similar. with wine.woot we waited until the end of the offer to order the wine from the winery. with Casemates we are trying to predict the volumes and start pick n pack sooner. should see better transit times. do i have to talk about summer in January? actually, we are evaluating summer and will advise relatively soon.
I hate to start beating the drums already but as long as kaolis brought it up and while things are still in the planning stages maybe this is the best time to reiterate… I hope Ohio doesn’t end up in the Summer Shipping Dead Zone again.
Things were peachy back in the day, when the refer truck zone-skipped its way to Grove City, OH for summer shipping to the Buckeye state but the eventual cost-cutting measure of dropping the wine off in sweltering St. Louis for the final 48-72 hours of the trip was no bueno.
The additional hub that was added in upstate NY last summer was great for some folks and probably cut the dead zone in half but no shipping to points West of the hub was even more no bueno and seemed like a slap in the face to have the refer truck drive right past us on its way to NY while our wine was still banished to the steamy sauna of St. Louis to begin its final leg of the journey.
As a Floridian CaseMates member, I’d love to hear that the wine would be delivered via refer truck in the Summer. Right now, I don’t dare ship wine after February or before November. I’d buy more wine if I could get it shipped safely during the hot months.
@gemeinschaft79 If FL gets the same treatment it did from wine.woot you will be a happy camper as the wine was shipped to FL via 2nd day air during the summer months, although we are talking early June thru mid-September IIRC.
Perhaps I should have created a “Summer Shipping” thread, but this is here and we’ve already got shipping questions (FedEx) scattered about. Even have a good banter between @edlada and @scottw58 in another thread about how robust wine can be under less than ideal storage and shipping conditions.
To date, I’ve been very pleased, quick deliveries, and styro packaging already for the last two cases this early into the summer shipping window; until today…
SoCal shipping has been an issue discussed in the WW days, especially for shipments that languish over weekends, and holiday weekends in particular. It generally takes two, sometimes three days to get delivery. Great for a Monday or Tuesday shipment, possibly even a Wednesday; I thought the WCC shipping crew got the message stuff coming down here needed to ship early in the week, even if it requires it to be held for a few days in the WCC climate controlled warehouse over a weekend.
Well, that didn’t happen for for that case of Laurel Glen CS that shipped on the 12th. Yeah, a Thursday.
Now sitting on a truck and status “out for delivery” in our lovely 35C (96F) heat this Saturday. Tomorrow is supposed to be a bit cooler at 28, and Monday a nice cool down to 18.
Yeah @winedavid48, sorry to say I’m a bit grumpy about this, to date by far the most expensive offer we’ve had here, for some bottles I may well not consume for years.
@rjquillin
If you ask for something 3,4,5 etc times and it doesn’t change do you think they aren’t listening or at what point do you realize it’s just not the business model here? No one and I mean no one else ships during the summer unless you ask for it to be shipped that I know of and I’m guessing there is a reason for that sorry I try to stay away from this cringe worthy topic but you named me.
@rjquillin We are listening. honestly, we have been so focused on quick turns, and early April is usually so benign that we may have missed this spike in SoCal. Looking at the lows plus the styrofoam, I don’t believe there will be a problem - but I understand the issue and will advise next week on plans going forward.
@rjquillin@Winedavid49
Should be easy for SoCal:
-always ship on a Monday or Tuesday
-if the weather is stupid hot that week in the central valley or SoCal proper, hold off a week or use ice packs
@rjquillin Picked up two deliveries yesterday. The case shipment was in styrofoam, the 6 pack shipment was still cardboard. Had delivered to walgreens for pickup. When I picked up and took it home (sat in store for maybe 2 hours) I checked bottles temp and in styrofoam was ~75°F the cardboard was ~80°F.
Starting to think south Texas order for delivery time is over.
similar. with wine.woot we waited until the end of the offer to order the wine from the winery. with Casemates we are trying to predict the volumes and start pick n pack sooner. should see better transit times. do i have to talk about summer in January?
actually, we are evaluating summer and will advise relatively soon.
@Winedavid49 I’ve definitely noticed quicker deliveries here.
@Winedavid49 I did not mention “summer” anywhere in my post sir!
As someone who only ordered on wine.woots last days… what was the shipping model?
I hate to start beating the drums already but as long as kaolis brought it up and while things are still in the planning stages maybe this is the best time to reiterate… I hope Ohio doesn’t end up in the Summer Shipping Dead Zone again.
