@chipgreen it’s good. I drank through all I had from the winter marathon last year and picked up more during the summer marathon. Haven’t received those yet though.
@rjquillin
It is a twisty and it is slooowly aging, drinking well with blackberry blueberry notes and smooth tannins. You’d never know it is 17 years of age.
de Negoce #15, Napa Valley Merlot
Very young…2018
Nice flavor over the whole palate.
A little thin, and no appreciable alcohol - 14.5%
Can’t wait to finish it tomorrow evening…and
I’m sure we will need more!
@klezman
In Latin American countries the dish is commonly shared during Christmas, typically accompanied by arroz con gandules. The pork shoulder is used as a whole piece, with skin and bone. Wikipedia
Main ingredients: Pork leg or arm shoulder
Alternative names: Pernil asado
Ingredients generally used: Sofrito, salt, and pepper plus possibly additional spices (oregano, and adobo)
Associated national cuisine: Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic,Cuba
Perhaps @trifecta knows? I’ve been hoping for an offer and also to get my wines released from his/Clark’s storage. But that last one is a problem for @rjquillin.
2012 Knot Wines Halyard Brut. It’s held up quite well. Fitting that I got it from Last Bottle, that was my last bottle. With the requisite fried chicken.
Last night, 2011 Silas Pinot Noir Calliope Cuvee, part of 2019’s BD order, with leftover pizza.
Tuesday, 2018 Square Peg Rosé, with a chicken schwarma dish that had lots of flavor and didn’t require us to take our eyes off the TV.
Tomorrow night, possibly: 2008 Victory. No idea what we’re eating.
@InFrom Didn’t pop the cork on the Victory tonight. We had dinner out (literally, out – at a table in the restaurant’s front yard) and ordered from their list. Besides, we don’t have a victory. Yet.
Back at home, opened 2018 Andrew Murray Grenache, and it’s so nice! I had a good reason to only get the 6-pack on that offer, but what I’ve opened so far has made me wish I’d gotten the case.
@klezman I saw the offer and thought of you.
And look at that, you’re tonight’s rat!
Tell me about the beef back ribs. I tried a 24 hour sous vide on a couple racks 2 weeks ago and really loved how them came out. Much lower quality meat too.
@CorTot Oh, I love beef ribs. Smoked, instant pot, just low and slow. Never done them sous vide, though. Maybe that’s next.
These are attached to the full rib sections when they get the dry ageing treatment, and so they get really funky. Scott would think they’re too funky, in all likelihood. And because it’s Flannery, these end up with a LOT of fat, both surface and marbling. 4-ish hours on the grill at ~275 doesn’t really render most of it, but the meat is damn tender by then.
@ScottW58 Yum!
Love the fancy Grassls and Zaltos, too! But given how many wine glasses seem to get destroyed in our house we’re not willing to pay for them.
Nothing tonight, but last night…
2012 Iron Horse Silver Moon
2015 Peterson Mendo Blendo
2012 E Maria Gerhardt, Mainzer Domherr, Spatburgunder Rose Eiswine
Jumping in on the theme and celebrating our new president-elect with a 2005 Wellington Victory @PeterW did you name it Victory for occasions such as these?
@karenhynes Good, this was a newer vintage from the winery when we stopped by, very tasty. I didn’t realize they were owned by Roblar. We met the owner of both when we stopped by.
OMG! Stanton Vineyards Petite Sirah, 2007
Calistoga, Napa Valley
All you Woo… I mean Casemates folks have always said that old PS is good, and I’ve stocked my cellar with lots of it, in fact I’ve put some in cases (along with Amarones) and stacked them in the back of the cellar. Y’all are not wrong.
@ScottW58 Not saying Nebs are dark - just that this one is particularly light. Lighter in colour, even, than most Pinots I’ve had. Anyway, I think it’ll open up very nicely. Thought it’d be fun to try one young given that 2006 we all liked so much.
1987 Robert Mondavi Winery Pinot Noir
At this point, clearly past prime (Bin Sale purchase; storage?), but so am I for that matter.
Can only guess how good this likely was a few years earlier.
We had a 1970 Martini Cabernet Sauvignon with an exquisite prime ribeye, medium rare, with Bernaise sauce. Wine is amazing, a bit past prime but with lovely flavours and mouth feel! Aromas more bottle age than fruit, but remarkable, and this is the regular cab, not a special selection! Pictures later.
@rjquillin - actually ended up using an old Ah-so. The cork came out intact, but very wet throughout save the top 1/4 inch. Very firm seal on the cork.
Note that it says “California Mountain” because the vineyard - Monte Rosso - is in the Mayacamas Mountains between Sonoma and Napa counties and the county line runs through it.
Again, gotta offer props to Long Point Winery on the East side of Cayuga Lake. (NY Finger Lakes Region)
Drinking their 2014 Cabernet Sauvignon.
And, again marvel at the patience of Gary Barletta, who recently bottled the 2015 for sale.
I’ll reiterate; if you’re anywhere near there, stop in for a taste! And if not, buy a case. You’ll not be disappointed.
@CorTot@scottw58
No, no, no; not me, others that also have wine stored in the same facility.
There were at least 10 for one person, the bulk for two others, and a single case for me.
CT pintag has notes on two bottles and is spot on.
This was a bit rough at PnP, but smoothed out after 6+ hours in a decanter.
@CorTot@rjquillin@ScottW58 A De Negoce sighting! My first case is set to arrive on Wednesday-the Chehelem mountain Pinot sampler pack. And the RRV Pinot isn’t far behind.
