The nose is instantly alluring. These generous and approachable tannins support intriguing aromas of tar, violets, and sweet fennel. Its weight and authority tempt one to pair it with peppered steak, but I think the natives of Madiran are right to suggest that it is at its best with grilled duck breast. Check out my cooking show, Gracious Living in the Time of Corona, for tips on preparing duck.
I was trained on winemaking techniques by the great Patrick Ducournau in Madiran, a small appellation in southwest France in sight of the Pyrenees which specializes in Tannat. He invented the technique of micro-oxygenation to tame the tannins of this extraordinary grape, which can have three times the tannin of Cabernet Sauvignon. His hunch that the wine was starved for oxygen proved correct, and the technique is similar to conching of chocolate, which the Aztecs discovered converts cocoa into chocolate.
I was delighted to find a rare planting of this little-known grape in Clarksburg, California. It was even more astonishing to discover how oily and feminine the Tannat wines from this special vineyard proved to be. Generally, Tannat needs several years to soften and open, yet here we are, just 23 months after the vintage, bottling a highly drinkable wine with a round, voluptuous mouthfeel.
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Greetings and Happy Holidays, Casemateys! We were doubly fortunate to be selected as lab rats and to experience a new varietal in the process. SWMBO and I knew very little about this grape and were anxious to learn more. So, letās get this party started!
We felt a new varietal needed a decent pairing. We selected a Flannery lamb loin roast for the job. After reading the label, I was a bit concerned the lamb might overpower the wine. This fear was unfounded.
On PnP, we found a reticent nose. I detected some red fruit in there, but not much else. Color was a deep garnet, clear with no sediment. The wine definitely felt young which was no surprise with it being a 2021.
On the palate, we found a dry, light to medium bodied red wine with good acid and moderate tannins. We had no basis for comparison but did not find the tannin bomb that, according to the winemaker, is expected with this grape. The micro-ox magic Clark performed had the intended effect.
The wine was quite balanced with fruit, acid and tannin playing well together. This was not a fruity wine, and definitely expressed itself on the austere side. The milder tannins kept everything in balance. The 12.9% ABV was greatly appreciated, with no heat or ethanol anywhere to be found. The finish was quite long, clocking in at a good 15sec.
We felt this wine was at its best when paired with food. The aforementioned lamb was a great match with the wineās acidity. It cut through the fat quite nicely, cleansing our palates. We also tried the wine with two desserts: pecan squares and Ghirardelli chocolate/peppermint squares. Each was a lovely compliment.
This wine is not a fruit bomb, cocktail wine. While approachable, it will do best with meals. Where the wine will go from here is a great question. Our lack of experience with the grape leaves us wondering how things will evolve over the next 3-5 years. Will it gain complexity? Will the fruit assert itself more over time? Thatās the beauty of wine. We can experience it in all its stages and follow its progress for the long haul. Itās one of the great joys of this hobby. We did save a glass or two for tomorrow and plan to report back with any changes overnight.
Thanks, as always, to Alice, WD and all the great folks at Casemates for the opportunity to share our thoughts. Cheers!
I love this grape. I love how Clark made this wine sing in past vintages. I donāt like how Clark treated the last mystery case as I was stuck with wine I could not drink. I wish I could say this is worth the increased price since it was last offered here, but I canāt. I am sad.
I suppose you all are wondering where Iāve been these last two years and what the hell happened to the 2017 Cab Franc that had to be recalled.
Big things are happening. A little background.
Like many wineries, I had my ass handed to me in the pandemic, when sales essentially dropped to zero. I had to take on a lot of high interest debt in hopes that things would not last as long as they did. But lucky me: my host winery offered to purchase a controlling share of my brand, take over my debt, build a tasting room, and pay me a stipend to continue making the brand.
Unfortunately, things didnāt go as planned. Our infrastructure sort of collapsed, leading to the unfortunate bottling of the CF without my approval. My apologies. Anyhow, my partners acknowledged that the deal isnāt working and agreed to an amicable divorce in which I get the wine back and reassume all debts and obligations.
I have formed WineSmith Harvest Partners LLC to operate the brand and am lining up micro-investors. Despite the gloom and doom in the national press, the small winery cohort of the industry is actually quite healthy. The market share weāre losing is the naĆÆve beginner who doesnāt really get what wine is about. Good riddance I say. This leaves folks like you who appreciate the WineSmith aesthetic as a higher percentage of the market.
Iām really excited to have control of WineSmith returned. The WineSmith renaissance project is going to be quite an undertaking, but Iām eager to wade in and make it happen. If any of you are interested in a modest investment opportunity, I can guarantee you wonāt make any money but youāll have more fun than you can imagine. Minimum buy-in is $10K.
Now, on to todayās offering. Tannat is close to my heart, as it was the traditional grape of Madiran and the reason my guru Patrick Ducournau invented micro-oxygenation. Iāve made it all over the world, always using my training to tame its remorseless tannins.
That said, this Heringer Estate vineyard in Clarksburg gives us nothing of the sort. Itās hands-down the most feminine and aromatically expressive Tannat on the planet. Those of you who snapped up the entire 2019 vintage will recognize this as more of the same. Itās sure to be in the rear-view mirror by Sunday night.
@klezman No, I did not know they were bottling it until I was notified a week later. The wine tasted fine months previous and I expected it to be okay. The casemates offer went out just after bottling, and it was only after we got a negative lab rat report (the other one was quite positive) that I realized something was wrong and sent it out to a lab, after which we refunded everyoneās payments.
Iāve been extremely vigilant in the wake of this incident. Iām very happy to have control back in my hands.
@winesmith Any idea what happened to make it turn the wrong way? The labs reveal anything?
(I didnāt get that offer and my interest is mostly in the nerdy realm, fwiw.)
Yes, I know exactly what happened. The wine was housed in another winery where it was moved to some Acetobacter-infected barrels. I saw this happening and moved the wine to a tank in our facility and discarded the barrels. I hired a talented guy with a reverse osmosis unit to come and treat the wine, which he did successfully and with great care.
This was the invention I patented in 1995. The way it works is you pump the wine tangentially along a filter so tight that only water, alcohol and acetic acid can pass - no color or flavor, and no bacteria, all of which remain in the wine. The colorless liquid that permeates the membrane is then passed through a resin that removes the acetic acid. The cleaned permeate (just alcohol and water) is then returned to the wine.
