This is a typical rich and intense Cinsault that explodes strawberry and spiced rhubarb pie in the glass. With the delicate weight of a Pinot and the wild berry fruit forward attitude of a Zinfandel, this wine will quickly become your ‘go to’ wine in your cellar for all occasions. Pairs with Peking duck, roasted chicken, lamb burgers, carnitas tacos, Thanksgiving dinner.
Winery: Onesta Wines
Owners: Jillian Johnson
Location: Lodi, CA
Owner Jillian Johnson found her passion for wine while studying neurobiology at UC Davis. Home brewing introduced her to the magic of fermentation, and after taking the “Introductory to Winemaking” class at UC Davis, she quickly switched her major to Viticulture and Enology. She graduated with her degree in 2001 and soon thereafter found herself as an intern at the famous Bonny Doon Winery.
Her desire to learn more about winemaking has taken her around the globe. To gain essential winemaking experience in a short time, Jillian traveled to the southern hemisphere to work an additional harvest each year. For three years she traveled south to learn how to work with different varieties and observe different winemaking styles. She did internships in McLaren Vale (South Australia), Margaret River (Western Australia), and Stellenbosch (South Africa).
Syrah quickly became her deepest passion and she returned to Bonny Doon as Associate Winemaker in 2005, focusing her talents on the Rhone varieties that the Dooner is known for. She played a major role in the transition to biodynamic winemaking at Bonny Doon. Now a truly seasoned winemaker, Jillian has started her own passion project, Onesta. Her artistic expression is manifested in her wines. Jillian’s wines speak the truth of each growing season and each vintage is a new adventure for her, riding the waves of Mother Nature. Her promise to herself and her customers is to deliver wines with personality and depth every year. Jillian’s wines are made with passion and love, just like she lives her life. Her hope is that every sip of Onesta will ignite the soul with passion and enthusiasm for living life to the fullest.
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Really nice cinsault. I’ve had a few here and there, most recently Buena Vista so I’m a little familiar.
They are unique though and you will try to think oh It’s like this… but different so I will do my best.
This one is medium bodied and color. Darker than a pinot and even some zins but doesn’t feel as heavy as you might think from looking at it.
Bright red fruit on the nose, cherry candy comes to mind, I also got some pretty floral notes. Tastes very fruity, cherry, ripe strawberry but not over the top and the alcohol is in check (14.5 really?). Very smooth with some light spice on the backend, low tannin, no oak and big acidity. Really great with food - this went perfectly with salmon. The finish was the only slightly dissapointing aspect being pretty short, but high acid low tannin wines are often like that. Overall this was very balanced and well made. If it wasn’t for all the fruit I would almost mistake this for an old world wine.
But this is exactly the kind of thing I drink the most, not too heavy and great with lighter foods. I usually have pinots, zins and sangiovese but I enjoy a good cabernet or petite sirah especially with bigger meals or by themselves. I would compare this to something more towards a scott harvey zin and less wellington. This is a good price, between $15-18 depending on quantity and your tax. I would pay $20-25 no problem.
@ilCesare Intersting notes indeed. I’m going to have to get my hands on a few of these and compare/contrast with other Cinsaults out there (of which there are not many at all!!!)
@klezman When you get around to it, try @tercerowines version. Tasty stuff. Not to detract from this offering of course. Can’t wait to see what @ilCesare has to say about this one.
4/16/2017 I think we drank this too quickly! On opening it was showing a lot of the impact of stem inclusion, which I enjoyed. But then it closed down a bit and took quite a while to come back around. Berries, leather, relatively light/medium body.
I’ve never tried this grape. Might as well, my roommate and I are going through wine lately (he lost his partner in December, and is now dealing with medical issues of his own. The fact we are able to function at work is kinda shocking, a fact which his boss gets, but mine doesn’t, but I’m so burnt out that I do not even care except the dayjob is the source of funds that enable my wine habit…)
@klezman Did someone call my name?!?!?! This one is bound to be quite different than mine - but still the same variety. The site for the Onesta Cinsault is pretty special - the Bechtold Vineyard in Lodi, arguably the oldest active vineyard in CA at about 130 years old. Special site indeed that does not yield much fruit I would imagine. My guess is that this one will be larger in structure than mine because the grapes are bound to be smaller in size; this will lead to a slightly bolder wine than mine, but I’m guessing still possessing that mesmerizing aromatic intensity of strawberry, pomegranate and spice. I would definitely give this a shot - and don’t think you’ll be disappointed at all!!!
@tercerowines Ha…next time I shall scroll down further before posting. I should know better than to think @klezman wouldn’t already be thinking about comparing the Cinsaults.
@javadrinker This is a variety that I’ve really fallen ‘head over heels’ for recently. It is lighter in structure than the other varieties that I work with, but as I said, not light in aromatic complexity or structure. Well worth a try - and it’ll be fun to compare and contrast this one with mine (I guess that means you better mine as well!!! )
@tercerowines pretty spot on about the Bechthold Vineyard, in fact it’s the oldest Cinsault vineyard in the world. The soil in the vineyard is very sandy and because of that it survived Phylloxera. The vineyard is also dry farmed, which along with its age also leads to smaller cluster sizes.
@onesta I was told that it was the oldest active vineyard in CA for any variety - no? And you probably make more Cinsault out of there than anyone - correct? Unless Michael-David does . . .
@tercerowines I can’t say for certain what vineyard is the oldest in CA, I think there may be some Zinfandel that has the Bechthold Vineyard by a couple of years. I am pretty certain that the next oldest Cinsault vineyards are in South Africa, around 80 years old and yes, Michael David makes more than we do.
@nostrom0 Phylloxera doesn’t survive in sandy soil and the Bechthold Vineyard is basically sand. That’s how it managed to avoid destruction and survive. Actually that soil is also the reason it can by dry farmed and is only irrigated 1x a year, just after harvest.
@rjquillin and that is kinda confusing how people got onto it, as when I inquired I understood that you ONLY get on this right now - as a filter - if you back the crowd funding campaign at the “party” level. They might open it up later on. But right now it would be exclusively for that group of ppl.
Yet there was no communication about it after becoming a backer. Some transparency would be good there on behalf of Casemates
btw. I was on WW too and - but with a different alias.
This was a varietal common in the annual Wolftrap (South Aftrica) blend. It was missing in the last several I had, but my adoration of the slammin’ QPR of that wine has me very intrigued.
Cinsault is actually one of the parents of South Africa’s most famous variety - Pinotage (it’s a cross between pinot noir and consult). This is a variety that is commonly used in blends in the Rhone Valley (and is considered a rhone variety) and is commonly used for roses in Provence because of the large sized berries. It tends to make a lighter style wine - but not ‘light’ in aromatic complexity or substance, just usually color (and that really doesn’t mean a thing, folks). Buy with confidence - and hopefully I can get together with Onesta one of these days and share our Cinsauts! (mine is labeled without an ‘l’ because that is the ‘official’ spelling in CA - silly but true . . .)
@tercerowines Pinotage??? Interesting! I’m actually trying to grow that here in Central VA. Struggling a bit (Mostly because I don’t know what I’m doing!). Anyway, great to know the varietals background…
@onesta I wish I did - but most of my time is spent south of me in Southern California, trying to sell my wines Should I make it close, I’ll let you know . . . and if you ever make it down near SBC, let me know please!
