2017 Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel, Amador County
Tasting Notes
92 Points, Wine Enthusiast
Fruit forward, rich full flavors expressing both the varietal and the Amador Terroir. This complex wine has notes of bright raspberry, white pepper and a full pleasant mouthfeel.
Vineyard & Winemaker Notes
Amador County is extremely well suited to Zinfandel. Zinfandel has been grown in the Amador County Gold Rush area for over 150 years. This particular Zinfandel is sourced with fruit from Amador County’s Bowman Vineyard, York Vineyard, and the Chapman Vineyard.
2017 was the first full vintage no longer being affected by the previous drought. Good winter rains produced flavorful and healthy crops. The late harvest allowed the grapes to ripen long into the fall developing full complex flavored wines.
Specs
Vintage: 2017
Blend: 81% Zinfandel, 19% Syrah
Appellation: Amador County
Cooperage: 19 months in French oak
Bottling Date: 7/28/19
Alcohol: 14.5%
2018 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Zinfandel, Amador County
Tasting Notes
90 Points, Wine Enthusiast
A complex wine due to the Zinfandel in the wine coming from two great vineyards. Fruit forward, rich full flavors expressing both the varietal and the Amador Terroir. This complex wine has bright of cherry/berry fruit, a full tannin structure with a long finish.
Vineyard & Winemaker Notes
Amador County is extremely well suited to Zinfandel. Zinfandel has been grown in the Amador County Gold Rush area for over 150 years. Vineyards sources are the Bowman Vineyard and York Vineyard.
Food Pairing Notes
This bright, refreshing and complex Zinfandel pairs well with roasted and grilled meats and sweet and savory sauces.
Specs
Vintage: 2018
Varietal: Zinfandel
Appellation: Amador County
pH: 3.36
Aging: 16 Months French Oak
Bottling Date: 7/29/2019
Residual Sugar: Dry <0.2%
Alcohol: 14.5%
Production: 394 cases
What’s Included
4-bottles:
2x 2017 Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel, Amador County
2x 2018 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Zinfandel, Amador County
Case:
6x 2017 Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel, Amador County
6x 2018 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Zinfandel, Amador County
After decades of creating and crafting premium wines for wineries like Santino and Folie a Deux – and putting Amador County on the map as a world-class appellation – Scott Harvey launched his own winery in 2004. With decades of winemaking experience on two continents, it’s no wonder his wines have become an immediate sensation. It’s an overnight success 35 years in the making. (Oh, and Scott’s not too shabby with a pen, either.)
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, KS, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, OH, OR, PA, SC, TN, TX, VA, WA, WI, WY
@ilCesare Hi Cesare, a question about this: the second link takes us to the CT page for the 2018 Griffin Society Old Vine Reserve. Scott’s site shows both that wine and the 2018 J&S Reserve, which looks to be the bottle in this sale. However I don’t see the latter listed in CT, at least not in the 2018 vintage. OK that doesn’t sound like a question, need to put my question in the form of a question. Here’s my question: What is the meaning of this?
@ilCesare@InFrom@ScottHarveyWine
I think the listing/link looks correct, but there were three or four incorrect bottle shots, one for Griffin and two or three for the 1869 from those that seem to have no clue what they are drinking…
I just reported them and hopefully CT will remove them.
@ilCesare@rjquillin@ScottHarveyWine Funny, when I go to the link it’s for the 2018 Scott Harvey Zinfandel Old Vine Reserve, not the J&S. And yes, there are pics of more than one label as you click through the shots.
My thought was just to add the 2018 vintage to the listing for the J&S, b/c that doesn’t appear to exist.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations)
Scott Harvey Wines Zinfandels - $40 = 16.66%
I’m so overstocked on Zin right now, but this is another great deal from Scott. I drank a 2017 red label last week (note, I usually don’t touch most Zins until they’re at least 5 years old):
I expected this to not seem too young, but it still was. Needed a lot of air to have that leathery young Zin thing blow off. Aside from that, it’s classic Scott Harvey red label - fruit forward, decently structured, nicely acidic, and great value when it’s under $20/bottle.
Is there an error in Vineyard and Winemaker notes? The 2017 notes say, “2017 was the first full vintage no longer being affected by the previous drought.” The 2018 notes say, “2018 was the first full vintage no longer being affected by the previous drought.” How could that be for both years in the same county?