Soon after this is done, the wine needs to be sterile filtered and bottled or it will just go bad again. I continually warned my partners that this could happen, but they said they didnāt have the money to bottle and just let the wine sit for several months. They werenāt even monitoring the VA since they owed the lab money.
If you know my Lake County Cab Franc, you know that itās highly structured and has a lot of minerally palate energy from the volcanic soil. As such, itās surprisingly adept at hiding VA, especially to my partners, who werenāt skilled in tasting.
In mid September, I received notice that they had gone ahead and bottled the wine, just in time for the Casemates offer which we ran. As you know, disaster ensued. As soon as we figured out what had happened, WineDavid and I determined that we needed to refund everybodyās money. This incident convinced me that I needed to regain control and undo our deal.
@winesmith What a shitty sequence of events.
So if you had the guy come and do the RO, howcome the wine remained tainted? You needed to let the wine sit to see if all the acetobacter was gone and caused no further problems but they didnāt?
@klezman No, I knew that we still had plenty of bacteria present, as the RO does nothing to remove them. We needed to sterile filter and bottle immediately, which is what I kept insisting. Unfortunately, I wasnāt in control and the host winery principals didnāt listen to me. Instead they waited several months and then bottled without testing.
@winesmith Oh, they did the RO but not the sterile filtering. Well obviously thatās not going to work once you put the alcohol back in for the acetobacter to eat and turn into acetic acidā¦
@winesmith But thatās nonsensical. RO only lets molecules the size of water and EtOH through. Thatās kind of the point. Bacteria are way larger than that. Sigh.
Iām still unable to shake off the Roman reserve fiasco. There are six bottles in the corner of my bar that constantly remind me. Not sure why I canāt bring myself to dumping them.
@losthighwayz +1. I remember how so many of us were amazingly āluckyā enough to receive 6 RR bottles. No way I could forget both that, and the CF debacle. No more gambling. Iāll stick with my Bouza Tannat. Good luck in your new venture, Clark.
@losthighwayz@shrimp74 Iāve quite enjoyed the tasting journey the Roman Reserve bottles have given me so far. Obviously those are the epitome of ymmv bottles.
Aināt it the truth. Although the wine is sound and quite consistent, it definitely does not run with the traffic modern palates are used to. This also used to be true of so-called āorangeā wines (I hate that term, but have grown to love the style, as have many others).
The wine isnāt mine, though I did make it for Two Jakes of Diamonds, and Jake Stephens is quite fond of it. In my current circumstances, I donāt know how to make it right with yāall, but Iād like to try.
I wonder if those of you who love the style would like to do a deal with those who donāt. If so, please whisper with losthighwayz.
Meantime, let me assure you that the 2021 Tannatās winemaking is quite conventional and widely enjoyed, just like the 2019.
How is it an āinvestment opportunityā, if you are guaranteed to not make money?
ā If any of you are interested in a modest investment opportunity, I can guarantee you wonāt make any money but youāll have more fun than you can imagine. Minimum buy-in is $10K.ā
I think you do not know the meaning of the words investment, opportunity, or guarantee. Possibly you are a bit unclear on the terms modest, money and fun also.
Nevertheless anyone that leads with excuses in place of explanations is a shyster.
@Eron
Sometimes venture capitalism is more like philanthropy. At least Clark is telling you upfront that you probably wonāt make any money. I am assuming there are āperksā to being a micro-investor, and for people with money to burn, having direct access to a winemaker and his wines can be enough to make it worthwhile for them.
Yes, thatās the essence. Wineries are in general not very good ROI investments, but we do have a lot of fun. This goes for the whole industry. They say āNever be a winemaker or a jazz musician unless you have to.ā
In this particular case, we have a good stock of high quality inventory and a solid 30-year reputation for experimental wines that age well. But due to the pandemic, we are carrying a lot of debt, so the short term goal of the enterprise is to get clean with creditors, which will take about three years. After that, I project decent if modest returns, but that alone wouldnāt justify joining the team.
Perks include twice-annual tastings through the vintages in barrel (usually about two dozen wines), decisions about blending and what to make next year. I send out videos of my winemaking activities. If you show up in California, we tour vineyards, meet with growers and I cook up our local delicacies such as Liberty duck breast and otherwise carouse. Investor status is essentially a back stage pass to how wine is really made. As my sidekick, you get to observe the techniques Iāve worked out over 64 vintages (14 in the Southern Hemisphere) and enjoy at-cost pricing on any WineSmith wines.
@GatorFL Having bought from (developed with/through) Woot/Casemates for the majority of my wine drinking years; there are a couple/few people who seem more like family than mere vendorsā¦Iām sure you can name them (if youāve been around for a whileā¦although I donāt recognize your handle). So, yes, for many of us, this is a proper venue.
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: tax and shipping are not included in savings calculations.)
2021 WineSmith Cellars Tannat - $40 = 14.28%
Ouch - Tough crowd. Iāve bought a high percentage of the WS offerings here including Roman Reserve and a Saint Laurent that was a bit fizzy. Itās a bummer but there have been other offerings that have been duds as well (JanKris and Rock Lobster Zin on the old site are top of mind).
Regarding the investment opportunity the first email I received about Harvest Partners was back in 2019 and I think itās a neat concept, although we havenāt participated yet. I donāt have a problem with the opportunity being shared as you donāt know what you donāt know but I can understand why others would like it to be cleaner.
With that said welcome back WineSmith - Iām glad you are here.
@sosptuba Ditto - I remember the harvest partners emails as well and even got a couple samples via somebody else from here who had joined. Seemed fun if Iād had a bunch of money to spend frivolously.
Wow. Iād been out of the market for like 5 years and just got back in (the Wellington selloff was my last purchase till recently). Always liked Winesmith before and jumped on a case as soon as it went up. Not super enthused by the posts I woke up to. I do have to say, not knowing the backstory at all, the āexplanationā from Clark comes off as somewhat flippant and uncaring.
I had the chance to try the 2021 WineSmith Tannat, and itās a wine with bold character and plenty to enjoy.
On the nose, itās packed with dark fruitsāblackberry and plum, with hints of cherry, leather, and a touch of baking spices.
