Palate: full-bodied, rich and silky tannins, long finish, rich black fruit finish
Varietal: Petite Sirah, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Syrah
Wine: fruit is sourced from the southern region of Monterey County, just north of Paso Robles. This area is known for long, warm days, ideal for sun-loving reds. The result is a balanced, full-bodied wine of intensity and structure.
Pair with barbecue ribs, slow-roasted meats, hamburgers.
Specs
Vintage: 2017
Alcohol: 13.5%
Included in the Box
6-bottles:
6x 2017 Pareto’s Estate Eighty20 Red Blend, Monterey County
Case:
12x 2017 Pareto’s Estate Eighty20 Red Blend, Monterey County
The vineyards of Pareto’s Estate are located in the Monterey appellation on California’s central coast. This area is known for having the longest growing season in California, lasting on average about two weeks longer than other regions. We thank the early morning fogs and gusty afternoon winds for this fortunate phenomenon – it wreaks havoc on women’s hairdos but the grapes love it.
We also pay homage to the awesome influence of the Monterey Bay, for without its plummeting depth of over 10,000 feet, the fog, chilly air, and reliable breezes wouldn’t exist. And without them, Monterey doesn’t win the prize for the longest hang time. And without longest hang time, the impeccable fruit that bursts with vibrant aromas and complex flavors would be….let’s not even go there.
A few other facts you should know. At Pareto’s Estate, our wines are 100% estate grown. Estate grown means that the grapes are grown on our vineyards and are crushed each vintage at our winery. Nobody else gets to touch them. Nobody. Yes, we’re control freaks. Another tidbit is that our winery is a thing of beauty. Built-in 2005, it is state-of-the-art and absolutely gorgeous if you’re into that sort of thing, which we are. One last factoid – our vineyards are 100% sustainably certified by the California Sustainable Winegrowing Alliance. We love our vines and take care of them.
The Pareto Principle, also called the 80/20 rule, states that 80% of results come from 20% of the effort. This is true in the world of wine, where 80% of wine is consumed by 20% of the people. With Pareto’s Estate, we raise our glasses to those of us that take up the slack of others. Cheers to the 20%!
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, KS, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, ND, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY
@CorTot@ttboy23 looks like it’s just a stock photo. The other labrat’s bottle said 2017 on the label, they must have switched to screw caps for the more recent vintages!
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations)
2017 Pareto’s Estate Eighty20 Red Blend - $20 = 16.66%
The Pareto Principle, named after economist Vilfredo Pareto, specifies that 80% of consequences come from 20% of the causes, asserting an unequal relationship between inputs and outputs. This has been re-imagined in popular parlance that 80% of the work requires 20% of the effort, a descriptive though not particularly informative bromide as it seems obvious to even the most casual observer. The winery asserts that “80% of wine is consumed by 20% of the people”, though only 75% of the US population is of legal drinking age and there myriad religious and personal reasons for not consuming alcohol, let alone wine. Perhaps I’m a curmudgeon who is hypersensitive to over-specified statistics.
To try to overcome my bias, I tasted it “blind” by having my wife pour equal amounts of the Eighty20 Red Blend and the 2017 Chateau Guthrie (a 40/40/20 GSM blend) into glasses labeled ‘A’ and ‘B’. I don’t think that Eighty20 is a GSM blend, but I couldn’t figure out its composition and I have plenty of the Chateau Guthrie kicking around.
Wine A: You don’t care about wine A*
Wine B: Dark plum color, consistent edge. No signs of age but doesn’t look too ‘young’ either. Rather closed nose, mostly smells like wine. After some swirling I get a hint of bramble berry fruits but it is subtle. Maybe a little bit of something vegetal. Very nice on the palate with baking spice and a subtle leather note. There are barely perceptible tannins which don’t really grip but sort of make my taste buds stand at attention. Dusty dry pepper undertones. Medium body, decent length with a somewhat earthy red raspberry finish. I have no idea what is in here but it finishes like a light bodied Zinfandel. I can’t imagine there’s a lot of zin because of how closed the nose is but it is very nice. There is little if no residual sugar and it tastes like the acidity is in balance. My wife says “the nose is lightly smoky with a vanilla taste, like dry cherry cola and vanilla. Tastes like a nice $10 wine.”
I left it on the counter, uncorked, overnight, and the following day the nose has opened up a bit more. Now it has Bing cherry or blackberry. The flavor is unchanged, still fairly bright with red fruits, a mild yet pleasant tannic grip and a long finish. It seems longer than yesterday, maybe 10 s. The dusty undertone has dissipated, which is disappointing. No real dominant flavor, it is well balanced. Maybe a little bit of bramble fruit asserts itself after a few sips. It’s not better than yesterday, but certainly not worse.
It was an interesting match with Korean-inspired chicken meatballs. They were slightly sweet and brought out more dark fruit and maybe some cedar. This is somewhat densely structured wine with more nuance than I expected. Good with a Mediterranean bulgur salad with Feta and chickpeas, which brought out some cedar or leather notes. It was not good with a deep-dish pizza that had a zippy sauce. It burned like lemon juice on a cut.
