2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley, California, Amador County
Double Gold Medal ~ Amador County Fair 92 Points ~ Wine Enthusiast 91 Points ~ Planet Grape Gold, 95 points ~ California State Fair Gold ~ 2024 The San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition Gold ~ 2023 Dan Bergerās International Wine Competition
Tasting Notes
Nocetoās flagship Sangiovese is modeled after an Old World Tuscan Chianti - medium-bodied, beautiful acidity, fruit-packed, easy-drinking, well-balanced, and extremely versatile with food. This wine is widely regarded as "the best Sangiovese in California:ā (Dan Berger, Darrell Corti, Mike Dunne, Elaine Taylor). 2020 marks Nocetoās 31st vintage.
The 2020 Noceto Sangiovese is ripe and bright, with cherry fruit at its center and a lingering palate. Secondary flavors include cassis, cranberry, rich plum, peppery spice, and light oak. Exceptionally food-friendly: Pair with red sauces, spicy ethnic foods, and light meats.
Vineyards
Grapes are from 14 separate lots -98 % from five clonal Sangiovese selections and 2% Canaiolo Nero. Made with 100% Estate vines, including cuttings sourced from Isole e Olena (47%) in Chianti as well as 11 Poggione (31%), Altesino (12%), and Biondi Santi (3%) in Montalcino. Each lot is harvested and fermented separately prior to selective blending.
Winemaking
The fruit is cold-soaked 1-2 days, then, fermented in stainless steel bins and French oak for 7-10 days at 70Ā°-85Ā° Fahrenheit to preserve bright varietal characteristics. The wine ages in 130-gallon, predominantly French oak puncheon to soften youthful tannins.
Specs
Vintage: 2020
Varietal: Sangiovese
Appellation: Shenandoah Valley, California
Harvested Aug 27 - Sep 26, 2020
Bottled March 7-8, 2022
Alcohol 13.9%
Production: 2,600 cases
2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley, California
91 ~ Connoisseursā Guide Silver ~ 2023 Dan Bergerās International Wine Competition Silver ~ 2024 San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition
Tasting Notes
The 2020 Dos Oakies is layered, complex, and well-balanced, with great structure and classic Italian flavors. It displays dark cherry fruit and earthiness with a touch of leather, oak, and salty ocean air. It pairs well with grilled or roasted meats, steak Florentine, rich pasta, or heavy, spicy dishes like curry.
Vineyards
The oldest section of the estate vineyard, planted in 1988, the Dos Oakies block is located on the winery parcel, immediately east of the Tasting Room. The name originates from the twin oaks that flanked the vineyard, though one has since fallen in a storm. Cuttings for this block were smuggled into the country in the early 70s and conveniently planted a few miles down the road at a neighboring vineyard.
Winemaking
The fruit is crushed, and cold-soaked for 1 to 2 days, followed by fermentation in a combination of French oak puncheons and stainless steel punch-down tanks for 11 days at 70Ā°-85Ā° Fahrenheit to preserve bright varietal characteristics. The wine is aged for 19 months across two stages in a mixture of stainless steel tanks as well as 130-gallon French oak puncheons, 50% new.
Specs
Vintage: 2020
Varietal: Sangiovese
Appellation: Shenandoah Valley, California
Harvested: Sept 25 & 26, 2020
Bottled: May 16, 2022
Alcohol: 13.5%
Production: 217 cases
2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley
Gold Medal ~ SF Chronicle Wine Competition, Winemaker Challenge 93 Points ~ Planet Grape 92 Points ~ Wine Enthusiast Silver ~ 2023 Dan Bergerās International Wine Competition
Tasting Notes
The 2020 Riserva Sangiovese delivers fruit-packed flavor, including dried cranberries, pomegranate, and cherry. Displays multi-faceted, earthy complexity while retaining balance and fruitiness thatās complemented by a lingering finish. Food friendly: pair with grilled or roasted meats and rich pasta dishes.
Nocetoās Brunello-style Riserva Sangiovese is blended from the best estate lots and displays superior fruit while retaining balance. Fruit-packed, full-flavored, and complex with a lingering finish.
Vineyards
100% estate Sangiovese Grosso from two different Brunello clones (cuttings sourced from 11 Poggione and Biondi Santi vineyards). Each component is harvested and fermented separately prior to selective blending.
Winemaking
The fruit is gently crushed and cold-soaked for 1 to 2 days, followed by fermentation in stainless steel tanks, bins, and new 130-gallon French oak barrels. The wine is aged for 20 months in 130-gallon French oak puncheons, 40% new, to soften youthful tannins and gently age the wine.