The first sip reveals a smooth but structured wine. Itās medium-full-bodied with firm tannins that give it a nice grip without being overwhelming. The dark fruit flavors carry through, with blackberry and blackcurrant leading the way. Thereās a savory side too, with a touch of dried herbs and a little cocoa on the finish. The acidity keeps it fresh, and the finish is long and satisfying.
I paired it with grilled ribeye, and it worked beautifully. The wineās boldness stood up to the richness, while the acidity cut through the fat of the ribeye.
This offering is a solid pick for fans of bold reds. Definitely worth a try if you like wines with structure and depth.
Cheers to discovering new varietals! Let me know what you think if you try this one.
I know nothing about Tannat. Clark & the wines he was associated with have always been solid for me. Sometimes stuff happens, itās wine not Coca-Cola. I think some of the comments are but over the top. I purchased a case because I think I will enjoy this wine I know nothing about and to support Winesmith. This oneās for you Clark, Good Luck hope you succeed.
Happy Holidays
Appreciate Clark just throwing it out there. Not easy. We can buy or not. Iām intrigued, and Clark, totally interested in an investment opportunity. I live in Sonoma county, and we can see where this goes
@winesmith one of the Labrats thought it was a āmeal wineā not a ācocktail wineā you agree?
Second, how would you describe the varietal using other classic grapes like Cab, Syrah, Zin, Pinot etc ?
@karenhynes Simon and Garfunkle āThe Boxerā, Etta James āStormy Weatherā, Pratt Street Power - Winter Wonderland, Paul Robson āOld Man Riverā, Bruce Springsteen āRacing In the Streetā
Yannick Rousseauās Tannat is a very different treatment of Clarksburg Tannat. He goes for a riper, more extracted style with a lot more oak influence. More of a cocktail wine.
As you know, none of my wines are like that - always better with food and more built to age than to impress in youth. Given that, this is one of my more approachable offerings.
Tannat in general has triple the tannins of Cabernet Sauvignon and a character more like Charbono - nothing at all like Merlotās fatness, Pinotās red fruit, spice and depth, nor Zinfandelās graininess and raspberries. This one, however, is loaded with blueberries, more like my Norton than anything else I make. The silky tannins are like Texas Mourvedre or the plushest cool region Syrah.
Clark; wishing you the best on regaining control of WineSmith.(Say hi to Ruthey for us)
Weāve been long time supporters (way back to W00T 2008) and have enjoyed everything purchased.
Just ākilledā: sad to say, the last 2007 Crucible, still heavenly. I do have 2 of the 2005 Faux Chablis - just waiting for 2025 to come around. Looking forward to more great selections to comeā¦ Thanks Clark & WineDavid.
Good luck from me too. Iāve bought just about every one of Clarkeās offers since I joined here, and the one thing I have discovered is that his wines are never boring.
That CF wine was completely spoiled and should never have been put on sale. Iām certain it was tasted by the producer, and they knew about it before selling it. Theyāve completely lost credibility with me. There are thousands of wineries around the world, and Iām not willing to risk my time and money on another trashy wine. Itās going to take a long time for them to regain credibility. Start by selling it very cheaply because, for $20, I can get something more reliable and risk-free. Good luck to the brave ones.
@deadlyapp@grafos Not in the least. With so many (other) options available and the non-response to the RR fiasco, other than my taste is ātoo modernā, Iāll pass.
@deadlyapp@grafos tbh the Roman reserve issue in the mixed case and a vinegary rose a few years back. Iām not ruling out another wine smith purchase per se but will definitely think twice before doing so
@grafos@shrimp74 Did you guys even read the discussion above that I had with Clark about what happened?
Heās been fully honest with us, best I can tell. They refunded everybodyās money to make it right - at great cost to Clark and/or WCC since they still paid all that shipping cost.
What more would you have him do? Wine is a living product and shit happens sometimes.
As for those who are pissed about the Roman Reserve, well, suck it up. Clark has long been clear he thinks they are some of the best wines heās ever made. Maybe you didnāt like how he advertised it and maybe you have a point. But seriously - itās sound wine even if itās not to your liking. As Garagiste says āwe will replace all flawed bottles - flawed doesnāt mean āI donāt like itāā.
@grafos@klezman@shrimp74 I am upset because Clark said you maybe lucky to get one bottle of the Roman Reserve. When you already have plenty and half your case is the Roman Reserve, it is not truth in advertising. If Clark was honest and said, half your case would be the Roman Reserve, I would have taken a hard pass as I had plenty from previous offers. Just my three cents.
@danandlisa@grafos@shrimp74 I think thatās fair - but youāre also not here saying that Clark is a dishonest snake oil salesman or that it was such an awful thing that you would never buy his wines again.
Youāre absolutely right. However, what you fail to remember or mention is how that offer was (wrongly) advertised. Go back and read the comments from that fiasco. I just did - wow! You might be surprised to reread just how we were sold.
Before Iām told my tastes are too modern. Iāve been here since a two pack of Corison was $60 and max purchased it during regular and wā¦toff offers, and Peter W. offered a true mystery case for $150. Is Corison too modern of a taste?
I remember Sunday night clues, one offer per week, and the bouncing buy button. I look forward to every offer. But safe to say that no offer has been billed as something that it truly wasnāt in those 15 years. And Iām not sure anything could in the future.
@grafos@klezman@shrimp74@klezman not sure what you mean by suck it up. I was expecting maybe a Roman bottle and ended up with six. Turns out everyone else did so you may want to hold your horses. I felt then, and still do, we were mislead and that doesnāt sit well with me
@grafos@klezman@shrimp74 I trusted Clark. I love his wines. There was no apology from Clark. My trust is broken. Maybe, someday, that will be okay, but not today. It does not take much to say, sorry. My mind goes to him wanted to offload wine to people with no thought. That is not how I thought of Clark. He is no longer on my auto buy list.
But seriously - itās sound wine even if itās not to your liking.
Tonight I decided to open a Roman Reserve to see how itās doing. Iām sure if you and Clark himself were to taste this blindly, youād both say this wine is not sound. To be blunt, itās vinegar. If I were tasting this blindly, Iād think I was handed a glass of wine thatās been sitting out on the counter at room temp for several days.
