2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot, Walla Walla Valley
Tasting Notes
āAromas of black plum and cherry blossom lead to flavors of Vann cherry, toasted oak, and huckleberry. This is a medium-bodied wine that has great acid to keep it bright and will age incredibly well. Easy to drink with chalky tannins, this will pair well with grilled steaks, oily fish, braised lamb or beef shanks, and hard cheeses.ā -John Freeman, Winemaker
Walla Walla Valley
Deep, silt loam soils that hold moisture exceptionally paired with the diurnal shift - hot days and long, cool nights, which capture great acids and sugars - results in wines with concentrated and well-pronounced flavor.
Vintage Note
2018 represents a very long harvest and a record-breaker for volume and tons crushed. We were weather-lucky this year and the overall quality is definitely there. There were no rains at bloom, so grapes had less mildew pressure than last year. Two weeks of extremely hot weather towards the end of summer allowed fruit to hang a little longer too.
Varietal Blend: 100% Merlot
100% Waterbrook Estate Vineyard, Walla Walla Valley AVA
Aging: 22 months in 40% new French oak
Alcohol: 14.78%
TA: 5.3 g/l
pH: 3.64
2018 Davey & Browne Cabernet Sauvignon, McLaren Vale, Australia
Tasting Notes
This rich, handcrafted McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon is sourced from the finest fruit of the prestigious Gordon and Bitner block, named in honor of Kym and Andrewās grandfathers, in the Davey Estate vineyard. Deep, ripe blackberry flavors create a complex and harmonious balance of long, slow maturation and oak integration.
This Cabernet Sauvignon is dense purple-red in color. Fragrant cassis aromas with nuances of mint chocolate, olive, and graphite. Blackberry and blueberry flavors flow through the medium to full-bodied palate, balanced harmoniously with fine-grained tannins and integrated notes of French oak. A contemporary McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon that expresses the synergy of this noble variety, the terroir, and my personal winemaking philosophy.
Winemaking
Two great McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon blocks combine harmoniously; one, a Reynella clone planted east-west in 1982 on loam, and the other, a CW44 clone planted north-south in 1999 on red clay. Gentle cap management, through traditional open fermentation, protects and nurtures the unique qualities of the terroir. Very fine-grained French oak hogsheads are used to allow a long, slow maturation of the wine and subtle oak integration. A combination of new and 1- to 6-year-old oak barrels, crafted by select coopers to our requirements are used to create nuances and diversity of flavor.
Specs
Variety: 100% Cabernet Sauvignon
Vineyard Source: Gordon & Bitner Block, Davey Estate, McLaren Vale, South Australia
Alcohol: 14.3%
pH: 3.64
TA: 7.1 g/L
Whatās Included
4-bottles:
2x 2018 Davey & Browne Cabernet Sauvignon, McLaren Vale, Australia
2x 2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot, Walla Walla Valley
Case:
6x 2018 Davey & Browne Cabernet Sauvignon, McLaren Vale, Australia
6x 2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot, Walla Walla Valley
Established in 1984, Waterbrook Winery is a Walla Walla, Washington pioneer. Today it features a state-of-the-art winery, a tasting room with year-round events, hospitality, and a 187-acre estate vineyard in the Walla Walla Valley AVA. Winemaker John Freeman masterfully handcrafts wines that are true-to-variety, full of depth and structure, and representative of the Columbia Valleyās best.
Davey & Browne
Davey & Browne represents the culmination of a long, enduring friendship between noted Australian wine luminary Kym Davey, who has a passion for motorbikes, and American wine entrepreneur Andrew Browne, an avid fly fishing enthusiast.
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, ND, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY
Reviews you say? I generally post well regarded undeniably accurate musings from those on high in the
world of wine tasting wisdom. But today I give you a glimpse of a wine from no one other than moi.
So get your pitching arms limbered up and your maters ready. I received a note from Alice wondering if we were available for a last minute package arriving yesterday for rattage today. Absolutely bring it on! So yesterday afternoon UPS shows, in the box is a bottle of 2018 Icon by Waterbrook Merlot.
