKING! VIKINGS! STRIKE KING [BRAND FISHING LURES]! AWESOME!
*%#&@! and %@#$! with a dash of Olā Chumbucket FOMO for a case.
All of this amazing rattage convinced me.

/giphy miserable-textual-veil
@Drez143 I should have also added, that I threw my hat in the ring here as a new baby (pushing) gift for my wife. We have an appointment in an hour for the inducing of our third child!
@Drez143
Lol and congrats
@Drez143 Isnāt modern tech so empowering?
congrats!
@Drez143 thanks!
Brooklyn was born at 9:48pm EST and mama bear canāt wait for some Twisted Oak!
@Drez143
Brooklyn?!? Should be named Spaniard.
@Drez143 Mazel tov!
I tried to resist but have always wanted to try eljefeās wine and always miss it. What better way to try than 12 different bottles!

/giphy hypnotic-trusting-peacock
/giphy grubby-perpetual-office

Looking forward to my maiden voyage with the bounty of el jefe!!
Well, poo. I talked myself into giving this a try, then noticed NM isnāt in the list this time.
@winedavid49 @eljefetwisted
Say you have a storage locker in a ship-to state; CA for instance. You order and itās delivered to them for storage. But they also offer delivery/shipping services, so it is later shipped to you. They are not selling it to you, just shipping wine you already own.
Does such a thing exist?
Is it legal, gray or totally black?
Shipping cost could be prohibitive.
@rjquillin you starting a woot leg company?!
@rjquillin Iām not a lawyer nor did I recently stay at a Holiday Inn, but it is state dependent. There are some states where bringing in your own alcohol in your own car is technically illegal.
@klezman @rjquillin
Heās already got one or two, your house and cortots lol
@klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58 if bringing your own in a car is bad, wonder how my flights from MA to MI crossed that grey lineā¦ probably not a good idea to investigate furtherā¦
@bunnymasseuse @klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58 So many state lines crossed!
Happily @coffeemate12 and I are Twisted Freaks. Never met an El Jeff special we didnāt like.
Curse you @winedavid49 for making us pull the CC out again. At least the Dodgers swept the Giantsā¦again.
In celebration of getting 6 more of these, Iām enjoying a Twisted Oak 2007 Petite Surah! Yum!
@klezman Only 1 left. Drink or hold?
@trifecta It was good last night. Not showing any signs of a dumb phase. Got some of it left for tonight as well. So yes, drink or hold
Got the email about this offer overnight. Itās a good thing for WD itās my birthday and I got my bonus this week. Looking forward to getting this.
@ryannel Happy Birthday!
No MD?
Iād be in for a case if GA was included.
Have been a member of the āTwisted Freak Teamā for many years, and these wines never disappoint. Was going to pause the wine buys (running out of space in the racks) but this is too good to pass up.
Anyone know whether these ship with FedEx or UPS? Want to order, but only if itās FedEx delivering.
@cruzmantis UPS
@Winedavid49 thank you
@cruzmantis Just ordered a 1/2 case. Really annoyed that UPS wants $9.99 per item to delay shipment. And apparently most UPS warehouses arenāt air-conditioned. With FedEx I could redirect for free to an air-conditioned FexEd Office store (formerly FedEx Kinkos) and they would hold for a full week (their 5 business days did not include weekends). Last time I had something sent to a for-profit UPS store, they told me there would be a āstorage feeā for every day after the first, if I didnāt pick it up. AFAIK UPS stores are private franchises that can charge what they want. I think FedEx Office is corporate-owned. Wish we could pick delivery services, even if we had to pay extra.
/giphy uneven-taunting-swallow

@TK4TWO1 giphy of people buying the last āimportā Mystery case. Most didnāt fare as well as the sword-swallower guy.
Cases sold out

Was going to wait until my two half cases arrived this afternoon to see how the summertime styrofoam shipping worked out, but times aā running out
/giphy flat-snarky-thief
Well - looks like cases are back
@tofarber Woooooo. That might mean The Spaniard or River of Skulls are coming someoneās way. Also, River of Skulls is my favorite Billy Joel song.
/giphy incandescent-disturbed-box