@klezman@Mark_L@radiolysis@ScottW58 Candace’s grandparents have done turkey 3 ways for our big family gatherings. Bbq rotisserie, deep fried and traditional oven. My favorite has been the bbq rotisserie for several years running, her cousin uses applewood in an open pit bbq and it’s really tasty.
@CorTot@klezman@Mark_L@radiolysis
Yeah I’m sure deep fried is great but I’m not putting together what it takes to deep fry a turkey that I would only use maybe once a year.
My case got sorted into another stash; had to dig thru 31 cases to find it. All for one person, all from de Négoce, and that’s just one other client here receiving these.
@CorTot@rjquillin I’d love to hear some reviews. I didn’t put myself on that list because I don’t need solid cases of mystery(ish) wine. I figured I’d get a few bottles here and there.
@CorTot
Not yet.
Not all that impressed by the N.49 I opened the other day, less so from this N.51. However, need to consider they have all been recently bottled, and I (uncharacteristically) pulled corks within days of them arriving. I’m supposed to have two others that were delivered I need to locate, that may have been sorted into some other locker; sigh…
OG N.31 2018 Dry Creek Zinfandel
OG N.43 2018 Napa (Oakville/St. Helena) Cabernet Sauvignon
@CorTot@rjquillin
Believe it or not I finally cracked and bought a case of 2018 Stags leap cab that is on the way, I definitely don’t have room or the time to wait for it to be ready to drink so if you want some or half I am willing to share. I paid 215 for the case if you’re interested? And I still need to pickup some doughnuts
@CorTot@rjquillin@ScottW58 I was also fascinated by this venture. Just received my first shipment, n.70, the Chehelem Mtn clonal variety pack. N48 arrives tomorrow. A total of 4 cases ordered to date.
Edited to add, the n.31 zin seems likely to be Ped Mother Clone. Curious if those tasting it agree.
@ScottW58 A nice Rhone Blend. A little toward the old-world side. A perfectly adequate mid-week wine. The Wellington, on the other hand, was like sitting in a port house in Vila Nova de Gaia.
@rjquillin@ScottW58
What RJ said
So I pobega’d this off the truck yesterday and finished tonight. Nose was cola and cherry, very much true to the varietal. Tannins were present but fruit was dominant at this point and medium acidity and finish.
I enjoyed this, but definitely think it will benefit with a year or two in the cellar. Was it Kelley Fox Hyland with its amazing floral notes? Hardly. But for $13, I’m happy and look forward to following its progress.
@hscottk@rjquillin
My 66 came in today and sadly Cam just posted on the WB that he tried it last week and does not suggest trying for a few more months, it was just bottled damn!
@klezman@ScottW58 I bought a case based on Klezman’s review. Would have bought more but bought two cases of Andrews. One my husband knows about, the other he does not.
@PatrickKarcher A bit on the big and fruity side for our Pinot preferences, but pretty good overall. It really needed the year plus since I ratted it for the offer.
@klezman@rjquillin the '17 was the one I got a couple of, never got the '16s. My Carneros '17 was indeed big and fruity, and I loved it. More my style than my wife’s. I’m way overstocked on PN, but it will be hard for me to pass up those Kekeris if they come back at that price.
@kawichris650 the finito is a reusable 1/2 bottle I use to pour off 1/2 a bottle to keep fresh for later. I poured off 1/2 the cab I opened since I knew I might not get back to it for a couple days.
@FritzCat@rjquillin They release most of them way too young for my tastes. The 2018 Duarte was surprisingly good and not overdone a couple months ago, and a few 2017/16 bottle are nice right now (2016 Steacy Zin, for example), but I like to let them sit for a few years. Inevitably that means I’m going to eventually shift my purchases elsewhere.
2008 Giuseppe Cortese Barbaresco Rabaja Riserva DOCG got this from Kyle for a song a number of years ago when he decided he didn’t like Italian wine anymore and glad I did label has seen better days but the wine is beautiful!
2013 Wellington Malbec tonight. I was going to open the Wellington tomorrow, but the Montepulciano I was going to open tonight somehow ended up in the kitchen fridge rather than the wine fridge, and it’s too cold.
I’m going to miss Wellington when it’s all gone. I’ve been rationing my stock, but I have under 20 bottles left now (not counting my stock of Victory, which I’m being even more protective of than the rest).
We started out with this sparkler I bought after reading this article last year – fermented in the Charmat style from wild Maine blueberries. The Times wine writer enjoyed it, but I think my bottle may have suffered in the year since purchase. Quite a funk going on, though pretty color and fizz. Very dry, and not overtly blueberry-y. It reminded me of a framboise or some similarly sour beer.
I wasn’t up for the funk, and landed on this instead.
Don’t usually play here but hey, it’s Thanksgiving and I’m used to cooking for 40 people and this year was the 2 of us. Kept it USA, heritage bird and wine. 2008 Marcassin Est chard, 2007 Rochioli East Block pinot. Hmmm…what next?
Cheers!
@kaolis Do I get kicked off the island? Baileys! Neighbor dropped off a pumpkin roll unlike any other pumpkin roll and it actually matches up just fine
Scrapped the original ideas, Onesta Cinsault or WineSmith PN, in favor of a lower AbV bottle, 2013 Judd’s Hill Meritage. Somebody has to work tomorrow, and it isn’t me. Put half the bottle into a .375 for another day. Definitely the lowest wine-consumption Thanksgiving in a long time, and ironic that it’s the one year I’m not driving anywhere!
