The 100% Mendocino County 2016 Parducci Wine Cellars Rosé exhibits juicy tastes of watermelon and strawberries that lead to a creamy, vanilla-tinged finish.
Specifications
Vintage: 2016
Varietal: 79% Grenache, 21% Syrah
Appellation: Mendocino County
Aging: Direct to press and 100% stainless steel fermented and aged
Winery: Parducci
Owner: the Thornhill family
Location: Mendocino County, CA
Parducci Wine Cellars is continuing the legacy and vision of John “Mr. Mendocino” Parducci, one of the greatest winemakers of the 20th century. Our family-run winery has an 85 year history of crafting artisan wines with a reputation for value, quality, and care for our local community.
Today Parducci Wine Cellars continues to be family-owned and operated by three generations of the Thornhill family who are dedicated to growing superior wine grapes in Mendocino County with the philosophy of “leaving things better than we find them.”
I know this wont help much, but I have a case of Parducci True Grit CS in my cellar. I think I got it from costco. But I really like it. Really amazing QPR iirc. I would be confident serving it at any occasion.
I’ll probably grab a half case. Only 1 more month until I stop ordering wine for the upcoming heat here. Imma hate missing out on some upcoming deals… unless I find some peeps in SD to hold onto some juice so when I visit my fam I’ll pick up orders. I don’t trust my wine to be shipped to them
A box came, unannounced, last Friday. Definitely not carried by a monkey - just some FedEx worker. Figuring this was the Sunday night offer, we sat down to drink it on Saturday evening.
The bottle started off ice cold - definitely colder than one would normally drink this (or any) wine, but it lets you see how things evolve as it warms up.
Colour is a nice light pink. Very close in colour to the tulips on our table right now, not that it’s worth much. Either way, its colour is the sort of range you’d expect, and middle of the road as far as rosé goes.
The aromas were not particularly distinct at first, owing at least in part to the coldness of the wine. At this stage the best I could get was that it smelled “fresh”, if that makes any sense. Kind of like a combination of fruit and the general outdoors (not woodsy or earthy, though).
Impressions from the first glass, as it warmed up were that it was very crisp (a good thing in my book). There’s no RS to speak of here. The primary fruit flavour was strawberries and there were also some red apples mixed in. The tartness hinted at citrus, but not in a readily identifiable way. Finish was fairly short.
Then I let a glass warm up for a bit and get some air. This let some baking spice and stone fruit come out in the aroma department, although the overall sense of freshness didn’t dissipate.
The flavours were more in the direction of wild berries, especially wild strawberries, which I very much liked. Reminded me a bit of when I went strawberry picking as a kid and half the berries wouldn’t make it into the basket. Even some hints of watermelon Jolly Rancher (which I’ve seen as a descriptor enough times before, but I don’t think I’ve ever used).
The finish is where things get controversial. There was some definite grapefruit and bitterness on the finish, and it became more apparent with air and/or warmth. I didn’t mind it, although I do perceive bitterness. molarchae, on the other hand, did not appreciate this given her sensitivities to bitter flavours. It reminded her of Pinot Gris on the finish, which is the death knell for wine for her. She might chime in with more, we’ll see.
So the long and the short of it is that if you either like grapefruit and/or don’t mind bitterness on the finish this is an excellent value at $8+/bottle. If you’re on the fence with that sort of thing, then simply drink it a little colder. If you’re super sensitive to bitter, you’d best skip this wine.
@klezman thank you for the great notes friend (or should I say “mate”)? Is the bitterness at the end what I sometimes percieve as a “bite”? Is it closer to pith or more akin to a metallic and/or synthetic after taste?
Finally, can you compare this to any roses offered on WW before?
@losthighwayz Definitely pith and not metallic or synthetic. I wouldn’t even call it “bite”.
I never got a whole lot of rose from WW, actually. It’s a lot lighter than either Pinkie Swear or Pedroncelli. Rather different from the Bravium set, those being Pinot Noir.
@klezman Tercero? Liquid Farm? Isa? I assume a notch or two below these but similar stylistically? Noticed the PH is 3.1 enamel peeling number in my book! But I quite enjoy low ph whites and roses.
