Cabernet is an almost “perfect grape” when well grown….balanced between fruit, astringency, power, perfume and, of course….redness. I love Cab and always have.
This is our third release of Esoterica Cabernet Sauvignon. I made this tiny lot using a wonderful blend of North Coast grapes from several different vineyards, mostly in Sonoma County’s Alexander Valley and Dry Creek appellations. It is always a pleasure to make small blends like this as they allow for “fine tuning” to get the fruit, tannins, mouthfeel and balance just right without the constraints of big commercial blends.
With the Pinot Noir, initial aromas of cherry and raspberry evolve to include subtle notes of toast and leather in this immediately appealing wine. The red fruit aromas are reinforced on the palate where dried cherry flavors, supported by just a hint of varietal earthiness, are carried nimbly forward by the silky-smooth tannins and pinpoint acidity.
This wine will pair beautifully with simple, grilled salmon or sage-dusted pork tenderloin.
After over thirty years of making wine, Kent Rasmussen Winery is as busy as ever and our passion remains as strong as ever.
Kent Rasmussen and wife, Celia Ramsay, ran the family winery they started in 1986 at their beautiful facility in St. Helena. Unlike most wineries in the Napa Valley, they never wanted to have a public presence in the form of a tasting room, but sell their wines in Bay Area & California restaurants & stores, and in 28 other states.
Famous for the Kent Rasmussen and Ramsay brand wines, and best known for making “purely poetic Pinot Noir”, the couple raised their family of four on the Silverado Trail property.The kids grew up and Kent and Celia realized they longed for a more urban life. They moved their winemaking operations to share another family-run facility owned by their long-time friend, Stefano Migotto in Napa. Then they bought a home in Berkeley. With a very reasonable reverse-commute to Napa, Kent is happy to be back in the southern end of the Napa Valley, especially since his original winemaking start was in the Napa-Carneros.
Since its modest beginnings in a garage in 1986, the Kent Rasmussen Winery has evolved as its owner’s lives have changed. It continues to be one of the most important Pinot Noir producers in California.
AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, ID, IL, IA, KS, LA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NJ, NM, NY, NC, ND, OH, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY
I will say these first three wine offers have looked tempting. But it’s been easy to save the cash because yet again, Indiana is left behind. I’m starting to think that this will be the standard availability for Casemates offerings.
@andrd Where are you in IN? Perhaps you could get someone in IL to hold your wine. For example, I go to Merrillville (FedEx) intermittently to pick up wine that does not ship to IL. So, if you are near there, we could meet.
@andrd are ever in the Nashville area? You are more than welcome to ship your wine to Nashville and I’ll store it in my cellar until we can rendezvous. We called wootlegging on the WW forum and need to come up with a name for CM forum.
@jmdavidson1 I’m in Indy, so cinci is only 45 minutes away, but driving more than 30 minutes anywhere in Indiana is an exercise in boredom, and not really worth the time. I also have a unique situation where I have access to all of the distributors in the state, so I can order whatever I want for myself as long as they carry it. I was hoping Casemates would allow me to try some things that we can’t buy in Indiana. I know with our busted up laws (they just voted against allowing certain stores to sell cold beer again) it was going to be a roll of the dice. I was just hoping the initial offerings would be available to the states listed in the kickstarter. I wonder if the remote party packs will end up being unavailable to IN as well.
@transplant Looks like 1/29-1/31. So just a day too soon. I hadn’t thought about getting it shipped to a fedex center out of state before. Depending on how long they can hold the delivery before I come get it, that could work out. Then I can go to the Cinci IKEA so I can continue avoiding Fishers.
@andrd IN only recently opened up direct shipping from out of state wineries to consumers. Most likely, a lot of wineries have not yet gotten licensed to ship there but it should gradually change.
The good news is that according to the following blurb from the Casemates Kickstarter campaign, IN is an available ship-to state.
(Depending on each Winery’s registration status, up to 92.14% of the US population can currently receive the winery direct shipments offered on Casemates. At this time the following states are excluded: Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Utah.)