Started with a couple aperitifs;
2016 Marchesi Mazzei Belguardo Rosato Toscana IGT
N.V. Bodkin Blanc De Sauvignon Blanc Cuvee Agincourt
With turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, grean bean casserole, fried noodles and rolls;
2009 Roessler Pinot Noir Bluejay
2007 Bargetto La Vita Regan Vineyards
2010 Piccolo Wine Company Pinot Grigio Piro Piro Piccolo
With French Silk pie from Baker’s Square and Cards Against Humanity;
2017 Hunt Country Vineyards Cabernet Franc Rosé
2017 Van Ruiten Sparkling Rosé
Mixed with OJ for “Bloody Mimosas” this morning, along with scrambled eggs, bacon, hash browns and toast;
2007 Geyser Peak Shiraz Sparkling
@chipgreen Clearly you ignored the social limits of no more than 6 carbon units congregating.
Oh, you’re not in CA, or one of those other states.
Well done.
@chipgreen@rjquillin the gathering limits are interesting, to be sure. The science is not all that clear on the risk of small gatherings.
But I want to know who won cards against humanity.
@chipgreen@klezman@rjquillin we ended up with just my wife’s immediate family which was still 15 people. No one traveled in and everyone is careful, I really didn’t have a 2nd thought about it.
@rjquillin Ah Grasshopper, you forgot @chipgreen’s Pub post, very early Thursday morning:
My prep involves gathering up an assorted case of wine and driving 3 hours to my SIL’s place. There will only be 6 of us altogether this year so 12 bottles should be enough! Just have to save a bottle or two of bubbles for the morning Mimosas.
@klezman@rjquillin
Only 6 peeps, as @InFrom was kind enough to point out. And I actually came home with 3 bottles, even after gifting one of the leftovers.
My SIL and I were tied 8-8 in CAH when we decided we’d had enough (cards and wine) for the night!
@chipgreen@InFrom@rjquillin and for the avoidance of doubt, I’m not judging anybody here unless they’re planning huge gatherings. You all know your families and can make your own decisions about the risks to yourself and to them.
@ScottW58 Just finishing it right now, actually. Super floral, very nice and acidic but with a more “rounded” sort of acidity. I’m liking it.
I’m surprised @MarkdaSpark hasn’t asked about the Turley! But even you might like this PS, Scott!
@MarkDaSpark@ScottW58 Fantastic And surprisingly young-looking for a 20 year old wine, even a PS. And it still tastes like PS, but without the smack-you-in-the-face tannin I bet this had when it was young.
2005 Frazier Lupine Hill Cab Sauv. (Napa)
Still very good…and I’ve got another.
Makes me appreciate how well a North Country (NY) basement works as a wine cellar.
A GO flyer for $16; pricy for them but CT average $33
2014 Hamacher True Story Volume II Pinot Noir
A nice bottle at 6 years. Still fresh fruit, not complex, but not simple either, resolved tannins, what there are of them and enough acid so it isn’t flabby and works well with leftover T-day fare.
@chipgreen@kaolis@ScottW58 Lovely label preceded by a frowny face most likely means it was a disappointment. Or that kaolis drank it all and sank into a depression. Probably the former.
@chipgreen@InFrom@kaolis@ScottW58 I took it as the worst option in the Groupon/Qupe debacle. Promised one estate bottle and some got the Central Coast bottling in a different vintage.
@chipgreen@InFrom@kaolis@radiolysis@rjquillin
I only bought 6 and I received the 14.5 abv one, I didn’t put in for the refund it was not worth the hassle imo. Gave away a few bottles then tried one and didn’t like it at all probably would have been better off with the real central coast bottles like you got.
@chipgreen Sounds like one I would like. Great name, in any case.
@CorTot
Is that a 375 from LB? I have one of those around here somewhere… how is it?
@chipgreen it’s good. I drank through all I had from the winter marathon last year and picked up more during the summer marathon. Haven’t received those yet though.
@chipgreen @CorTot
Those were really good, iirc got some mag’s of those for under 40 bones a while ago from them.
Starting with 2004 Esterline Dry Riesling, Cole Valley. This is probably the best bottle of the 4!
Add to that:
2018 Barkan Cabernet Sauvignon (mevushal)
2013 Featherstone Merlot Red Tail, Niagara
2013 Vinitwo del Finito
@klezman
Nice!
How’s the Vinitwo del Finito drinking?
@kawichris650 It’d been two years since the previous bottle, and it was excellent.
2003 Quixote Panza Petite Sirah
@rc70
Absolutely, totally forgot about that one!
How’s it progressing?
Is the twisty, if I correctly recall, allowing it to age at all?
@rjquillin
It is a twisty and it is slooowly aging, drinking well with blackberry blueberry notes and smooth tannins. You’d never know it is 17 years of age.
2017 Princess & Peasant Carignan
de Negoce #15, Napa Valley Merlot
Very young…2018
Nice flavor over the whole palate.
A little thin, and no appreciable alcohol - 14.5%
Can’t wait to finish it tomorrow evening…and
I’m sure we will need more!
Prepping a Pernil for the long cook in the smoker tomorrow, I do love the prepping Aussie shiraz tonight 2012 and damn tasty. 9 pound pork shoulder.
@ScottW58 what’s a pernil?
@klezman
In Latin American countries the dish is commonly shared during Christmas, typically accompanied by arroz con gandules. The pork shoulder is used as a whole piece, with skin and bone. Wikipedia
Main ingredients: Pork leg or arm shoulder
Alternative names: Pernil asado
Ingredients generally used: Sofrito, salt, and pepper plus possibly additional spices (oregano, and adobo)
Associated national cuisine: Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic,Cuba
@ScottW58 Sounds delicious
@klezman @ScottW58
Nice! Was that Kay Bros. wine “basket pressed”?