Iām a bit familiar with Waterbrook wines but not the Icon series. Tossed it in the fridge a time or two before popping. A peek at the bottle shows no sediment, so into the glass and also a slow pour of 1/2 into the decanter for a little air and the other 1/2 remaining in the bottle for a little A/B comparison but there was no real appreciable difference over the evening. Opening temp was 60 Ā°F. Color medium ruby, not transparent, not opaque. I like the nose, earthy, milk chocolate, a spice that Iām probably wrong but lavender came to mind. A little leggy. A sip from Riedel Vinum Bordeaux and thereās definitely a nice spice component, raspberry, I wrote down complex, kind of gritty, good acidity, the tannins are certainly there but not overpowering, medium long finish. Not a cabby merlot. I like this quite a bit.
My bride says initial blackberry nose, dark cherry flavor, tannic but approachable, fruit forward but not jam.
As the night progresses she picks up raspberry, tannins resolving a bit, coming together, nicely balanced.
She prefers this to the 2017 Whitehall Lane Cabernet we were also enjoying. I liked both, they are totally different
animals. About 1/3 of the bottle went into a .375 with a screwcap into the fridge for sometime today. Itās a two
day offer so not feeling compelled to have with my bagelā¦
Oh, kept it simple. Wine was either on itās own or dinner was Flannery 30 day shortloin tails, lightly sauteed fresh picked asparagus with a little shaved pecorino and a baked russet. The wine certainly enjoyed the combination. The pic is the tails before they hit the charcoal, I really like these little morsels.
Cheers and thanks for the opportunity!
@kaolis Thanks for the review and photos. Now I had to look up Flannery shortloin tales and found their website. Looks quite fascinating. Never had that sort of thing. Didnāt even know it existed.
I see their contact is San Rafael CA. Is that where they actually are based? Meaning probably North Marin or Sonoma county stock? I was born there (San Rafael is listed on my birth certificate). So probably I should try these someday(?). Maybe to share with my mother on her upcoming 94th birthday. Since I have her to thank for being born there.
@kaolis@pmarin love love love this review. and thanks for the āon highā reviewās you post. sent just before summer shipping (i have a quirky sense of humor )
San Rafael is 25 minutes from my door. need to call on those Flannery cats. happy birthday to pmarinās mom. 94!
Ok, looked around after the fact, not much out in the ether but of course there is at least one Wine Enthusiast reviewā¦
The Icon:
89 Points. This 100% Merlot offers aromas of fresh raspberry, herb and spice, followed by whiffs of green pepper and medicine that grow over time. Ripe red fruit and chocolate flavors follow, with a slightly pasty feel. SPS 9/1/21
What in the hell? Wine Enthusiast. That isnāt even a descriptor that makes anyone know. Medicine like what? A crushed or pill that sits in your mouth too long and has that filler taste? Cough syrup? Mentholā¦ menthol is the word you were looking for you overpaid slug. Or, eucalyptus if it is a 50+ SRP.
It started out as I jokingly commented years ago, but, seriously, what does it take to be a wine reviewer these days?
My favorite offenders are pain grille. That is toast. Literally put yeast into wheat, give it a day, then put it on fire. That is what you get. We donāt need a french term.
It has a hint reminiscent of an olive. Oh no! It needs to be a Castelvetrano olive. (Again, assuming the SRP is in the hundreds and the reviewer gets it gratis.)
I an an attorney, live next door to a freelance writer. My better halfās best friend is a copy editor. Wineries, feel free to send me wines and I will pick the most wildly obscure and fancy descriptors for your $10 bottle. It isnāt a mushroom, hell, it isnāt a truffle, it will be a white alba truffle.
For example: Label says: Bold and rich, this 100% Merlot showcases aromatics of (unclear) cedar and leather, continuing with deep blackberry on the palate.
Me: Expressing Merlot to its fullest extent, this 100% varietal showcases a proud and bold expression of the grape. It is layered with deep, brooding fruit taste. Imagine walking through wild bramble in an untouched forest, and picking berries. This is that wine.
This childhood memory is only enhanced by the subtle notes of cedar. It will remind you of your grandfatherās cigar box, or foraging morels in the Pacific Northwest.
Seriously, winemakers, I am not joking. I can write the craziest things wealthy people go for.
@kaolis@KNmeh7@ttboy23 I think the real play would be to get going on a new script.