@chipgreen Yes, I read the same Kickstarter campaign which is why I chose to sign up. I am just expressing my sadness that one or some of the non-excluded states listed in the kickstarter have been excluded for the first week of the site’s opening. I’m not sure if you actually read any comments or wanted to try to teach us all via copypaste. I believe the ‘recent’ opening up of direct shipments is coming up on 3 years, too.
2016 Kent Rasmussen North Coast Coast Cabernet Sauvignon Esoterica
Disclaimer: I messed up on the date for this and was going to have a small group I work and taste with gather for this tomorrow, Friday. Yeah, it launches on Friday, but it’s Thursday out here; FAIL.
My normal commute home is ~30 minutes, this evening it was 90+; thank you drivers.
Some from ww will know me and my palate, and some of those will question it .
I like my reds. CS, PS, Syrah, Zin and blends. PN as well, while the bright fruity ones are ok, the earthy ones are my wheelhouse. Whites have their place as well, assuming they are interesting.
I don’t much care for fruit-in-your-face anything, but rather prefer a restrained ‘old world’ style, preferably with some age on it; at least 10+ years from vintage for any decent CS. Opening a 2016 Cabernet in 2018 is a painful task, and but for science it wouldn’t have happened.
So much for the preamble, it’s longer than the notes for this evening.
Yup, in for a case. A total no-brainer auto-buy.
Your order number is: used-glorious-gum
The result is a PnP quickie for this evening, with respectable notes tomorrow. At least we’ll have three days to discuss this one.
Appearance: Clear, medium maroon, with only tinges of darker purples one might expect in a young CS.
Aroma: @ PnP, 20.8C, lots of dark fruits, barrel room, hints of vanilla.
Initial taste: Follows aroma. Sweet, but not from RS, it’s the fruit; minimal earth and wood. Nice acid balance and surprisingly fine tannins, only slightly drying. Medium-long finish.
This, for me, is a rather elegant CS, lighter, almost Pinot like at this stage.
After 90 minutes or so, and at a bit warmer temperature, it has become more interesting, but the profile hasn’t changed all that much. This is way too easy to drink at this stage, and for me, surprising for a CS this young.
At this point it has a nice balance and would be quite food friendly, but not for heavy fare.
Going to recork without Ar with about 175 ml off the top and leave on the counter to see how this evolves for chapter two, tomorrow.
@rjquillin You newcomers from wine.woot sure like your abbreviations! For us dumb meh veterans, what do “PnP” and “RS” mean? From context I get that CS, PS, and PN are varietals. And I know Ar is Argon because I’ve worked with chemists and I know what noble gasses are.
@merrybill Judging by RJs description; fine tannins, light, easy drinking. For such a young wine with mostly CS in it, I doubt it is made to age for a long time. Without tasting the wine I won’t speculate any more than that.
Looking at the notes provided by Kent, I’d be curious to know what grapes came from where.
And the perennial question; how do you think this will age?
It’s so light and nimble on it’s feet at this point I just can’t predict, but would like to think more than just a few years.
So I have been trying to figure out how in the world people are getting all these weird images, and I finally realized that you get them from your orders. Is that right? Are you supposed to post it to show that you bought some?
@Twich22 Here’s the official list of slash commands: Mehdown Slash Commands. And here is the formatting syntax and embedding features: Mehdown 2.0. The Kickstarter embedding feature happened not long before the Casemates Kickstarter campaign. I’m guessing it wasn’t a coincidence.
@knlprez I’m still in for a split, but haven’t heard from @midstarrynight. Should one of us order and figure it out later? Would prefer minimal bottles due to space issues, but can deal with whatever…lots of positive comments on here…enablers!
@rjquillin I really am trying to not buy. New year, new budget. Especially since I can’t count on a tax refund any more to pay for our nanny.
If somebody wants to pass along a couple bottles I can do that much.