@ejrunion The Scott Harvey website has the 2017 blurb listed on both wines descriptions. Most likely an error. So maybe the editor here tried to correct that error by correcting 2017 to 2018, resulting in…an error. So in fact it was an error to correct that error, because, well, as I said, it resulted in another error in error.
Hi Everyone, The 2017 is the first full year after the drought, not the 2018. I think your speculation is correct. What I have in my notes for the 2018 vintage is “Normal rain, later bud break. No frost. Hot summer, but no real heat spikes during ripening. Lots of fire and potential smoke taint in mid-summer. Harvest 10 days later than the 2017. Large crops.” What I have for the 2017 is “Heavy winter rains. No frost. Regular to late bud break. Good growth. Harvest is a little late. No harvest rains. Produced good flavorful wines. Regular to regular plus yields.”
The 2017:
92 Points. This wine is full in body and rather subtle in flavor at first, but it gradually reveals complex mineral, earth, tea and tobacco nuances that keep going through the finish. It’s not a superripe style, leaning more toward the earthy side of the variety. JG 8/1/20
The 2018:
90 Points. Bold in flavor and big in body, this wine is packed with ripe fruit and cedar, balsam and beef flavors that are well concentrated and nicely supported by moderate tannins. JG 3/1/21
@kaolis A note from Reverse Wine Snob on the 2017 where it was for sale 10/2020:
This wine is 81% Zinfandel from the Bowman Vineyard and 19% Syrah from the York and Chapman Vineyards. It spends 19 months in French oak and has just 2 g/L of residual sugar.
Hi Everyone, Wonderful to be back on Casemates. On vacation today on the Oregon coast in Depoe Bay. Going out deep sea fishing now. Will be back in about five hours to get on the forum. Cheers.
Scott’s wines are an auto-buy for me. I really want to drink his Zins but I can’t bring myself to open the ones I have… yet. Oh… and happy belated Scott and Mollie. Thanks for the very cool offering
@ScottHarveyWine
Congrats on the haul of fish. We have been pairing PN with salmon for a long time, and recently paired some seafood with Grenache by suggestion of Clark Smith, but I have never thought to pair fish with Zinfandel. How do you prepare the fish to complement the wine?
@pseudogourmet98@ScottHarveyWine Zinfandel with charcoal-grilled salmon is traditional in the Northern California wine country. One of my oenologist great uncles (who loved Zin with salmon) said he first drank Zinfandel with salmon in Healdsburg, in Sonoma County, before 1910.
We are more than overstocked right now, but I keep seeing great comments about SH wines. Anyone on here in the Green Bay, WI area who would like to split this or connect on future offerings?
@pupator I literally have NO space. None! That said, I could be convinced to take 2-3 if you want to get rid of some. Next trip to Atlanta isn’t until May, but can always scoot up to Charlotte for a wine/ikea trip.
@InFrom I just ordered a case…and looks like it would arrive mid-May and I’m out of town at a family wedding. I hate to miss out on some SH–I am just north of NYC and would go in on four with you.
In for a case, although more than I need but too good a deal to pass up. Anyone in the SF Bay Area want to get in on 4 or 6, whisper my way!
/giphy unoccupied-skilled-hedgehog
Scott’s Zinfandels are old school - balanced wines with amazing structural integrity, coherent pure fruit that appeal at the first taste but always the goal is to make you sorry that it’s gone. They age wonderfully for decades. It’s iritating to me that ever since that keg of Zin he donated to our wedding reception, my wife RuthE loves Scott’s Zin more than mine. Watch out, Jana!
@winesmith Hi Clark,
Thanks for the input. Let’s do some trading. Had a 2014 Zin keg at the wedding for he daughter of one of our tasting room team members last week. Was holding up well.
@rjquillin@ScottHarveyWine We’re talking 15.5 gallons, or about 6.5 cases. That banner is an error.
I’m not a lab-rat and I have not tasted these specific wines. I don’t have to. Thirty vintages into Scott’s wines, I know what he is reliably capable of.
@InFrom@ScottHarveyWine@winesmith
Nope, not officially, rather faux (as stated), afaik, just couldn’t let the comment go without some manner of acknowledgment.
@rjquillin@ScottHarveyWine@winesmith A few years ago I saw what I thought was a magnum of ~12 year old Mountain Selection Zin online for a good price, and bought it. Went to pick it up, lo and behold it was a 3 litre! Good price turned into excellent price!
molarchae and I served it a year or so later at our pre-wedding dinner and it was phenomenal. In case anybody somehow needed more evidence that Scott’s wines are for the ages.