Specs
Vintage: 2020
Varietal: Sangiovese
Appellation: Shenandoah Valley, California
Harvested: Sep 8 - 25, 2020
Bottled: May 16, 2022
Alcohol: 13.5%
Production: 540 cases
Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese di California
Tasting Notes
Nocetoās Rosso is a predominantly Sangiovese blend sourced from vineyards throughout the central coast and northern California. Made in a food-friendly Chianti style, this is a simple, easy-drinking go-to for an everyday red that will go with everything on your plate.
NV Rosso opens with a nose of cherry-berry, fruit roll-up, and cedar. Secondary flavors include bright cherry, cassis, leather, minerality, and balanced acid. Exceptionally food-friendly, you can pair it with anything you have on your plate - from charcuterie to Barese ragĆ¹ or Korma!
Vineyards
Grapes were sourced from multiple vineyards ranging from the central coast (Brutocao) through northern California (Noceto and Sidney Davis). In addition to Sangiovese, we also selected Sagrantino, Alicante Bouschet, and Canaiolo Nero. Each lot is harvested and fermented separately prior to selective blending.
Winemaking
2022 was a challenging year due to frost and a late-season heat wave. It really pushed winemaker Rusty Folena to take into account that every vineyard was different and that he had to adjust his winemaking to those vineyards. āThatās why there is no recipe,ā says Rusty. The fruit was cold-soaked for 24 hours, then fermented in a combination of stainless steel, bins, and French oak (depending on the vineyard) for 7-10 days at 70Ā°-85Ā° Fahrenheit to preserve bright varietal characteristics. The wine is aged in 130-gallon, predominantly French oak puncheons to soften youthful tannins.
Specs
Vintage: Non-Vintage
Varietals: Sangiovese
Appellation: California
Harvested Sep - Oct 2022
Bottled Oct 16, 2024
Alcohol 13.0% ABV
Cases 1,483
Whatās Included
6-bottles:
2x 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County
1x 2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese
1x 2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese
2x Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese di California
Case:
2x 2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese
1x 2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese
6x 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County
3x Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese di California
Price Comparison
Not all wines for sale on winery website, $326/case MSRP
Vino Noceto has been making āCaliforniaās Best Sangioveseā for over 25 years. Located in beautiful Amador County, we now make eight different Sangioveses as well as an Old Vine Zinfandel, a slightly sparkling Moscato called Frivolo, Barbera, a Tuscan Red Blend, Pinot Grigio, and more!
On their nearly forty acres they now have twenty-five acres of grapes, almost all Sangiovese, five acres of olive trees, 200 lilac bushes, and two acres of walnut trees, each contributing revenue to the farm. Buildings include their 1887 renovated ranch house, winery and tasting room buildings, and several rustic barns and outbuildings. From only 110 cases of Sangiovese in its inaugural 1990 vintage, the winery now produces 8,000 cases of wine annually. This includes 5,000 cases of nine different Sangioveses, 1,500 cases of a lively Moscato blend called Frivolo, plus an old vine Zinfandel from the Original Grandpere Vineyard, Barbera, Aglianico, and Pinot Grigio. Then thereās always some grappa when you need a nightcap ā but thatās another story!
Why Noceto? Noceto means walnut grove in Italian, and walnuts were a staple crop for the farm where the Noceto estate now stands. Noceto, Italy, near Parma, is the sister city of Suzyās native town of Walnut Creek. Plus the name is short, simple, and easily said if not necessarily properly pronounced!
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So happy to see Noceto back. Didnāt think weād ever see them on here again. Thank you Suzy and WineDavid. We just love their wines. Auto buy but can I resist buying 2 cases
2020 Noceto Sangiovese Riserva
I am always happy to be chosen as a reviewer. When I saw this wine, one that I was introduced to during wine woot years, I was even more anticipatory to see what Noceto was making, since I hadnāt tried any of their wines in a very long time. I should also reveal that I drink a lot of various Italian wines. Personally, I prefer barbera wines over sangio wines when it comes to Italian meals that call for wines with this flavor, acidity and structure.
After having just read RPMās review of the recent Pinot Noir offering, I decided to follow his guidelines, without numeric scoring, for this review. So here we go.
Appearance: Very clear, when viewing with a white background, so it was very easy to see through.
Color: Pale cranberry color, somewhat pinot noir-like.
Aroma/Bouquet: Cherry and strawberry are the most prominent, which is very consistent with Sangiovese grape. There was a faint underlying aroma of an indistinguishable citrus fruit.
Total Acidity: Minimal, but welcoming, acidity. I would expect this for a young sangio wine.
Sweetness: Very, very slight sweetness in aroma and taste.
Body: Light, which again is consistent with young sangio.