@chipgreen @klezman
Block 6 Shiraz, I keep praying that wtso comes up with another vintage!
2018 WineSmith Carneros Saint Laurent
11.3% AbV
@rjquillin 2015 of that for me tonight. It’s good.
Was doing cellar organisation today and thought I’d lost a bottle of this. Glad I wrote it here instead of it being lost forever!
@rc70
Nice! Anyone know what Mike is up to these days?
Perhaps @trifecta knows? I’ve been hoping for an offer and also to get my wines released from his/Clark’s storage. But that last one is a problem for @rjquillin.
So what’s everyone drinking on election night hemlock or champagne? I’m finishing off the Aussie and eating the Pernil, came out awesome!
POPSOCKETS! ROAD ROCKETS! SONNY CROCKETT! AWESOME!
This wine about sums up how I’m feeling thus far tonight: 2016 Twisted Oak *%#&@!
@klezman
Pulling this baby apart makes me happy, wish you were here to try it!
@ScottW58
@ScottW58 also had smoked pulled pork, in tacos, but I bet yours is better.
2007 Col Solare
Celebratory…
Going to open some Riesling or bubbly and pick up Indian food to wind down after a rather tense few days.
2017 Andrew Murray Espérance.
2010 Agharta Black Label Syrah
2012 Knot Wines Halyard Brut. It’s held up quite well. Fitting that I got it from Last Bottle, that was my last bottle. With the requisite fried chicken.
Last night, 2011 Silas Pinot Noir Calliope Cuvee, part of 2019’s BD order, with leftover pizza.
Tuesday, 2018 Square Peg Rosé, with a chicken schwarma dish that had lots of flavor and didn’t require us to take our eyes off the TV.
Tomorrow night, possibly: 2008 Victory. No idea what we’re eating.
@InFrom Didn’t pop the cork on the Victory tonight. We had dinner out (literally, out – at a table in the restaurant’s front yard) and ordered from their list. Besides, we don’t have a victory. Yet.
Back at home, opened 2018 Andrew Murray Grenache, and it’s so nice! I had a good reason to only get the 6-pack on that offer, but what I’ve opened so far has made me wish I’d gotten the case.
Flannery beef back ribs and tonight’s wine.
@klezman I saw the offer and thought of you.
And look at that, you’re tonight’s rat!
Tell me about the beef back ribs. I tried a 24 hour sous vide on a couple racks 2 weeks ago and really loved how them came out. Much lower quality meat too.
@CorTot Oh, I love beef ribs. Smoked, instant pot, just low and slow. Never done them sous vide, though. Maybe that’s next.
These are attached to the full rib sections when they get the dry ageing treatment, and so they get really funky. Scott would think they’re too funky, in all likelihood. And because it’s Flannery, these end up with a LOT of fat, both surface and marbling. 4-ish hours on the grill at ~275 doesn’t really render most of it, but the meat is damn tender by then.
Chappellet Mountain Cuvee.
Always good.
Made some pretty good cassoulet tonight. And the fancy Grassel
@ScottW58 Yum!
Love the fancy Grassls and Zaltos, too! But given how many wine glasses seem to get destroyed in our house we’re not willing to pay for them.
@CorTot this was pretty meh!
Might even drain pour the other 1/2.
@CorTot So it wasn’t a Sensation…
@klezman nope, very woody, a little funk. Not much to really like here.
@CorTot @klezman
7YO Syrah, one can always hope for the best.
2013 Wind Gap Wines Pinot Noir Sun Chase Vineyard
‘16 Franny Beck Pinot WV.
Nothing tonight, but last night…
2012 Iron Horse Silver Moon
2015 Peterson Mendo Blendo
2012 E Maria Gerhardt, Mainzer Domherr, Spatburgunder Rose Eiswine
Last night with Arthur Treachers
2 nights ago, from magnum, to celebrate a friend’s birthday at a local restaurant.
2014 Iron Horse Gratitude
@karenhynes That would have been our bubbly choice! Nicely done.
This seems to be appropriate tonight.
Jumping in on the theme and celebrating our new president-elect with a 2005 Wellington Victory
@PeterW did you name it Victory for occasions such as these?
@klezman We opened the '08.
@InFrom we followed it up with a 2007 Twisted Oak Pig Stai. molarchae really wanted to celebrate - it’s one of her favourites.
Last night…
And tonight…
2015 Vino Noceto Sangiovese Riserva. @klezman was spot on…firing on all cylinders.
2017 Stolpman Sangiovese
2019 Refugio Rancho Malvasia Blanc
@CorTot
How’s the Refugio these days? I forgot I have some of those somewhere. Need to drink them down??
@karenhynes Good, this was a newer vintage from the winery when we stopped by, very tasty. I didn’t realize they were owned by Roblar. We met the owner of both when we stopped by.
2019 Stolpman Crunchy Rôastie. Wife really loved this bottle.
2018 Storyteller Pinot went in the bœuf bourguignon.
2012 McCay Carignane, Lodi
Damn this is good. @WineDavid49 you need to get them on here! Best stop of the 2018 Tour!
2016 Wilde Farm Syrah Halcon Vineyard
2015 inspiration vineyards Syrah DCV
Finding some Aussie love!
2016 Orin Swift Abstract.
Highly recommend.
2016 Navarro Vineyards Rosé of Pinot Noir
2016 Chateau Mukhrani Saperavi. My first Georgian wine.
2016 Seghesio Family Vineyards Defiant
The infamous 2016 Qupe Syrah, hillside estate
@hscottk lol, don’t rub it in!