Yeah I was curious about that too. I know kegs come in a variety of sizes. Perhaps someone’s memory is a little foggy from too much wine?
Either way, WE aren’t getting any kegs. This isn’t Kegmates after all haha. But who knows, WD might be able to work some magic if there was enough demand for such a thing. (I doubt there is.)
@kawichris650@rjquillin@ScottHarveyWine
I’m pretty sure the keg at my wedding was the beer keg size, i.e. 15.5 gallons. I know I was able to bottle two cases of leftovers. On the other hand, any attorney would bring out on cross-examination that I was quite high on life and not entirely sober, so my reliability as a wittness is questionable. There were 350 witnesses present, but I’m sure recollections will vary.
I imagine Scott can be taken at his word concerning the other wedding keg.
Hi Everyone, Back on today. Still in Depoe Bay. Wonderful place. Tasting some great Oregon Pinot Noir and Pinot Gris. Loving all the comments and questions. keep them coming. Cheers, Scott
I have a bunch of Scott’s Zins, so I have to pass…this time. Everything Scott makes is fabulous! I do miss my February trips to meet up with fellow wooters and having dinner with Scott and Jana.
@deadlyapp@winedavid49
As a perhaps interesting aside, the box mine arrived in seemed too tall. There was easily enough room for an entire additional layer of three bottles and the pulp clearly had been ‘disturbed’ in shipping.
Now I want to look to verify there was actually four layers…
@rjquillin@Winedavid49 I don’t think mine had that issue - however it’s hard to say since all the cardboard inside disintegrated upon removal. I’m surprised that there wasn’t a delivery exception - usually when liquids break they return it to sender.
@deadlyapp@InFrom@rjquillin@Winedavid49
The boxes have been crap recently. I can’t even stack them anymore, they bulge and collapse under the weight of anything on top of them. Today I received a case of the Cremant and am lucky none of those bottles were broken as the interior packaging was all broken up (much like the above pic) and the bottles were compressed in the box.
Crap box plus crap inserts = double crap. Please go back to sturdier packaging!
@chipgreen@deadlyapp@InFrom@rjquillin@Winedavid49 Same experience here- seems like a change from the grey very stiff inserts to this brown mushy cardboard that collapses. My Harvey Zin shipment came yesterday, every layer had collapsed and there was a ton of empty room in the top of the box. No broken bottles for me.
2017 Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel, Amador County
Tasting Notes
92 Points, Wine Enthusiast
Vineyard & Winemaker Notes
Specs
2018 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Zinfandel, Amador County
Tasting Notes
90 Points, Wine Enthusiast
Vineyard & Winemaker Notes
Food Pairing Notes
Specs
What’s Included
4-bottles:
Case:
Price Comparison
$418.43/Case at Scott Harvey Wines for 6x 2017 Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel, Amador County, and 6x 2018 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Zinfandel, Amador County
About The Winery
Available States
AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, KS, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NV, NH, NM, NY, NC, OH, OR, PA, SC, TN, TX, VA, WA, WI, WY
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, May 13 - Monday, May 17
Scott Harvey Wines Zinfandels
4 bottles for $79.99 $20/bottle + $2/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $199.99 $16.67/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2017 Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel
2018 Scott Harvey J&S Reserve Zinfandel
@ilCesare Hi Cesare, a question about this: the second link takes us to the CT page for the 2018 Griffin Society Old Vine Reserve. Scott’s site shows both that wine and the 2018 J&S Reserve, which looks to be the bottle in this sale. However I don’t see the latter listed in CT, at least not in the 2018 vintage. OK that doesn’t sound like a question, need to put my question in the form of a question. Here’s my question: What is the meaning of this?
@ScottHarveyWine
@ilCesare @InFrom @ScottHarveyWine
I think the listing/link looks correct, but there were three or four incorrect bottle shots, one for Griffin and two or three for the 1869 from those that seem to have no clue what they are drinking…
I just reported them and hopefully CT will remove them.
@ilCesare @rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine Funny, when I go to the link it’s for the 2018 Scott Harvey Zinfandel Old Vine Reserve, not the J&S. And yes, there are pics of more than one label as you click through the shots.