@MSUMike@jeffyedwards Since I’m new to this let’s go with the case that @MSUMike is buying and then @jeffedwards you can still have one of each from my batch leaving me with 5 of each. I’m in with both of you. No biggie on you being out three weeks @jeffedwards. I’m sure we can get it done before you leave and if not I’ll wait till you come back. That is the purpose of the community/casemates, no?! So, yes @MSUMike, let’s do it!
I probably shouldn’t have. I already have a ton of Navarro Deep End Blend Pinot that I need to drink before it’s too late, but judging from the responses here, it seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. So I made my first Casemates Purchase:
People on here seem pretty happy with this 3rd offering from Casemates…but can we mix it up a bit with white wines instead of three straight offerings of red? Meh created this near-perfect community of snarky online shopping and Yum Juice…but like all binge drinking winos, I like to mix it up a bit and make look like I’m a ”wine lover” and not simply a lush.
@bramby2 If you have access to Little and KR you sell them whenever possible, whatever they’re willing to give you at whatever price they’re willing to discount. KR in particular is a RACE TO BUY on the old ww site.
Kent Rasmussen goes back to the early days of WW. I recall him as Professor Rasmussen. I just reviewed one of my KR buys and remembered that his comments on Petit Verdot sold me on a buy that was a bit pricey for me at the time. That purchase was a good value, but not anywhere as good as this. I put that bottle of PV away and we drank the other varietals in the set. I resisted the PV. I resisted. A few years later I was obligated to contribute to a silent auction. With great sadness, I put out the Petit Verdot. I fronted it with a card quoting lots of the conversation about it from WW. Including one from a person who was very eloquent in their hatred! I paid about $20 for the bottle. It sold for over $200. The purchaser loved it. But didn’t share.
@fonesj1983 In philly, but center city without a car. I’d be willing to go for 6 if no one else localish is interested. Think you could get into Center City?
(I work right by City Hall and live on Washington Sq, so multiple convenientish meetup options)
@mrn1 I checked the NE OH thread and didn’t see any interest there so pushed the button already for a 4-pack. I thought that was the point of subscribing to the thread, haha. I really thought that Casemates would have had something in place to facilitate this instead of leaving us to our own devices to figure out how to split and where to arrange it.
@chipgreen Until there is a defined way to chat with others about splits, I’ll think we’ll have to develop our own format. We can keep it under the offering thread, or move it to Gatherings. Either way works for me.
@jshaver On the fence, but may be in. Can you wait until Sunday to buy? Not a big PN drinker, so waiting for a review B4 I jump in. If you get others to go in, don’t wait for me. Where are you located?
@jmdavidson1 I don’t like PN at all, never have, I bought it anyway cause it’s KR and you ALWAYS buy KR. You can save the PN for Turkey Day and impress the shit out of your family or gift it to someone you really like.
@jmdavidson1 Hi. Kent here…as to reviews…sorry, I am about as unbiased as Trump. As to ageing…the EPN is a lovely wine that is good now…although will be better in 3 years and will hold for 5-8 (I think). The ECS - probably about the same story…might be best in 4 years.
First ever purchase of wine online. Been a VMP, backed the kickstarter, and now trying to be a team player. This one seems like a great deal for $10 a bottle for four bottles with my first use of the $10 coupon.
I’m a Mediocre peep looking for two people in DFW to split a case on this Esoterica offering. Whether you’re a Mediocre employee or a normal, let me know if you’re interested. Wine exchange can take place at our HQ in Carrollton.
@jml326 Three way split…I should’ve been more clear in my post. If you were wanting to split, there’s still an opportunity for more people to chime in here and have a case pickup at our HQ…or some other method you determine.
@MSUMike yes, I was surprised how quickly that went. With more DFW humans chiming in, maybe another couple or trio can come together on this string. We’re making our HQ available for place of exchange as an option.
Ok, I’m in for a case. I sat here trying to figure out if I should buy a case of the Cab or the Pinot then I get to the order screen and it’s a mixed case - even better! Thanks casemates, can’t wait to try them both!