@MSUMike also curious. I’d go in on a case. Can meet near you or use Mediocre HQ2 (west-plano / northeast-carrollton). 3 bottles best for me if we can find some others to join.
@snapster This tickles me far more than it probably should. A man who not only backs Casemates but believes in the vision. Much cooler than running around yelling “I am Snapster…fetch me free wine!”.
@MSUMike@kapok6 looks like we just need a 4th and we’re a go. I can put it on my account or paypal someone else my share.
want to be clear to observers of these sharing threads that we (staff) know that funds flow and private contact info sharing are quite cumbersome right now. We’re working on built in solutions for the platform.
@LSeewoester oh, sorry I missed you while including @kapok6. So we have 4. Jolly good. I’m up for pressing the button if you want to allow that @MSUMike. You’re the case-originator but given I’m staff and can use the Mediocre HQ2, I’m up for the duties.
I’ll ask @dave and @shawn what they did for communications on their St. Louis case split. I’m guessing just use mediocre email and paypal or cash upon pickup.
@MSUMike Dang! Missed it. Oh well - next time. Might hit up the wife unit and ask permission - or maybe I should ask for forgiveness. Damn the torpedoes!
@LSeewoester@MSUMike@kapok6 Hey guys! sorry for delay. Wine arrived last week and I had family in town disrupting my schedule. Let me know if anytime this week looks good and I’ll have it ready to split. I can whisper payment details in advance or just as you can swing by to pick up.
since our address is already public, no need to whisper it:
4717 Plano Parkway, Suite 130
Carrollton, Texas 75010
@aacero@kr4
Sounds good guys! Perhaps we can do 4 bottles each. If anyone wants less (say only 3), I can take the extra. Please email me at ham at hlcp dot net
@kapok6 well between you, @msumike (me), @snapster, and @Lseewoester sounds like we have a 4 way split. Who is floating the damage and pressing the button?
@tklivory this wine is ready to drink now and over the next couple of years. In general, Cinsault is not meant to be cellared for a long time. We think this wine is great on its own as a sipper but is incredibly versatile and food friendly too… the girl & the fig in Sonoma goes through 3 cases a week because they love it with their entire menu. If you’re not familiar with Cinsault, picture a wine with the delicate weight of a Pinot Noir and the fruit forward attitude of a Zinfandel and you’ll be close.
@onesta
Most of the reason I don’t go for reds is because tannins are very unpleasant to me. The description saYs low tannins. Would this be a good one to try? DH only likes reds, so would be nice to find something we could drink together.
@mtb002 absolutely. You’ll find the body of this closer to a Pinot Noir and there aren’t tannins you’ll need to chew through. But, there’s definitely enough complexity for DH
1st Casemates purchase because A) I live in Indiana and B)) been dealing with health issues for dad and kept forgetting to check the site, he passed away last week. Today is the funeral and I figured I owe it to myself to remember to check and treat myself as this wine sounds interesting. Cheers to all!
@cbilyak Sorry for your loss. Never easy to lose anyone. May today be a day of happiness in remembering the wonderful life he lived and the people in it he changed. God Bless.
@cbilyak Thanks for chiming in at this difficult time!! Thoughts & prayers from NE OH. My wife just lost her aging parents a month apart to the day in Dec and Jan (94 & 93). Remember to keep family first, wine second!! Hopefully, the wine will get me to that age group!!
@jwill1981 BP here. Let’s see if we can get a couple other takers. I don’t necessarily need six bottles. Good know there is another Yinzer on here!
/giphy yinzer
@pseudogourmet98 It all the good things people where saying about the wine that made me feel that it was time to try my first wine through here. And it helps to have free shipping.
Central IL anyone? I’m sure we’re in for a case on the notes already- will hold off for the fun of the rattage though. AndI can’t believe I am completely unfamiliar with Cinsault! Obviously, we’re not getting out and expanding our vin-cabulary.
Gonna have to find a way to pair this up at a NC restaurant we’ve enjoyed called Cin Cin. Road trip!!!
I’m a very newbie wine drinker and I found I like (sorry guys) what I guess is a blush or what I would call a sweeter not very dry wine. What should I look for? I honestly want to expand my wine knowledge but it’s embarrassing to ask people in my circle. So I turn to my fellow Meh’ers
@candiedisilvio1 this would not be considered a blush. I would suggest buying a $30ish Pinot noir at your local liquor store as a base frame of reference for this wine. Not nearly exactly the same, but at least would give you an idea. Apologies to the winemaker if I’ve grossly oversimplified
@candiedisilvio1 for starters, don’t apologize for the wine you like as that’s the one you should drink
This somewhat in jest, but here’s a common wine drinking progression:
Steal booze from parents.
Drink whatever you can get people to buy you.
Boones Farm
Discover white zin (sweeter blush).
Begin exploring the rest of the wine world & still steal from your parents if they have a great cellar.
@nostrom0 made a great suggestion. To add to that , and not necessarily direct you towards pulling a trigger on the Cinsault, I’d suggest asking a local wine shop for some “serious” Rose wines. It’s probably a great way to expand on where you’re at. Cinsault is used in quite a few Rose wines too, including one we make
@candiedisilvio1 Unless the label on the red says “SWEET” it is going to be dry, dryer or really dry. Two whites you might try: Gewürztraminer (Bless you!) and Riesling. (ga-VERTZ-trah-mee-ner) (REES-ling) Both are easy to find and come in every price range. Stay at ten to fifteen dollars until you know how to go cheap or pricy. Riesling can cost in the hundreds. For Riesling at ten to fifteen dollar range try New York or Germany. Add west coast USA to New York and Germany for the Gewürztraminer. Both these wines come dry to very sweet. Most bottles of these will have a dry - sweet meter on the back label. You can work your way to dry and then take the red plunge. Keep asking. You’ll never learn a darned thing without.
@vaaccess Agree. And the Gewürz and Riesling would be good white starters as well.
I would be a bit hesitant about jumping straight into a PN, even at the (higher of the low end) $30 level.
That’s not an inexpensive bottle, especially if you don’t end up liking it.
If you are looking for a red, I’d think along the lines of a Barbara, Scott Harvey comes to mind, but won’t see wide distribution. That should be good solo and better with food.
A lighter zin, not some 15+% AbV bomb either. Again Scott and InZinerator come to mind.
If you have a decent wine shoppe around, visit them. They may have weekly tastings for a nominal fee where you can dip your wine toes into a number of bottles without the expense and possible disappointment. Perhaps tell the merchant what you’ve been drinking, and ask for some suggestions how to expand your knowledge.
There is a whole lot out there, and it’s a slippery slope. Let us know where you go and what you think.
@rjquillin all excellent thoughts. I’d add going to a place (grocery store or wine bar) where they have lots “on tap” and you can try tastes of lots of stuff.
@vaaccess@candiedisilvio1 Adding to this and Ron’s advice. If you have a Total Wine store in your area, they offer monthly tastings that are usually themed. Cost is usually $20, but if you sign up for email offers they always have a 50% off coupon for classes so 10 bucks. Recent ones locally:
New wines from the Old World
Wines from Spain and Portugal
Bubbles!
I don’t buy a ton of wine from them, but the classes are fun, it gives you the opportunity to try a bunch of wines, meet some interesting people, and learn about wines, terrior, how to taste, etc. Plus you get a coupon for $10 off a $50 purchase, supposedly for wine only, but I usually pick up some of my new favorite gin, Greenhouse, and they let that slide so it’s a good deal.