@losthighwayz Tercero and LF are both Mourvedre - zero comparison worth making here. I considered comparing to the Campesino Isa, given the same Grenache base, but my prior notes aren’t all that helpful. I guess they share some of a strawberry component, but this is lighter while the Isa has more depth. Obviously I preferred the ones without a bitter finish, which the Campesino didn’t have. I’d take Campesino at the BD price before I’d take this at the Casemates price, but again, that’s my (and molarchae’s, primarily) aversion to the pith sensation on the finish more than anything else.
@neuroticsilence I could do two or three bottles. If nobody else is interested, we could split a half case, as the cost difference isn’t that huge between the two offerings.
@neuroticsilence@LambruscoKid I’ll take 4 and do a 3 way split. This winter has been stupid mild. The grill has been out for weeks. Heading out to the gorge tomm for a hike and this seems like a good omen for spring. Throwaway email to coordinate pdxcase@gmail I’ll check tomm
@mkenny2307 You may have missed the announcement last week that you can leave private messages right here, saves you from having to check your burner email. Just click the “Whisper” link instead of “Reply”.
I was just telling someone the other day that I was going to buy the next rosé offering on Casemates as I had finished all the bottles of it in my cellar. @klezman’s tasting notes indicate this one will be right up my alley, so I’m in.
Has any of our Lab Rats noticed the “creamy, vanilla-tinged finish” as advertised? That really got my attention and would be a big selling point for me.
@gemeinschaft79 I didn’t write anything down that indicated that sort of thing. It’s also something I normally associate with moderate to heavy oak influence, which doesn’t exist in this wine.
As the wine warmed up, as most do, it started to feel richer/creamier in texture since the acids become less prominent with warmth. But I didn’t really get a sense of vanilla. Of course ymmv.
@klezman I associate “creamy vanilla” finish with French oak aging too. That’s why I was curious about the write up. I wondered if they figured out how to do that with stainless steel. I’m in for 6 anyway, but I wish it did have the soft finish it advertises.
@gemeinschaft79 I think Malolactic fermentation (MLF) can create that creamy (though typically buttery) flavoring. Perhaps that’s how they could get the “creamy vanilla”? Though if @Klezman didn’t appreciate it, perhaps it’s pretty subtle…
@gemeinschaft79 as klezman and vaaccess have mentioned, oak aging and/or MLF but I will also add that Sur Lie Aging can produce a creamy texture in white and sparkling wines as well. I’m not sure if this method is ever used for still Rosé wines but would assume that it could be since the example at the end of the article is a sparkling Rosé.
@chipgreen@gemeinschaft79 Agreed on all counts. I didn’t even consider MLF in this case, but there could certainly have been some. The wild berries argues a bit against that in my (limited) experience, but that would be a question the Parducci folks could easily answer.
It’s nowhere near as rich or heavy as a fully MLF white.
Anyone in the Downtown Detroit/Madison Heights, MI area want to split a few bottles? Wouldn’t mind having some, but six bottles it a bit much for me (I mainly want a few options around for guests)
@SkyyPunk I’m toying with the idea of getting a case and would be in for splitting off a few bottles. I’m in Lansing though - not sure the best way to hand off. Any ideas?
Anyone here in the vicinity of the WV Eastern Panhandle (say, Hagerstown MD to Winchester VA?) For future opportunities? Bought a half case of this and want to keep it, but for future offerings…
Y’all are killing me. I’m looking at Lent on the one hand, and an excess of bottles on the other. I’m thinking I’ll be sitting out a while… until someone points out that it’s going to be warming up soon. Ahem.
Any excuse to buy a rose. Really. And the Parducci is reliably delightful.
I have to say, I keep getting the email notification that there is a new Casemates offer the next day. This one arrived 24 hours and 1 minute afterwards!
I was surprised to receive an unexpected single wine box last Friday. On opening it I realized it must be the first lab rat we’ve had from Casemates. Very exciting.
A little less exciting was the fact it was a rose’ since we tend not to drink much rose’ (or whites), but to make things even more complicated, my wife (the tasting expert) is pregnant so that meant we would have to rely on joining others. Klezman didn’t mention we were there for the epic tasting adventure, but that’s probably because he figured I didn’t have much to add. But still…
We had put the bottle in the refrigerator so it was pretty cold when we eventually opened it. I wouldn’t describe it as ice cold but certainly colder than wine refrigerator cold. So the wine started off pretty closed off.