Kent’s petite is one of my all time favorite random wine woot purchases many years ago; it’s actually what got me involved in wine woot. Anyone from the Houston area interested in splitting a case? 3 CS & 3PN per person???
@IanMorr Shucks! Well, I’m in Lake Jackson on during the week and the med center/NRG area on weekends (Friday day to Sun night). I can meet to split at any point on any given weekend and can also drive up during the week if necessary.
@clcaruthers I’ll go halvsies. I think it makes sense for me to buy and we can tag up when you’re in town. I live near Memorial Park. Venmo works well for me but we can settle up when the goodies change hands. If you’re good with this I’ll pull the trigger.
@SDL3 Yes and thank you! Sounds like a deal to me, and Venmo would be perfect. I could swing by on the weekend based on your scheduled whenever it comes. I don’t think they have PM/DMs to exchange info like WW, so how do we get in touch?
@SDL3 I was reading below and saw cases were sold out. An admin just added a few more to the inventory. I waited a little bit to see if you would reply, but I went ahead and got a case before it sold out again. If we both ended up with cases and you only wanted half, I’ll still take that half off your hands
@clcaruthers Got it. I just got back from lunch and have not placed an order, so thanks for jumping on it. Email me: SDL3casemates@gmail.com and we can sort out details. Thanks!
Mod edit by @shawn: Generally we’d moderate away email addresses shared in the forum like this. Given that it appears @SDL3 created a throwaway email account for this purpose rather than using their personal email account we’re going to leave it. Direct messaging tools are coming just as quickly as we can roll them out to make this better.
Hi all. This is Kent Rasmussen. I just want to say that it is great to be back. When David told me about Casemates I was thrilled with the idea and that he would call me and tell me about it at the very very beginning. I really enjoyed the time with you-all during the (many) offerings we did so long ago on WW and really want to support David’s new venture.
As many of you know, Celia and I have changed what we do over the years and no longer make all those wonderful “odd” lots. So many of them were so good (love to hear that many of you still have them in your cellars), but terribly so hard to distribute and sell. It broke my heart to stop making them…but the banker speaks! Now-a-days I am concentrating on our Ramsay brand and a new brand called 689 that we pretty much only sell out-of-the-USA. So when David called I had to think on what to offer. For many years I have made two special small lots of wine just for sale to our oldest retail customers just in Northern California under the Esoterica name…a Pinot and a Cab. When David asked for “something really special” for the start of Casemates I thought…“what better?” These are really wonderful wines and the price is absolutely absurdly cheap.
Anyway…it is great to be back! I will keep an eye on this commentary for the next couple of days if any of you have questions. Also…if you have older WW wines that I have made and want to hear news of them…let me know, I occasionally get to taste our older wines and love to talk on them.
All the best, Kent
@KRWINE Hey, Kent! I have to say that almost everything I bought from you other than the Sauvignon Blanc and the Grenache Rose (another amazing winner!) are still waiting patiently in the cellar for the kind of full maturity you know I appreciate. The vertical tasting of your Pinot Noirs (starting with the 1979!) on our 2010 rpm Tour was one of the all time highlights of all of the Tours - one of those events that wooters (and now casemateers) who were there can forever say “I was there at St. Celia’s place and tasted with Kent”! And those abed in England that morning will forever count their man(or woman)hood cheap…
@KRWINE The last couple of months we’ve been working our way through the 04 Esoterica Port Medley you sold in 2008. The individual varietals have all been great. What a fun experiment it has been noting the differences. Still have the blend itself left to go.
@KRWINE I have to add my voice on the joy in seeing you here. You were one of the absences that just took the joy out of purchasing on WW (although I certainly made up for it last month). I was one of the first to buy, last night, when I saw the offer.