They could write, produce and co-star something like, Oh I dunno, say āBeSidewaysā
Walla Walla is the home to some super-premium producers. Some of them I got to know from offers on the āold siteā and a visit to Walla Walla a while back. (Northstar and Reininger come to mind).
Walla Walla Valley AVA tends to be very limited due to small region and a major freeze that damaged many existing vineyards about 20 years ago. You will see a lot of names based in Walla Walla but most āvolumeā wines will be the much broader āColumbia Valleyā designation.
So most actual Walla Walla wines will be made in smaller quantities (as the 300 cases of this one) and sold at a significant premium over most other Washington State red wines. Price-wise, Waterbrook would be at the lower-end of that range.
Also Drew Bledsoe has a winery (Doubleback) there that sells in very limited quantities on allocation, but I havenāt felt ready to spring for the 4-digit price of a case yet to start on the path to being a āVIP.ā I guess he has a lot of rich friends in the football businessā¦
@pmarin
I know we get great deals here. Thanks to all! But, a 4-digit case is quite something to me, even knowing inflation and the state of everything. How good is it? Is the premium the appellation or actual quality? A quarterback marketing thing?
I have been around the old site to have had some of the first offerings. Tyās field blend will forever be the reason I got hooked. I have a limited budget, as everyone does. Sometimes I had the funds to score true gems! (Scott Harvey Cattedrale Magnums, lucky) However, I donā drink wines that even sniff 100 a bottle unless I received on here and they have appreciated. See above luck. And Crucible. Oh man, that is an entire short novel of how good.
@pmarin@TimW Easily done. Minimum 4-digits is $1,000. Divide that by 12 and you have 84 dollar bottles. That is spendy, way above my league, but happens everyday. I questioned if the fact Drew Bledsoe, noted viticulturist, sommelier, winemaker who in his off-time, played a little football was the reason for the price vs. quality.
Todayās dollar is what it is. I cannot spend 100 dollars on a bottle of wine, let alone a case. I have had the luck of, as aforementioned, scoring ridiculously valued wines. And I can count on one hand the time where I would seriously recommend someone plonk down 3 figures on 750ml. Like, this was beyond anything I would expect.
Yea yea, I donāt have a corporate expense account and wouldnāt know much about European wine and that limit is laughably low to true wine connoisseurs.
@KNmeh7@pmarin@TimW
Meh.
You donāt need to spend a C note to get fantastic wine, obviously. And what a bottle of wine is āworthā is not exactly objective.
And if you can get $100 bottles for $60 here, then whatās it worth?
@KNmeh7@pmarin I get that @KNmeh7! Iāve never had a $100 bottleā¦probably not even a $50 bottle. Iāve never spent more than probably $28/bottle here. And most that I buy are way lessā¦probably averaging < $15/bottle here. The $15 bottle I buy here is likely going to compare to a $30 bottle from my local grocery. And Iāve bought $8 bottles here that punch way above that price. I would not spend anywhere near $100 for a bottle either! This is the reason I frequent Casematesā¦good wine at a significant discount. There have been wines Iāve bought here that are fantastic at a significant discount, but Iāve never pulled the trigger on one of the premium ones. I also question whether a $100 bottle would be worth it.
@klezman@KNmeh7@pmarin@TimW My favorite transformation is how a $20 bottle of wine poorly stored transforms itself into a $60 bottle of wine in every restaurant across America. Then the person opening it expects 20% for opening it.
@forlich@klezman@KNmeh7@pmarin@TimW I absolutely hate ordering wine in a restaurant now (thanks Casemates), I just wonāt do it
Have a bottle out in the carā¦
@forlich@klezman@KNmeh7@pmarin@TimW Sighā¦. It is certainly true that restaurant wine lists continue to disappoint, even with the oceans of drinkable, reasonably priced wine out thereā¦. In my experience, over the past 60 years of restaraunt dining, the middle third of a āregularā wine list (not a reserve list many with $XXXX bottles, which I will usually ignore) will almost always provide the best valuesā¦ that is, the best wines for the priceā¦not the best wines, not the best pricesā¦but the least offensive combination. rpm Tourists who have seen my 1982 āNotes on Wineā will recall this long has been my advice and I have seen nothing since the first Tour in 2008 has given me any reason to modify my viewā¦.