This is a peculiar wine. It comes off as neutral and not particularly complex, which I’d expect to be bland. Somehow there is just enough fruit, just enough earth held in balance to produce a whole that’s greater than the sum of its parts. It reminds me of Chianti. Consistent production, outstanding QPR, interesting enough to think about, good with food and you never regret popping the cork. Thanks to WCC and Pareto’s Estate for giving me the opportunity to taste this bottle, hopefully I overcame my bias to sufficiently inform my fellow ‘mates. Salut!
But if you’ve read this far and you care about holding me accountable, here’s the notes on Wine A: Pure burgundy w/ consistent edge. Thickly coats the glass with very slowly developing legs. There is a strong whiff of oak which lies heavily on top of a bowl of mixed red fruits. It smells like a medium bodied cabernet sauvignon with its herbal notes: tarragon or eucalyptus or menthol. The oak dissipates after significant swirling. Medium body on the palate, rather lean with a long juicy finish. Some back notes of earth and leather, a little bit of apple skin. Nice balance.
@chipgreen@KitMarlot Apparently it’s just misused by all!
We usually flip it around to say that the last 20% of the progress (that we do in R&D) takes about 80% of the effort. That’s not wrong.
Sorry for the delayed notes, I didn’t get a good read on this last night as I was busy and found it somewhat uninteresting/closed. Today I was at Disneyland most of the day so I’m now revisiting the wine.
My day one notes consisted of black cherry, oak, vanilla, mostly merlot?
I had a couple of glasses and I really didn’t get much from it. I saved the rest in a full 375 for tonight and found it opened up a bit.
Night 2
Color: a clear medium ruby
Nose: big young nose of black cherry, wood, vanilla, some noticeable alcohol, plum, maybe a little sage.
Taste: very similar notes to the nose, maybe a bit grapey. I would have guessed this is mostly merlot but seeing the primary grape is PS makes sense.
Overall notes: this is a pass for me. Didn’t care for the wine. It didn’t show particularly well and found it lacked depth and is over oaked. Sorry Scheid this ones not great.
I guess it begs the question, but if you adhere to the “optimality” did you only use 20% (which one would hope would be the best) of your grapes for this wine?
If not, why not? The entire schtick of the wine is a stupid adage. Six Sigma will blow your mind!
Tasting Notes
Specs
Included in the Box
Price Comparison
$204 for a Case/$17 MSRP, Not Sold on the Website
About The Winery
Winery: Pareto’s Estate
The vineyards of Pareto’s Estate are located in the Monterey appellation on California’s central coast. This area is known for having the longest growing season in California, lasting on average about two weeks longer than other regions. We thank the early morning fogs and gusty afternoon winds for this fortunate phenomenon – it wreaks havoc on women’s hairdos but the grapes love it.
We also pay homage to the awesome influence of the Monterey Bay, for without its plummeting depth of over 10,000 feet, the fog, chilly air, and reliable breezes wouldn’t exist. And without them, Monterey doesn’t win the prize for the longest hang time. And without longest hang time, the impeccable fruit that bursts with vibrant aromas and complex flavors would be….let’s not even go there.
A few other facts you should know. At Pareto’s Estate, our wines are 100% estate grown. Estate grown means that the grapes are grown on our vineyards and are crushed each vintage at our winery. Nobody else gets to touch them. Nobody. Yes, we’re control freaks. Another tidbit is that our winery is a thing of beauty. Built-in 2005, it is state-of-the-art and absolutely gorgeous if you’re into that sort of thing, which we are. One last factoid – our vineyards are 100% sustainably certified by the California Sustainable Winegrowing Alliance. We love our vines and take care of them.
The Pareto Principle, also called the 80/20 rule, states that 80% of results come from 20% of the effort. This is true in the world of wine, where 80% of wine is consumed by 20% of the people. With Pareto’s Estate, we raise our glasses to those of us that take up the slack of others. Cheers to the 20%!
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, KS, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, ND, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, March 5th - Monday, March 9th
Pareto’s Estate Eighty20 Red Blend
6 bottles for $59.99 $10/bottle + $1.33/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $99.99 $8.33/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2017 Pareto’s Estate Eighty20 Red Blend
I tried this tonight and will post notes tomorrow. Just a FYI the bottle I received was not a screw cap, traditional cork. Same vintage.
@CorTot @wd49 I wonder if they are sending screw caps in the case orders?
@ttboy23 I doubt it.
@CorTot @ttboy23 looks like it’s just a stock photo. The other labrat’s bottle said 2017 on the label, they must have switched to screw caps for the more recent vintages!
@CorTot
Well… Buehler?..Buehler?
[“With Pareto’s Estate, we raise our glasses to those of us that take up the slack of others. Cheers to the 20%!”]
CHEERS!
@ttboy23 Funny how, taken out of the full context, that sounds like they mean something totally different.