Flavor: Cherry and strawberry on the front end, with plum and something citrus, which could be lemon or grapefruit, on the aftertaste.
Bitterness: None.
Astringency: Soft tannins, but along with mild acidity is noticeable of the sides of the tongue, as well as post swallowing.
General Quality: This is a very easy wine to drink. Chianti is also made of sangio. On night 1, we had this with beef stew and on night 2 with meat loaf, with both pairing very well. At the case price of $12.50/bottle, this is a no-brainer, especially considering this as part of a four different wine offering.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: tax and shipping are not included in savings calculations.)
Noceto Mixed Sangiovese - $30 = 16.66%
The Nocento Rosso is a lite, easy drinking Sangiovese. There is no appreciable nose but opens with a slight cherry and strawberry flavor. The wine finishes with a slight astringent taste. Nice little everyday drinker but nothing to write home about.
Exactly what we were going for with the Rosso ā a light, easy-drinking red to go with lighter foods or warm-weather times ā a contrast to both the Originale, Riserva, and Dos Oakies.
2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County:
Wine Enthusiast, 92 points. The wine is rich, juicy with aromas of confiture Black plum, Black currant, maple, and dried herbs on the nose. The flavors on the palate are supple strawberry-rhubarb, candied lemon rind, dried red currant layered with dried black plum skins, toasted vanilla, chicory and a dry finish. Pair with BBQ Ribs ā Tonya Pitt 9/1/24
āRipe, bright Sangiovese; balanced, lingering finish; fruit center on palate.ā ā Dan Berger
planet grape:
91 points. $28 Mid-weight, lean, tart and dry with notes of black cherry, mushroom, bay leaf and cedar. 4/16/24
Dos Oakiesā¦
planet grape:
92 points. Light, supple, fresh and dry with notes of black cherry, blackberry, dried herbs and cedar. 4/16/24
Riservaā¦
WE:
92 points. The wine is bright, supple with aromas of baked plum, Black cherry, molasses, and clove on the nose. The flavors on the palate are fresh red plums, cassis, grilled peaches, cinnamon, layered with orange blossom honey, black tea, and a dry silky finish. Pair with Teriyaki Chicken ā Tonya Pitts 9/1/24
planet grape:
93 points. Light, elegant, juicy and dry with notes of black raspberry, cherry, red licorice, mushroom and cedar. 4/16/24
@kaolis Re: riserva on WE. I didnt get any of that. 3 of my wine drinking friends gave me their input and none had those flavors in their perceptions. YMMV.
Arrrrggghh ā¦ why did I look at CM today??! ā¦ one of, and perhaps the first wine I purchased from WD3/49 (maybe in 2007 or earlier?) was a Vino Noceto and the Gulletts are great folks. I think I might still have a VN somewhere in my ācellarā. Had to get a case and face the wrath of SWMBO. Wish me luck.
This wine reaches me on a week of sickness, so please forgive the late review. I had the opportunity to taste the 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, and found it absolutely lovely. I opened it last night, and found it to be a little tight, but with a lot of promise. It seemed very oaky and dusky, with that traditional Sangiovese bite. I could only handle a few sips at the time, so I had a little more this morning.
I really recommend this second day. Itās fully opened and has a lovely body. The nose is hard for me to discern, but even with the crud I can detect fruit and oak with maybe a dash of tobacco. I can taste dark fruit and a light oak with a dash of tobacco and vanilla. I absolutely recommend this wine, even with missing part of the experience. I canāt wait to try these when Iām able to smell and taste as normal.
@erisire Thanks for the review. Bought a case prior to reading. Do you perceive the āoakā as possible smoke taint. I have had a lot of noceto over the years and that word doesnāt come to mind. Thank you.
@erisire@Leatherchair WC member and have been drinking through a case of the 20. I can assure you there is zero smoke taint. Oak is there but not very noticeable. Itās well integrated imo (Iām not a fan of any oak in my wine )
@erisire@losthighwayz Thanks for the reaffirmation. Great to know. I ordered a case and may make it 2. Love their wines - and also just donāt like oak. Appreciate it a lot again.
@erisire@Leatherchair Weāre pouring this wine currently at the tasting room. We havenāt noticed any smoke taint to date nor tightness. Would be interested if others perceived the same.
@DanOR Not a typo. Still trying to decide what weāll retail it for ā probably $10 or $12. Also likely it will not be available in the tasting room or our website. Again, it might change.
@dianefreda
As noted beneath Whatās Included at the top of this thread:
2x 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County
1x 2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese
1x 2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese
2x Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese di California
@normanl0 Itās possible, but could depend on your location. Iāve had cases come in 1-2 weeks before delivery dates, the last was a few days in advance of the dates (the weather could have affected that as well)
So glad to see Noveto back on the site! This broke my buying moratorium. Always need to have some sangio! I also need to go back and read the reviews now that I bought.