There can never be too much wine (although I’m getting close). :-}
@IanMorr Hi I had to opportunity to taste through one of my last (three) sets of those wines a few weeks ago also. I was stunned how good they are. The best was the blend (naturally), the Touriga and Tinto Ruiz where also fabulous. All the others were really good. It was fun to see them again after all these years. I do think (for anyone who still has a set) that the time in now for drinking them…although now will probably last a few more years.
@rpm Wow…I had forgotten about that Grenache Rose…that was an amazing wine. You should start drinking all those old Esoterica wines…they are all just about prime right now. As to the KRW PN…the 2007 and 8 are really nice at the moment. I can’t remember what other vintages WW had.
And if you ever want to break out the blue bottles again, that grenache rose was great too- I still remember the slightly confused looks we all had when we stepped off the @RPM tour bus to see orange wine waiting for us. But I mean, it was only 9:30am, that’s much too early for red wine… Duh.
@KRWINE Agreed with @rpm and @mother for that 2010 Tour visit. Out of this world.
I’ve got a few bottles of the 06 and 07 KRW Pinots, some PS, and a couple bottles of the Viognier Late Harvest. Are you still making the KRW Pinots?
Howdy-hi. So, yeah, your PS was the first PS I ever had, and holy cow was that an awakening for me!!!
I’m stoked to have purchased a case of this offering, but since you offered I wanted to ask about some older wines that I don’t think others have asked about yet. (That I’ve seen.)
Along with some Esoterica ('07, '08, '09) PSs, I have a single bottle of the 2001 and the 2002 vintage of your Kent Rasmussen Winery PS Leeds-Chavez Vineyard. I’m holding it because I really wanted to see what an older PS could be like. I should have saved more of them, but they were all so darn good that I couldn’t stop drinking them! Really regret not stock-piling more of them so I could drink them along the way. If you or anyone has an idea on whether they are still ok to leave lying in the cellar, or if I need to pop them soon, I’d really appreciate it.
One final note for you and @WineDavid49 – Sounds to me like bottling a Meh (or CaseMates) PS wine might be a good option. It would allow all of us the glory of drinking it, and reduce your issues of having to deal with selling it…As @mother said, pretty sure this crew will buy and drink pretty much anything you can get to us!
@wnance Hi I had the 2007 a few weeks ago and it was yummy and still holding very well. I have not had the 2008 in many a year and don’t think that I have any in the cellar either. Too bad — I would have opened one for dinner as I recall I really enjoyed that wine. Kent
Just read the thread and like the format. Liked seeing a LabRat report again.
Kent and I went to the same high school, a few years apart. I have always greatly enjoyed any wine he has produced and happy to be able to purchase some on Casemates. My first purchase.
I think it is fitting my last wine.woot order arrives today, and I buy my first CaseMates offer! I loved Kent’s Esoterica that I bought over on the other site (which is sadly long gone), so I’m excited to get more.
Going in for one as I love the Petite Syrah so much. I’m also hoping for a run of it soon! I thought they were getting rid of the Esoterica PS line for some reason! Still have a couple bottles I’m cherishing. I did bust one out and everyone looooooooved it. It was their fav that I’ve shown most folks.
Here’s to hoping the cab and the pinot deliver as well.
Hey, I know that username giving my post some ups. I must thank @Shrdlu for recommending the Kent Rassmusen Esoterica PS to me. I would have never tasted this fantastic wine without that strong recommendation.
@csquared22@ajrunr@funnywontons I adjusted the inventory to make some more cases available. You should be able to buy now. (And you can cancel your 4-bottle order if it’s been less than an hour at https://casemates.com/orders or write to support to ask them to cancel if it’s been longer than that).
I tried to buy a case earlier using the /buy command, but it didn’t work. So I ordered manually, and needed to enter my DOB. Maybe that’s why the auto one didn’t work earlier? In any case (so to speak)
What’s this? Esoterica, and it can be delivered to South Dakota? I’m in - now my nine bottles of Esoterica PS will have family members nearby. A split might be workable, if anyone here (unlikely) or in the Twin Cities is interested.
