Well 300 ÷12 is $25 MSRP per IMHO just go to the site and see all there $25 MSRP bottles and see how many of them you want in your cellar? I would think they already have them discounted so maybe you could cherry pick your case for the same price yeah I’m being negative but what the hell I’m in a mood
I could see the appeal for many, but exactly what I don’t need to try to find room for right now is 12 more unknown bottles. I remember the last mystery case from WD where I kept only 2 or 3. Not saying this is that, just sayin’.
@joed10303@rjquillin@ScottW58 Yeah, I’m done with mystery cases for the most part. The exception would be from a single producer I trust. Have had great experiences across the board with places like Twisted Oak, Zepaltas, SH, Wellington, etc.
@hscottk@joed10303@rjquillin@ScottW58 I’ve enjoyed the cast majority of bottles I’ve gotten in my garagiste mystery cases over the years, too. But I like most of his selections so it’s fairly low risk for me.
@CorTot@joed10303@rjquillin Mine sounds similar to what @joed got (5 red, 5 white, 1 rose, NV Decoded Doux). The winner appears to be the first below (no prices on CT for the 2012, but the 2011/2013 show 43/60):
2012 Marchesi Mazzei Maremma Toscana Tenuta Belguardo
2016 Planeta Nero d’Avola La Segreta Nero d’Avola
2014 Haras de Pirque Cabernet Sauvignon Hussonet Gran Reserva
2015 Bertani Valpolicella Corvina Blend
2015 Castello di Gabiano Barbera d’Asti Superiore Adornes
2019 Geyser Peak Sauvignon Blanc
2018 Outlot Sauvignon Blanc Sonoma County
2018 Domaine Jolly et Fils Petit Chablis Chardonnay
2017 Barons de Rothschild (Lafite) Bordeaux Legende Blanc
2020 Octopoda Chardonnay
NV Precision Decoded Doux (France)
2019 Jean-Luc Colombo Cape Bleue Rosé
Well I took a flyer on this as well. Here’s what I got:
(It’s different from some of yours)
NV Decoded Sparkling Wine
2018 Outlot Sauvignon Blanc
2018 Decoded Chardonnay
2016 Chateau Timberlay Bordeaux Sauvignon
2014 Hussonet Gran Reserva Cabernet Sauvignon
2018 Timberlay Bordeaux red blend
2018 Precision Zinfandel
2019 Octopoda Cabernet Sauvignon
2003 Primum Merlot
2012 Hologram Cabernet Sauvignon
2015 Grapeheart Vineyards The Beat red blend
The last 3 or 4 look very interesting. I am not familiar with any of them though. Anyone know any of these?
De Negoce has a case of Rutz 2018 Sonoma Cuvee Pinot Noir for $119 including shipping. Not sure if DN has done a branded US offer before. Not tried it - any thoughts? Also not sure about shipping to East Coast given current low temps.
@CorTot@kawichris650 It sounds like they tried to get more local community to start up, but it didn’t get enough uptake. But maybe some of the tools they wrote for order sharing can make their way here…
Wine.com has the 2017 Noceto Sangiovese for $22. Noceto is currently selling the 2018 for $28 on their website. I was able to use the $20 off $100 (MISSYOU20) discount code posted by @kawichris650 (TY!) Shipping is extra unless you have stewardship.
@davirom We need another Noceto offer on Casemates, that’s what we need. I’m down to 2 375s of the 2015 Sangiovese. I think it worked out to something like $6 per 375. Why didn’t I buy more? And that mixed offer with the ax1 and OGP zin…. Those were the days. Anyone try that ax1, btw? Still holding mine….
@davirom@deadlyapp Their regular pricing sucks. But when you have those coupons you can find great deals. Shipping is also terrible, so if you plan to use them for a while I’d recommend signing up on their annual shipping program. You can also get cashback using RetailMeNot and Rakuten.