Many of us know Clark quite well and can agree he makes incredible wines. I highly respect him, his talent, and his knowledge of oenology. Itās always a pleasure to interact with him here and learn from him. Which makes it all the more frustrating when we were mislead about how much RR we would get, the fact that the wine IS off, and there was nothing done to make things right. The people that received a refund for the CF were fortunate. The people that got the RR were left with a sour taste in their mouth, figuratively and literally.
@grafos@shrimp74 interesting. I did just go back and read a bunch of the comments and what I noticed was that the offer didnāt say anything about the possible wines, only that it was all reds.
Then I saw that Clark chimed in with the infamous comment about being lucky enough to get a bottle of the Roman reserve only about 30 minutes before the offer sold out. There had already been multiple requests to re-up the cases by then.
So while I still understand the bitter (or sour, as the case may be) taste that left behind, it looks like nearly everybody who bought that offer did so before Clarkās incorrect comment. If you were among those few who bought after his comment, hoping that youād be āunluckyā and not get a Roman reserve then I do feel for you.
I also revisited the thread and was reminded of how much of a pain the logistics were.
I proactively exchanged several messages with Casemates staff (publicly and privately via whispers) in order to prevent any delivery issues.
The issues happened anyways and while out of the county for my first ever vacation overseas, I spent hours on the phone with UPS (as did you, I believe) and also exchanged more messages with Casemates staff trying to resolve the issues, to no avail.
The delivery address was never updated by WCC, the package was never rerouted, and the package was delivered and simply left on my front steps (free for any porch pirates to take). Fortunately I had family save the day by picking it up before it disappeared.
In the end, half of the case seems to be undrinkable, which adds insult to injury.
I understand crap happens, and I truly hope Clark is able to successfully get things back on track. But I also understand why many people have lost trust in him, and I think more could/should have been done to make things right.
@kawichris650 Yes, the logistics for that one were crazy. I had forgotten that was the offer where that happened until I went and reread much of the thread.
I also understand that two bad experiences in a short time with Clarkās wines/offers could have soured people. For me, pending my assessment of the 2023 batch of RR CF, I havenāt been wronged. And I feel bad for the wringer Clark has gone through.
@kawichris650@klezman
This conversation reminded me that I had opened another Roman Reserve about two months or so ago. About the 5th Iāve opened. One of these was obviously infected and dumped immediately. I had been having a glass of the latest every week or so and I had forgot that I had left a glass or two in the decanter. I figured it had to be vinegar by now and decided to finally toss it, but decided to try it first. Sitting so long, it had dropped a thin layer of sediment. Aroma was āwiney.ā No discernable fruit, not acetic, maybe alcohol. Color was brick red. Body was medium. Iām still puzzling over the taste. Seem to be getting some oak and tannins, with a tiny amount of fruit. The truly bizarre thing is that after sitting in a stoppered decanter at room temperature for 2 months, itās evolving in the glass. A bit of fruit comes and goes, as does a bit of bitterness in the really long finish. One sip itās there and the next itās gone. The wine sort of reminds me of my cousinās grandadās wine that we used to sneak when we were kids. He was an ancient Italian and some of it was chianti and he and his buddies used to make some of it.
Itās not my favorite wine by far, but with this bottle I think Iām beginning to understand where Clark was going with this. Iāll keep opening one every 6 months or so, and enjoy it for what it is.
@danandlisa
I think itās more an educational experience than really liking it. I did open a 2019 Tannat the other night and it was fantastic. Mad me wish Iād got more of this offer.
I have always loved Clarkās Tannat. Iām in. Iām cooking Sheppardās Pie with locally grown Amador lamb. I still have some of Clarkās Tannat in my cellar. It will be the perfect wine.
Iām in. I will try the wine. There is no guarantee that it will suit my palate but the past offers are not all home runs.
I do understand those that feel they were taken advantage of by the previous offers. Clark Smith seems pretty up front as to what happened. Good luck to him on righting the ship and future endeavors. We all deserve a 2nd chance.
I have never chimed in. I read the responses from the more educated to determine whether I will make a purchase or not. Thanks to all. A good holiday season to all. Cheers
Itās been a crazy weekend or Iād have been here earlier, and looking over the notes/comments on this offer, other than the pic, not sure I have really much to add.
Iām all over the place on what I drink and like; leaning to reds in a more classical style and avoiding the extracted fruit-in-your-face style that has been popular for, imo, too long now.
That said, I like this, poured from a 375 I got a number of years ago as I think barrel sample.
No meal to speak of to pair with this, just some leftover ham and a bit of Jasper HIll Willoughby soft cheese and crackers.
This did have a pleasing nose at twist & pour, not overwhelming but clearly one could detect upon entering the room a bottle had been opened and a glass poured.
Appearance was generally clear, but not brilliantly so. Hopefully you can see the deposits left on the clear glass bottle in the pic, and there was some sediment at the bottom.
Upon tasting, nothing out of whack and all well balanced; tannins, acid and fruit. Tannins amazingly in check, and actually quite soft from what one might expect.
I could easily drink this as a cocktail glass, no problems. However with the ham, cheese and crackers it was a fine complement. Humm, sell on cheese, buy on bread?
Finish is lengthy, with a kind of citrus thing going on; no astringency, just a suggestion of citrus.
Iāve long known Clark and have triple digit holdings of 34 different bottlings in my cellar; Iām in for the small offer if only due to storage limitations.
If itās anything like my sample, give it a chanceā¦
Iām a big fan of WineSmith. Iāve got a few assorted bottles in my cellar, purchased from this site but the Tannat is new to me. I look forward to trying this grape, and if I had lots of extra funds, Iād definitely invest in the future.
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2021 WineSmith Tannat, Heringer Vineyards
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2021 WineSmith Cellars Tannat
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2021 Winesmith Tannat
Greetings and Happy Holidays, Casemateys! We were doubly fortunate to be selected as lab rats and to experience a new varietal in the process. SWMBO and I knew very little about this grape and were anxious to learn more. So, letās get this party started!
We felt a new varietal needed a decent pairing. We selected a Flannery lamb loin roast for the job. After reading the label, I was a bit concerned the lamb might overpower the wine. This fear was unfounded.