Whew, no MD. That was a close one! 2 cases on the way, rack full.
+1
@smtcapecod @kls_in_md we do have va leggers & DC rep on hereā¦ bout time for them to step forward for a reverse trip!
@kls_in_MD @smtcapecod @cduan @opiate2002 @wardad @thelecroy ? CQā¦CQā¦
@bunnymasseuse
Wondering how many others know what you are askingā¦
@cduan @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad
@bunnymasseuse @cduan @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad I ordered a case to be sent to my brother in MN. I wonāt get this until Fall, but if there are no DC collaborators, then Iāll split off a few bottles before the snow flies.
/giphy sleek-slick-spaghetti

@bunnymasseuse @cduan @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad I sure do DE WK6I K
@cduan @eljefetwisted @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad DE N3YAC K
@bunnymasseuse @cduan @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad How many hams are on here?!
@cduan @eljefetwisted @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad 3 of us that I know of, others I probably donātā¦ (this is 25yrs for me this yearā¦)
@bunnymasseuse @cduan @eljefetwisted @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad
DE NJ9W K
Canāt remember when I first went extra, but I had to do 20.
@bunnymasseuse @cduan @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad no shit! If you want to start a ham thread here Iāll hang regularly
@bunnymasseuse @cduan @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad Iām call myself an āAdvanced Plusā. I went from 13wpm Advanced to no-code Extra. But I do 20wpm contesting, at least.
@bunnymasseuse @eljefetwisted @rjquillin Iām down for ham chat. No-code General right now and missed Extra by one question since I didnāt study that book. Never really did anything with my license tho. Kinda like the scuba license I have tooā¦
@bunnymasseuse @cduan @eljefetwisted @kls_in_MD @opiate2002 @rjquillin @smtcapecod @thelecroy @wardad
The call sign K1VZX has been in my family since WW2. My fatherās for at least 50 years and itās now my sonās after my dad passed away. I really should get my license one of these days, having grown up with it.
In for a case and have been waiting on them to have an offer for 2 years now. Looking forward to some twisted oak.
@blublocker yea, it took me a while to get el jeffe back on board. thanks for waiting!
@blublocker @Winedavid49

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Enjoying this right now. If youāre on the fence, Buy!
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@pjmartin
Grabbed a sixer
/giphy troublesome-flustered-elk

@pjmartin That is tasting SO good right now!
@pjmartin And thatās pro lighting. Product photos are hard!
Resisted this one for almost both days, but finally decided to wootleg it to somewhere cooler and find a way to fly it home over the winter. Sigh
@deadlyapp Remember - āShip your clothes, check your wine.ā
@deadlyapp @eljefetwisted unless you need the clothes for cushioning, then itās ship the clothes, wrap the wine and put it in dry bagsā¦
@bunnymasseuse @deadlyapp the important thing is that it is easier to ship stinky clothes than alcohol. What a world.
One of the best parts of doing one of these are the āorder numberā giphys. Let me try an adlib: /giphy rubber-chicken-forest
@eljefetwisted guess it doesnāt work ad lib
@eljefetwisted gotta put it on a separate lineā¦

/giphy rubber-chicken-forest
@bunnymasseuse awesome!
FOOLS! TOOLS! JEWELS! AWESOME!
/giphy rubber-chicken-forest

@ttboy23 and anotherā¦
@ttboy23

Cases are sold out. I bought 2x6 Bottlesā¦ @eljefetwisted, @WineDavid49 is it possible any more cases are available? not that I would complain about possible doubles, but Iād love extra variety and (of course) the lower price. Cheers!
@Aureliano I will make my entreaties. It seems to me that anyone who bought a 2x6 late should really want a 1x12
@Aureliano pretty late in the game. Sorry.
@Aureliano @eljefetwisted will try.
@eljefetwisted @Winedavid49 Thanks! If not, 2x6 works, especially knowing that some additional Spaniard and may be out there. Cheers!
/giphy edible-husky-plot