These were some of my notes:
The color is a pleasant salmon pink. The aroma is refreshingly clean. It was quite chilled so at first it was just a very crisp flavor with a bit of grapefruit taste to it. (I didn’t taste any strawberries or other fruits.)
On the palate, light and dry and refreshingly smooth. Short finish. Probably a bit more tart in the finish than I’d prefer. As it warmed up those same flavors became more pronounced, but I still didn’t get much (if any) of how the tasting notes here have described it. Based on the price here, if rose’ is your thing and you enjoy grapefruit with some bitter finish and clean crisp flavor (it would be nice to have for when it is warmer), this seems to be a good QPR.
@Bdonski What do you mean reorder info? As far as I know most of the deals on casemates are one time offers. However, you can always contact the Winery directly and see if they are willing to sell to you at the same price. Sometimes they are.
Tasting Notes
The 100% Mendocino County 2016 Parducci Wine Cellars Rosé exhibits juicy tastes of watermelon and strawberries that lead to a creamy, vanilla-tinged finish.
Specifications
Price Comparison
$228.96/case at Parducci (including shipping)
About The Winery
Winery: Parducci
Owner: the Thornhill family
Location: Mendocino County, CA
Parducci Wine Cellars is continuing the legacy and vision of John “Mr. Mendocino” Parducci, one of the greatest winemakers of the 20th century. Our family-run winery has an 85 year history of crafting artisan wines with a reputation for value, quality, and care for our local community.
Today Parducci Wine Cellars continues to be family-owned and operated by three generations of the Thornhill family who are dedicated to growing superior wine grapes in Mendocino County with the philosophy of “leaving things better than we find them.”
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, KS, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, WA, WV, WI, WY
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Feb 26 - Tuesday, Feb 27
@klezman has a LabRat Report for us.
@time2testit thinks you’ll like this, “if rose’ is your thing…”
Parducci Small Lot Rosé
6 bottles for $54.99 $9.17/bottle + $1.33/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $99.99 $8.33/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2016 Parducci Rosé Small Lot Blend New CT
2016 Parducci Rosé Small Lot Blend Old CT
How much are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations)
2016 Parducci Small Lot Rosé - $10 = 9.09%
We drink rose like water around these parts. Any rats on this offer?
@CorTot Coming your way shortly…
Well, we know ERMD54302 likes the '15, and has Corison, IH, Pedroncelli, Wellington, Woot, Winesmith and Gruet in the cellar.
That should count for something…
I know this wont help much, but I have a case of Parducci True Grit CS in my cellar. I think I got it from costco. But I really like it. Really amazing QPR iirc. I would be confident serving it at any occasion.
Nice, I’ll sit on this. I hope to see other varietals from this winery. Especially those reserves.
I’ll probably grab a half case. Only 1 more month until I stop ordering wine for the upcoming heat here. Imma hate missing out on some upcoming deals… unless I find some peeps in SD to hold onto some juice so when I visit my fam I’ll pick up orders. I don’t trust my wine to be shipped to them
Parducci 2016 Small Lot Rosé
A box came, unannounced, last Friday. Definitely not carried by a monkey - just some FedEx worker. Figuring this was the Sunday night offer, we sat down to drink it on Saturday evening.
The bottle started off ice cold - definitely colder than one would normally drink this (or any) wine, but it lets you see how things evolve as it warms up.
Colour is a nice light pink. Very close in colour to the tulips on our table right now, not that it’s worth much. Either way, its colour is the sort of range you’d expect, and middle of the road as far as rosé goes.
The aromas were not particularly distinct at first, owing at least in part to the coldness of the wine. At this stage the best I could get was that it smelled “fresh”, if that makes any sense. Kind of like a combination of fruit and the general outdoors (not woodsy or earthy, though).
Impressions from the first glass, as it warmed up were that it was very crisp (a good thing in my book). There’s no RS to speak of here. The primary fruit flavour was strawberries and there were also some red apples mixed in. The tartness hinted at citrus, but not in a readily identifiable way. Finish was fairly short.