On PnP, we found a reticent nose. I detected some red fruit in there, but not much else. Color was a deep garnet, clear with no sediment. The wine definitely felt young which was no surprise with it being a 2021.
On the palate, we found a dry, light to medium bodied red wine with good acid and moderate tannins. We had no basis for comparison but did not find the tannin bomb that, according to the winemaker, is expected with this grape. The micro-ox magic Clark performed had the intended effect.
The wine was quite balanced with fruit, acid and tannin playing well together. This was not a fruity wine, and definitely expressed itself on the austere side. The milder tannins kept everything in balance. The 12.9% ABV was greatly appreciated, with no heat or ethanol anywhere to be found. The finish was quite long, clocking in at a good 15sec.
We felt this wine was at its best when paired with food. The aforementioned lamb was a great match with the wineās acidity. It cut through the fat quite nicely, cleansing our palates. We also tried the wine with two desserts: pecan squares and Ghirardelli chocolate/peppermint squares. Each was a lovely compliment.
This wine is not a fruit bomb, cocktail wine. While approachable, it will do best with meals. Where the wine will go from here is a great question. Our lack of experience with the grape leaves us wondering how things will evolve over the next 3-5 years. Will it gain complexity? Will the fruit assert itself more over time? Thatās the beauty of wine. We can experience it in all its stages and follow its progress for the long haul. Itās one of the great joys of this hobby. We did save a glass or two for tomorrow and plan to report back with any changes overnight.
Thanks, as always, to Alice, WD and all the great folks at Casemates for the opportunity to share our thoughts. Cheers!
I love this grape. I love how Clark made this wine sing in past vintages. I donāt like how Clark treated the last mystery case as I was stuck with wine I could not drink. I wish I could say this is worth the increased price since it was last offered here, but I canāt. I am sad.
Greetings, O Ye Casemateers!
I suppose you all are wondering where Iāve been these last two years and what the hell happened to the 2017 Cab Franc that had to be recalled.
Big things are happening. A little background.
Like many wineries, I had my ass handed to me in the pandemic, when sales essentially dropped to zero. I had to take on a lot of high interest debt in hopes that things would not last as long as they did. But lucky me: my host winery offered to purchase a controlling share of my brand, take over my debt, build a tasting room, and pay me a stipend to continue making the brand.
Unfortunately, things didnāt go as planned. Our infrastructure sort of collapsed, leading to the unfortunate bottling of the CF without my approval. My apologies. Anyhow, my partners acknowledged that the deal isnāt working and agreed to an amicable divorce in which I get the wine back and reassume all debts and obligations.
I have formed WineSmith Harvest Partners LLC to operate the brand and am lining up micro-investors. Despite the gloom and doom in the national press, the small winery cohort of the industry is actually quite healthy. The market share weāre losing is the naĆÆve beginner who doesnāt really get what wine is about. Good riddance I say. This leaves folks like you who appreciate the WineSmith aesthetic as a higher percentage of the market.
Iām really excited to have control of WineSmith returned. The WineSmith renaissance project is going to be quite an undertaking, but Iām eager to wade in and make it happen. If any of you are interested in a modest investment opportunity, I can guarantee you wonāt make any money but youāll have more fun than you can imagine. Minimum buy-in is $10K.
Now, on to todayās offering. Tannat is close to my heart, as it was the traditional grape of Madiran and the reason my guru Patrick Ducournau invented micro-oxygenation. Iāve made it all over the world, always using my training to tame its remorseless tannins.
That said, this Heringer Estate vineyard in Clarksburg gives us nothing of the sort. Itās hands-down the most feminine and aromatically expressive Tannat on the planet. Those of you who snapped up the entire 2019 vintage will recognize this as more of the same. Itās sure to be in the rear-view mirror by Sunday night.
So good to be back in the saddle.
@winesmith
Clark, can you comment more on this? Are you saying they bottled a wine you thought was bad and then made you defend it here?
@klezman No, I did not know they were bottling it until I was notified a week later. The wine tasted fine months previous and I expected it to be okay. The casemates offer went out just after bottling, and it was only after we got a negative lab rat report (the other one was quite positive) that I realized something was wrong and sent it out to a lab, after which we refunded everyoneās payments.
Iāve been extremely vigilant in the wake of this incident. Iām very happy to have control back in my hands.
@winesmith Any idea what happened to make it turn the wrong way? The labs reveal anything?
(I didnāt get that offer and my interest is mostly in the nerdy realm, fwiw.)
@klezman
Yes, I know exactly what happened. The wine was housed in another winery where it was moved to some Acetobacter-infected barrels. I saw this happening and moved the wine to a tank in our facility and discarded the barrels. I hired a talented guy with a reverse osmosis unit to come and treat the wine, which he did successfully and with great care.
This was the invention I patented in 1995. The way it works is you pump the wine tangentially along a filter so tight that only water, alcohol and acetic acid can pass - no color or flavor, and no bacteria, all of which remain in the wine. The colorless liquid that permeates the membrane is then passed through a resin that removes the acetic acid. The cleaned permeate (just alcohol and water) is then returned to the wine.
Soon after this is done, the wine needs to be sterile filtered and bottled or it will just go bad again. I continually warned my partners that this could happen, but they said they didnāt have the money to bottle and just let the wine sit for several months. They werenāt even monitoring the VA since they owed the lab money.
If you know my Lake County Cab Franc, you know that itās highly structured and has a lot of minerally palate energy from the volcanic soil. As such, itās surprisingly adept at hiding VA, especially to my partners, who werenāt skilled in tasting.
In mid September, I received notice that they had gone ahead and bottled the wine, just in time for the Casemates offer which we ran. As you know, disaster ensued. As soon as we figured out what had happened, WineDavid and I determined that we needed to refund everybodyās money. This incident convinced me that I needed to regain control and undo our deal.
@winesmith What a shitty sequence of events.
So if you had the guy come and do the RO, howcome the wine remained tainted? You needed to let the wine sit to see if all the acetobacter was gone and caused no further problems but they didnāt?
@klezman No, I knew that we still had plenty of bacteria present, as the RO does nothing to remove them. We needed to sterile filter and bottle immediately, which is what I kept insisting. Unfortunately, I wasnāt in control and the host winery principals didnāt listen to me. Instead they waited several months and then bottled without testing.