Then you’ll have a better idea of what you like and can purchase here on Casemates, because what you’ll get here will be much better value than what you get from Total Wine.
@candiedisilvio1 WineFolly had a fun article a couple months ago: The Evolution of Your Wine Palate. When I read through it I thought “Yep, I think that’s the stage I’m at (Fruit Forward progressing to Bold), and sure enough these are the wines I like!” I found that it helped me articulate what I like / don’t like, as well as give me ideas on what to look for next.
@candiedisilvio1 I think the first thing you need to determine is why you like the wines that you do. How do you drink your coffee? If you NEED cream or milk or almond milk, etc, you may be bitter averse . . . and if so, you probably will not enjoy acidic or tannic wines. If that is the case, you’ll prefer SMOOTH wines - and I would suggest going to a wine bar or wine shop that has tastings and trying out a couple to see what you actually ENJOY - not what others say you should
@candiedisilvio1 I really want to thank everyone who took the time and responded to my question. I feel smarter already. I know now that I like smooth wines that are less tannic and acidic. I’m going to be checking out local wine dealers in my area for some classes and I missed a HUGE opportunity stealing from my parents wine cellar when I was younger. Oh and Boone’s Farm was a huge part of my miss guided youth
@rainybank Thanks. tomaso@prodigy.net Email how to reach you and you are welcome to however many bottles you’d like. I’m close at Walnut Hill Midway. Happy to share more later too. Hopefully we can put together a group of 4 regulars and just split up cases.
@Tomasop I shouldn’t phrase it like this… but feel free to tag me on anything you go in on. I’m always open to at least trying 1 or 2 bottles. Added you to my DFW list and will tag you in the gatherings thread.
@Tomasop I’d be interested in splits anytime. I’m Lakewood area so between Central and White Rock. My wife works your direction-ish near Galleria.
Feel free to tag me anytime.
@texas_swift Great! That makes three. You are welcome to share in this case of Cinsault that I have coming. See my email above and connect with me that way so we can trade phone numbers privately. Thanks!
@hey_zeus Howdy neighbor! Yes, you are close. We may have enough on the Cinsault case now, but please email me your contact info for future case splits. I’ll keep you in the group for as we buy cases. Great to share. Read above and email me and send cell number for texting. I’ll compile our group list and send it out to all of us to communicate for future splits.
@MSUMike Hey mike, email me so I can add you to my Dallas group and take it off the public forum to private communications. Send your cell number for texting also if you are ok with that. About to send out a call on the Pinot. Paul Tomaso@prodigy.net
I came across a write up about the Bechthold Vineyard and its Cinsault vines. The backstory really adds to the allure of this unique grape. I’ve been trying to hold out before my first purchase, but I may have to go for this one!
@JnKL
I’d take 3-4 bottles if you ever get east to DsM/Altoona area. I’m pulled to NW IA a lot right now for family, so can’t really commit to eastward travel on my end at this time. I’ll just order a 3 pack if you are unable, no pressure/worries.
Really nice cinsault. I’ve had a few here and there, most recently Buena Vista so I’m a little familiar.
They are unique though and you will try to think oh It’s like this… but different so I will do my best.
This one is medium bodied and color. Darker than a pinot and even some zins but doesn’t feel as heavy as you might think from looking at it.
Bright red fruit on the nose, cherry candy comes to mind, I also got some pretty floral notes. Tastes very fruity, cherry, ripe strawberry but not over the top and the alcohol is in check (14.5 really?). Very smooth with some light spice on the backend, low tannin, no oak and big acidity. Really great with food - this went perfectly with salmon. The finish was the only slightly dissapointing aspect being pretty short, but high acid low tannin wines are often like that. Overall this was very balanced and well made. If it wasn’t for all the fruit I would almost mistake this for an old world wine.
But this is exactly the kind of thing I drink the most, not too heavy and great with lighter foods. I usually have pinots, zins and sangiovese but I enjoy a good cabernet or petite sirah especially with bigger meals or by themselves. I would compare this to something more towards a scott harvey zin and less wellington. This is a good price, between $15-18 depending on quantity and your tax. I would pay $20-25 no problem.
Day 2: The wine held up nicely. Flavors are a little muted but still a bit fruity, bright and clean, it hasn’t fallen apart. Huge acid (almost too much, but I love it). Thinking about it more I would put this up against a Noceto sangiovese any day. Good stuff.
You had me at Cinsault! I just discovered this grape as a stand-alone last summer and a new obsession was born. It’s hard to find. Thanks for a great offering!!
In for a case. Seattle peeps - let me know if you’d like a few bottles otherwise I’ll hoard them all for myself… With tax a free shipping it comes out to $14.65/bottle…
/giphy cynical-royal-rooster
I’ve only ever tasted the late harvest Cinsaut we have here at Putah Creek, so I suppose I had best educate myself with a bottle or three. Sweet isn’t usually my thing but the layers of flavor in there show a lot of promise for the grape as a whole.
@SonOfAVondruke Had no idea someone was doing a ‘late harvest’ one - seems nearly impossible with how big the clusters are and how much fruit these vines normally set . . .
@tercerowines I couldn’t tell you the details on the viticultural or enological front, but it tastes like the holidays and isn’t so cloyingly sweet as to turn off a lot of people who normally don’t do sweet wine. If you’re interested, maybe we can arrange a swap next time I head south.
@mrn1 I’d go in for 6 btls. I agree with your comments. I never had this varietal, but I love Pinots and Zin. I live in Brunswick and I’m retired. Do you live in Brecksville? If so, that would be an easy exchange. Let me know soon!
@pjmartin Great! When it lands let me know and we can arrange $ for vino swap! Send me a PM thru Woot (mrn1 there too) with your contact info, and I’ll give you email, cell, etc.
1st case shipping to Cattaraugus County NY, found someone in my office to split with. Would split 3 or 4 ways if there’s anyone in the area that’s interested.
PSA: Should have mentioned this earlier but for those of you that don’t look at, and toss the papers that come in your box… don’t Something special for you there.
I am a bit confused by some of the comments of esteemed @snapster - I thought that splitting cases is just something we can do on our own behalf - now do I read that right that mediocre is working on a way to automate that? to what extent? address disclosures? matchmaking? payment processing? … or or or am I reading too much into it…?
@datruandi the scope of intent is broad, but it will take a while to do things right. For starters, we’re working on account targeted messaging format (to replace what Woot forums call PMs). The other acknowledged feature is payment splitting. Both are “in the months to come” etas. We have to go slow enough that we don’t build up any esteem.
the scope of intent is broad, but it will take a while to do things
right.
I’m quite surprised by how many folks are already taking the bull by the cork. I haven’t been counting (I assume a meh minion is counting) but it seems that there is far more group buying activity than on that old site.
@Lighter we are definitely excited to confirm how organic it is with just the pricing motivation in play. We’re hoping it is also “fun” to meet up with folks. I’ll let you know my direct opinion there after I complete a buying group!
@outofhand Ok! If there’s a convenient place to meet, you can let me know once it arrives. I work downtown and live in south/west county area so I can go anywhere pretty much.
@propvin hey I’m the guy from the Albany thread. I picked up 3 of them. If you didn’t manage to get in on it, maybe we can arrange a trade somewhere down the line! I think for future reference if you post in that thread and push it to the top, I’ll have a better chance of seeing it and we can work something out. (though this time I had jumped on it myself pretty quick)
Just arrived. First time trying this grape so I only went with the 3-pack, but I’m regretting it now. I’m really enjoying it! A lot of strawberry and black cherry with hints of leather on the nose. Slightly quick but fresh/clean finish. Was expecting a thin body, so the medium texture was a nice surprise.