Things were peachy back in the day, when the refer truck zone-skipped its way to Grove City, OH for summer shipping to the Buckeye state but the eventual cost-cutting measure of dropping the wine off in sweltering St. Louis for the final 48-72 hours of the trip was no bueno.
The additional hub that was added in upstate NY last summer was great for some folks and probably cut the dead zone in half but no shipping to points West of the hub was even more no bueno and seemed like a slap in the face to have the refer truck drive right past us on its way to NY while our wine was still banished to the steamy sauna of St. Louis to begin its final leg of the journey.
As a Floridian CaseMates member, I’d love to hear that the wine would be delivered via refer truck in the Summer. Right now, I don’t dare ship wine after February or before November. I’d buy more wine if I could get it shipped safely during the hot months.
@gemeinschaft79 If FL gets the same treatment it did from wine.woot you will be a happy camper as the wine was shipped to FL via 2nd day air during the summer months, although we are talking early June thru mid-September IIRC.
Perhaps I should have created a “Summer Shipping” thread, but this is here and we’ve already got shipping questions (FedEx) scattered about. Even have a good banter between @edlada and @scottw58 in another thread about how robust wine can be under less than ideal storage and shipping conditions.
To date, I’ve been very pleased, quick deliveries, and styro packaging already for the last two cases this early into the summer shipping window; until today…
SoCal shipping has been an issue discussed in the WW days, especially for shipments that languish over weekends, and holiday weekends in particular. It generally takes two, sometimes three days to get delivery. Great for a Monday or Tuesday shipment, possibly even a Wednesday; I thought the WCC shipping crew got the message stuff coming down here needed to ship early in the week, even if it requires it to be held for a few days in the WCC climate controlled warehouse over a weekend.
Well, that didn’t happen for for that case of Laurel Glen CS that shipped on the 12th. Yeah, a Thursday.
Now sitting on a truck and status “out for delivery” in our lovely 35C (96F) heat this Saturday. Tomorrow is supposed to be a bit cooler at 28, and Monday a nice cool down to 18.
Yeah @winedavid48, sorry to say I’m a bit grumpy about this, to date by far the most expensive offer we’ve had here, for some bottles I may well not consume for years.
@rjquillin
sorry I try to stay away from this cringe worthy topic but you named me.
If you ask for something 3,4,5 etc times and it doesn’t change do you think they aren’t listening or at what point do you realize it’s just not the business model here? No one and I mean no one else ships during the summer unless you ask for it to be shipped that I know of and I’m guessing there is a reason for that
@rjquillin We are listening. honestly, we have been so focused on quick turns, and early April is usually so benign that we may have missed this spike in SoCal. Looking at the lows plus the styrofoam, I don’t believe there will be a problem - but I understand the issue and will advise next week on plans going forward.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Should be easy for SoCal:
-always ship on a Monday or Tuesday
-if the weather is stupid hot that week in the central valley or SoCal proper, hold off a week or use ice packs
@Winedavid49 I really don’t like to bitch, really, but as @klezman said above, there really is a simple fix.
The styro, this early, is a welcome enhancement.
kudos for that.
I’m spending way too much here,
as well you know…
And on cheese on that other site as well.
@klezman @rjquillin that is exactly what we do most of the year.
Meanwhile here in MN it’s -2C (28F) and we’re still digging ourselves out from this past weekend’s snowstorms which amounted to ~15" of snow.
Old man winter must think it is January still.
Others now seeing shipment arriving in styro?
@rjquillin Picked up two deliveries yesterday. The case shipment was in styrofoam, the 6 pack shipment was still cardboard. Had delivered to walgreens for pickup. When I picked up and took it home (sat in store for maybe 2 hours) I checked bottles temp and in styrofoam was ~75°F the cardboard was ~80°F.
Starting to think south Texas order for delivery time is over.
@rjquillin My case of 3 wine men that I received a week or so ago was in styro.
We’re breaking 90 this week in Atlanta. Very interested to hear about summer shipping options.
@jhkey
Ditto
Heads Up to all VMPs!
No Summer Shipping Enhancements For Us
@chipgreen wow… sounds like ordering for the summer will be stopping, wonder if for a fee can still get “enhanced summer shipping”
@raccoon81 I may have been a little too quick here… awaiting clarification in the thread linked above.
@chipgreen
If you’re not getting an ice pack and or two or three day shipping where you live I don’t think it matters.