My thought was just to add the 2018 vintage to the listing for the J&S, b/c that doesn’t appear to exist.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: Tax & Shipping not included in savings calculations)
Scott Harvey Wines Zinfandels - $40 = 16.66%
I’m so overstocked on Zin right now, but this is another great deal from Scott. I drank a 2017 red label last week (note, I usually don’t touch most Zins until they’re at least 5 years old):
I expected this to not seem too young, but it still was. Needed a lot of air to have that leathery young Zin thing blow off. Aside from that, it’s classic Scott Harvey red label - fruit forward, decently structured, nicely acidic, and great value when it’s under $20/bottle.
I miss the days when SH shipped to NJ. Any eastern PA folks interested in a split? I suppose that goes for NY as well.
@hscottk Give Jana a call for those states not on the list. We’ll honor the same deal. 415 264-5641.
Is there an error in Vineyard and Winemaker notes? The 2017 notes say, “2017 was the first full vintage no longer being affected by the previous drought.” The 2018 notes say, “2018 was the first full vintage no longer being affected by the previous drought.” How could that be for both years in the same county?
@ejrunion The Scott Harvey website has the 2017 blurb listed on both wines descriptions. Most likely an error. So maybe the editor here tried to correct that error by correcting 2017 to 2018, resulting in…an error. So in fact it was an error to correct that error, because, well, as I said, it resulted in another error in error.
And anyway, isn’t Amador always under a drought?
@ejrunion
Hi Everyone, The 2017 is the first full year after the drought, not the 2018. I think your speculation is correct. What I have in my notes for the 2018 vintage is “Normal rain, later bud break. No frost. Hot summer, but no real heat spikes during ripening. Lots of fire and potential smoke taint in mid-summer. Harvest 10 days later than the 2017. Large crops.” What I have for the 2017 is “Heavy winter rains. No frost. Regular to late bud break. Good growth. Harvest is a little late. No harvest rains. Produced good flavorful wines. Regular to regular plus yields.”
and those WE reviews…
The 2017:
92 Points. This wine is full in body and rather subtle in flavor at first, but it gradually reveals complex mineral, earth, tea and tobacco nuances that keep going through the finish. It’s not a superripe style, leaning more toward the earthy side of the variety. JG 8/1/20
https://www.winemag.com/buying-guide/scott-harvey-2017-mountain-selection-zinfandel-amador-county/
The 2018:
90 Points. Bold in flavor and big in body, this wine is packed with ripe fruit and cedar, balsam and beef flavors that are well concentrated and nicely supported by moderate tannins. JG 3/1/21
https://www.winemag.com/buying-guide/scott-harvey-2018-old-vine-reserve-zinfandel-amador-county/
fwiw
@kaolis A note from Reverse Wine Snob on the 2017 where it was for sale 10/2020:
This wine is 81% Zinfandel from the Bowman Vineyard and 19% Syrah from the York and Chapman Vineyards. It spends 19 months in French oak and has just 2 g/L of residual sugar.
Been buying SH since the days of OLD WOOT. Even met them on vacation out in Napa. A real pleasure, and great wines besides that!
Haven’t found this locally for a while, and certainly not at this price. Definitely in on this deal!
Hi Everyone, Wonderful to be back on Casemates. On vacation today on the Oregon coast in Depoe Bay. Going out deep sea fishing now. Will be back in about five hours to get on the forum. Cheers.
@ScottHarveyWine Hi Scott, Welcome to my neighborhood. Sent you a whisper.
Scott’s wines are an auto-buy for me. I really want to drink his Zins but I can’t bring myself to open the ones I have… yet.
Oh… and happy belated Scott and Mollie. Thanks for the very cool offering 
/giphy panoramic-soggy-angle
Back from fishing. Caught our limits of ling cod and rock fish. Beautiful day on the Pacific Ocean. Fresh fish with Zinfandel tonight.
Cheers,
Scott
@ScottHarveyWine
Congrats on the haul of fish. We have been pairing PN with salmon for a long time, and recently paired some seafood with Grenache by suggestion of Clark Smith, but I have never thought to pair fish with Zinfandel. How do you prepare the fish to complement the wine?
@pseudogourmet98 @ScottHarveyWine Zinfandel with charcoal-grilled salmon is traditional in the Northern California wine country. One of my oenologist great uncles (who loved Zin with salmon) said he first drank Zinfandel with salmon in Healdsburg, in Sonoma County, before 1910.