Got to love Casemates! New delicious wine with an exceptional community.
@fredpgh good to hear. I got a case since the price was right and I have never heard of this grape. I am excited to try it out and share with family and friends.
Pulled the cork tonight with dinner. Crispy duck, bok choy (sesame garlic), and brown jasmine rice.
Cork bottom was really red, and maybe dried out a little it split into the bottle very easy.
As mentioned above I’m pleasantly surprised by the body. Slightly darker in color the. A pinot noir not near a cab.
Right out of the bottle I get black cherry peak of season.
Low tannin, low alcohol, sweet on the nose and tongue.
Very surprised and a daily drinker. I might regret not buying more than 3 bottles. Would love to see this one aged in a year.
We opened this tonight. Very drinkable, can see this being a random weeknight wine. Mostly got plum, not too much on the berry side. Low acid, not quite flat but maybe not balanced as well as well’d prefer. Soft tannins.
Seems to be a trend. Really enjoyed the bottle I opened the other day and wish I had gone for 12! If this ever reappears I won’t make the mistake twice.
Same as the others. Bought 3, wish I’d sprung for the case. Might hit up the winery for a few extra bottles, but I’m on the lookout if it reappears! Great deal.
So great hearing all the positive responses!!! In case you missed it on the insert in your package, or it wasn’t there, here’s a coupon code for all of you for 20% off at the website: casemates
Tasting Notes
This is a typical rich and intense Cinsault that explodes strawberry and spiced rhubarb pie in the glass. With the delicate weight of a Pinot and the wild berry fruit forward attitude of a Zinfandel, this wine will quickly become your ‘go to’ wine in your cellar for all occasions. Pairs with Peking duck, roasted chicken, lamb burgers, carnitas tacos, Thanksgiving dinner.
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$406.84/case at Onesta Wines (including shipping)
About The Winery
Winery: Onesta Wines
Owners: Jillian Johnson
Location: Lodi, CA
Owner Jillian Johnson found her passion for wine while studying neurobiology at UC Davis. Home brewing introduced her to the magic of fermentation, and after taking the “Introductory to Winemaking” class at UC Davis, she quickly switched her major to Viticulture and Enology. She graduated with her degree in 2001 and soon thereafter found herself as an intern at the famous Bonny Doon Winery.
Her desire to learn more about winemaking has taken her around the globe. To gain essential winemaking experience in a short time, Jillian traveled to the southern hemisphere to work an additional harvest each year. For three years she traveled south to learn how to work with different varieties and observe different winemaking styles. She did internships in McLaren Vale (South Australia), Margaret River (Western Australia), and Stellenbosch (South Africa).
Syrah quickly became her deepest passion and she returned to Bonny Doon as Associate Winemaker in 2005, focusing her talents on the Rhone varieties that the Dooner is known for. She played a major role in the transition to biodynamic winemaking at Bonny Doon. Now a truly seasoned winemaker, Jillian has started her own passion project, Onesta. Her artistic expression is manifested in her wines. Jillian’s wines speak the truth of each growing season and each vintage is a new adventure for her, riding the waves of Mother Nature. Her promise to herself and her customers is to deliver wines with personality and depth every year. Jillian’s wines are made with passion and love, just like she lives her life. Her hope is that every sip of Onesta will ignite the soul with passion and enthusiasm for living life to the fullest.
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Onesta Wines Cinsault
3 bottles for $49.99 $16.66/bottle + $2.67/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $164.99 $13.75/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2012 Onesta Cinsault Bechthold Vineyard New CT
2012 Onesta Cinsault Bechthold Vineyard Old CT
I have a bottle of this, will post notes here when I taste it Monday evening.
@ilCesare Like the Rat.
@ilCesare Just take one for the team and open it already!!!
@ilCesare But you cant edit comments anymore.
@ilCesare still waiting unless I missed your review
Really nice cinsault. I’ve had a few here and there, most recently Buena Vista so I’m a little familiar.
They are unique though and you will try to think oh It’s like this… but different so I will do my best.
This one is medium bodied and color. Darker than a pinot and even some zins but doesn’t feel as heavy as you might think from looking at it.
Bright red fruit on the nose, cherry candy comes to mind, I also got some pretty floral notes. Tastes very fruity, cherry, ripe strawberry but not over the top and the alcohol is in check (14.5 really?). Very smooth with some light spice on the backend, low tannin, no oak and big acidity. Really great with food - this went perfectly with salmon. The finish was the only slightly dissapointing aspect being pretty short, but high acid low tannin wines are often like that. Overall this was very balanced and well made. If it wasn’t for all the fruit I would almost mistake this for an old world wine.
But this is exactly the kind of thing I drink the most, not too heavy and great with lighter foods. I usually have pinots, zins and sangiovese but I enjoy a good cabernet or petite sirah especially with bigger meals or by themselves. I would compare this to something more towards a scott harvey zin and less wellington. This is a good price, between $15-18 depending on quantity and your tax. I would pay $20-25 no problem.
@ilCesare Intersting notes indeed. I’m going to have to get my hands on a few of these and compare/contrast with other Cinsaults out there (of which there are not many at all!!!)
Cinsault?! Eagerly awaiting the rat reports…
@klezman I concur. I’m intrigued for sure…
@klezman When you get around to it, try @tercerowines version. Tasty stuff. Not to detract from this offering of course. Can’t wait to see what @ilCesare has to say about this one.
@javadrinker I have two more remaining!
4/16/2017 I think we drank this too quickly! On opening it was showing a lot of the impact of stem inclusion, which I enjoyed. But then it closed down a bit and took quite a while to come back around. Berries, leather, relatively light/medium body.
I’ve never tried this grape. Might as well, my roommate and I are going through wine lately (he lost his partner in December, and is now dealing with medical issues of his own. The fact we are able to function at work is kinda shocking, a fact which his boss gets, but mine doesn’t, but I’m so burnt out that I do not even care except the dayjob is the source of funds that enable my wine habit…)
/giphy frankly-clumsy-pan
I’d also love a comparison, if any exists, between this wine and the one @tercerowines makes. He must have gotten a couple of those 144 acres
@klezman Did someone call my name?!?!?! This one is bound to be quite different than mine - but still the same variety. The site for the Onesta Cinsault is pretty special - the Bechtold Vineyard in Lodi, arguably the oldest active vineyard in CA at about 130 years old. Special site indeed that does not yield much fruit I would imagine. My guess is that this one will be larger in structure than mine because the grapes are bound to be smaller in size; this will lead to a slightly bolder wine than mine, but I’m guessing still possessing that mesmerizing aromatic intensity of strawberry, pomegranate and spice. I would definitely give this a shot - and don’t think you’ll be disappointed at all!!!
@tercerowines Ha…next time I shall scroll down further before posting. I should know better than to think @klezman wouldn’t already be thinking about comparing the Cinsaults.
@javadrinker This is a variety that I’ve really fallen ‘head over heels’ for recently. It is lighter in structure than the other varieties that I work with, but as I said, not light in aromatic complexity or structure. Well worth a try - and it’ll be fun to compare and contrast this one with mine (I guess that means you better mine as well!!!
