I would really like to know how many wineries actually pair their wines with what they suggest. It is like my long-assumed notion that the winemaker describes the wine in simple terms. Then decides the SRP, and describes it according to the biggest thesaurus words they can find.
There is a bread/yeasty note:
-80 point wines: “Leavened bread.”
-90 point wines: “Mature sourdough starter.”
-95 point wine: “Notes of a well-browned Parisian baugette made with some obscure french wheat.”
Same thing with food pairings:
-80 point wines: BBQ
-90 point wines: Authentic Texas BBQ with a special dry rub smoked over wood that only grows in Texas.
-95 point wines: Flannery dry-aged Wagu A5 Kobe, Special Reserve, Guinness-fed veal 600 days. (Looking at you @rjquillin) smoked over wine stave chips and let to rest in the cool saline Pacific breeze.
Edit: I know good veal is milk fed… just indulge me in the decadence of descriptors.
@rjquillin@ScottW58 It was just a tongue-in-cheek jab at the pretentiousness of some wine pairing suggestions.
Good on you all for enjoying Flannery beef. I have never heard of it outside of this site. Yet, I see it mentioned a lot. The price per pound is, eh, steep. So a winemaker would say it pairs with ridiculous things like Alba truffles or Flannery Beef trying to convey a sense of exclusivity.
@KNmeh7@rjquillin
Actually I don’t think I have seen that from wineries? From what I understand they first factor the cost of the grapes per ton, then the cost of the consultant if they have one, then the cost of hauling grapes to the winery plus cost of labor for sorting crushing and barreling etc etc, plus the cost of the barrels. And I would guess the cost of storing said barrels forever how long it takes to be ready to bottle, add cost of bottles and labels and marketing/advertising. Then I guess they would add whatever they think their art or skill/ego is worth
Maybe less if you own the land and grow the grapes yourself? Although the cost of land in California has got to play a big part. I probably missed a bunch of shit? It’s a wonder they make any money at all
I would really like to know how many wineries actually pair their wines with what they suggest. It is like my long-assumed notion that the winemaker describes the wine in simple terms. Then decides the SRP, and describes it according to the biggest thesaurus words they can find.
There is a bread/yeasty note:
-80 point wines: “Leavened bread.”
-90 point wines: “Mature sourdough starter.”
-95 point wine: “Notes of a well-browned Parisian baugette made with some obscure french wheat.”
Same thing with food pairings:
-80 point wines: BBQ
-90 point wines: Authentic Texas BBQ with a special dry rub smoked over wood that only grows in Texas.
-95 point wines: Flannery dry-aged Wagu A5 Kobe, Special Reserve, Guinness-fed veal 600 days. (Looking at you @rjquillin) smoked over wine stave chips and let to rest in the cool saline Pacific breeze.
Edit: I know good veal is milk fed… just indulge me in the decadence of descriptors.
@KNmeh7 Don’t forget @ScottW58
@KNmeh7 @rjquillin
What?! I have no clue what all this means?
@rjquillin @ScottW58 It was just a tongue-in-cheek jab at the pretentiousness of some wine pairing suggestions.
Good on you all for enjoying Flannery beef. I have never heard of it outside of this site. Yet, I see it mentioned a lot. The price per pound is, eh, steep. So a winemaker would say it pairs with ridiculous things like Alba truffles or Flannery Beef trying to convey a sense of exclusivity.
@KNmeh7 @ScottW58 Ahhhh…
Truffles.
Yeah, Scott got me hooked on those too!
@KNmeh7 @rjquillin
Actually I don’t think I have seen that from wineries? From what I understand they first factor the cost of the grapes per ton, then the cost of the consultant if they have one, then the cost of hauling grapes to the winery plus cost of labor for sorting crushing and barreling etc etc, plus the cost of the barrels. And I would guess the cost of storing said barrels forever how long it takes to be ready to bottle, add cost of bottles and labels and marketing/advertising. Then I guess they would add whatever they think their art or skill/ego is worth
Maybe less if you own the land and grow the grapes yourself? Although the cost of land in California has got to play a big part. I probably missed a bunch of shit? It’s a wonder they make any money at all
@KNmeh7 You forgot the Night Train: “Hints of bread with unknown provenance from the dumpster out behind the local Italian restaurant”.
@FritzCat @KNmeh7
“That Night Train is a mean wine.” - Jake Blues