That said, I have on rare occasions splurged for an expensive bottle that was fully matureā¦for example a 1997 Corison Kronos Cabernet in an NYC restaurant on our anniversary in 2017ā¦.
day 2
ā¦ not picking up menthol, but maybe a bit of my grandfatherās pipe tobacco, no, not that either, but it is a great memoryā¦back to whatever it was we were ranting, er, talking aboutā¦oh yeah, Icon day twoā¦nothing crazy to report, seems to be a bit a rounder and brighter. Not as coarse, no degradation at all.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations).
Reds for Fatherās Day - $45 = 13.03%
2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot, Walla Walla Valley
Tasting Notes
Walla Walla Valley
Vintage Note
2018 Davey & Browne Cabernet Sauvignon, McLaren Vale, Australia
Tasting Notes
Winemaking
Specs
Whatās Included
4-bottles:
Case:
Price Comparison
$570.00/Case for 6x 2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot, Walla Walla Valley at Waterbrook Winery & 6x 2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot, Walla Walla Valley(not for sale online)
About The Winery
Waterbrook Winery
Davey & Browne
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, ND, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, Jun 16 - Monday, Jun 20
Reds for Fatherās Day
4 bottles for $114.99 $28.75/bottle + $2/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $299.99 $25/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2018 Icon by Waterbrook Estate Merlot
2018 Davey & Browne Cabernet Sauvignon
Reviews you say? I generally post well regarded undeniably accurate musings from those on high in the
world of wine tasting wisdom. But today I give you a glimpse of a wine from no one other than moi.
So get your pitching arms limbered up and your maters ready. I received a note from Alice wondering if we were available for a last minute package arriving yesterday for rattage today. Absolutely bring it on! So yesterday afternoon UPS shows, in the box is a bottle of 2018 Icon by Waterbrook Merlot.
Iām a bit familiar with Waterbrook wines but not the Icon series. Tossed it in the fridge a time or two before popping. A peek at the bottle shows no sediment, so into the glass and also a slow pour of 1/2 into the decanter for a little air and the other 1/2 remaining in the bottle for a little A/B comparison but there was no real appreciable difference over the evening. Opening temp was 60 Ā°F. Color medium ruby, not transparent, not opaque. I like the nose, earthy, milk chocolate, a spice that Iām probably wrong but lavender came to mind. A little leggy. A sip from Riedel Vinum Bordeaux and thereās definitely a nice spice component, raspberry, I wrote down complex, kind of gritty, good acidity, the tannins are certainly there but not overpowering, medium long finish. Not a cabby merlot. I like this quite a bit.
My bride says initial blackberry nose, dark cherry flavor, tannic but approachable, fruit forward but not jam.
As the night progresses she picks up raspberry, tannins resolving a bit, coming together, nicely balanced.
She prefers this to the 2017 Whitehall Lane Cabernet we were also enjoying. I liked both, they are totally different
animals. About 1/3 of the bottle went into a .375 with a screwcap into the fridge for sometime today. Itās a two
day offer so not feeling compelled to have with my bagelā¦
Oh, kept it simple. Wine was either on itās own or dinner was Flannery 30 day shortloin tails, lightly sauteed fresh picked asparagus with a little shaved pecorino and a baked russet. The wine certainly enjoyed the combination. The pic is the tails before they hit the charcoal, I really like these little morsels.
Cheers and thanks for the opportunity!
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fwiw
@kaolis Thanks for the review and photos. Now I had to look up Flannery shortloin tales and found their website. Looks quite fascinating. Never had that sort of thing. Didnāt even know it existed.
I see their contact is San Rafael CA. Is that where they actually are based? Meaning probably North Marin or Sonoma county stock? I was born there (San Rafael is listed on my birth certificate). So probably I should try these someday(?). Maybe to share with my mother on her upcoming 94th birthday. Since I have her to thank for being born there.
@kaolis @pmarin love love love this review. and thanks for the āon highā reviewās you post. sent just before summer shipping (i have a quirky sense of humor
)
San Rafael is 25 minutes from my door. need to call on those Flannery cats. happy birthday to pmarinās mom. 94!