I have been a customer since the 2003 vintage and have sampled it all back to 1991. This is the best Sangiovese in America.
I have nine bottles of Rosso left; three each from the first three bottlings of this NV wine. I donāt know how many there have been. All have been good. The earthiness of the black cherry Sangio and the rustic goodness of the Barbera make for a fine wine. Is it about 50-50? I forget. Itās always good and from the new label I see at least a 4th bottling. My brother in law told me last year or so that he liked the Rosso over the Originale. But then he drinks flavorless vodka over whiskey, so I question his palate.
The Originale (former Normale and still in need of a better moniker) is always amazing value. I marvel at how it is so good. Iāve been buying a lot of it since the 2003 vintage when I first stumbled onto it. I fell in love with the 2004 vintage which made me almost dislike the 2005, but then 10-12 years later I was amazed at how the 2005 grew into something even better. Now that they are released with an extra year of lying around, they are ready to drink on delivery. I used to wait until the holidays and some years after the New Year to drink these wines. They were not ready yet. Oh, they were drinkable, but there was a certain brooding that was disjointed to me that needed those few more months. There has never been a bad vintage, although an occasional less intense year happens once every 10 or 12 years. The flagship wine, something that still makes Noceto the best Sangiovese in America.
Riserva is the queen of the bottlings. Always complex. Occasionally the Originale approaches it but the Riserva has more depth, better balance, more intensity and an elegance you can always count on. Like a fine Brunello. You canāt go wrong. Whatever ever Rusty Folena the winemaker does to blend this up, I always marvel at how good it is.
And then itās Dos Oakies. They have a trio of single vineyard wines. Marmellata is jammy and Hillside is also regal, but Dos Oakies packs the best punch. My last of my 2004 trio of those wines were drunk up last year and all three were still dark, youthful and wonderful. They made the 20 years I had thought theyād last and my God, they had many more left in them. The Dos Oakies was the best. My wife, eldest granddaughter and I manufactured about 12 dozen Cannelloni for Christmas, half meat and half cheese, handmade pasta. We did the trio with them, half the pasta in red sauce and half in a creamy sauce. Our family raved about the pasta and the wines. Dos Oakies was everyoneās favorite. The acid cut through the tomato tartness and fattiness of the cream sauce. A nice prime rib or ribeye and a Dos Oakies makes for a nice meal, too.
This is another amazing offer. Iām adding to my cellar!
@SteveJones you just made me darn near drool. I havenāt had Canneloni since I was a kid at Buscaliaās!!! Thank you so much for such a wealth of info on these wines!
@rjquillin@SteveJones we have less than 5 cases of the 2017 left in the tasting room. If youāre interested, reply all to that last email and Iāll let you know what we can do!
These wines are always great and are always in my personal cellar. Their winemaker Rusty Folena started working with me at Santino when he was 15 years old. We worked together for 16 years at Santino and Renwood. He is now a well respected Amador winemaker. Youāll find our styles similar. Cheers, Scott Harvey
Apologies for the late rat, but just got back from an emergency/unscheduled work fiasco. Anyway on to the:
2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley, California
Upon PnP, very fruity, light leather. Based on first sniff impressions, this is going to be VERY easy to drink.
First swirl and sip, the dark fruits come through, and it is more intense than I had imagined. Still very easy to drink. I then decanted for an hour. The fruitiness is prominent in a good way. A little earthiness/leather that rounds out the pallette. Overall a very nice, high quality wine. Went very well with the lamb bolognese we had. Just delicious. Highly recommend.
The six bottles of Sangiovese arrived today. Interestingly enough, I received two Dos Oakies, but no Riservo. Iām not complaining because I do expect the Dos Oakies to be delicious, but as someone fairly New to the wonders of enjoying and collecting wines, I was excited to try the 4 different styles.
Long term club member, and had a home in Amador City, so frequented the tasting room and drank/drink their wines a lot. Beautiful wines. Opened a 2020 āregularā on Wednesday after receiving my case, and just beautiful.
Incredibly clean. Scott Harvey trained and mentored winemaker Rusty Folena, and you will notice the similar no BS straight up non manipulated with old world style wine. Comparing the Dos Oakies to their other few āreserves,ā the Dos Oakies is my favorite. I think the āmistakeā is your benefit.
@Leatherchair Yes, Iām excited to try them! Thanks for your input. Iām certainly not complaining and I think you may be right. I was on the fence about ordering some until Scott Harvey spoke up, but after his comments I decided to grab half a case since Iāve loved the Scott Harvey wine case that I ordered.