@CorTot
I’m sure it’s awful and you didn’t miss out on anything.
@CorTot @kawichris650 It’s the 14.5%, I swear! I would never be caught flexing the 14% on CM.
Somebody said Wellington Wednesday, so with lamb shoulder chops we opened 2010 Wellington Vineyards Syrah England Crest
OMG! Stanton Vineyards Petite Sirah, 2007
Calistoga, Napa Valley
All you Woo… I mean Casemates folks have always said that old PS is good, and I’ve stocked my cellar with lots of it, in fact I’ve put some in cases (along with Amarones) and stacked them in the back of the cellar. Y’all are not wrong.
Don’t know what I’m eating tonight but damn this is rocking! Decanted for 3 hours and needed every bit.
2017 Malvira Roero
@klezman
How is that one?
@ScottW58 Early returns are positive. Very light in colour, needs a ton of air. I think I’m going to give it a Mollydooker shake.
@klezman
Sounds like a proper nebbiolo to me
@ScottW58 Pretty much! Although way lighter in colour than I’ve ever seen.
@klezman
You might be surprised how many great nebbiolos are very light in color.
@ScottW58 Not saying Nebs are dark - just that this one is particularly light. Lighter in colour, even, than most Pinots I’ve had. Anyway, I think it’ll open up very nicely. Thought it’d be fun to try one young given that 2006 we all liked so much.
Working late, this helped.
2015 Veuve Doussot Champagne Ernestine
2016 Scott Harvey Barbera J&S Reserve.
Trader Joe’s brut rose ‘19
With a damn tasty pork chop
1987 Robert Mondavi Winery Pinot Noir
At this point, clearly past prime (Bin Sale purchase; storage?), but so am I for that matter.
Can only guess how good this likely was a few years earlier.
We had a 1970 Martini Cabernet Sauvignon with an exquisite prime ribeye, medium rare, with Bernaise sauce. Wine is amazing, a bit past prime but with lovely flavours and mouth feel! Aromas more bottle age than fruit, but remarkable, and this is the regular cab, not a special selection! Pictures later.
@rpm You are doing an admirable job clearing out your cellar…
12.5% where are they now.
Seeing the corkscrew in the background, no special extraction device required?
@rjquillin - actually ended up using an old Ah-so. The cork came out intact, but very wet throughout save the top 1/4 inch. Very firm seal on the cork.
Note that it says “California Mountain” because the vineyard - Monte Rosso - is in the Mayacamas Mountains between Sonoma and Napa counties and the county line runs through it.
@rpm Nice!
Funny they reference St. Emilion for a Cabernet when those are usually Merlot-heavy.
2016 Iron Horse Vineyards Chardonnay Estate
2018 Limerick Lane RRV zin after a 3 hr decant. It needed every bit of it. These are disappearing much too quickly from my cellar.
2013 Waters Interlude
Again, gotta offer props to Long Point Winery on the East side of Cayuga Lake. (NY Finger Lakes Region)
Drinking their 2014 Cabernet Sauvignon.
And, again marvel at the patience of Gary Barletta, who recently bottled the 2015 for sale.
I’ll reiterate; if you’re anywhere near there, stop in for a taste! And if not, buy a case. You’ll not be disappointed.
@CorTot That the bottle that was duped last night or leftovers?
@klezman its the extra, I felt I didn’t give it a fair shake last night so I revisited it tonight with dinner.
2018 de Négoce Cabernet Sauvignon OG N.49
Steak Diane out of a Flannery hanger.
Shipped to my locker. Must have been 20~30 other cases there as well, and they are large!
He is selling a lot of wine.
@rjquillin
How was it? You bought 20+ cases of de Negoce?
@rjquillin I’m rather confused. How many cases did you buy from them?
@CorTot @scottw58
No, no, no; not me, others that also have wine stored in the same facility.
There were at least 10 for one person, the bulk for two others, and a single case for me.
CT pintag has notes on two bottles and is spot on.
This was a bit rough at PnP, but smoothed out after 6+ hours in a decanter.
I think I have a Cab Franc arriving tomorrow.
@CorTot @rjquillin
Whew I thought you might have lost your mind, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
@CorTot @rjquillin @ScottW58 A De Negoce sighting! My first case is set to arrive on Wednesday-the Chehelem mountain Pinot sampler pack. And the RRV Pinot isn’t far behind.
2016 Pedroncelli Sonoma Classico
Wellington 2009 Port, Old Vines
Smoked a small turkey as a test for Thanksgiving. Came out great!
@ScottW58 Once you smoke a turkey, you never want it any other way.
@Mark_L
You are correct, good god is it juicey! Love the smoke too
@Mark_L @ScottW58 I smoked a turkey a few years ago and i was told “it doesn’t taste like thanksgiving.” It was amazing, though.
@Mark_L @radiolysis @ScottW58 deep fried turkey is the best I’ve ever had, much as I love smoked turkey.
@klezman @Mark_L @radiolysis @ScottW58 Candace’s grandparents have done turkey 3 ways for our big family gatherings. Bbq rotisserie, deep fried and traditional oven. My favorite has been the bbq rotisserie for several years running, her cousin uses applewood in an open pit bbq and it’s really tasty.
@CorTot @klezman @Mark_L @radiolysis
Yeah I’m sure deep fried is great but I’m not putting together what it takes to deep fry a turkey that I would only use maybe once a year.
2017 Bernard Baudry Chinon Domaine
Earthy, barnyard, bell pepper, nice acidity. Fantastic.
Delicious!