@deadlyapp The advantages of wine.com and its ilk, IMO, are: wide variety, consumer selectable for quantities and mix, no time pressure (not deal-a-day), usually slightly discounted prices that, as @klezman points out, can be combined with coupons from various sources, and they will delay shipping in extreme weather at no additional cost. In wine.com’s case, “stewardship” (their annual shipping program with no minimum number of bottles) is $50 vs CM currently at $72.
CM prices are the best I’ve found but other aspects can be cumbersome.
@deadlyapp@radiolysis@rjquillin Yeah, I got $2 off per bottle - wasn’t expecting that. Is that from their settlement a while back for false advertising?
Also it looks like they’ve started collecting tax for CA. Bummer.
Larry is releasing his first ever Pinot Noirs. Anybody want to go in on a case? It’s 3 different single-clones (114, 115, Pommard 4) plus one blend for a set of 4. A touch under $40/bottle at the case discount level.
Me too. My first Flannery. Got in the Goodfellow library selections and Marcus threw in a few extra newer releases. What time does the madness begin tomorrow? Still have Veleta and maybe the ginger preserves from zing! I didn’t see Jasper hill farms.
@chefjess@kaolis@rjquillin@ScottW58 Got a whole lot of Flannery despite my overfull freezer and two full ribs dry ageing at home. But they don’t get the funk that Flannery gets.
Picked up some SER, and working with Marcus on something from him. Getting some Red Newt, Bougetz, and Virage. Skipping other favourites, too, like Briceland and Suzor.
Suzor is back and as you can imagine i’m in, Walter Scott has really nice chards so I bought a few. A bunch of great stuff for tomorrow that I would love to buy but as you may know i’m getting too old to buy a bunch of young cabs
Screw it, I’m just drinking them too young!
Sandler is back, Our Wines from Franny Beck looks interesting, both in the value category.
Veleta is back, love the olive oil. Decent deals on Grassl but don’t need any luxury glass but did go for a few stemless and rocks glasses in the new lineup at $5 a pop, not that I need those either.
@kaolis@rjquillin@ScottW58 Thoughts on the EMH offer? I’m looking for older bottles so the 11-13 vertical is intriguing. And I think she’s selling her grapes now, so no new wine for a while. Debating that vs more Saunter……
@hscottk@kaolis@rjquillin@ScottW58 I bought some of those 2014 Saunters last year and they were excellent. I decided to branch out to Bougetz rather than load up on the 2017 Saunters. EMH was still a bit too spendy.
Thoughts/input of the “Our Wines” *Franny Beck) offer? I don’t think I’ve ever tried Franny Beck and don’t see much in the way of tasting notes of any kind on their site for any of their wines (unless I’m just missing a section somewhere?). That case price point is mighty enticing…
They have a sparkling red. Have you tried? @klezman and I keep asking @winedavid49 for the harvest moon sparkling red, but alas we haven’t seen it since ww. The Shiba Wichern sparkling red is tempting.
@chefjess@hscottk@karenhynes@Winedavid49 I didn’t notice the sparkling red they have. I’m bummed that the Red Newt icewine and other dessert wines are so over the top expensive - even more than what they charge in Niagara! Even at BD pricing the 3-pack of icewine would instantly be the second most expensive icewine I’ve ever bought, although probably the most expensive if you converted it all to USD.
@InFrom@karenhynes I bought the Our Wines case, I’ve had a smattering of Franny Beck and enjoyed them all. Same treatment as their other wines, just barrels that didn’t make the cut. So for under $16 figured what the heck.
@karenhynes I bought a mixed case last year from Franny Beck which included 16s/17s of the Blue label and the single vineyard Johan and Chenaie. I thought they were excellent with the Blue label more plush and rounded and the single vineyards more nuanced… all terrific imho. Made it half way through the case in a year and now the dilemma is do I re-up or wait a year (ha).