Took delivery of a case today with no Dos Oakies but an extra Riserva instead. Had looked forward to the Dos Oakies based on the comments, but Iāll do my best to struggle through.
@CruelMelody Get ready to call them and yell at them for not actually trying to deliver. Iāve had that happen before and with enough kvetching they will agree to make another attempt.
@klezman I remembered you mentioning this, I tried but ultimately I realized a new UPS access point opened like a mile from my house. No more sitting around waiting for deliveries!
@CruelMelody
At the top of the page there is a bottle icon and āwhatās this?ā
click on it and then on āsupportā to contact CS and advise them.
2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley, California, Amador County
Double Gold Medal ~ Amador County Fair
92 Points ~ Wine Enthusiast
91 Points ~ Planet Grape
Gold, 95 points ~ California State Fair
Gold ~ 2024 The San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition
Gold ~ 2023 Dan Bergerās International Wine Competition
Tasting Notes
Vineyards
Winemaking
Specs
2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley, California
91 ~ Connoisseursā Guide
Silver ~ 2023 Dan Bergerās International Wine Competition
Silver ~ 2024 San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition
Tasting Notes
Vineyards
Winemaking
Specs
2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley
Gold Medal ~ SF Chronicle Wine Competition, Winemaker Challenge
93 Points ~ Planet Grape
92 Points ~ Wine Enthusiast
Silver ~ 2023 Dan Bergerās International Wine Competition
Tasting Notes
Vineyards
Winemaking
Specs
Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese di California
Tasting Notes
Vineyards
Winemaking
Specs
Whatās Included
6-bottles:
Case:
Price Comparison
Not all wines for sale on winery website, $326/case MSRP
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Estimated Delivery
Monday, Feb 24 - Wednesday, Feb 26
Noceto Mixed Sangiovese
6 bottles for $89.99 $15/bottle + $1.33/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $149.99 $12.50/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2020 Noceto Sangiovese
2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese
2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese
NV Noceto Rosso
So happy to see Noceto back. Didnāt think weād ever see them on here again. Thank you Suzy and WineDavid. We just love their wines. Auto buy but can I resist buying 2 cases
@dawnlac agree, pretty easy decision to buy!
/giphy torrential-gratifying-snow
@dawnlac Glad we were able to make your day!
2020 Noceto Sangiovese Riserva
I am always happy to be chosen as a reviewer. When I saw this wine, one that I was introduced to during wine woot years, I was even more anticipatory to see what Noceto was making, since I hadnāt tried any of their wines in a very long time. I should also reveal that I drink a lot of various Italian wines. Personally, I prefer barbera wines over sangio wines when it comes to Italian meals that call for wines with this flavor, acidity and structure.
After having just read RPMās review of the recent Pinot Noir offering, I decided to follow his guidelines, without numeric scoring, for this review. So here we go.
Appearance: Very clear, when viewing with a white background, so it was very easy to see through.
Color: Pale cranberry color, somewhat pinot noir-like.
Aroma/Bouquet: Cherry and strawberry are the most prominent, which is very consistent with Sangiovese grape. There was a faint underlying aroma of an indistinguishable citrus fruit.
Total Acidity: Minimal, but welcoming, acidity. I would expect this for a young sangio wine.
Sweetness: Very, very slight sweetness in aroma and taste.
Body: Light, which again is consistent with young sangio.
Flavor: Cherry and strawberry on the front end, with plum and something citrus, which could be lemon or grapefruit, on the aftertaste.
Bitterness: None.
Astringency: Soft tannins, but along with mild acidity is noticeable of the sides of the tongue, as well as post swallowing.
General Quality: This is a very easy wine to drink. Chianti is also made of sangio. On night 1, we had this with beef stew and on night 2 with meat loaf, with both pairing very well. At the case price of $12.50/bottle, this is a no-brainer, especially considering this as part of a four different wine offering.
@winedavid59 Front page says it ships to CT but will not let me place on order - can you confirm if CT is OK?
@ctmariner give it a few minutes and try again. Sorry about that!
@Thumperchick Order placed - thank you!
@ctmariner @Thumperchick
Thanks for that prompt follow-up J; seems like youāre wide awake.
@ctmariner @rjquillin Iād say Iām more moderately caffeinated than wide awake.
@Thumperchick @winedavid59 Looks like it is saying no CT again?
@char2na Hi - there was a communication mixup for this. CT was not an available state.
Apologies for the late reply, I was out yesterday.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: tax and shipping are not included in savings calculations.)