@bhodilee Like I said on that other site, my SIWBM’s are measured in days, not weeks or months. Just when I thought I might get the inventory levels under control, WD ships to SD and all plans are out the window.
My first casemates order. You guys always make it easy to figure out when to go for it. Its how it was on the site that shall not be named and I am glad to know I find the knowledge here too.
I need all the help I can get to find wines that are good. I have come a long way though, but this seems like a no-brainer.
Like others, today I picked up my final and so fine Woot box of Wellington Victory and ordered a case of Rasmussen. Some days are just that good. Popped an '06 Wellington from the cellar to quietly celebrate the old and ring in the new! Woot is dead; long live Casemates!
Since Pinot isn’t my favorite (though I do like them on occasion), I’m glad I held off on Wednesday’s deal and got this instead. Not a case - I just don’t have the room - but definitely in for 4. (unless @rjquillin would want to part with 1-2 bottles from his case, though I’m pretty sure he’ll refuse )
@tklivory Got your KR at work. Looks like we’ll be doing a Tercero distribution tomorrow at 08:00 at a coffee shop in UTC. PM me @ww (or email me) if you want to drop by and p/u the KR at the same time.
Very excited to see a familiar winemaker bottle appear magically at my door. We had some wonderful tasting experiences with Kent and Celia and he pulled out some crazy old bottles for us to try - then Celia serenaded us. When we arrived, he had this wonderful orange dessert/breakfast wine for us to try.
Moving on to the tasting.
Color: translucent Red - typical pinot.
Nose: Strawberry and Lavender(?) Not a strong nose, but nothing off. No apparent alcohol/menthol.
Taste: Strawberry, Red Raspberry, Plum. Very light and fresh. No appreciable oak. Not tannic or acidic. Pronounced taste of the grape itself, without the usual pinot mushroom or wet soil.
Finish: short to medium. Just enough acid to cleanse the palate but nothing more. No noticeable oak.
Easy drinking, immediately accessible. Borders on fruitiness without being cloying.
Many thanks for the honor of ratting a Rasmussen. Brings back many happy memories.
@rjquillin Indeed. Haven’t gotten the scheduling of the offers down - sorry for the late rattage. I have been trying it over several days - just sipping it again this morning and it is just as fresh as when I first opened it.
Kickstarter Meh.com member, formerly more active. I backed at the $100 level plus 60 to reinstate the VMP I held for a long while. However, now that I’m going to purchase, I don’t see my VMP status reflected and I see I never got a coupon code email, etc. I did get a survey email asking me to confirm I had gone in on VMP, etc, and an email confirming receipt of that. I just sent off a support thingie about it, but got a “we work M-F” autoresponse.
Any idea what’s up? Should I just buy and request a refund for that part? I don’t want to miss a KR – we have some Esoterica desserts we’re still saving, we prize them so.
@TrinSF my vmp was not applied as I put some unexpected text in a field and it apparently got bypassed on an autoload. I bought the forst offering, paid the shipping, then they applied the vmp and gave me a credit for shipping cost
2016 Kent Rasmussen North Coast Coast Cabernet Sauvignon Esoterica
Revisiting, missed chapter two at 24 hours and now going on day 48 hours now since initial PnP…
Pulled the cork on this at 09:00 this morning, along with the '12 and '13 Victories.
So, this is 10 hours later on ~2/3 full bottle @ 19.6C, so a bit cooler.
Despite the first pour I had to dump due to a dirty (soapy) glass, I really like where this went;
speaks well for a bit of cellar time I’d like to give it, and will.
Still a shy nose, or perhaps my nose is just in a dump phase.
I’ll still call it soft for a CS, it tends to restrained elegance.
Diminished is the sweetness I attributed to fruit, and not RS, on PnP.
Now getting plum, a touch of cassis and spice box, and dust.
Cooperage seems quite neutral, no splinters, minimal vanilla, tannins present are only slightly drying, just enough to let you know they are there. I’m really liking the balance here. Finish approaches 30 seconds.
This is ~not~ an in-your-face CA CS.