Really good with some coffee rubbed filets and I’m not a big 2011 Napa can guy or filets for that matter
@ScottW58 You drinking wine out of a can these days?
@InFrom
A can??
@InFrom @ScottW58
@kawichris650 I should pull out the stuff I have in the cellar of theirs. All sorts of high-gravity, barrel-aged fun!
2017 The Princess and the Peasant Carignan Poor Ranch
Did I see somebody say they closed the winery down??
@klezman
I don’t know but they have been in France for a year or so to work on a champagne project, probably don’t want to come back
Drinking the end of this, and Adam Sabelli-Frisch’s email tonight convinced me to open the 2018 Sabelli-Frish Mission La Malinche
2018 de Négoce Cabernet Franc OG N.51
My case got sorted into another stash; had to dig thru 31 cases to find it. All for one person, all from de Négoce, and that’s just one other client here receiving these.
@rjquillin any thoughts???
I’ve been intrigued by these offers.
@CorTot @rjquillin I’d love to hear some reviews. I didn’t put myself on that list because I don’t need solid cases of mystery(ish) wine. I figured I’d get a few bottles here and there.
@CorTot
Not yet.
Not all that impressed by the N.49 I opened the other day, less so from this N.51. However, need to consider they have all been recently bottled, and I (uncharacteristically) pulled corks within days of them arriving. I’m supposed to have two others that were delivered I need to locate, that may have been sorted into some other locker; sigh…
OG N.31 2018 Dry Creek Zinfandel
OG N.43 2018 Napa (Oakville/St. Helena) Cabernet Sauvignon
I think I remember seeing the Zin, somewhere
@klezman I’ll tag a CF for you.
Right now it’s tighter than a hermetic drum.
@CorTot @rjquillin
Believe it or not I finally cracked and bought a case of 2018 Stags leap cab that is on the way, I definitely don’t have room or the time to wait for it to be ready to drink so if you want some or half I am willing to share. I paid 215 for the case if you’re interested? And I still need to pickup some doughnuts
@CorTot @ScottW58
Save me a couple/few.
I had it in the cart, looking, while it sold out.
@CorTot @rjquillin @ScottW58 I was also fascinated by this venture. Just received my first shipment, n.70, the Chehelem Mtn clonal variety pack. N48 arrives tomorrow. A total of 4 cases ordered to date.
Edited to add, the n.31 zin seems likely to be Ped Mother Clone. Curious if those tasting it agree.
@CorTot @rjquillin
3 for you! All I really need to keep is 3 so if anyone wants some let me know.
@CorTot @rjquillin @ScottW58 that’s why I stayed off the list! I knew I’d crumble at some point.
@rjquillin @ScottW58 I’m ignoring this, I discovered through various deliveries at the swap meet that I owe Ron nearly $400.
@CorTot @ScottW58 @klezman
But you failed to subtract storage fees I owe you.
I think I just ponied up ~$700 I found out I owed Klez
@CorTot @rjquillin @ScottW58 most of which went back to Tim for Corison!
@klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58 is this what they refer to as the circular Economy!?
@CorTot @rjquillin
Well then it seems you have your own problems to deal with lol
2008 Carlisle Two Acres Red Wine.
(Shown with the Wellington Port)
@FritzCat
How was the two acres? Haven’t had one in a while.
@ScottW58 A nice Rhone Blend. A little toward the old-world side. A perfectly adequate mid-week wine. The Wellington, on the other hand, was like sitting in a port house in Vila Nova de Gaia.
2012 Winesmith Roman Reserve Cab Franc
It’s Wellington Wednesday
2012 Wellington Vineyards Merlot
2018 De Négoce OG N.48
@hscottk
How is it? And what is it
@hscottk @ScottW58
2018 de Négoce Pinot Noir OG N.48 RRV
@rjquillin @ScottW58
What RJ said
So I pobega’d this off the truck yesterday and finished tonight. Nose was cola and cherry, very much true to the varietal. Tannins were present but fruit was dominant at this point and medium acidity and finish.
I enjoyed this, but definitely think it will benefit with a year or two in the cellar. Was it Kelley Fox Hyland with its amazing floral notes? Hardly. But for $13, I’m happy and look forward to following its progress.
@hscottk @rjquillin
My 66 came in today and sadly Cam just posted on the WB that he tried it last week and does not suggest trying for a few more months, it was just bottled damn!
Speaking of Pobega’d I did this one right off the truck and F me it’s fantastic! I need to get more
@ScottW58 Told you…
@klezman
Told me?! I know Andrews winemaking skills
@ScottW58 True…but I ratted this one. So I guess I told everybody more than you directly
@klezman @ScottW58 I bought a case based on Klezman’s review. Would have bought more but bought two cases of Andrews. One my husband knows about, the other he does not.
@danandlisa @klezman
I like your style
@klezman @ScottW58 Thanks! I like yours as well.
Finishing that Sabelli-Frisch and then moving on to a 2017 Kukeri Lakeville Vineyard Pinot Noir
@klezman How was the Kukeri? I tried one of my two “Cornerstone Carneros” and it was absolutely fantastic. I put my two Lakeville’s in deep storage.
@PatrickKarcher A bit on the big and fruity side for our Pinot preferences, but pretty good overall. It really needed the year plus since I ratted it for the offer.
@klezman @PatrickKarcher
Either of you had either of the '16’s recently?
@klezman @rjquillin the '17 was the one I got a couple of, never got the '16s. My Carneros '17 was indeed big and fruity, and I loved it. More my style than my wife’s. I’m way overstocked on PN, but it will be hard for me to pass up those Kekeris if they come back at that price.