Noceto Mixed Sangiovese - $30 = 16.66%
Really tough to try to split this offer, but still good to see Noceto back after a long absence.
@rjquillin I was thinking the same thing when I saw the offering-especially since there is only one bottle of the primo one.
@rjquillin This was my āwish listā suggestion for a while now.
@hscottk @rjquillin I know, and its timing right after BD is going to have to keep me out. This makes me rather sad.
@rjquillin Glad to be back. I especially love the discussions.
The Nocento Rosso is a lite, easy drinking Sangiovese. There is no appreciable nose but opens with a slight cherry and strawberry flavor. The wine finishes with a slight astringent taste. Nice little everyday drinker but nothing to write home about.
@ThomasVBrown Is this your rattage?
@ThomasVBrown
Exactly what we were going for with the Rosso ā a light, easy-drinking red to go with lighter foods or warm-weather times ā a contrast to both the Originale, Riserva, and Dos Oakies.
@SuzyatNoceto @ThomasVBrown
From the notes, this seems to be (mostly?) from the tough '22 vintage. What else is thrown in to require the NV?
@rjquillin @SuzyatNoceto @ThomasVBrown 23% of this wine is from the 2023 vintage.
/giphy frivolous-flexible-iodine
2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County:
Wine Enthusiast, 92 points. The wine is rich, juicy with aromas of confiture Black plum, Black currant, maple, and dried herbs on the nose. The flavors on the palate are supple strawberry-rhubarb, candied lemon rind, dried red currant layered with dried black plum skins, toasted vanilla, chicory and a dry finish. Pair with BBQ Ribs ā Tonya Pitt 9/1/24
āRipe, bright Sangiovese; balanced, lingering finish; fruit center on palate.ā ā Dan Berger
planet grape:
91 points. $28 Mid-weight, lean, tart and dry with notes of black cherry, mushroom, bay leaf and cedar. 4/16/24
Dos Oakiesā¦
planet grape:
92 points. Light, supple, fresh and dry with notes of black cherry, blackberry, dried herbs and cedar. 4/16/24
Riservaā¦
WE:
92 points. The wine is bright, supple with aromas of baked plum, Black cherry, molasses, and clove on the nose. The flavors on the palate are fresh red plums, cassis, grilled peaches, cinnamon, layered with orange blossom honey, black tea, and a dry silky finish. Pair with Teriyaki Chicken ā Tonya Pitts 9/1/24
planet grape:
93 points. Light, elegant, juicy and dry with notes of black raspberry, cherry, red licorice, mushroom and cedar. 4/16/24
fwiw
@kaolis Re: riserva on WE. I didnt get any of that. 3 of my wine drinking friends gave me their input and none had those flavors in their perceptions. YMMV.
@jmdavidson1 @kaolis Everyone has different taste buds. I rarely get the same flavors as these critics (nor anyone else), either.
Arrrrggghh ā¦ why did I look at CM today??! ā¦ one of, and perhaps the first wine I purchased from WD3/49 (maybe in 2007 or earlier?) was a Vino Noceto and the Gulletts are great folks. I think I might still have a VN somewhere in my ācellarā. Had to get a case and face the wrath of SWMBO. Wish me luck.
@woopdedoo
made me look you did;
still have 3 of the Rosso from '16 woot and '18 CM purchases
@rjquillin @woopdedoo Let me know how they taste! Iām always interested in how well our wines hold up.
The front page says you can ship to Kentucky, but it wonāt let me place an order.
@ekirchner request submitted for CS to checkā¦
@ekirchner @rjquillin KY was an error. Sorry about that.
@Thumperchick np I have an Ohio backup plan
2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County
This wine reaches me on a week of sickness, so please forgive the late review. I had the opportunity to taste the 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, and found it absolutely lovely. I opened it last night, and found it to be a little tight, but with a lot of promise. It seemed very oaky and dusky, with that traditional Sangiovese bite. I could only handle a few sips at the time, so I had a little more this morning.
I really recommend this second day. Itās fully opened and has a lovely body. The nose is hard for me to discern, but even with the crud I can detect fruit and oak with maybe a dash of tobacco. I can taste dark fruit and a light oak with a dash of tobacco and vanilla. I absolutely recommend this wine, even with missing part of the experience. I canāt wait to try these when Iām able to smell and taste as normal.
@erisire Thanks for the review. Bought a case prior to reading. Do you perceive the āoakā as possible smoke taint. I have had a lot of noceto over the years and that word doesnāt come to mind. Thank you.
@erisire @Leatherchair WC member and have been drinking through a case of the 20. I can assure you there is zero smoke taint. Oak is there but not very noticeable. Itās well integrated imo (Iām not a fan of any oak in my wine )
@erisire @losthighwayz Thanks for the reaffirmation. Great to know. I ordered a case and may make it 2. Love their wines - and also just donāt like oak. Appreciate it a lot again.