I have word that you guys have kicked ass on this offer and I expect there will be more Spaniard (and *%#&@!) in the mix - woo hoo!
@eljefetwisted Thank you. We have missed you. Please come by more often.
@danandlisa @eljefetwisted AND work on that MD license! Please?
@eljefetwisted Canāt wait for all the reveals in the thread!
Random Red Case Reveal
Wow, canāt wait to pop all of these. There is a GREAT mix of bottles in this case that arrived this morning. I call this a jackpot! Thanks el jefe.
2014 Olā Chumbucket
2007 Parcel 17
2013 Parcel 17
2014 Torcido
2007 Torcido
2014 The Spaniard
2015 Graciano
2009 Potty Mouth
2015 Murgatroyd
2009 Red Hill Tempranillo
2014 Bearded Dragon
2015 Touriga Nacional
@pjmartin Crossing my fingers on the sixer i got after seeing this!
So much FUN opening my random case = it did not disappoint! Thank you El Jefe.
2015 Graciano
2015 Murgatroyd
2013 Carignane
2014 The Spaniard
2014 Parcel 17
2014 Tempranillo Red Hill Vineyard
2009 Zilch Tempranillo
2014 Zilch Tempranillo
2009 Tempranillo Rolleri Vineyard
2011 %#&@!
2011 Torcido
2015 OLā Chumbucket
Mystery Case Redemption!!! Thank you El Jefe! Super p.oād that I didnāt commit to the case but in my six:
2- 2015 Torcido
1-2015 Graciano
1- 2014 Parcel 17
1- 2013 %#&@!
1- 2014 The Spaniard
I think my case is getting delivered to my wootlegger as we speak but unfortunately I wonāt get it unveiled for a few days. The suspense is very real now!
In Year Order-
2006 Parcelā17
2007 Torcido
2009, 2011, 2014 Zilch Tempranillo
2013 Tempranillo Rolleri Vineyard
2013 %#&@!
2014 Carignane
2014 The Spaniard
2014 Chumbucket
2015 Graciano
2015 Torcido
Super Happy!
Iāve never had any Twisted Oak wines before, so Iām excited to try. The note that came along with the half case was also super fun!
Just wondering - is it normal for 5/6 bottles to have exposed corks? All are still in very good condition.
2013 Tempranillo āZilchā
2014 Murgatroyd
2014 Parcel 17
2015 Graciano
2015 Tempranillo - Red Hill Vineyard
2015 Tourgia Nacional
Canāt wait to read more about theseā¦and of courseā¦imbibe
Thanks for such a fun deal!!
@tofarber Nice batch! We ditched the capsules over the corks a few years ago. They really have no utility and just create waste. And now you can see the pretty tree on the cork end
Mixed 6. No skull or Spaniard.
2015 Graciano
2015 Murgatroyd
2015 OLā Chumbucket
2015 Torcido
2015 Partial 17
2013 Tempranillo (Sheep Shack)
Cheers!
Received two 2014 Murgatroyds in my case. Just curious - did the high demand for this offer drive the occasional duplication in cases?
@mb1973 I had a duplicate in my six! So, maybe?
@mb1973 @wmhatch We did our best to randomize at our end - but there were unexpected challenges Iāll detail below.
@eljefetwisted @mb1973 not complaining. I promise! Besides I got a Spaniard so I win!
@eljefetwisted No worries, 11 out of 12 aināt bad. Hereās the rest of my case:
2014 Murgatroyd (2)
2013 Bearded Dragon
2014 Carignane
2015 Olā Chumbucket
2014 The Spaniard
2010 *%#&@!
2014 Parcel 17
2006 Torcido
2012 Torcido
2015 Torcido
2015 Graciano
2006 Tempranillo
2009 Zilch
2009 Parcel 17
2011 Torcido
2013 Rolleri Vineyard Tempranillo
2013 Zilch
2014 Carignane
2014 Murgatroyd
2014 The Spaniard
2014 Parcel 17
2015 Olā Chumbucket
2015 Bearded Dragon
We are currently having fun reading the back labels.
Nice offer, thank you!
Got a 2005 Torcido, kinda excited about that in a 6 pack!
I love opening presents. On to the reveal. Much more exciting than a Red Ryder!
2007 Parcel 17
2009 Parcel 17
2014 Parcel 17
2009 Tempranillo Sheep Shack vineyard
2011 Torcido
2013 Olā Chumbucket
2013 Potty Mouth
2014 Spaniard
2014 Carignane
2014 Tempranillo Red Hill vineyard
2015 Tempranillo Red Hill vineyard
2015 Graciano
Canāt wait to pop these open. Any words of wisdom on drinking windows? Thank you El Jefe. Such a fun deal. Cheers