Then I let a glass warm up for a bit and get some air. This let some baking spice and stone fruit come out in the aroma department, although the overall sense of freshness didn’t dissipate.
The flavours were more in the direction of wild berries, especially wild strawberries, which I very much liked. Reminded me a bit of when I went strawberry picking as a kid and half the berries wouldn’t make it into the basket. Even some hints of watermelon Jolly Rancher (which I’ve seen as a descriptor enough times before, but I don’t think I’ve ever used).
The finish is where things get controversial. There was some definite grapefruit and bitterness on the finish, and it became more apparent with air and/or warmth. I didn’t mind it, although I do perceive bitterness. molarchae, on the other hand, did not appreciate this given her sensitivities to bitter flavours. It reminded her of Pinot Gris on the finish, which is the death knell for wine for her. She might chime in with more, we’ll see.
So the long and the short of it is that if you either like grapefruit and/or don’t mind bitterness on the finish this is an excellent value at $8+/bottle. If you’re on the fence with that sort of thing, then simply drink it a little colder. If you’re super sensitive to bitter, you’d best skip this wine.
@klezman thank you for the great notes friend (or should I say “mate”)? Is the bitterness at the end what I sometimes percieve as a “bite”? Is it closer to pith or more akin to a metallic and/or synthetic after taste?
Finally, can you compare this to any roses offered on WW before?
@losthighwayz Definitely pith and not metallic or synthetic. I wouldn’t even call it “bite”.
I never got a whole lot of rose from WW, actually. It’s a lot lighter than either Pinkie Swear or Pedroncelli. Rather different from the Bravium set, those being Pinot Noir.
@klezman Tercero? Liquid Farm? Isa? I assume a notch or two below these but similar stylistically? Noticed the PH is 3.1 enamel peeling number in my book! But I quite enjoy low ph whites and roses.
@losthighwayz Tercero and LF are both Mourvedre - zero comparison worth making here. I considered comparing to the Campesino Isa, given the same Grenache base, but my prior notes aren’t all that helpful. I guess they share some of a strawberry component, but this is lighter while the Isa has more depth. Obviously I preferred the ones without a bitter finish, which the Campesino didn’t have. I’d take Campesino at the BD price before I’d take this at the Casemates price, but again, that’s my (and molarchae’s, primarily) aversion to the pith sensation on the finish more than anything else.
Oh boy, anyone in PDX planning on buying? Mama needs some rosé, but not a whole case…
@neuroticsilence I could do two or three bottles. If nobody else is interested, we could split a half case, as the cost difference isn’t that huge between the two offerings.
@neuroticsilence @LambruscoKid I’ll take 4 and do a 3 way split. This winter has been stupid mild. The grill has been out for weeks. Heading out to the gorge tomm for a hike and this seems like a good omen for spring. Throwaway email to coordinate pdxcase@gmail I’ll check tomm
@mkenny2307 You may have missed the announcement last week that you can leave private messages right here, saves you from having to check your burner email. Just click the “Whisper” link instead of “Reply”.
I could be talked into a few bottles as well.
Atlanta folks, I’m buying a case but only want 6. Let me know if you’d like some.
@jhkey I’m in for the other 6 if you are still looking. (I’m in Decatur)
@quantumturk great! they’re yours. I’ll get in touch when they arrive.
I was in for a case until I discovered no shipping to VA. Booo!
@DebRVA How close to the MD line?
@DebRVA @jml326 Richmond VA…So, not that close.
@DebRVA @vaaccess sorry
I was just telling someone the other day that I was going to buy the next rosé offering on Casemates as I had finished all the bottles of it in my cellar. @klezman’s tasting notes indicate this one will be right up my alley, so I’m in.
/giphy concerned-loveable-platinum
Has any of our Lab Rats noticed the “creamy, vanilla-tinged finish” as advertised? That really got my attention and would be a big selling point for me.
@gemeinschaft79 I didn’t write anything down that indicated that sort of thing. It’s also something I normally associate with moderate to heavy oak influence, which doesn’t exist in this wine.
As the wine warmed up, as most do, it started to feel richer/creamier in texture since the acids become less prominent with warmth. But I didn’t really get a sense of vanilla. Of course ymmv.