@pseudogourmet98 @rpm @ScottHarveyWine
I’d not have thought.
Just did an '08 Roessler with some salmon and pasta this evening.
@pseudogourmet98 Zinfandel goes well with Picante or hot dishes. So, prepare the fish in a hot Indian curry or Mexican fish tacos.
Scott Harvey? Autobuy. Consistently great value, especially with the zins.
/giphy substantial-bendy-air
Ugh. So much torture. 4 seems like too few and 12 won’t fit in the fridge.
We are more than overstocked right now, but I keep seeing great comments about SH wines. Anyone on here in the Green Bay, WI area who would like to split this or connect on future offerings?
Any of the Atlanta crew interested in a split?
/giphy peremptory-dangerous-drink
@pupator I’d be in. I’m way too overstocked for a full case.
@Springbank sounds good. Do you want 4 or 6? I’m happy with 6 or 8.
@pupator 6 is fine if there is no one else in.
@Springbank 10-4 Will let you know when they’re in and we can meet at Pontoon.
@pupator Sounds good.
@pupator I literally have NO space. None! That said, I could be convinced to take 2-3 if you want to get rid of some. Next trip to Atlanta isn’t until May, but can always scoot up to Charlotte for a wine/ikea trip.
@veevandyke I’m happy to get 6 from this deal, so I’ll save you from yourself this go round. Of course, I can’t stop you from ordering your own case…
This is an rpmAUTOBUY
Scott is one of the very best Zinfandel winemakers active in California!
Any NYC action? I’d take part of a case – preferably four, but I’m flexible.
@InFrom I have overbought this month, but I could be convinced to take 4
@InVinoVeritas Let’s see if anyone else bites.
@InFrom I just ordered a case…and looks like it would arrive mid-May and I’m out of town at a family wedding. I hate to miss out on some SH–I am just north of NYC and would go in on four with you.
@Maurakid are you in Westchester? Whereabouts?
Will you be able to have the delivery held at ups while you’re away? Or are you thinking of canceling?
@InFrom @Maurakid
Maura why don’t you cancel. I will order and I can hold bottles for a few months.
/giphy ungracious-chancy-clock
@InFrom I would love that. I did cancel my earlier order but would be good for four+ if you’re still willing to share!
@Maurakid Looks like we’re each in for four with @InVinoVeritas. We’ll have to figure out the logistics among us.
Sedentary tasteful coconut. Oh yes, me zinfriends.
BOOOO! On another wine not to ship to Indiana!
@kookie00 Give Jana a call. She’ll take care of you.
In for a case, although more than I need but too good a deal to pass up. Anyone in the SF Bay Area want to get in on 4 or 6, whisper my way!
/giphy unoccupied-skilled-hedgehog
Scott’s Zinfandels are old school - balanced wines with amazing structural integrity, coherent pure fruit that appeal at the first taste but always the goal is to make you sorry that it’s gone. They age wonderfully for decades. It’s iritating to me that ever since that keg of Zin he donated to our wedding reception, my wife RuthE loves Scott’s Zin more than mine. Watch out, Jana!
@winesmith Hi Clark,
Thanks for the input. Let’s do some trading. Had a 2014 Zin keg at the wedding for he daughter of one of our tasting room team members last week. Was holding up well.
@ScottHarveyWine @winesmith
For the curious here, what is the capacity of a keg?
@rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine @winesmith Is Clark really a lab rat today?
@rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine We’re talking 15.5 gallons, or about 6.5 cases. That banner is an error.
I’m not a lab-rat and I have not tasted these specific wines. I don’t have to. Thirty vintages into Scott’s wines, I know what he is reliably capable of.
@InFrom @ScottHarveyWine @winesmith
Nope, not officially, rather faux (as stated), afaik, just couldn’t let the comment go without some manner of acknowledgment.
@rjquillin @winesmith 20 liters or 5.2 gallons
@rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine @winesmith A few years ago I saw what I thought was a magnum of ~12 year old Mountain Selection Zin online for a good price, and bought it. Went to pick it up, lo and behold it was a 3 litre! Good price turned into excellent price!
molarchae and I served it a year or so later at our pre-wedding dinner and it was phenomenal. In case anybody somehow needed more evidence that Scott’s wines are for the ages.
@klezman @ScottHarveyWine @winesmith
Was that the '04 Mountain we both ended up with?