@erisire @Leatherchair Weāre pouring this wine currently at the tasting room. We havenāt noticed any smoke taint to date nor tightness. Would be interested if others perceived the same.
Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese for $10? Is this a typo?
@DanOR Not a typo. Still trying to decide what weāll retail it for ā probably $10 or $12. Also likely it will not be available in the tasting room or our website. Again, it might change.
In for 6. With the meh coupon, the per bottle price is less than the case. As RJQ points out, splitting a case could be messy.
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Anyone in DFW area can claim 3 of the 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, & 1 of the Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso.
First come, first served.
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Had to see this one. Noceto is one of my two requests every time we get polled on which winery we want back.
Thanks for your persistence WD!
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This is a crazy deal! An automatic case buy!
Yes, at this price and being Noceto, Itās an auto buy for me too, even if I have no room for it!
@Boatman72 I saw Medina light up on the map and figured it was you! I had to grab a sixer too! Iāve been waiting for Noceto to make an apperance.
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Can we get a ship to a non-ship-to state? Pretty please?
Possibly. Let me know which state and I may be able to help by arranging shipping from the winery.
@SuzyatNoceto For those locked out,
just contact you here or call the winery?
@rjquillin @SuzyatNoceto this is Anamieke from Noceto. Please email into the info@noceto.com account and weāll make sure Suzy follows-up with you!
@SuzyatNoceto thanks Suzy. CT in my case.
Any eastern PA/Philly folks interested in helping me break my SIWBM with a split?
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Had to buy two half-cases for the upgrade.
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@smittypap Thatās a good call. Copy that!
Iām finally available to respond to any questions you may have. So feel free to ask away. Glad to be back with the Casemates community!
Which wines are included in the 1/2 case?
@dianefreda
As noted beneath Whatās Included at the top of this thread:
2x 2020 Noceto Sangiovese, Amador County
1x 2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese
1x 2020 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese
2x Non-Vintage Noceto Rosso Sangiovese di California
Auto-buy! Didnāt even bother to read comments until I had ordered a case.
Great to see Noceto on Casemates!
Any chance this is would show up earlier than estimated delivery dates?
@normanl0 Itās possible, but could depend on your location. Iāve had cases come in 1-2 weeks before delivery dates, the last was a few days in advance of the dates (the weather could have affected that as well)
@james @normanl0 Also depends on how quickly we can get the wine to Sonoma. We hope we can get it there by first thing next week.
@james @SuzyatNoceto I will be out of town and was hoping it would not come any sooner than the 24th if I ordered. In Missouri
@james @normanl0 itās typically 10 days to ship, then another 3-4 to arrive here in the Midwest
@kitkat34 @normanl0 Oh yeah Iām in Missouri too!
So glad to see Noveto back on the site! This broke my buying moratorium. Always need to have some sangio! I also need to go back and read the reviews now that I bought.
I have been a customer since the 2003 vintage and have sampled it all back to 1991. This is the best Sangiovese in America.
I have nine bottles of Rosso left; three each from the first three bottlings of this NV wine. I donāt know how many there have been. All have been good. The earthiness of the black cherry Sangio and the rustic goodness of the Barbera make for a fine wine. Is it about 50-50? I forget. Itās always good and from the new label I see at least a 4th bottling. My brother in law told me last year or so that he liked the Rosso over the Originale. But then he drinks flavorless vodka over whiskey, so I question his palate.
The Originale (former Normale and still in need of a better moniker) is always amazing value. I marvel at how it is so good. Iāve been buying a lot of it since the 2003 vintage when I first stumbled onto it. I fell in love with the 2004 vintage which made me almost dislike the 2005, but then 10-12 years later I was amazed at how the 2005 grew into something even better. Now that they are released with an extra year of lying around, they are ready to drink on delivery. I used to wait until the holidays and some years after the New Year to drink these wines. They were not ready yet. Oh, they were drinkable, but there was a certain brooding that was disjointed to me that needed those few more months. There has never been a bad vintage, although an occasional less intense year happens once every 10 or 12 years. The flagship wine, something that still makes Noceto the best Sangiovese in America.
Riserva is the queen of the bottlings. Always complex. Occasionally the Originale approaches it but the Riserva has more depth, better balance, more intensity and an elegance you can always count on. Like a fine Brunello. You canāt go wrong. Whatever ever Rusty Folena the winemaker does to blend this up, I always marvel at how good it is.