@klezman I associate “creamy vanilla” finish with French oak aging too. That’s why I was curious about the write up. I wondered if they figured out how to do that with stainless steel. I’m in for 6 anyway, but I wish it did have the soft finish it advertises.
@gemeinschaft79 I think Malolactic fermentation (MLF) can create that creamy (though typically buttery) flavoring. Perhaps that’s how they could get the “creamy vanilla”? Though if @Klezman didn’t appreciate it, perhaps it’s pretty subtle…
@gemeinschaft79 as klezman and vaaccess have mentioned, oak aging and/or MLF but I will also add that Sur Lie Aging can produce a creamy texture in white and sparkling wines as well. I’m not sure if this method is ever used for still Rosé wines but would assume that it could be since the example at the end of the article is a sparkling Rosé.
@chipgreen @gemeinschaft79 Agreed on all counts. I didn’t even consider MLF in this case, but there could certainly have been some. The wild berries argues a bit against that in my (limited) experience, but that would be a question the Parducci folks could easily answer.
It’s nowhere near as rich or heavy as a fully MLF white.
@gemeinschaft79 Nope. Didn’t get that finish at all.
Anyone in the Downtown Detroit/Madison Heights, MI area want to split a few bottles? Wouldn’t mind having some, but six bottles it a bit much for me (I mainly want a few options around for guests)
@SkyyPunk I’m toying with the idea of getting a case and would be in for splitting off a few bottles. I’m in Lansing though - not sure the best way to hand off. Any ideas?
@Kastenessen Yeah lansing is a bit far for this one, maybe a different of later
/giphy dysfunctional-assured-water
Anyone here in the vicinity of the WV Eastern Panhandle (say, Hagerstown MD to Winchester VA?) For future opportunities? Bought a half case of this and want to keep it, but for future offerings…
Y’all are killing me. I’m looking at Lent on the one hand, and an excess of bottles on the other. I’m thinking I’ll be sitting out a while… until someone points out that it’s going to be warming up soon. Ahem.
Any excuse to buy a rose. Really. And the Parducci is reliably delightful.
I have to say, I keep getting the email notification that there is a new Casemates offer the next day. This one arrived 24 hours and 1 minute afterwards!
@MarkDaSpark Their timing is intentional.
@MarkDaSpark same here. I’ve been sick all week so I didn’t even notice this was up until I got the email (just an hour or so ago).
INSERT FANCY LAB RAT GRAPHIC HERE:
I was surprised to receive an unexpected single wine box last Friday. On opening it I realized it must be the first lab rat we’ve had from Casemates. Very exciting.
A little less exciting was the fact it was a rose’ since we tend not to drink much rose’ (or whites), but to make things even more complicated, my wife (the tasting expert) is pregnant so that meant we would have to rely on joining others. Klezman didn’t mention we were there for the epic tasting adventure, but that’s probably because he figured I didn’t have much to add. But still…
We had put the bottle in the refrigerator so it was pretty cold when we eventually opened it. I wouldn’t describe it as ice cold but certainly colder than wine refrigerator cold. So the wine started off pretty closed off.
These were some of my notes:
The color is a pleasant salmon pink. The aroma is refreshingly clean. It was quite chilled so at first it was just a very crisp flavor with a bit of grapefruit taste to it. (I didn’t taste any strawberries or other fruits.)
On the palate, light and dry and refreshingly smooth. Short finish. Probably a bit more tart in the finish than I’d prefer. As it warmed up those same flavors became more pronounced, but I still didn’t get much (if any) of how the tasting notes here have described it. Based on the price here, if rose’ is your thing and you enjoy grapefruit with some bitter finish and clean crisp flavor (it would be nice to have for when it is warmer), this seems to be a good QPR.
Any Raleigh folks interested in a split?
@maroontigre I’m down for 2 bottlesif we time this right! I’m in town the 23-25 (so next weekend)
I’d split a case in Tallahassee - anybody interested?
Does anybody have the reorder info for this? Is it still available
I finally popped a couple of bottles, really like it for the price.
@Bdonski What do you mean reorder info? As far as I know most of the deals on casemates are one time offers. However, you can always contact the Winery directly and see if they are willing to sell to you at the same price. Sometimes they are.