@chefjess Damn, thatās the jackpot for me! Parcel 17 is my favourite and you got three!!
@klezman
Iāve never had the Parcel 17 so now Iām even more excited!! Woohoo!
So my favorite bottle from TO is the torcido, and I got two including a 2005! So stoked.
Nice to see the reveals! If you still donāt have yours, there is a reasonā¦ we used a shipping company to get this large pile of wine over to Casemates/WCC to be shipped to you. When the shipment arrived it was short 31 cases!
We immediately assembled replacement cases and I drove them over to WCC in my SUV last Friday.
The cherry on top of the whole situation? The missing 31 showed up today at WCC!
Apologies for those of you who got dupes, we tried. Itās possible that the shipping company did a remix on some cases - for unknown reasons many of the 31 that arrived today were repacked. Or, itās very possible we made a few boo boos packing the 31 replacements (it was kind of a rush jobā¦)
Anyway, enjoy your mysteries! And feel free to drop me a line at tastingroom@twistedoak.com
In my six pack, I got:
2x 2015 Torcido
2014 Parcel 17
2015 OlāChumbucket
2008 The Spaniard
2013 *%#&@!
Was I supposed to get two of the same bottle in a 6 pack? I have a picture to prove itās the same year.
@Drez143 And you somehow got MY The Spaniard 2008! Can we speak to a manager??
@Drez143 check my rant above about the shipping
@eljefetwisted yup, thatās on me for not checking first!
I love the selection and offer. Thanks!
@Drez143 you wonāt be unhappy with two Torcidos
My Mystery Six:
2008 The Spaniard
2013 Potty Mouth
2014 Bearded Dragon
2014 Parcel 17
2014 Torcido
2015 Torcido
super excited! Iāll be making a homemade Ziti and inviting some friends over for a sampling!
#%$&^ āSounds like cluck pairs with Duckā Mouvedre
20011 Torcido
2013 Rolleri Vineyard Tempranillo
2013 Zilch
2014 Syrah
2015 Murgatroyd
2014 The Spaniard
2007 and 2013 Parcel 17
2013 Olā Chumbucket
2013 and 2015 Bearded Dragon.
Ya me despido. CuĆdese!!!
My shipment is on the truckā¦hopefully not getting cooked as we speak. These reveals are getting me excited!!
Winner winner rubber chicken dinner! Aināt no Zin in this box
oh and arrived in the morning cool to the touch!
2008 Spaniard
2015 Torcido
2013 sheepshack temp
2013 xz!*#
2015 chumbucket
2015 touriga
@ScottW58 well done on the '08
@ScottW58 we are not Zinners at Twisted Oak!
I got four from 2015:
Ā Murgatroid
Ā Graciano
Ā Touriga Nacional
Ā Tempranillo (Red Hill)
One from 2013:
Ā Tempranillo (Sheep Shack)
And a 2007 Parcel 17.
Looking forward to diving in.
2015 Graciano
2012 Petite Sirah
2013 *%#ā¬@!
2014 Torcido
2014 Murgatroyd
2014 The Spaniard
Happy for sure
2006 Parcel17
2009 Olā Chumbucket
2009 Red Hill Temp
2010 *%#&@!
2010 Carignane
2011 Petite Sirah
2013 Sheep Shack Temp
2013 Torcido
2014 Torcido
2014 Spaniard
2014 Olā Chumbucket
2015 Graciano
@rjquillin You can send that Parcel 17 my way if you have too much wine. Just saying
Finally arrived! A bit warm to the touch but not hot.
2015 Partial 17 (is that partly from Parcel 17?)
2013 Zilch Tempranillo
2013 %$#@ (Potty Mouth Red)
2008 Olā Chumbucket
2015 Graciano
2006 Torcido Grenache (one of the old silk screened bottles!)
Wish Iād gotten those 2007 Parcel 17s that have been going around but this is a nice selection.
@klezman Partial 17 is 2/3 of the blend of the Parcel 17, as you might expect - enjoy!
Super excited about my collection! Muchos gracias el jefe!
2007 Parcel 17
2009 Parcel 17
2014 Parcel 17
2009 Tempranillo Sheep Shack Vineyard
2013 Tempranillo Rolleri Vineyard
2013 Tempranillo āZilchā
2015 Tempranillo Red Hill Vineyard
2011 Torcido
2013 *%#&@!
2014 Spaniard
2014 Carignane
2015 Bearded Dragon
2015: Torcido x 2, Partial 17.