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@tercerowines pretty spot on about the Bechthold Vineyard, in fact it’s the oldest Cinsault vineyard in the world. The soil in the vineyard is very sandy and because of that it survived Phylloxera. The vineyard is also dry farmed, which along with its age also leads to smaller cluster sizes.
@onesta I was told that it was the oldest active vineyard in CA for any variety - no? And you probably make more Cinsault out of there than anyone - correct? Unless Michael-David does . . .
@tercerowines I can’t say for certain what vineyard is the oldest in CA, I think there may be some Zinfandel that has the Bechthold Vineyard by a couple of years. I am pretty certain that the next oldest Cinsault vineyards are in South Africa, around 80 years old and yes, Michael David makes more than we do.
@onesta Did you see that HdR is having a seminar solely on Cinsault from South Africa? A niche market perhaps - but viva Cinsault!!!
@onesta was just wondering how the root stock survived the velociraptor outbreak. Thanks!
@nostrom0 Phylloxera doesn’t survive in sandy soil and the Bechthold Vineyard is basically sand. That’s how it managed to avoid destruction and survive. Actually that soil is also the reason it can by dry farmed and is only irrigated 1x a year, just after harvest.
@onesta Very cool indeed - gotta love sand
@tercerowines For those wondering, as I was…
Hospice du Rhône® looks to be an upcoming event in Paso.
@rjquillin It is - as is the upcoming Paso Robles Rhone Rangers event coming up on Sunday, Feb 19th at Broken Earth Winery (I’ll be pouring at it!!!)
I’ve had the 2013, and liked it a lot (notes in CT). On the lighter side, but tasty. Paid $5 more and felt it was worth it.
@merrybill Where’d you get a hold of that one?
For those who want: link to those notes
Now … I wish I could rat it out … when will the Taster’s Panel start?
@datruandi It kinda has already. That’s why you’re seeing these reports.
Unless there is something more to come we didn’t have on ww.
@rjquillin and that is kinda confusing how people got onto it, as when I inquired I understood that you ONLY get on this right now - as a filter - if you back the crowd funding campaign at the “party” level. They might open it up later on. But right now it would be exclusively for that group of ppl.
Yet there was no communication about it after becoming a backer. Some transparency would be good there on behalf of Casemates
btw. I was on WW too and - but with a different alias.
It would be a Cin to miss out on this deal!
This was a varietal common in the annual Wolftrap (South Aftrica) blend. It was missing in the last several I had, but my adoration of the slammin’ QPR of that wine has me very intrigued.
@corrado Oh yes, Wolftrap. We went through cases of that about 10-12 years ago. Crazy good at sub $10 price (might have been <$9).
Cinsault is actually one of the parents of South Africa’s most famous variety - Pinotage (it’s a cross between pinot noir and consult). This is a variety that is commonly used in blends in the Rhone Valley (and is considered a rhone variety) and is commonly used for roses in Provence because of the large sized berries. It tends to make a lighter style wine - but not ‘light’ in aromatic complexity or substance, just usually color (and that really doesn’t mean a thing, folks). Buy with confidence - and hopefully I can get together with Onesta one of these days and share our Cinsauts! (mine is labeled without an ‘l’ because that is the ‘official’ spelling in CA - silly but true . . .)
@tercerowines Pinotage??? Interesting! I’m actually trying to grow that here in Central VA. Struggling a bit (Mostly because I don’t know what I’m doing!). Anyway, great to know the varietals background…
@tercerowines do you ever make it up to Napa? Would love to share some Cin with you.
@onesta I wish I did - but most of my time is spent south of me in Southern California, trying to sell my wines
Should I make it close, I’ll let you know . . . and if you ever make it down near SBC, let me know please!
@tercerowines will do!
I’m down to try something new! in for 3
/giphy vapid-glowing-copy
DFW peeps? Always interested in trying a new grape.
@MSUMike also curious. I’d go in on a case. Can meet near you or use Mediocre HQ2 (west-plano / northeast-carrollton). 3 bottles best for me if we can find some others to join.
@snapster @MSUMike @kapok6 I’d be in for a split - up to 3 for me as well!
@snapster I’m interested in only 3 bottles likely for myself. All these new awesome sounding wines. do have to limit the damage somewhere.
@snapster This tickles me far more than it probably should. A man who not only backs Casemates but believes in the vision. Much cooler than running around yelling “I am Snapster…fetch me free wine!”.
@MSUMike @kapok6 looks like we just need a 4th and we’re a go. I can put it on my account or paypal someone else my share.
@LSeewoester oh, sorry I missed you while including @kapok6. So we have 4. Jolly good. I’m up for pressing the button if you want to allow that @MSUMike. You’re the case-originator but given I’m staff and can use the Mediocre HQ2, I’m up for the duties.
@snapster PRESS THE BUTTON! DO IT!!!. I can paypal you now or whatever you prefer.
@MSUMike @LSeewoester @kapok6 we are done. Order reverent-soft-berserker
After tax looks like 43.85 each.
I’ll ask @dave and @shawn what they did for communications on their St. Louis case split. I’m guessing just use mediocre email and paypal or cash upon pickup.
Yes, this is my first casemating but venmo or cash on pickup sounds good to me!
@snapster I can paypal you the moolah. I’m still trying to figure out this whole format. Is there a way for you to PM my your e-mail address for PP?
@MSUMike Dang! Missed it. Oh well - next time. Might hit up the wife unit and ask permission - or maybe I should ask for forgiveness. Damn the torpedoes!
@kapok6 we’re working on the systems here so pretty limited on ways to exchange data. I think since I’m at Mediocre’s HQ I’ll just post the address and then when we meet up we can exchange the info.
@LSeewoester @MSUMike
here’s the direct link to our little sub-thread here in case anyone wants to bookmark it. https://casemates.com/forum/topics/onesta-wines-cinsault#5a6ed2a19af1980dc0abc33a
once I see movement on tracking and have an ETA I’ll post it so we can gather up!
@snapster sounds good. Thanks.
@snapster Awesome, thanks for heading all of this up for us!
@hey_zeus get in touch with @Tomasop He is looking to split his case looks like in Dallas.
@MSUMike thanks! @tomasop I’m in if you are in the Dallas area. Let me know.
@hey_zeus He is in dallas. drop him an email (listed below) if yall cant link up on here.
@MSUMike Whatever happened with this? I thought I was in for 3, did I miss out? Thx
@LSeewoester Not sure, @snapster ordered the case.
@LSeewoester @MSUMike @kapok6 Hey guys! sorry for delay. Wine arrived last week and I had family in town disrupting my schedule. Let me know if anytime this week looks good and I’ll have it ready to split. I can whisper payment details in advance or just as you can swing by to pick up.
since our address is already public, no need to whisper it:
4717 Plano Parkway, Suite 130
Carrollton, Texas 75010
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NYC Midtown East: let me know if anyone wants to split. In for a case.
@hammi99 UWSider here – happy to split with you. I’d prefer 3 bottles, but can deal with 6 if necessary.
@aacero I’d be happy to go for 3 or 6. Whatever works best. Nearby in UES.
@aacero @kr4
Sounds good guys! Perhaps we can do 4 bottles each. If anyone wants less (say only 3), I can take the extra. Please email me at ham at hlcp dot net
@hammi99 4 bottles each works for me.
@hammi99 If there are any bottles left, would be interested in at least 1 and up 4
Would love a split MI (SE) peoples…!
Why not!
/giphy gritty-pickled-marble
Please, stop with the giphy’s.