And then itās Dos Oakies. They have a trio of single vineyard wines. Marmellata is jammy and Hillside is also regal, but Dos Oakies packs the best punch. My last of my 2004 trio of those wines were drunk up last year and all three were still dark, youthful and wonderful. They made the 20 years I had thought theyād last and my God, they had many more left in them. The Dos Oakies was the best. My wife, eldest granddaughter and I manufactured about 12 dozen Cannelloni for Christmas, half meat and half cheese, handmade pasta. We did the trio with them, half the pasta in red sauce and half in a creamy sauce. Our family raved about the pasta and the wines. Dos Oakies was everyoneās favorite. The acid cut through the tomato tartness and fattiness of the cream sauce. A nice prime rib or ribeye and a Dos Oakies makes for a nice meal, too.
This is another amazing offer. Iām adding to my cellar!
@SteveJones
Need some AX1 here
@SteveJones you just made me darn near drool. I havenāt had Canneloni since I was a kid at Buscaliaās!!! Thank you so much for such a wealth of info on these wines!
@rjquillin @SteveJones we have less than 5 cases of the 2017 left in the tasting room. If youāre interested, reply all to that last email and Iāll let you know what we can do!
@rjquillin my apologies, if interested, you can email us at info@noceto.com.
@rjquillin AX-1 and the Noce Knoll predecessor is their top offering!
@anamieke @rjquillin I have about 350-400 bottles of Noceto in the basement.
@SteveJones This release of Rosso is about 91% Sangiovese, 5% Sagrantino, 2% Alicante Bouschet, and 2% of a little of this and a little of that.
@anamieke @rjquillin Oops. Sorry. 400 total bottles. About half are Noceto.
So glad Noceto is back! Thanks Casemates!
These wines are always great and are always in my personal cellar. Their winemaker Rusty Folena started working with me at Santino when he was 15 years old. We worked together for 16 years at Santino and Renwood. He is now a well respected Amador winemaker. Youāll find our styles similar. Cheers, Scott Harvey
@ScottHarveyWine Thanks so much for weighing in, Scott!
Never had this. The notes look good. In for 6, mostly since I have no room.
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Apologies for the late rat, but just got back from an emergency/unscheduled work fiasco. Anyway on to the:
2020 Noceto Dos Oakies Sangiovese, Shenandoah Valley, California
Upon PnP, very fruity, light leather. Based on first sniff impressions, this is going to be VERY easy to drink.
First swirl and sip, the dark fruits come through, and it is more intense than I had imagined. Still very easy to drink. I then decanted for an hour. The fruitiness is prominent in a good way. A little earthiness/leather that rounds out the pallette. Overall a very nice, high quality wine. Went very well with the lamb bolognese we had. Just delicious. Highly recommend.
In for 2-half cases {copycat}
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The six bottles of Sangiovese arrived today. Interestingly enough, I received two Dos Oakies, but no Riservo. Iām not complaining because I do expect the Dos Oakies to be delicious, but as someone fairly New to the wonders of enjoying and collecting wines, I was excited to try the 4 different styles.
@user33071884 I wasnāt going to open the box for a while, but you made me look. My shipment was as promised.
Long term club member, and had a home in Amador City, so frequented the tasting room and drank/drink their wines a lot. Beautiful wines. Opened a 2020 āregularā on Wednesday after receiving my case, and just beautiful.
Incredibly clean. Scott Harvey trained and mentored winemaker Rusty Folena, and you will notice the similar no BS straight up non manipulated with old world style wine. Comparing the Dos Oakies to their other few āreserves,ā the Dos Oakies is my favorite. I think the āmistakeā is your benefit.
@Leatherchair Yes, Iām excited to try them! Thanks for your input. Iām certainly not complaining and I think you may be right. I was on the fence about ordering some until Scott Harvey spoke up, but after his comments I decided to grab half a case since Iāve loved the Scott Harvey wine case that I ordered.
Took delivery of a case today with no Dos Oakies but an extra Riserva instead. Had looked forward to the Dos Oakies based on the comments, but Iāll do my best to struggle through.
Two days in a row no one came to my door and I somehow missed delivery attempts
. My first bad experience with UPS
@CruelMelody Get ready to call them and yell at them for not actually trying to deliver. Iāve had that happen before and with enough kvetching they will agree to make another attempt.
@klezman I remembered you mentioning this, I tried but ultimately I realized a new UPS access point opened like a mile from my house. No more sitting around waiting for deliveries!
@klezman I just got notified the package was destroyed and returned to sender
@CruelMelody
At the top of the page there is a bottle icon and āwhatās this?ā
click on it and then on āsupportā to contact CS and advise them.
@rjquillin thank you! Haha I love the options for the type of issue being experienced.