I’m bummed that the Orr Chenin Blanc vertical 6-pack sold out before I noticed it was live. I consoled myself with a set of her 2021 futures. I was tempted by her Merlot, but I still have the bottle I got on BD last year, and I’m trying to exercise a tiny bit of restraint. Still waiting for another couple of wineries to hit.
@klezman@ScottW58 I’m up to 42 (Sabelli Frisch, Briceland, Kelly Fox and Shiba Wichern) and can’t seem to stop! Still looking at Virage, Orr, Bougetz, Campesino, and even the Ansonia/french offering. Preview day definitely leads to more buying. The natural factors to slow things down melt away…
@hscottk@ScottW58 If I picked up everything I wanted it would easily be close to 100 bottles. And I was going to skip Goodfellow, but Marcus is putting something together for me to drink sooner while I wait for the new stuff to mature, otherwise it was 26 across 4 orders.
I’m nice and light this year just 12 bottles I think? And a freezer full of meat from Morgan and Flannery, I even got 2 60 day aged New York’s for when people like you come over and want rotten meat Marcus is a good man fortunately everything he and Kelley were offering I already have so no buys from them.
DiCostanzo, Champion Bottle, Goodfellow, Lagier-Meredith, Saunter, Salt Vine, Shiba Wichern (red sparkling so couldn’t resist) Campesino, Schontal, SER, Flannery, Morgan Ranch, Veleta, Grassl, maybe a few more? Many splits with some others in the area, except the Veleta and MR. no sharing.
What y’all hauling for BD this year? I’m looking at getting a 12 pack of Prima Materia to try all those varietals. Maybe Briceland and some glassware stuff. I gotta be super careful, I quit working for “the system” 6 months back to take on other challenges in life…poor wifey.
@TechnoViking I have some of the glasvin, just the universal stems, if you’re looking for a nice glass at a nice price. Haven’t tried any of the newer designs. Might like my Gabriel Golds a bit more but for $25 the glasvin can’t be beat.
Thanks for the support. Will get an invoice out to you later this afternoon.
Unfortunately, 2017-2020 were difficult years for us with fires. We didn’t feel the wines were up to the level we had hoped. Thankfully in 2021 we were able to produce reds again.
@kaolis I just Karate chopped my last Gabriel Glass last week, except it wasn’t as cool as Cobra Kai. Fortunately BD was around the corner to make up for my mistakes. I’ll have to look at some of these universal options.
@CorTot@hscottk@ScottW58 I got a bunch of Campesino last year, got a few bottles wrong, he sent more replacements that were wrong with one of my missing packs, I gave up, only cause I got 3 extra bottles of the Isa and the poor guy kept dropping the ball.
@CorTot@TechnoViking Hope things get better for him, but it looks like he stopped making whites as well. Not sure why fires would affect whites but not the rose. Hey, the rose sells well and he keeps making it. Hope things get better…seems like a nice guy.
@CorTot@ScottW58@TechnoViking I got 2 cases last year as well. Several shipping delays. Several emails of ‘it’s going out this week’ and then nothing. Then temps started to rise and he finally made it happen. Sounds like he has a day job and is squeezing this in.
@chipgreen Work? What is this “work” of which you speak?
Last year I joined at the paid level (the lowest one), which gives access to early-bird buys on the 26th from a decent number of wineries. For me, it’s worth the small spend. I picked up Suzor yesterday, among others.
It’s not a deal per-say but I wouldn’t expect it on a deal site and you probably won’t find anything this old unless you go to the auction houses, but WS has a 1990 Lagrange Pomerol up today for $75. Mixed notes on CT as to whether or not it’s past its prime or still hanging on.
If you like Gary Vaynerchuk’s wines (Empathy)
Today Only he has a 30% off code (SCORE30)
with FS @ $250, before discount.
I like his Reds, Over-extracted, Highly Manipulated,
and at $14 a bottle, a great deal.