@klezman @rjquillin @winesmith 95% from the Bowman Vineyard planted in 1974. Balance is 5% Syrah from the Ryan Vineyard.
@ScottHarveyWine said
@winesmith said
Now I’m ~really~ confused.
@rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine @winesmith
Yeah I was curious about that too. I know kegs come in a variety of sizes. Perhaps someone’s memory is a little foggy from too much wine?
Either way, WE aren’t getting any kegs. This isn’t Kegmates after all haha. But who knows, WD might be able to work some magic if there was enough demand for such a thing. (I doubt there is.)
@kawichris650 @rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine
I’m pretty sure the keg at my wedding was the beer keg size, i.e. 15.5 gallons. I know I was able to bottle two cases of leftovers. On the other hand, any attorney would bring out on cross-examination that I was quite high on life and not entirely sober, so my reliability as a wittness is questionable. There were 350 witnesses present, but I’m sure recollections will vary.
I imagine Scott can be taken at his word concerning the other wedding keg.
@kawichris650 @rjquillin @winesmith It was 20 liters. we never bottled 15.5 gallon kegs. Must of been a good time. I’m sorry i missed it.
@kawichris650 @rjquillin @ScottHarveyWine @winesmith now #kegmates I could get behind!!
I’m overstocked but open to share a case in Las Vegas area, even if there are two more interested we can do 4 each one.
Hi Everyone, Back on today. Still in Depoe Bay. Wonderful place. Tasting some great Oregon Pinot Noir and Pinot Gris. Loving all the comments and questions. keep them coming. Cheers, Scott
Perfect timing. Down to my last bottle of SH.
/giphy tall-wiry-fish
Darn you Scott Harvey.
/giphy promiscuous-auspicious-minister
Always up for a case when the Scott Harvey Zins are on sale. Glad to see this includes a 2017.
/giphy toothy-magenta-light
@Minnehaha
Unrelated to the wine, but your gif is a great episode of TNG!
@knlprez I was not disappointed when giphy worked its magic. One of my faves as well.
Scott Harvey - autobuy - Just tapped a bottle of the Mountain Barbera over the weekend. Oh my, oh my.
Hoping for a deal on the Mendocino Riesling…hint, hint…summer’s coming!
If Scott’s makin’ it, I’m drinkin’ it
/giphy paltry-adamant-salmon
I have a bunch of Scott’s Zins, so I have to pass…this time. Everything Scott makes is fabulous! I do miss my February trips to meet up with fellow wooters and having dinner with Scott and Jana.
I bought 2 cases, I love your wines. I’ll be drinking the last bottles in 2034 though, your wines age amazingly.
What would you say your best ready to drink wine is for the 2021-23 range available on your site?
Woof. Had an entire bottle break in my case. One of the interior bottles - no idea how it happened.
@deadlyapp @winedavid49
As a perhaps interesting aside, the box mine arrived in seemed too tall. There was easily enough room for an entire additional layer of three bottles and the pulp clearly had been ‘disturbed’ in shipping.
Now I want to look to verify there was actually four layers…
@rjquillin @Winedavid49 I don’t think mine had that issue - however it’s hard to say since all the cardboard inside disintegrated upon removal. I’m surprised that there wasn’t a delivery exception - usually when liquids break they return it to sender.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
@deadlyapp @rjquillin @Winedavid49
@deadlyapp @InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49
The boxes have been crap recently. I can’t even stack them anymore, they bulge and collapse under the weight of anything on top of them. Today I received a case of the Cremant and am lucky none of those bottles were broken as the interior packaging was all broken up (much like the above pic) and the bottles were compressed in the box.
Crap box plus crap inserts = double crap. Please go back to sturdier packaging!
@chipgreen @deadlyapp @InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49 my Latour was the same way when receiving it last night, all inserts were soft and spongy. : (
@chipgreen @deadlyapp @InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49
My box was pretty beat up, too, but no losses.
Can’t say for sure what is happening here, but cardboard (availability and pricing) is just another thing affected by the pandemic.
@chipgreen @deadlyapp @InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Same experience here- seems like a change from the grey very stiff inserts to this brown mushy cardboard that collapses. My Harvey Zin shipment came yesterday, every layer had collapsed and there was a ton of empty room in the top of the box. No broken bottles for me.
Do we recommend decanting these? Thanks