If you expect and like those Parker bombs, go elsewhere.
Not a CS for hearty fare either, enjoy this solo or with lighter sides and meals.
I’ll still call this a PN drinkers CS; I really like the subtleties here and it just keeps calling for another sip.
Back tomorrow, as I’ve managed to retain nearly ½ bottle for day three.
This will again just get corked, no Ar, no fridge.
@rjquillin Well, I may have to take you up on a bottle or two of each. Sigh. But no big deal either way. I’ve been given a mandate that wine shall no longer invade the living room. This is a hard condition to meet atm.
Great to have Kent back, love all the Esotericas I’ve had. In for a case.
One comment for the powers-that-be… it was helpful to have the one link near the top of the comments for the first lab rat report. Could someone please put links for all of them some place obvious like that, so we won’t miss them, or have to scroll through a long list of comments searching! Thanks.
And… glad we are back to ‘Lab Rats’. Grape Debater… meh!
@coynedj Mine still says processing too - I have an entry in my Fedex account for the shipment, just says Label Created with an anticipated ship date of 1/23, estimated delivery date of 1/27 (today), but with no tracking information. Doesn’t look like it actually started shipping yet.
Tonight I had a bottle of 2016 Esoterica PN with Halibut and pasta. PnP nose is cherries, vanilla, and what I think is Brett. Taste is cherries and vanilla with a Bretty finish. A hint of acid. No alcohol. No Tannins. I am not really enjoying this. I hope its a bad bottle. I’ll try a glass tomorrow but am not really expecting it to be able to improve from here.
@Twich22 Not that you’d necessarily have a bad cork with a situation where you experience excessive Brett, but, did you see anything wrong with the cork itself? Was the odor more barnyard than old dish rag?
@Twich22 I would be more inclined to say it was “corked” if it was dish rag vs barnyard alone…you’ll have to let us know how the next one you open tastes/smells…
And yeah, composites can definitely be corkeD. Screwtop is the only one that will prevent that exact condition, but is a trade-off due to the negative impacts of aging if the wine is intended to be aged. That said, good composites are less likely to cork than a natural I THINK, so it’s unfortunate that it happened here…
@Twich22 I too pulled a cork on a PN; lovely.
No dog, no Brett. At ww, @winedavid49 and the CS crew made good on bad bottles. I’d think the same here, but not sure exactly what the process will be. @thumperchick or @dave may have some insights on how to proceed.
Opened the Pinot tonight. When I first opened it I thought it smelled…bad. But I let it sit for a couple hours and then the bad smell was gone. Picking up on that lovely vanilla aroma instead and drinks very nicely. Is this normal? Maybe because its a young wine it just needed to breathe?
Received my box today around noon and the package was quite cold. After leaving a bottle of PN on the counter for the balance of the day corked the bottle this evening. Very light on the nose, slightly sweet with a hint of vanilla. Beautifully smooth going down, with a nice crisp finish. Definitely improved after a couple of hours.
@fredpgh In a comment buried in copious discussion above, Kent said, “As to ageing…the EPN is a lovely wine that is good now…although will be better in 3 years and will hold for 5-8 (I think). The ECS - probably about the same story…might be best in 4 years.”
@Xena67 The eagle has landed. All I need is your contact info so we can arrange to meet. Can you PM meet thru Woot? I think Casemates CS should have emailed you my email address if you aren’t sure about Woot PM.
My wife and I are big fans of Kent’s wines. We opened the CS the other night and while we thought it was pretty good from the start, after about an hour it really opened up and we were very pleased! IMO drinks like a wine three times that price.
@rjquillin Thanks for dredging up this thread! Did you see this comment above?
@fredpgh In a comment buried in copious discussion above, Kent said, “As to ageing…the EPN is a lovely wine that is good now…although will be better in 3 years and will hold for 5-8 (I think). The ECS - probably about the same story…might be best in 4 years.” PatrickKarcher said Tue, Feb 6th 2018 at 9:24am eastern