Ok, looked around after the fact, not much out in the ether but of course there is at least one Wine Enthusiast reviewā¦
The Icon:
89 Points. This 100% Merlot offers aromas of fresh raspberry, herb and spice, followed by whiffs of green pepper and medicine that grow over time. Ripe red fruit and chocolate flavors follow, with a slightly pasty feel. SPS 9/1/21
https://www.winemag.com/buying-guide/waterbrook-2018-icon-estate-merlot-walla-walla-valley-wa/
once againā¦ fwiw
@kaolis
āand medicineā
What in the hell? Wine Enthusiast. That isnāt even a descriptor that makes anyone know. Medicine like what? A crushed or pill that sits in your mouth too long and has that filler taste? Cough syrup? Mentholā¦ menthol is the word you were looking for you overpaid slug. Or, eucalyptus if it is a 50+ SRP.
I own multiple unabridged dictionaries (my better half works at a book store) that you could bludgen a man or stop a bullet. My favorite thesaurus, sorry, Roget, is āhttps://www.amazon.com/Selective-Thesaurus-Extraordinarily-Literate-Reference/dp/0062700162ā
It started out as I jokingly commented years ago, but, seriously, what does it take to be a wine reviewer these days?
My favorite offenders are pain grille. That is toast. Literally put yeast into wheat, give it a day, then put it on fire. That is what you get. We donāt need a french term.
It has a hint reminiscent of an olive. Oh no! It needs to be a Castelvetrano olive. (Again, assuming the SRP is in the hundreds and the reviewer gets it gratis.)
I an an attorney, live next door to a freelance writer. My better halfās best friend is a copy editor. Wineries, feel free to send me wines and I will pick the most wildly obscure and fancy descriptors for your $10 bottle. It isnāt a mushroom, hell, it isnāt a truffle, it will be a white alba truffle.
For example: Label says: Bold and rich, this 100% Merlot showcases aromatics of (unclear) cedar and leather, continuing with deep blackberry on the palate.
Me: Expressing Merlot to its fullest extent, this 100% varietal showcases a proud and bold expression of the grape. It is layered with deep, brooding fruit taste. Imagine walking through wild bramble in an untouched forest, and picking berries. This is that wine.
This childhood memory is only enhanced by the subtle notes of cedar. It will remind you of your grandfatherās cigar box, or foraging morels in the Pacific Northwest.
Seriously, winemakers, I am not joking. I can write the craziest things wealthy people go for.
@KNmeh7 @kaolis you should both be writers for the wine world
@kaolis @KNmeh7 @ttboy23 I think the real play would be to get going on a new script.
They could write, produce and co-star something like, Oh I dunno, say āBeSidewaysā
Another bit of info: the 2019 ICON Merlot is offered on the Waterbrook site right now for $33.75. (This offer is for the 2018)
https://waterbrook.orderport.net/product-details/2725/2019-ICON-Merlot
Walla Walla is the home to some super-premium producers. Some of them I got to know from offers on the āold siteā and a visit to Walla Walla a while back. (Northstar and Reininger come to mind).
Walla Walla Valley AVA tends to be very limited due to small region and a major freeze that damaged many existing vineyards about 20 years ago. You will see a lot of names based in Walla Walla but most āvolumeā wines will be the much broader āColumbia Valleyā designation.
So most actual Walla Walla wines will be made in smaller quantities (as the 300 cases of this one) and sold at a significant premium over most other Washington State red wines. Price-wise, Waterbrook would be at the lower-end of that range.
Also Drew Bledsoe has a winery (Doubleback) there that sells in very limited quantities on allocation, but I havenāt felt ready to spring for the 4-digit price of a case yet to start on the path to being a āVIP.ā I guess he has a lot of rich friends in the football businessā¦
@pmarin
I know we get great deals here. Thanks to all! But, a 4-digit case is quite something to me, even knowing inflation and the state of everything. How good is it? Is the premium the appellation or actual quality? A quarterback marketing thing?
I have been around the old site to have had some of the first offerings. Tyās field blend will forever be the reason I got hooked. I have a limited budget, as everyone does. Sometimes I had the funds to score true gems! (Scott Harvey Cattedrale Magnums, lucky) However, I donā drink wines that even sniff 100 a bottle unless I received on here and they have appreciated. See above luck. And Crucible. Oh man, that is an entire short novel of how good.