It’s too early to hurl this morning.
@rjq +1
@rjq That one is especially intense!
@rjq
Drop some acid you will be fine
@ScottW58 the colors duke the colors
In for a few bottles if people in DFW want to split a case.
@kapok6 well between you, @msumike (me), @snapster, and @Lseewoester sounds like we have a 4 way split. Who is floating the damage and pressing the button?
Sounds interesting, I’m in for 3.
@GatorFL Are you by chance in Gainesville? Looking for locals for case splits.
@pseudogourmet98 Sorry I am in the West Palm Beach area. If anybody in the area wants to split cases let me know.
Hi Casemates, Grady from Onesta Wines here. Excited to be featured today and if you have any questions I’m here.
@onesta What’s the drinking window for this wine? Can it be enjoyed on its own, or is it a better-with-food vintage?
@tklivory this wine is ready to drink now and over the next couple of years. In general, Cinsault is not meant to be cellared for a long time. We think this wine is great on its own as a sipper but is incredibly versatile and food friendly too… the girl & the fig in Sonoma goes through 3 cases a week because they love it with their entire menu. If you’re not familiar with Cinsault, picture a wine with the delicate weight of a Pinot Noir and the fruit forward attitude of a Zinfandel and you’ll be close.
@onesta Girl & the Fig: yum!
@onesta
If that’s not a huge endorsement, I don’t know what is!
@onesta
Most of the reason I don’t go for reds is because tannins are very unpleasant to me. The description saYs low tannins. Would this be a good one to try? DH only likes reds, so would be nice to find something we could drink together.
@mtb002 absolutely. You’ll find the body of this closer to a Pinot Noir and there aren’t tannins you’ll need to chew through. But, there’s definitely enough complexity for DH
1st Casemates purchase because A) I live in Indiana and B)) been dealing with health issues for dad and kept forgetting to check the site, he passed away last week. Today is the funeral and I figured I owe it to myself to remember to check and treat myself as this wine sounds interesting. Cheers to all!
sorry for your loss and a far secondary thanks for your support.
@cbilyak Sorry for your loss. Never easy to lose anyone. May today be a day of happiness in remembering the wonderful life he lived and the people in it he changed. God Bless.
@cbilyak Thanks for chiming in at this difficult time!! Thoughts & prayers from NE OH. My wife just lost her aging parents a month apart to the day in Dec and Jan (94 & 93). Remember to keep family first, wine second!! Hopefully, the wine will get me to that age group!!
@cbilyak also, sorry for your loss. I am also in Indiana (work in Indy, live in crawfordsville) if you are nearby and interested in splitting.
@cbilyak sorry for your loss. celebrate life.
I really like this offer. I just spent a bit on berserker day otherwise Id try and make a socal split happen.
@CorTot jajajaja
Don’t go looking at me either!
Unless it’s a single.
@CorTot @rjquillin same here
@CorTot, @klezman, @rjquillin, @merbill, @javadrinker , so if I get a case, how many of you SoCal’ers are in?
@MarkDaSpark I’ll take 2 bottles.
@CorTot two, three if absolutely necessary.
@MarkDaSpark I could do 1 or 2, I think.
@MarkDaSpark Well, that’s up to 7 spoken for.
Oh, it’s too late now isn’t it.
@rjquillin,
Sorry, still on Hawaiian time.
@MarkDaSpark Yeah. Difficult to adjust to the day/time (hour earlier) thing as well.
Too many monies.
Any interest from 3 others in Southwestern PA to split?
@jimmyd103 Sewickley here. I’d be down to to split
@jwill1981 BP here. Let’s see if we can get a couple other takers. I don’t necessarily need six bottles. Good know there is another Yinzer on here!
/giphy yinzer
Well I started reading this threat and by the time I got to the bottom I new I needed to order. 3 bottles on the way here.
@spudartman Nobody is holding a gun to your head, but glad to hear you decided to go in on the offer anyway.
@pseudogourmet98 It all the good things people where saying about the wine that made me feel that it was time to try my first wine through here. And it helps to have free shipping.
@spudartman My comment was tongue-in-cheek, as your post referred to reading the “threat”, instead of the “thread”.
@pseudogourmet98 I tend to not check my spelling or notice half the time something is spelled wrong.
Anyone in LA interested in sharing? @yugrudfooz ? I’m traveling in February so won’t be home for the delivery but can pick up in early March.
@reesai You sure you want me to hold on to this for a month? Send me an email yugrudfoo@hotmail.com. We can exchange #
Central IL anyone? I’m sure we’re in for a case on the notes already- will hold off for the fun of the rattage though. AndI can’t believe I am completely unfamiliar with Cinsault! Obviously, we’re not getting out and expanding our vin-cabulary.
Gonna have to find a way to pair this up at a NC restaurant we’ve enjoyed called Cin Cin. Road trip!!!
/giphy obsolete-hungry-afternoon
I’m a very newbie wine drinker and I found I like (sorry guys) what I guess is a blush or what I would call a sweeter not very dry wine. What should I look for? I honestly want to expand my wine knowledge but it’s embarrassing to ask people in my circle. So I turn to my fellow Meh’ers
@candiedisilvio1 this would not be considered a blush. I would suggest buying a $30ish Pinot noir at your local liquor store as a base frame of reference for this wine. Not nearly exactly the same, but at least would give you an idea. Apologies to the winemaker if I’ve grossly oversimplified
@candiedisilvio1 for starters, don’t apologize for the wine you like as that’s the one you should drink
This somewhat in jest, but here’s a common wine drinking progression:
@nostrom0 made a great suggestion. To add to that , and not necessarily direct you towards pulling a trigger on the Cinsault, I’d suggest asking a local wine shop for some “serious” Rose wines. It’s probably a great way to expand on where you’re at. Cinsault is used in quite a few Rose wines too, including one we make
@candiedisilvio1 Unless the label on the red says “SWEET” it is going to be dry, dryer or really dry. Two whites you might try: Gewürztraminer (Bless you!) and Riesling. (ga-VERTZ-trah-mee-ner) (REES-ling) Both are easy to find and come in every price range. Stay at ten to fifteen dollars until you know how to go cheap or pricy. Riesling can cost in the hundreds. For Riesling at ten to fifteen dollar range try New York or Germany. Add west coast USA to New York and Germany for the Gewürztraminer. Both these wines come dry to very sweet. Most bottles of these will have a dry - sweet meter on the back label. You can work your way to dry and then take the red plunge. Keep asking. You’ll never learn a darned thing without.
Great advice, @onesta
@vaaccess Agree. And the Gewürz and Riesling would be good white starters as well.
I would be a bit hesitant about jumping straight into a PN, even at the (higher of the low end) $30 level.
That’s not an inexpensive bottle, especially if you don’t end up liking it.
If you are looking for a red, I’d think along the lines of a Barbara, Scott Harvey comes to mind, but won’t see wide distribution. That should be good solo and better with food.
A lighter zin, not some 15+% AbV bomb either. Again Scott and InZinerator come to mind.
If you have a decent wine shoppe around, visit them. They may have weekly tastings for a nominal fee where you can dip your wine toes into a number of bottles without the expense and possible disappointment. Perhaps tell the merchant what you’ve been drinking, and ask for some suggestions how to expand your knowledge.
There is a whole lot out there, and it’s a slippery slope. Let us know where you go and what you think.
@Lighter what in the heck is a dry sweet meter? A little over 36" I guess??