@winesmith Oh, they did the RO but not the sterile filtering. Well obviously thatās not going to work once you put the alcohol back in for the acetobacter to eat and turn into acetic acidā¦
@klezman Itās obvious to me, but youād be amazed how many winemakers think the membrane is so tight that it must remove the bacteria!
@winesmith But thatās nonsensical. RO only lets molecules the size of water and EtOH through. Thatās kind of the point. Bacteria are way larger than that. Sigh.
Iām still unable to shake off the Roman reserve fiasco. There are six bottles in the corner of my bar that constantly remind me. Not sure why I canāt bring myself to dumping them.
@losthighwayz +1. I remember how so many of us were amazingly āluckyā enough to receive 6 RR bottles. No way I could forget both that, and the CF debacle. No more gambling. Iāll stick with my Bouza Tannat. Good luck in your new venture, Clark.
@losthighwayz @shrimp74 Iāve quite enjoyed the tasting journey the Roman Reserve bottles have given me so far. Obviously those are the epitome of ymmv bottles.
@klezman @losthighwayz @shrimp74
Aināt it the truth. Although the wine is sound and quite consistent, it definitely does not run with the traffic modern palates are used to. This also used to be true of so-called āorangeā wines (I hate that term, but have grown to love the style, as have many others).
The wine isnāt mine, though I did make it for Two Jakes of Diamonds, and Jake Stephens is quite fond of it. In my current circumstances, I donāt know how to make it right with yāall, but Iād like to try.
I wonder if those of you who love the style would like to do a deal with those who donāt. If so, please whisper with losthighwayz.
Meantime, let me assure you that the 2021 Tannatās winemaking is quite conventional and widely enjoyed, just like the 2019.
How is it an āinvestment opportunityā, if you are guaranteed to not make money?
ā If any of you are interested in a modest investment opportunity, I can guarantee you wonāt make any money but youāll have more fun than you can imagine. Minimum buy-in is $10K.ā
I think you do not know the meaning of the words investment, opportunity, or guarantee. Possibly you are a bit unclear on the terms modest, money and fun also.
Nevertheless anyone that leads with excuses in place of explanations is a shyster.
@Eron
Sometimes venture capitalism is more like philanthropy. At least Clark is telling you upfront that you probably wonāt make any money. I am assuming there are āperksā to being a micro-investor, and for people with money to burn, having direct access to a winemaker and his wines can be enough to make it worthwhile for them.
@chipgreen @Eron
Yes, thatās the essence. Wineries are in general not very good ROI investments, but we do have a lot of fun. This goes for the whole industry. They say āNever be a winemaker or a jazz musician unless you have to.ā
In this particular case, we have a good stock of high quality inventory and a solid 30-year reputation for experimental wines that age well. But due to the pandemic, we are carrying a lot of debt, so the short term goal of the enterprise is to get clean with creditors, which will take about three years. After that, I project decent if modest returns, but that alone wouldnāt justify joining the team.
Perks include twice-annual tastings through the vintages in barrel (usually about two dozen wines), decisions about blending and what to make next year. I send out videos of my winemaking activities. If you show up in California, we tour vineyards, meet with growers and I cook up our local delicacies such as Liberty duck breast and otherwise carouse. Investor status is essentially a back stage pass to how wine is really made. As my sidekick, you get to observe the techniques Iāve worked out over 64 vintages (14 in the Southern Hemisphere) and enjoy at-cost pricing on any WineSmith wines.
@Eron FWIW I read that as a rather tongue in cheek but accurate description of investing in a winery.
Is a Casemates offer the proper venue for fundraising investors?
@GatorFL @WineSmith I think the skyās the limit here
@GatorFL @ttboy23 @winesmith
He mentioned it briefly and moved on. Why is this the focus of discussion?
@GatorFL In my opinion, yes - especially when the fundraising part has a minor, ancillary role.
@GatorFL Having bought from (developed with/through) Woot/Casemates for the majority of my wine drinking years; there are a couple/few people who seem more like family than mere vendorsā¦Iām sure you can name them (if youāve been around for a whileā¦although I donāt recognize your handle). So, yes, for many of us, this is a proper venue.
@FritzCat Iāve been here from the beginning, I actually joined the Kickstarter to get Casemates up and running.
@FritzCat @GatorFL many of us joined for that purpose but not that purpose aloneā¦
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: tax and shipping are not included in savings calculations.)
2021 WineSmith Cellars Tannat - $40 = 14.28%
If you refunded everyone for the Roman Reserve CF, I guess the check is still in the mail because I havenāt seen it!
@cdgrimm
Wrong Cab Franc.
Ouch - Tough crowd. Iāve bought a high percentage of the WS offerings here including Roman Reserve and a Saint Laurent that was a bit fizzy. Itās a bummer but there have been other offerings that have been duds as well (JanKris and Rock Lobster Zin on the old site are top of mind).
Regarding the investment opportunity the first email I received about Harvest Partners was back in 2019 and I think itās a neat concept, although we havenāt participated yet. I donāt have a problem with the opportunity being shared as you donāt know what you donāt know but I can understand why others would like it to be cleaner.
With that said welcome back WineSmith - Iām glad you are here.
@sosptuba Ditto - I remember the harvest partners emails as well and even got a couple samples via somebody else from here who had joined. Seemed fun if Iād had a bunch of money to spend frivolously.
Thatās why I love casemates. And thatās why I will keep purchasing here.
Wow. Iād been out of the market for like 5 years and just got back in (the Wellington selloff was my last purchase till recently). Always liked Winesmith before and jumped on a case as soon as it went up. Not super enthused by the posts I woke up to. I do have to say, not knowing the backstory at all, the āexplanationā from Clark comes off as somewhat flippant and uncaring.
Hello fellow Casemates!
I had the chance to try the 2021 WineSmith Tannat, and itās a wine with bold character and plenty to enjoy.
On the nose, itās packed with dark fruitsāblackberry and plum, with hints of cherry, leather, and a touch of baking spices.
The first sip reveals a smooth but structured wine. Itās medium-full-bodied with firm tannins that give it a nice grip without being overwhelming. The dark fruit flavors carry through, with blackberry and blackcurrant leading the way. Thereās a savory side too, with a touch of dried herbs and a little cocoa on the finish. The acidity keeps it fresh, and the finish is long and satisfying.