I also got a case of Bubbly Rose cans…only a few
months 'til the pool opens…
Flannery ribeyes 20% off through Monday, Feb 14 plus a riddle in his message….
In anticipation of upcoming Valentine’s Day, here are a few of my favorite quotes:
“All you need is love. But a little chocolate Ribeye now and then doesn’t hurt.”
Charles R. Schulz
“There are never enough I Love You’s. Ribeyes”
Lenny I. Bruce
Life is the flower for which love a Ribeye is the honey. -
Victor B. Hugo
They invented hugs Ribeyes to let people know you love them without saying anything.
-Bil E. Keane
Love doesn’t make the world go round. Love and Ribeyes are is what makes the ride worthwhile.
-Franklin Y. Jones
A flower cannot blossom without sunshine, and man cannot live without love Ribeyes.
Max E. Muller
No pressure here, but does anyone see a correlation? There is talk of chocolate, flowers, hugs and love; but the common thread in all 6 is Ribeyes! Don’t feel bad if you missed it, after all, I am a professional. So, guess what’s on sale for Valentine’s day? From today through Monday the 14th, take 20% off our delicious California Reserve Ribeye Steaks.
And because nothing puts me in a better mood than a great deal on spectacular steaks, I’m raising the stakes on this sale - tell us in the comments box (during checkout) where I’ve hidden the extra R.I.B.E.Y.E. in this email, and I’ll throw an extra goodie in your order on us
CAWineclub.com has a sale on with $1 shipping on orders of 6 or 12 bottles - you do not have to be a member of wine club to participate (I am not). Just ordered mixed case including Keller Estate 2016 La Cruz Pinot Noir for $18 a bottle (which I have not tried but like their Rotie which has been on here).
@davirom@deadlyapp@msten@rjquillin@ScottW58 Hahaha…fair enough. But the average of the top 1% is skewed very heavily toward the top 0.1% for whatever that’s worth. The 99th percentile income - i.e. the border line of the top 1% - is $357k. That makes the least spendy of those verticals more like 1.5 months of income. That enough to get you to bite, Scott??
@FritzCat@klezman@rjquillin how so? I haven’t bought much from them but have shipped a couple of lockers worth of stuff now. Their shipping leaves much to be desired (took 3 or 4 weeks to ship my last case after requesting it) but I’m generally not in any hurry.
@deadlyapp@FritzCat@rjquillin They lost bottles, wouldn’t give me a proper refund, forced me to take it as store credit, refused to acknowledge their mistakes, and also have refused to answer questions about their sometimes incorrect and/or misleading write-ups.
@FritzCat@klezman@rjquillin Ouch. Yeah I’ve been very careful with the write-ups, but I’ve run into that with others (eg Garagiste selling giscours the other day, but their 2nd or 3rd label). I suspect you buy enough wine from anyone you’ll eventually run into a few issues.
@deadlyapp@FritzCat@rjquillin yeah, it’s less about the existence of issues than how they resolve them. For their crazy bluster in the emails, garagiste has always resolved issues to my satisfaction as have all other places I’ve bought from. Obviously YMMV.
DNEW50 $50 off $150 (new member only)
50ROKT $50 off $150
CELLAR50 $50 off $200
STOCKUP50 $50 off $200
TRAVEL50 $50 off $250
DISCOVER50 $50 off $250
PERKSPOT30 $30 off $100
DOWNLOAD30 $30 off $100
HELLOAPP20 $20 off $50
JOURNEY $20 off $50
Missyou20 $20 off $100
EXPERT20 $20 off $100
PARTYWINE $30 off $150
Sent a message with my order; “Please ship via FedEx if at all possible, thanks!”.
Today, I get this response;
“Good Morning David!
Thanks for reaching out to WTSO. Unfortunately, your order has already been packaged and loaded up, therefore we can not change any shipping options at this time. I have set your account to only ship UPS moving forward. If you’d like I can always send this back to us and reship the order using UPS. Please confirm on what you would prefer and I will gladly assist you.