2013 : *%#@!, Bearded Dragon, Sheep Shack Tempranillo. Sehr gut, mein Herr!
2014 Murgatroyd
2005 Torcido
2013 āZilchā Tempranillo
2015 Tempranillo (Red Hill Vineyard)
2015 Touriga Nacional
2015 Graciano
Now THATāS how you do a mystery box.
@vandemusser
!
2007/2014 Parcel 17
2008 Ol Chumbucket
2013 Tempranillo Rolleri Vineyard
2013 Tempranillo Zilch
2015 Touriga Nacional
Kind of excited since I have no idea what to expect. Donāt know much ābout wine ācept it tastes good going down!
2008 The Spaniard
2013 *%#$@!
2014 Parcel 17
2x2015 Torcido
2015 Olā Chumbucket
Best mystery box ever!
2006 Torcido
2011 Torcido
2009 Parcel 17
2014 Parcel 17
2015 Graciano
2015 Olā Chumbucket
2014 The Spaniard
2013 *%#&@!
2009 Tempranillo - Sheep Shack Vineyard
2013 Tempranillo - āZilchā
2014 Tempranillo - Red Hill Vineyard
2015 Tempranillo - Red Hill Vineyard
More, please.
Unfortunately I ended up with THREE duplicates. I guess Iāll live.
1x 2009 Tempranillo Rolleri Vineyard
1x 2011 Torcido
1x 2011 *%#&@!
1x 2014 Carignane
1x 2015 Bearded Dragon
1x 2015 Ol Chumbucket
2x 2007 Torcido
2x 2009 Tempranillo āZilchā
2x 2014 Tempranillo āZilchā
Unfortunately wonāt be able to partake in any of these until October at the earliest.
Please email me tastingroom@twistedoak.com
I got in ye mystery box
2007 Parcel 17
2009 Parcel 17
2014 Parcel 17
2013 Tempranillo Sheep Shack vineyard
2013 Tempranillo Rolleri Vineyard
2014 Tempranillo Red Hill Vineyard
2011 Torcido
2015 Bearded Dragon
2014 Spaniard
2014 Carignane
2013 *%#&@!
2015 Graciano
Excited to try them all!
Any recommendations on where to start?
@normanl0
At the top
@normanl0 Nearly my exact same set! Just a Graciano in place of my Tempranillo Zilch. Cheers!
@normanl0 Start with the oldest, though a Parcel 17 vertical party would be fun!
@eljefetwisted @normanl0 Oooh! Are you in SoCal? I want to come to a Parcel 17 Vertical Party!
(Just checked CT and very pleased to discover I still have a 2007 and 2x2009!!! YES!)
@eljefetwisted @klezman In St. Louis, but I was thinking the same thing about a vertical party!
@normanl0 @eljefetwisted - I just wanted to tell El Jefe that this is the best case of wine I have ever gotten from Casemates and that old wine site (have had 5 bottles from offer so far). By far the best offer I have purchased from Casemates and cannot wait for the next offer from Twisted Oak!
Trying to go from memory, not a good thing:
2008 Spaniard
2013 *%#&@!
2015 Partial 17
2015 Bearded Dragon
2x 2015 Graciano
Not at all worried about the dupe on the Graciano. I have a '16 Graciano already, so i can drink one now and keep a mini-vertical for later!
Thanks @eljefetwisted . This was a fantastic idea and a fun surprise!
OK folksā¦I have not gone through all of the chats butā¦All of the wine from this offer is corked and or vinegar. Have opened 4 thus far and dumped all of them. Even saved for a few days hoping the would at least turn into something I could use in āsomething/anythingā. Uuh!
@bullsugar1
I have opened 2 so far and so good, sorry to hear that.
@bullsugar1 That sucks. Care to share which bottles you received?
@bullsugar1 That sucks! So sorry to hear.
Very happy with this purchase. Iāve opened 4 so far and theyāve all been beyond delicious. Friends that shared them think Iām some super magical wine expert. Thanks El Jefe!
I didnāt purchase because of funds, but these reveals have solidified that Twisted Oak, and El Jefe, are one of the best casemates participants. Hope to see another offer in a better position. These bottle reports are awesome!
VAN MURALS! GROUND SQUIRRELS! SPIT CURLS! AWESOME!
I know this is an old thread at this point, but Iāve drank down 9 of my case in the last week (vacation and my wootlegger brought the case) and every single one has been good. They all taste similar after a while but all have been delicious.