I paired it with grilled ribeye, and it worked beautifully. The wineās boldness stood up to the richness, while the acidity cut through the fat of the ribeye.
This offering is a solid pick for fans of bold reds. Definitely worth a try if you like wines with structure and depth.
Cheers to discovering new varietals! Let me know what you think if you try this one.
This is an excellent description. Thanks for getting us back on track.
I know nothing about Tannat. Clark & the wines he was associated with have always been solid for me. Sometimes stuff happens, itās wine not Coca-Cola. I think some of the comments are but over the top. I purchased a case because I think I will enjoy this wine I know nothing about and to support Winesmith. This oneās for you Clark, Good Luck hope you succeed.
Happy Holidays
Likeable-Rigid-Kraken
Appreciate Clark just throwing it out there. Not easy. We can buy or not. Iām intrigued, and Clark, totally interested in an investment opportunity. I live in Sonoma county, and we can see where this goes
This offer is really something you donāt want to miss out on. Anybody want to talk about Tannat?
@winesmith
Sure. Have you tasted any of Yannick Rousseauās Tannats? If so, can you compare and contrast with yours?
@winesmith one of the Labrats thought it was a āmeal wineā not a ācocktail wineā you agree?
Second, how would you describe the varietal using other classic grapes like Cab, Syrah, Zin, Pinot etc ?
@winesmith
ā¦and of course, what are the music recommendations?
@karenhynes Simon and Garfunkle āThe Boxerā, Etta James āStormy Weatherā, Pratt Street Power - Winter Wonderland, Paul Robson āOld Man Riverā, Bruce Springsteen āRacing In the Streetā
Yannick Rousseauās Tannat is a very different treatment of Clarksburg Tannat. He goes for a riper, more extracted style with a lot more oak influence. More of a cocktail wine.
As you know, none of my wines are like that - always better with food and more built to age than to impress in youth. Given that, this is one of my more approachable offerings.
Tannat in general has triple the tannins of Cabernet Sauvignon and a character more like Charbono - nothing at all like Merlotās fatness, Pinotās red fruit, spice and depth, nor Zinfandelās graininess and raspberries. This one, however, is loaded with blueberries, more like my Norton than anything else I make. The silky tannins are like Texas Mourvedre or the plushest cool region Syrah.
Clark; wishing you the best on regaining control of WineSmith.(Say hi to Ruthey for us)
Weāve been long time supporters (way back to W00T 2008) and have enjoyed everything purchased.
Just ākilledā: sad to say, the last 2007 Crucible, still heavenly. I do have 2 of the 2005 Faux Chablis - just waiting for 2025 to come around. Looking forward to more great selections to comeā¦
Thanks Clark & WineDavid.
Good luck from me too. Iāve bought just about every one of Clarkeās offers since I joined here, and the one thing I have discovered is that his wines are never boring.
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That CF wine was completely spoiled and should never have been put on sale. Iām certain it was tasted by the producer, and they knew about it before selling it. Theyāve completely lost credibility with me. There are thousands of wineries around the world, and Iām not willing to risk my time and money on another trashy wine. Itās going to take a long time for them to regain credibility. Start by selling it very cheaply because, for $20, I can get something more reliable and risk-free. Good luck to the brave ones.
@grafos FACTS!
@grafos in the same vein, out of how many other offers and bottles of WS have been perfectly fine to completely write off a producer with one wine?
People are so finicky.
@deadlyapp @grafos Not in the least. With so many (other) options available and the non-response to the RR fiasco, other than my taste is ātoo modernā, Iāll pass.
@deadlyapp @grafos tbh the Roman reserve issue in the mixed case and a vinegary rose a few years back. Iām not ruling out another wine smith purchase per se but will definitely think twice before doing so
@grafos @shrimp74 Did you guys even read the discussion above that I had with Clark about what happened?
Heās been fully honest with us, best I can tell. They refunded everybodyās money to make it right - at great cost to Clark and/or WCC since they still paid all that shipping cost.
What more would you have him do? Wine is a living product and shit happens sometimes.
As for those who are pissed about the Roman Reserve, well, suck it up. Clark has long been clear he thinks they are some of the best wines heās ever made. Maybe you didnāt like how he advertised it and maybe you have a point. But seriously - itās sound wine even if itās not to your liking. As Garagiste says āwe will replace all flawed bottles - flawed doesnāt mean āI donāt like itāā.
@grafos @klezman Youāre absolutely right. However, Gary fail remwmber
@grafos @klezman @shrimp74 I am upset because Clark said you maybe lucky to get one bottle of the Roman Reserve. When you already have plenty and half your case is the Roman Reserve, it is not truth in advertising. If Clark was honest and said, half your case would be the Roman Reserve, I would have taken a hard pass as I had plenty from previous offers. Just my three cents.
@danandlisa @grafos @shrimp74 I think thatās fair - but youāre also not here saying that Clark is a dishonest snake oil salesman or that it was such an awful thing that you would never buy his wines again.
@grafos @klezman Letās try this.
Youāre absolutely right. However, what you fail to remember or mention is how that offer was (wrongly) advertised. Go back and read the comments from that fiasco. I just did - wow! You might be surprised to reread just how we were sold.
Before Iām told my tastes are too modern. Iāve been here since a two pack of Corison was $60 and max purchased it during regular and wā¦toff offers, and Peter W. offered a true mystery case for $150. Is Corison too modern of a taste?
I remember Sunday night clues, one offer per week, and the bouncing buy button. I look forward to every offer. But safe to say that no offer has been billed as something that it truly wasnāt in those 15 years. And Iām not sure anything could in the future.
@grafos @klezman @shrimp74 @klezman not sure what you mean by suck it up. I was expecting maybe a Roman bottle and ended up with six. Turns out everyone else did so you may want to hold your horses. I felt then, and still do, we were mislead and that doesnāt sit well with me
@grafos @klezman @shrimp74 I trusted Clark. I love his wines. There was no apology from Clark. My trust is broken. Maybe, someday, that will be okay, but not today. It does not take much to say, sorry. My mind goes to him wanted to offload wine to people with no thought. That is not how I thought of Clark. He is no longer on my auto buy list.