WTSO Customer Service”
Props for packing/shipping and replying to a customer service request all within 12 hours of placing the order but AYFKM?
I am truly impressed at the lightning speed with which they fulfilled the order and replied to my request, especially their willingness to recall the package and resend it using my preferred vendor. Unfortunately, their complete lack of comprehension negates all of that and now I had to write a second request, imploring them NOT to mark my account to ship via UPS!
Interesting I have had nothing but the best customer service from them bar none. Once a package got lost on the way and they recalled and sent a new one no questioned asked not to mention when checking out they have an option to send to any local fed ex store instead of your address.
I don’t remember seeing that option. It did not even specify that it was being sent via FedEx or there never would have been a note sent in the first place. It just said “Ground shipping” when I checked out.
@kawichris650 have you had this particular cut? I have at a restaurant but never at home. Description says there is a huge tendon down the middle that needs to be removed. Is this true? If yes how dufficult is it? Thanks
@kawichris650@losthighwayz The description goes on to say, “This is why the steak, while referred to as “a” Hanger, will arrive in two sections.”, which implies that the have removed the tendon (hence two sections of meat).
RMN has 30% cash back on WDC (I believe its max $50 cash back per order) - plus some good coupons out there - Scott listed some above a couple of weeks ago (e.g. stockup50 - $50 off $200). Time to try that L’Ecole Ferguson!
WS is doing some way over the top bottles today, but deals are questionable. I only price checked some Stags Leap Cask 23 and it was about 10% less than what my local grocery store is selling for, but YMMV.
@msten I bought the Berserker Day Mystery Case, of Reds, and was pleased. 6 wines, 2 of each. I drank through 6 and saved 6 to drink next year. All 90/91 pt. wines except one Wash. Cab. that I didn’t like…too old-world for me. I’ve bought a lot of the de Negoce wines, and have been impressed by the QPR.
The hits just keep coming on ‘tso. ‘17 Lucas and Lewellen PN for $18/fs with 4. These guys were before my time on the old site, but seemed to be well received. Curious what the old timers think about this one.
@CorTot@ScottW58 Seriously! I’m done now, got a case of IH coming in the fall.
I guess when the retailer buys the wine outright they can get better pricing than WD. These are consistently better than anything here recently.
How do you know they bought it outright? I would think if they did Iron Horse would put some kind of limit on how little they could sell it for? If I was a wine club member paying $70 or $80 per bottle from the winery and it starts showing up on a flash site for $20 I would be mighty pissed.
@CorTot@ScottW58 I’ve long been under the impression that WTSO’s business model is to source/buy/commission wine in large quantities to help wineries move product. Unlike the model here, that usually means buying the wine outright, but it also means they are the seller and are subject to wine retailer shipping laws.
Wineries can’t control what retailers ask for a particular bottle. Their only method of ensuring a price floor is to not sell the wine wholesale below a certain price. But if Iron Horse needed the warehouse space and/or a cash influx for, e.g., bottling, then selling 500 cases in a single transaction, even at $10/bottle, is $60k.
I don’t exactly know but I remember a few years ago Woodland hills wine got in trouble with Liquid Farm for selling there wine below what they told them they could sell it for in one of their sales? Either way if I was in the wine club and they undersold me I would quit. Only exception would be a distributer dump.
I find myself less inclined to buy wine that “should be” cellared for 10 or more years, so I was pleased to find WTSO showing several bottles with 10+ years on them already, including a Mt Veeder cab and a couple of Clarendon Hills syrahs, for under $40. There are also younger and pricier wines from e.g., Chateau Montelena and Heitz Cellar.
Oh also - I received a wine.com 100 off 300 coupon in the mail this week that I may or may not use, so if anyone is interested in it, please whisper me. I’m not feeling up for shipping in this hot weather (already consistent 95 degree days here in Houston).