@scott0210 Omg you’re right, I just read over the paragraph again! …oops.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations)
2017 Pareto’s Estate Eighty20 Red Blend - $20 = 16.66%
The Pareto Principle, named after economist Vilfredo Pareto, specifies that 80% of consequences come from 20% of the causes, asserting an unequal relationship between inputs and outputs. This has been re-imagined in popular parlance that 80% of the work requires 20% of the effort, a descriptive though not particularly informative bromide as it seems obvious to even the most casual observer. The winery asserts that “80% of wine is consumed by 20% of the people”, though only 75% of the US population is of legal drinking age and there myriad religious and personal reasons for not consuming alcohol, let alone wine. Perhaps I’m a curmudgeon who is hypersensitive to over-specified statistics.
To try to overcome my bias, I tasted it “blind” by having my wife pour equal amounts of the Eighty20 Red Blend and the 2017 Chateau Guthrie (a 40/40/20 GSM blend) into glasses labeled ‘A’ and ‘B’. I don’t think that Eighty20 is a GSM blend, but I couldn’t figure out its composition and I have plenty of the Chateau Guthrie kicking around.
Wine A: You don’t care about wine A*
Wine B: Dark plum color, consistent edge. No signs of age but doesn’t look too ‘young’ either. Rather closed nose, mostly smells like wine. After some swirling I get a hint of bramble berry fruits but it is subtle. Maybe a little bit of something vegetal. Very nice on the palate with baking spice and a subtle leather note. There are barely perceptible tannins which don’t really grip but sort of make my taste buds stand at attention. Dusty dry pepper undertones. Medium body, decent length with a somewhat earthy red raspberry finish. I have no idea what is in here but it finishes like a light bodied Zinfandel. I can’t imagine there’s a lot of zin because of how closed the nose is but it is very nice. There is little if no residual sugar and it tastes like the acidity is in balance. My wife says “the nose is lightly smoky with a vanilla taste, like dry cherry cola and vanilla. Tastes like a nice $10 wine.”
I left it on the counter, uncorked, overnight, and the following day the nose has opened up a bit more. Now it has Bing cherry or blackberry. The flavor is unchanged, still fairly bright with red fruits, a mild yet pleasant tannic grip and a long finish. It seems longer than yesterday, maybe 10 s. The dusty undertone has dissipated, which is disappointing. No real dominant flavor, it is well balanced. Maybe a little bit of bramble fruit asserts itself after a few sips. It’s not better than yesterday, but certainly not worse.
It was an interesting match with Korean-inspired chicken meatballs. They were slightly sweet and brought out more dark fruit and maybe some cedar. This is somewhat densely structured wine with more nuance than I expected. Good with a Mediterranean bulgur salad with Feta and chickpeas, which brought out some cedar or leather notes. It was not good with a deep-dish pizza that had a zippy sauce. It burned like lemon juice on a cut.
This is a peculiar wine. It comes off as neutral and not particularly complex, which I’d expect to be bland. Somehow there is just enough fruit, just enough earth held in balance to produce a whole that’s greater than the sum of its parts. It reminds me of Chianti. Consistent production, outstanding QPR, interesting enough to think about, good with food and you never regret popping the cork. Thanks to WCC and Pareto’s Estate for giving me the opportunity to taste this bottle, hopefully I overcame my bias to sufficiently inform my fellow ‘mates. Salut!
PS Scheid Family, you’ve got to start shipping to Ohio!
@KitMarlot
I thought it was 20% of the people do 80% of the work. As one of the 20% where I work, I know this to be true.
@chipgreen @KitMarlot Apparently it’s just misused by all!
We usually flip it around to say that the last 20% of the progress (that we do in R&D) takes about 80% of the effort. That’s not wrong.
@chipgreen @KitMarlot @klezman that’s how engineering works.
@chipgreen cheers to the 20%!
@chipgreen @CorTot @KitMarlot @klezman “We [do these…] things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard…”
@KitMarlot This is the darn truth!
Does anyone know how this might compare to SANCTUARY WEST SIDE RED BLEND? Thanks.
Sorry for the delayed notes, I didn’t get a good read on this last night as I was busy and found it somewhat uninteresting/closed. Today I was at Disneyland most of the day so I’m now revisiting the wine.
My day one notes consisted of black cherry, oak, vanilla, mostly merlot?
I had a couple of glasses and I really didn’t get much from it. I saved the rest in a full 375 for tonight and found it opened up a bit.
Night 2
Color: a clear medium ruby
Nose: big young nose of black cherry, wood, vanilla, some noticeable alcohol, plum, maybe a little sage.
Taste: very similar notes to the nose, maybe a bit grapey. I would have guessed this is mostly merlot but seeing the primary grape is PS makes sense.
Overall notes: this is a pass for me. Didn’t care for the wine. It didn’t show particularly well and found it lacked depth and is over oaked. Sorry Scheid this ones not great.
“… it was my understanding that there would be no math…”
SNL
I guess it begs the question, but if you adhere to the “optimality” did you only use 20% (which one would hope would be the best) of your grapes for this wine?
If not, why not? The entire schtick of the wine is a stupid adage. Six Sigma will blow your mind!
@KNmeh7 Hehehe…nice