@klezman
Tonight I decided to open a Roman Reserve to see how itās doing. Iām sure if you and Clark himself were to taste this blindly, youād both say this wine is not sound. To be blunt, itās vinegar. If I were tasting this blindly, Iād think I was handed a glass of wine thatās been sitting out on the counter at room temp for several days.
Many of us know Clark quite well and can agree he makes incredible wines. I highly respect him, his talent, and his knowledge of oenology. Itās always a pleasure to interact with him here and learn from him. Which makes it all the more frustrating when we were mislead about how much RR we would get, the fact that the wine IS off, and there was nothing done to make things right. The people that received a refund for the CF were fortunate. The people that got the RR were left with a sour taste in their mouth, figuratively and literally.
@grafos @shrimp74 interesting. I did just go back and read a bunch of the comments and what I noticed was that the offer didnāt say anything about the possible wines, only that it was all reds.
Then I saw that Clark chimed in with the infamous comment about being lucky enough to get a bottle of the Roman reserve only about 30 minutes before the offer sold out. There had already been multiple requests to re-up the cases by then.
So while I still understand the bitter (or sour, as the case may be) taste that left behind, it looks like nearly everybody who bought that offer did so before Clarkās incorrect comment. If you were among those few who bought after his comment, hoping that youād be āunluckyā and not get a Roman reserve then I do feel for you.
@klezman
I also revisited the thread and was reminded of how much of a pain the logistics were.
I proactively exchanged several messages with Casemates staff (publicly and privately via whispers) in order to prevent any delivery issues.
The issues happened anyways and while out of the county for my first ever vacation overseas, I spent hours on the phone with UPS (as did you, I believe) and also exchanged more messages with Casemates staff trying to resolve the issues, to no avail.
The delivery address was never updated by WCC, the package was never rerouted, and the package was delivered and simply left on my front steps (free for any porch pirates to take). Fortunately I had family save the day by picking it up before it disappeared.
In the end, half of the case seems to be undrinkable, which adds insult to injury.
I understand crap happens, and I truly hope Clark is able to successfully get things back on track. But I also understand why many people have lost trust in him, and I think more could/should have been done to make things right.
@kawichris650 Yes, the logistics for that one were crazy. I had forgotten that was the offer where that happened until I went and reread much of the thread.
I also understand that two bad experiences in a short time with Clarkās wines/offers could have soured people. For me, pending my assessment of the 2023 batch of RR CF, I havenāt been wronged. And I feel bad for the wringer Clark has gone through.
@kawichris650 @klezman
This conversation reminded me that I had opened another Roman Reserve about two months or so ago. About the 5th Iāve opened. One of these was obviously infected and dumped immediately. I had been having a glass of the latest every week or so and I had forgot that I had left a glass or two in the decanter. I figured it had to be vinegar by now and decided to finally toss it, but decided to try it first. Sitting so long, it had dropped a thin layer of sediment. Aroma was āwiney.ā No discernable fruit, not acetic, maybe alcohol. Color was brick red. Body was medium. Iām still puzzling over the taste. Seem to be getting some oak and tannins, with a tiny amount of fruit. The truly bizarre thing is that after sitting in a stoppered decanter at room temperature for 2 months, itās evolving in the glass. A bit of fruit comes and goes, as does a bit of bitterness in the really long finish. One sip itās there and the next itās gone. The wine sort of reminds me of my cousinās grandadās wine that we used to sneak when we were kids. He was an ancient Italian and some of it was chianti and he and his buddies used to make some of it.
Itās not my favorite wine by far, but with this bottle I think Iām beginning to understand where Clark was going with this. Iāll keep opening one every 6 months or so, and enjoy it for what it is.
@Springbank I am happy you like it. I canāt drink it. I am okay with it, but Clark is no longer an auto buy for me. It is , hmm, do I dare.
@danandlisa
I think itās more an educational experience than really liking it. I did open a 2019 Tannat the other night and it was fantastic. Mad me wish Iād got more of this offer.
I have always loved Clarkās Tannat. Iām in. Iām cooking Sheppardās Pie with locally grown Amador lamb. I still have some of Clarkās Tannat in my cellar. It will be the perfect wine.
Iām in. I will try the wine. There is no guarantee that it will suit my palate but the past offers are not all home runs.
I do understand those that feel they were taken advantage of by the previous offers. Clark Smith seems pretty up front as to what happened. Good luck to him on righting the ship and future endeavors. We all deserve a 2nd chance.
I have never chimed in. I read the responses from the more educated to determine whether I will make a purchase or not. Thanks to all. A good holiday season to all. Cheers
of the faux variety
Itās been a crazy weekend or Iād have been here earlier, and looking over the notes/comments on this offer, other than the pic, not sure I have really much to add.
Iām all over the place on what I drink and like; leaning to reds in a more classical style and avoiding the extracted fruit-in-your-face style that has been popular for, imo, too long now.
That said, I like this, poured from a 375 I got a number of years ago as I think barrel sample.
No meal to speak of to pair with this, just some leftover ham and a bit of Jasper HIll Willoughby soft cheese and crackers.
This did have a pleasing nose at twist & pour, not overwhelming but clearly one could detect upon entering the room a bottle had been opened and a glass poured.
Appearance was generally clear, but not brilliantly so. Hopefully you can see the deposits left on the clear glass bottle in the pic, and there was some sediment at the bottom.
Upon tasting, nothing out of whack and all well balanced; tannins, acid and fruit. Tannins amazingly in check, and actually quite soft from what one might expect.
I could easily drink this as a cocktail glass, no problems. However with the ham, cheese and crackers it was a fine complement. Humm, sell on cheese, buy on bread?
Finish is lengthy, with a kind of citrus thing going on; no astringency, just a suggestion of citrus.
Iāve long known Clark and have triple digit holdings of 34 different bottlings in my cellar; Iām in for the small offer if only due to storage limitations.
If itās anything like my sample, give it a chanceā¦
glistening-lucky-cookie
Iām a big fan of WineSmith. Iāve got a few assorted bottles in my cellar, purchased from this site but the Tannat is new to me. I look forward to trying this grape, and if I had lots of extra funds, Iād definitely invest in the future.
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