I missed Wellington Wednesday, so I’m enjoying Fantastic Wellington Friday!
@kawichris650 Fantastic Wellington Friday! AND, Wellington Estate Vineyard Friday!
@kawichris650
@CorTot
I like how the finito is lingering behind the cab haha.
@CorTot @kawichris650
With the Clorox as a side player.
@kawichris650 the finito is a reusable 1/2 bottle I use to pour off 1/2 a bottle to keep fresh for later. I poured off 1/2 the cab I opened since I knew I might not get back to it for a couple days.
@CorTot that’s thinking! I use an old baby bottle, but have never had the forethought to pour it first thing. I’ll try that next time.
@CorTot @radiolysis That’s been my tactic since molarchae’s first pregnancy. Can even do it with older wines if you pour slowly.
Leftovers
Turley Juvenile, 2018…meh
@FritzCat Does it just need to grow up?
@rjquillin I did buy two, and added the 2nd to my stash of old Turleys.
@FritzCat @rjquillin They release most of them way too young for my tastes. The 2018 Duarte was surprisingly good and not overdone a couple months ago, and a few 2017/16 bottle are nice right now (2016 Steacy Zin, for example), but I like to let them sit for a few years. Inevitably that means I’m going to eventually shift my purchases elsewhere.
2015 Halcon Pinot Noir, Wentzel Vineyard
2015 A Tribute to Grace Wine Company Grenache Vie Caprice Vineyard
2015 Divum cellars 2 vineyards Pinot noir.
Gruet Blanc de Noirs. Was worried about some strange sediment, but the bubbly was fantastic.
2008 Giuseppe Cortese Barbaresco Rabaja Riserva DOCG got this from Kyle for a song a number of years ago when he decided he didn’t like Italian wine anymore and glad I did label has seen better days but the wine is beautiful!
Been staring at these for too long and needed to try one - 2016 Ridge Lytton Springs
Bonus Level, Pedroncelli PS, 2012
Good. Good nose, but restrained. Very dry on the finish.
Somewhat old world.
2008 Piers merlot , a garagiste no-name wine. Excellent. If you have any, drink now or soon.
Savory, with black and blue fruits and lots of sediment. Plenty of life left in the wine - not so much the winery, which is sadly defunct.
2014 Scott Harvey zin. My last SH wine. Perhaps they will ship to my state again someday.
2013 Wellington Malbec tonight. I was going to open the Wellington tomorrow, but the Montepulciano I was going to open tonight somehow ended up in the kitchen fridge rather than the wine fridge, and it’s too cold.
I’m going to miss Wellington when it’s all gone. I’ve been rationing my stock, but I have under 20 bottles left now (not counting my stock of Victory, which I’m being even more protective of than the rest).
2018 Annick Bachelet Fleurie. I really think I enjoy Gamay more than Pinot Noir.
@radiolysis Gasp!
@radiolysis Tar and feather!
@radiolysis
sacrilege!
2015 Grgich Hills Merlot.
Cellartracker is all over the place on this one.
I like it a lot.
@InFrom
I was sorting through some bottles last night and realized I’d forgotten I had some of these. How’s it drinking?
@kawichris650 Very, very nicely! I prioritized drinking the 2013s, based on the comments in the thread I think, but this is ready to roll.
We started out with this sparkler I bought after reading this article last year – fermented in the Charmat style from wild Maine blueberries. The Times wine writer enjoyed it, but I think my bottle may have suffered in the year since purchase. Quite a funk going on, though pretty color and fizz. Very dry, and not overtly blueberry-y. It reminded me of a framboise or some similarly sour beer.
I wasn’t up for the funk, and landed on this instead.
Had to try one and happy I did! Maybe the best Grenache I have ever had. Wish it was easier to find.
@ScottW58 R u sure that ain’t a Garnacha?
@InFrom
Call it what you want I need more!
2015 Onesta Cinsaut. Getting really nice after being open for 5 hours.
2008 Wellington Victory
@CorTot other 1/2 of this with a nice thick NY steak.
Candace opened up a 2019 Sunce viognier.
Turkey was so juicy and went crazy with wine, guess we will open a Pinot too
Don’t usually play here but hey, it’s Thanksgiving and I’m used to cooking for 40 people and this year was the 2 of us. Kept it USA, heritage bird and wine. 2008 Marcassin Est chard, 2007 Rochioli East Block pinot. Hmmm…what next?
Cheers!
@kaolis Do I get kicked off the island? Baileys! Neighbor dropped off a pumpkin roll unlike any other pumpkin roll and it actually matches up just fine
@kaolis nope, we’d prefer to know more of what you drink!
Scrapped the original ideas, Onesta Cinsault or WineSmith PN, in favor of a lower AbV bottle, 2013 Judd’s Hill Meritage. Somebody has to work tomorrow, and it isn’t me. Put half the bottle into a .375 for another day. Definitely the lowest wine-consumption Thanksgiving in a long time, and ironic that it’s the one year I’m not driving anywhere!
Considering how little we drank of it, I suppose it’s of no import that this bottle actually is 14.5%, just like the other two. Oh well.
2014 Corliss Syrah. Brined peppery smoked bird.
Went all Zinfandel, it turned out!
1989 Ravenswood Sonoma county
2007 Harvest Moon Late Harvest Zinfandel
2011 iOTA Eola-Amity Hills PN.
2009 Twisted Oak Graciano
Deliciousness, of course.
Beringer 2014 Napa Valley Cabernet.
I got a mixed case of the 2014, 2015 and 2016.