@kaolis They’re in Aisle 4, next to the henweighs, where else?
I think the OP meant a scale, rather than a meter. But I’m guessing you already knew that!
@rjquillin all excellent thoughts. I’d add going to a place (grocery store or wine bar) where they have lots “on tap” and you can try tastes of lots of stuff.
And if the wine shop says they don’t carry Barbara, ask them if they by chance have any Barbera.
@vaaccess @candiedisilvio1 Adding to this and Ron’s advice. If you have a Total Wine store in your area, they offer monthly tastings that are usually themed. Cost is usually $20, but if you sign up for email offers they always have a 50% off coupon for classes so 10 bucks. Recent ones locally:
I don’t buy a ton of wine from them, but the classes are fun, it gives you the opportunity to try a bunch of wines, meet some interesting people, and learn about wines, terrior, how to taste, etc. Plus you get a coupon for $10 off a $50 purchase, supposedly for wine only, but I usually pick up some of my new favorite gin, Greenhouse, and they let that slide so it’s a good deal.
Then you’ll have a better idea of what you like and can purchase here on Casemates, because what you’ll get here will be much better value than what you get from Total Wine.
My two cents. YMMV
@InFrom good one, thanks.
the 5 minute thing got me.
@rjquillin One little typo, and I’ve got a Beach Boys earworm.
@candiedisilvio1 WineFolly had a fun article a couple months ago: The Evolution of Your Wine Palate. When I read through it I thought “Yep, I think that’s the stage I’m at (Fruit Forward progressing to Bold), and sure enough these are the wines I like!” I found that it helped me articulate what I like / don’t like, as well as give me ideas on what to look for next.
@InFrom Good Vibrations or Barbara Ann?
Could be a whole lot worse.
@candiedisilvio1 I think the first thing you need to determine is why you like the wines that you do. How do you drink your coffee? If you NEED cream or milk or almond milk, etc, you may be bitter averse . . . and if so, you probably will not enjoy acidic or tannic wines. If that is the case, you’ll prefer SMOOTH wines - and I would suggest going to a wine bar or wine shop that has tastings and trying out a couple to see what you actually ENJOY - not what others say you should
@rjquillin The latter. Not taking the bait, lest I be rickrolled.
@InFrom But is will dispell the BB.
You know you want to.
@onesta LOL - brings back memories. I was a big fan of TJ Swans Easy Nights wine with the grey label when I was in high school…
@InFrom Hannah?
@LambruscoKid love this wine palate evolution, rang very true to me, moving from bold to fine myself.
@nostrom0 thank you for over simplifying that’s exactly what I need at this point
@candiedisilvio1 I really want to thank everyone who took the time and responded to my question. I feel smarter already. I know now that I like smooth wines that are less tannic and acidic. I’m going to be checking out local wine dealers in my area for some classes and I missed a HUGE opportunity stealing from my parents wine cellar when I was younger. Oh and Boone’s Farm was a huge part of my miss guided youth
DFW folks, well preferably the D side. I have a case coming. Any of you want to share some of these? Looking for future partners too.
@Tomasop I’m on the D side! Near 635/75 area. Definitely interested in buying some.
@rainybank Thanks. tomaso@prodigy.net Email how to reach you and you are welcome to however many bottles you’d like. I’m close at Walnut Hill Midway. Happy to share more later too. Hopefully we can put together a group of 4 regulars and just split up cases.
@Tomasop I shouldn’t phrase it like this… but feel free to tag me on anything you go in on. I’m always open to at least trying 1 or 2 bottles. Added you to my DFW list and will tag you in the gatherings thread.
@Tomasop I’d be interested in splits anytime. I’m Lakewood area so between Central and White Rock. My wife works your direction-ish near Galleria.
Feel free to tag me anytime.
@texas_swift Great! That makes three. You are welcome to share in this case of Cinsault that I have coming. See my email above and connect with me that way so we can trade phone numbers privately. Thanks!
@Tomasop I’d also be interested in splits. Marsh & Royal - so very close to you. Count me in whenever you want to do a split and thanks!
@hey_zeus Howdy neighbor! Yes, you are close. We may have enough on the Cinsault case now, but please email me your contact info for future case splits. I’ll keep you in the group for as we buy cases. Great to share. Read above and email me and send cell number for texting. I’ll compile our group list and send it out to all of us to communicate for future splits.
@Tomasop Done! No prob on the Cinsault case. You should have or should be getting my contact info soon. Thanks again!
@MSUMike Hey mike, email me so I can add you to my Dallas group and take it off the public forum to private communications. Send your cell number for texting also if you are ok with that. About to send out a call on the Pinot. Paul
Tomaso@prodigy.net
I came across a write up about the Bechthold Vineyard and its Cinsault vines. The backstory really adds to the allure of this unique grape. I’ve been trying to hold out before my first purchase, but I may have to go for this one!
@LambruscoKid That’s actually a really cool article. Thanks for sharing!
@LambruscoKid Great link!
@LambruscoKid It’s a very special vineyard - folks like Turley make Cinsault out of this vineyard as well . . .
Alright…I just lit up the state of Virginia!
Sorry everyone, one less bottle for you
Just pulled some spatchcocked chickens off the pellet grill.
@onesta That looks tasty. Cinsault in the chicken recipe or just with the chicken?
@pseudogourmet98 Just with the chicken, this time.
In for three
/giphy domineering-breezy-raccoon
Eastern Iowa/380 corridor want to split a case?
@JnKL
I’d take 3-4 bottles if you ever get east to DsM/Altoona area. I’m pulled to NW IA a lot right now for family, so can’t really commit to eastward travel on my end at this time. I’ll just order a 3 pack if you are unable, no pressure/worries.
In for 3. Fascinating story about the vineyard. I’ve only known Lodi for the high alcohol zins (not that there’s anything wrong with that).
NoVA peeps - anyone up for a split? Think I have one taker possible. Someone else interested?
@WkdPanda I would be in. Work in Chantilly if works
@n3uka Got another Chantilly person to split with. That would make 4 each right now.
PM me on the woot boards for contact info.
(Also crossposted up top)
Really nice cinsault. I’ve had a few here and there, most recently Buena Vista so I’m a little familiar.
They are unique though and you will try to think oh It’s like this… but different so I will do my best.
This one is medium bodied and color. Darker than a pinot and even some zins but doesn’t feel as heavy as you might think from looking at it.
Bright red fruit on the nose, cherry candy comes to mind, I also got some pretty floral notes. Tastes very fruity, cherry, ripe strawberry but not over the top and the alcohol is in check (14.5 really?). Very smooth with some light spice on the backend, low tannin, no oak and big acidity. Really great with food - this went perfectly with salmon. The finish was the only slightly dissapointing aspect being pretty short, but high acid low tannin wines are often like that. Overall this was very balanced and well made. If it wasn’t for all the fruit I would almost mistake this for an old world wine.
But this is exactly the kind of thing I drink the most, not too heavy and great with lighter foods. I usually have pinots, zins and sangiovese but I enjoy a good cabernet or petite sirah especially with bigger meals or by themselves. I would compare this to something more towards a scott harvey zin and less wellington. This is a good price, between $15-18 depending on quantity and your tax. I would pay $20-25 no problem.
@ilCesare I really like the lab rat reports. Has it always been one person or do multiple people write about the offer?
Usually multiple but not always. Will be having the second half of the bottle tonight and will post further notes.