@KNmeh7 @pmarin ā4-digit caseā??
@KNmeh7 @pmarin @TimW i.e. a case costing more than $1000
@pmarin @TimW Easily done. Minimum 4-digits is $1,000. Divide that by 12 and you have 84 dollar bottles. That is spendy, way above my league, but happens everyday. I questioned if the fact Drew Bledsoe, noted viticulturist, sommelier, winemaker who in his off-time, played a little football was the reason for the price vs. quality.
Todayās dollar is what it is. I cannot spend 100 dollars on a bottle of wine, let alone a case. I have had the luck of, as aforementioned, scoring ridiculously valued wines. And I can count on one hand the time where I would seriously recommend someone plonk down 3 figures on 750ml. Like, this was beyond anything I would expect.
Yea yea, I donāt have a corporate expense account and wouldnāt know much about European wine and that limit is laughably low to true wine connoisseurs.
@KNmeh7 @pmarin @TimW
Meh.
You donāt need to spend a C note to get fantastic wine, obviously. And what a bottle of wine is āworthā is not exactly objective.
And if you can get $100 bottles for $60 here, then whatās it worth?
@KNmeh7 @pmarin I get that @KNmeh7! Iāve never had a $100 bottleā¦probably not even a $50 bottle. Iāve never spent more than probably $28/bottle here. And most that I buy are way lessā¦probably averaging < $15/bottle here. The $15 bottle I buy here is likely going to compare to a $30 bottle from my local grocery. And Iāve bought $8 bottles here that punch way above that price. I would not spend anywhere near $100 for a bottle either! This is the reason I frequent Casematesā¦good wine at a significant discount.
There have been wines Iāve bought here that are fantastic at a significant discount, but Iāve never pulled the trigger on one of the premium ones. I also question whether a $100 bottle would be worth it.
@KNmeh7 @pmarin āDrew Bledsoe, noted viticulturist, sommelier, winemaker who in his off-time, played a little footballā¦ā
@klezman @KNmeh7 @pmarin @TimW My favorite transformation is how a $20 bottle of wine poorly stored transforms itself into a $60 bottle of wine in every restaurant across America. Then the person opening it expects 20% for opening it.
@forlich @klezman @KNmeh7 @pmarin @TimW I absolutely hate ordering wine in a restaurant now (thanks Casemates), I just wonāt do it
Have a bottle out in the carā¦
@forlich @klezman @KNmeh7 @pmarin @TimW Sighā¦. It is certainly true that restaurant wine lists continue to disappoint, even with the oceans of drinkable, reasonably priced wine out thereā¦. In my experience, over the past 60 years of restaraunt dining, the middle third of a āregularā wine list (not a reserve list many with $XXXX bottles, which I will usually ignore) will almost always provide the best valuesā¦ that is, the best wines for the priceā¦not the best wines, not the best pricesā¦but the least offensive combination. rpm Tourists who have seen my 1982 āNotes on Wineā will recall this long has been my advice and I have seen nothing since the first Tour in 2008 has given me any reason to modify my viewā¦.
That said, I have on rare occasions splurged for an expensive bottle that was fully matureā¦for example a 1997 Corison Kronos Cabernet in an NYC restaurant on our anniversary in 2017ā¦.
day 2
ā¦ not picking up menthol, but maybe a bit of my grandfatherās pipe tobacco, no, not that either, but it is a great memoryā¦back to whatever it was we were ranting, er, talking aboutā¦oh yeah, Icon day twoā¦nothing crazy to report, seems to be a bit a rounder and brighter. Not as coarse, no degradation at all.
Happy Fatherās day everyone, but not you Ohio.
@jasonjm donāt fret. Anyone in Franklin county and all points in betweenā¦can you spell Findlay? Lol
I got your back! Next trip down is July.
This a pricey purchase, with shipping delays these days is summer shipping in place? (ice packs)
@dianefreda Summer Shipping thread linked up.
@dianefreda @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Summer shipping is expedited but no ice packs right? Or has there been ice pack options in the past?
@dianefreda @kaolis @rjquillin correct
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations).
Reds for Fatherās Day - $45 = 13.03%