The 2014 is a very good archetypal Napa Cab.
Started with a couple aperitifs;
2016 Marchesi Mazzei Belguardo Rosato Toscana IGT
N.V. Bodkin Blanc De Sauvignon Blanc Cuvee Agincourt
With turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, grean bean casserole, fried noodles and rolls;
2009 Roessler Pinot Noir Bluejay
2007 Bargetto La Vita Regan Vineyards
2010 Piccolo Wine Company Pinot Grigio Piro Piro Piccolo
With French Silk pie from Baker’s Square and Cards Against Humanity;
2017 Hunt Country Vineyards Cabernet Franc Rosé
2017 Van Ruiten Sparkling Rosé
Mixed with OJ for “Bloody Mimosas” this morning, along with scrambled eggs, bacon, hash browns and toast;
2007 Geyser Peak Shiraz Sparkling
@chipgreen Clearly you ignored the social limits of no more than 6 carbon units congregating.
Oh, you’re not in CA, or one of those other states.
Well done.
@chipgreen @rjquillin the gathering limits are interesting, to be sure. The science is not all that clear on the risk of small gatherings.
But I want to know who won cards against humanity.
@chipgreen @klezman @rjquillin we ended up with just my wife’s immediate family which was still 15 people. No one traveled in and everyone is careful, I really didn’t have a 2nd thought about it.
@rjquillin Ah Grasshopper, you forgot @chipgreen’s Pub post, very early Thursday morning:
@klezman @rjquillin
Only 6 peeps, as @InFrom was kind enough to point out. And I actually came home with 3 bottles, even after gifting one of the leftovers.
My SIL and I were tied 8-8 in CAH when we decided we’d had enough (cards and wine) for the night!
@chipgreen @InFrom @rjquillin and for the avoidance of doubt, I’m not judging anybody here unless they’re planning huge gatherings. You all know your families and can make your own decisions about the risks to yourself and to them.
On topic, but last night:
2013 Wellington Rousanne (my last Wellington white)
Offish topic, but tonight:
Local Belgian Tripel brewed with Honey
@CorTot thanksgiving #2
Just got one of these as a gift, loving it drinking really well!
@ScottW58 I had one a while back, it’s too young for me still. But K&L may still have some at $30 and/or the 2018.
@klezman
Hmmm it’s right in my wheelhouse still tastes like zin
@ScottW58 Still tastes like Zin at 7-20 years old
@klezman
Nope tastes like claret.
@klezman @ScottW58
Listening to you two is, I just dunno;
but entertaining nonetheless.
I’m aged, gimme some aged juice.
@klezman @rjquillin
Love aged juice but I don’t need to age Zinfandels.
Jadot Macon-Villages chardonnay
AXR 2015 Napa Cab
Starting with:
2018 Refugio Ranch Malvasia Bianca
Then moving on to a big one:
2001 Turley Petite Syrah Hayne Vineyard
@klezman
How was the Malvasia?
@ScottW58 Just finishing it right now, actually. Super floral, very nice and acidic but with a more “rounded” sort of acidity. I’m liking it.
I’m surprised @MarkdaSpark hasn’t asked about the Turley! But even you might like this PS, Scott!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark
Sounds great, PS huh well anything is possible
@klezman @ScottW58.
Been busy with stuff. So … how was the Turley?
@MarkDaSpark @ScottW58 Fantastic And surprisingly young-looking for a 20 year old wine, even a PS. And it still tastes like PS, but without the smack-you-in-the-face tannin I bet this had when it was young.
Had a damn nice bottle tonight!
Was not expecting much because of the fancy bottle but a really nice rose!
A GO flyer for $16; pricy for them but CT average $33
2014 Hamacher True Story Volume II Pinot Noir
A nice bottle at 6 years. Still fresh fruit, not complex, but not simple either, resolved tannins, what there are of them and enough acid so it isn’t flabby and works well with leftover T-day fare.
Speaking of wine recommendations, this imho is a pretty great Merlot. Took a flyer on 3 bottles after reading about her wines on another site, a nice write up here, got some training from Cathy Corison too
http://www.thewinewrite.com/2017/07/say-hello-to-erica-orr-of-orr-wines.html
Oops wrong thread.
@ScottW58 Damn, now I want to try her wines too! Sheesh.
@kaolis
Bummer
@kaolis @ScottW58
I don’t get it?
@chipgreen @kaolis @ScottW58 Lovely label preceded by a frowny face most likely means it was a disappointment. Or that kaolis drank it all and sank into a depression. Probably the former.
@chipgreen @InFrom @kaolis @ScottW58 I took it as the worst option in the Groupon/Qupe debacle. Promised one estate bottle and some got the Central Coast bottling in a different vintage.
@chipgreen @kaolis @ScottW58
Not delivered as advertised, double substituted vintage and vineyard.
@chipgreen @InFrom @ScottW58 @rjquillin
Yep, @radiolysis is correct. I admit to being made whole but that was a cluster
@InFrom @kaolis @radiolysis @rjquillin @ScottW58
Didn’t it end up being free?
@chipgreen @InFrom @kaolis @radiolysis @rjquillin
The ones I got free was not a good enough discount
@chipgreen @InFrom @radiolysis @rjquillin So @ScottW58 you got the “replacement” too apparently. And yes, kept the wine, full refund.
@chipgreen @InFrom @kaolis @radiolysis @rjquillin
I only bought 6 and I received the 14.5 abv one, I didn’t put in for the refund it was not worth the hassle imo. Gave away a few bottles then tried one and didn’t like it at all probably would have been better off with the real central coast bottles like you got.