@ilCesare
In time for us to possibly buy?
Day 2: The wine held up nicely. Flavors are a little muted but still a bit fruity, bright and clean, it hasn’t fallen apart. Huge acid (almost too much, but I love it). Thinking about it more I would put this up against a Noceto sangiovese any day. Good stuff.
You had me at Cinsault! I just discovered this grape as a stand-alone last summer and a new obsession was born. It’s hard to find. Thanks for a great offering!!
In for a case. Seattle peeps - let me know if you’d like a few bottles otherwise I’ll hoard them all for myself… With tax a free shipping it comes out to $14.65/bottle…
/giphy cynical-royal-rooster
@lindylouwho I would like to try one if you dont mind sharing!
@Redstone_
I’ve only ever tasted the late harvest Cinsaut we have here at Putah Creek, so I suppose I had best educate myself with a bottle or three. Sweet isn’t usually my thing but the layers of flavor in there show a lot of promise for the grape as a whole.
@SonOfAVondruke Had no idea someone was doing a ‘late harvest’ one - seems nearly impossible with how big the clusters are and how much fruit these vines normally set . . .
@tercerowines I couldn’t tell you the details on the viticultural or enological front, but it tastes like the holidays and isn’t so cloyingly sweet as to turn off a lot of people who normally don’t do sweet wine. If you’re interested, maybe we can arrange a swap next time I head south.
@SonOfAVondruke Would certainly be up for that. Drop me a line offline and let’s make it happen!
Anybody in the ATL area interested in sharing? I’m in the north metro area.
@lurking_grue Sure, I’m in for a case. How many bottles would you like?
@nostrom0 Belay that, turns out that I’m in for a case myself. Thanks, though.
/giphy waxy-flat-moon
Filled in Maryland with a 3 pack
Its a decent price, and I have 2 others for the split. Might have room for a 3rd.
/giphy wimpy-perforated-load
NE OH Split?
I have more wine than I need but it sounds interesting, and they sell 3 cases a week a The Girl & Fig in Sonoma!
@mrn1 I’d go in for 6 btls. I agree with your comments. I never had this varietal, but I love Pinots and Zin. I live in Brunswick and I’m retired. Do you live in Brecksville? If so, that would be an easy exchange. Let me know soon!
@Boatman72 I just ordered a case.
I’ll send you a PM thru Woot w/ my contact info.
@mrn1 Interesting, but I have to slow down the buying and up the drinking. BTW, notice of the Tercero shipping came today.
@mrn1 Excellent, checking now.
@mrn1 @mehnyblooms @xena67 Interested in a bottle or two?
@mrn1 I would love two bottles if you want to give them up. If only one, that’s great too. Let me know how it goes. Thanks!
@pjmartin Great! When it lands let me know and we can arrange $ for vino swap! Send me a PM thru Woot (mrn1 there too) with your contact info, and I’ll give you email, cell, etc.
1st case shipping to Cattaraugus County NY, found someone in my office to split with. Would split 3 or 4 ways if there’s anyone in the area that’s interested.
/giphy meaningful-omnipresent-bike
Love the winery participation on this one!
@nostrom0 tis the way it should ALWAYS be, right?!?!?
@nostrom0 you’d think. We’re certainly grateful to be here and see all the great comments!
PSA: Should have mentioned this earlier but for those of you that don’t look at, and toss the papers that come in your box… don’t
Something special for you there.
@onesta only had band blend 9 arrive so far and I’m an information dork. I’ve already scanned it into a Casemates file with my orders
@onesta mystery paperwork?? ooo…
/giphy peculiar-uniform-fly
I am not familiar at all with this grape but all the comments have me intrigued. In for 3.
I am a bit confused by some of the comments of esteemed @snapster - I thought that splitting cases is just something we can do on our own behalf - now do I read that right that mediocre is working on a way to automate that? to what extent? address disclosures? matchmaking? payment processing? … or or or am I reading too much into it…?
@datruandi the scope of intent is broad, but it will take a while to do things right. For starters, we’re working on account targeted messaging format (to replace what Woot forums call PMs). The other acknowledged feature is payment splitting. Both are “in the months to come” etas. We have to go slow enough that we don’t build up any esteem.
@snapster
I’m quite surprised by how many folks are already taking the bull by the cork. I haven’t been counting (I assume a meh minion is counting) but it seems that there is far more group buying activity than on that old site.
@Lighter we are definitely excited to confirm how organic it is with just the pricing motivation in play. We’re hoping it is also “fun” to meet up with folks. I’ll let you know my direct opinion there after I complete a buying group!
Ordered a case if anyone near STL is interested in any. Only 6 spoken for, will cellar the rest if no other interested parties.
@outofhand I could go for 2 if there are any still available. You already splitting with others in STL?
@james We can do 2 still, and we are splitting with friends, but no one from Casemates yet.
@outofhand Ok! If there’s a convenient place to meet, you can let me know once it arrives. I work downtown and live in south/west county area so I can go anywhere pretty much.
@james I work downtown too, and live in West County. I’ll ping you when they get in, maybe by then we’ll have PM’s available…
Any Albany NY/Capital Region mates want to split a case?
@propvin hey I’m the guy from the Albany thread. I picked up 3 of them. If you didn’t manage to get in on it, maybe we can arrange a trade somewhere down the line! I think for future reference if you post in that thread and push it to the top, I’ll have a better chance of seeing it and we can work something out. (though this time I had jumped on it myself pretty quick)
Damn, sorry I missed this…
Just arrived. First time trying this grape so I only went with the 3-pack, but I’m regretting it now. I’m really enjoying it! A lot of strawberry and black cherry with hints of leather on the nose. Slightly quick but fresh/clean finish. Was expecting a thin body, so the medium texture was a nice surprise.
Got to love Casemates! New delicious wine with an exceptional community.
@fredpgh good to hear. I got a case since the price was right and I have never heard of this grape. I am excited to try it out and share with family and friends.
Pulled the cork tonight with dinner. Crispy duck, bok choy (sesame garlic), and brown jasmine rice.
Cork bottom was really red, and maybe dried out a little it split into the bottle very easy.
As mentioned above I’m pleasantly surprised by the body. Slightly darker in color the. A pinot noir not near a cab.
Right out of the bottle I get black cherry peak of season.
Low tannin, low alcohol, sweet on the nose and tongue.
Very surprised and a daily drinker. I might regret not buying more than 3 bottles. Would love to see this one aged in a year.
We opened this tonight. Very drinkable, can see this being a random weeknight wine. Mostly got plum, not too much on the berry side. Low acid, not quite flat but maybe not balanced as well as well’d prefer. Soft tannins.
Opened a bottle last night as well. Very enjoyable on its own. Like @novium said, low acidity. Nice color though
Love it! Wish I had purchased more!
Seems to be a trend. Really enjoyed the bottle I opened the other day and wish I had gone for 12! If this ever reappears I won’t make the mistake twice.
Same as the others. Bought 3, wish I’d sprung for the case. Might hit up the winery for a few extra bottles, but I’m on the lookout if it reappears! Great deal.
Wow, I wish I bought a case. Tried one of my three bottles the other night, and I loved it.
So great hearing all the positive responses!!! In case you missed it on the insert in your package, or it wasn’t there, here’s a coupon code for all of you for 20% off at the website: casemates
@boatman72 You’re gonna like this one! Don’t tell @HopHeadB how good it is, he might try and steal a few!