2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
91 Points, James Suckling
Tasting Notes
Our Mother Clone is a classic ‘Dry Creek’ Zinfandel with spicy aromas of cinnamon and white pepper along with red berries and a touch of vanilla. Black cherry flavors blend with vanilla, licorice, and warm baking spices. The berry-spice combination, so typical of Dry Creek Zin, includes a touch of pepper on the rounded finish which is a hallmark of our style. Enjoy now or cellar for three to five years.
The Mother Clone Vineyard
The Pedroncelli house is founded on Zinfandel. It was the first grape planted in the early 1900s, it was the first wine founder Giovanni made after Prohibition ended and it was also the first varietal we labeled under our name in 1947. Using the budwood from the mother vineyard to clone a second generation carries our vineyard story forward, echoing the generations of our family. The fruit from three generations of these “mother” vines are part of the blend as well as fruit from the Bushnell and Giovannoni vineyards.
Harvest & Winemaking Notes
The vintage of 2022 was influenced by low amounts of rain and was followed by a warm growing season which sped up maturity as well as concentrated flavors and color. Harvest was early to get ahead of the heat wave the first week of September. The different blocks were hand-picked the first part of September. This preserved the varietal flavors, aromatics, and natural acidity.
At the crush pad, destemmed grapes are transferred to a fermentation tank to cold soak for 48 hours and are then inoculated with selected yeast. Daily pump-overs and fermentation in temperature-controlled stainless steel tanks with delestage regimes are done for maximum phenolic extraction. Pressing follows and the new wine is transferred to storage tanks until barreled down. Twelve months of aging in American oak barrels develop additional complexity. The addition of Petite Sirah (9%) adds depth and structure to the wine.
Specs
Composition: 91% Zinfandel, 9% Petite Sirah
Appellation: Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
Aging: 12 months in American Oak barrels, 30% new oak
Alcohol: 15.5%
Ph: 3.90
Total Acidity: .600g / 100 ml
2022 Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
Tasting Notes
Aromas of cassis, spicy oak, and mocha introduce this medium-bodied Cabernet Sauvignon. Flavors are framed by black cherry and plum, toasty soft tannins with a hint of dried cooking herbs. Great structure combined with a rounded and toasted oak finish with lingering blackberry notes. Drink upon release or cellar for up to five more years.
Brother’s Mark
John and Jim Pedroncelli first planted Cabernet Sauvignon in 1965 making their mark in Dry Creek Valley. This was at the beginning of their six-decade business partnership which included many other milestones along the way. This wine blends brethren Bordeaux varieties and builds layers of striking flavors and character. The brothers have left an indelible mark on our family, our valley, and the wine community.
Grape & Winemaking Notes
Estate fruit was harvested from the northern end of Dry Creek Valley and picked just a mile from the winery. Each of the Bordeaux varieties developed exceptional character on the vineyard sites located along the valley bench. The vines receive the right amount of sun and cooling fog which develops optimal flavors in the grapes.
The beginning of the growing season was framed by low amounts of rain and the continued season brought good conditions through to harvest. High temperatures at the onset of harvest concentrated flavors because of lowered yields. The grapes for this blend were harvested in mid-September, preserving varietal flavors, aromatics, and natural acidity. Once at the crush pad, the grapes are de-stemmed and cold-soaked for 48 hours. Inoculated with the Bordeaux yeast strain, fermentation followed in stainless steel tanks. During this time, to get the best color and flavor, the juice is circulated over the cap daily and gently macerated to extract the color and flavors from the skins. Once dry the new wine is pressed and stored until barreled in the winter. The separate lots were aged in French oak barrels for fourteen months to develop smoothness and complexity.
For nearly a century, the Pedroncelli family has been crafting exceptional wines in Sonoma County’s Dry Creek Valley. It all began in 1927 when John Pedroncelli, Sr. purchased a vineyard and a small winery west of Geyserville; two elements have remained unchanged since then - the exceptional place the Pedroncelli family farms their vineyards and their dedication to creating fine wines.
For nine decades, the Pedroncelli family has been producing wines of the highest quality, tradition and heritage. Their commitment to excellence and their family-run business make them a trusted source of great wines - enjoy them with confidence.
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Lab Rat Report for 2022 vintage Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon
It was exciting to open the rat bottle and see a new-style Pedroncelli label. I have purchased Pedroncelli wines on this site before (mixed cases) and enjoyed everything, so my hopes were high out of the gate.
The bottle uses a natural cork that is deeply set in the neck of the bottle. Initial nose is sweet green peppers and and the classic tannic scent of a cab sauv that can’t be mistaken for anything else. Once it has had some time to decant (around 10 minutes in the glass) the green pepper scent dissipates and the rest of it shifts to a nice oak-ey quality. The scent in general is fairly muted and difficult to get a definitive reading on.
The wine tastes young (I normally would wait a bit longer to open a bottle like this) but is still enjoyable, much more so after the decanting. There’s a pepper (not green pepper this time but rather peppercorn) flavor that stands out, and the tannins are not too tight despite how young the wine is. There is a nice complexity and just a hint of astringency that I suspect will get even fainter once the tannins age a bit. To my palate it just barely edges out of dry into sweet, but if pressed I would say is in the middle, right where this type of wine should be.
As you can see the color holds surprisingly dark and firm even out to the edges.
It has decent legs, although I’m not sure how well I was able to capture them:
I suspect in a couple more years this will go from good to great; this is one to hold onto. (I’m a bit surprised to see the tasting notes in the official blurb for this listing say “or cellar for up to five more years”; it seems like this could go longer)
At this price it’s a no-brainer.
This is one that will pair well with hearty meats.
An old friend came to visit this weekend. Long lost but not forgotten, The Mother Clone. I looked back on my tasting notes from the 2009, 2010, and 2011 vintages and my Zinfandel guided pathway since then. Whenever the Pedroncelli mixed cases showed up on Wine Woot I jumped on them for their homegrown history, outstanding variety, and qpr. I am not sure what happened after the somewhat disappointing 2011 vintage but my Zinfandel journey has evolved. I receive regular allocations from Turley, Wilson, and Scott Harvey. So when The Mother Clone came to visit I had a sense of Déjà vu. Was she as good as I remembered?
On initial pour the color is ruby red with nice legs. Red fruits and some flowers on the nose. The taste is of the same red fruits, medium bodied, and with balanced tannin and acidity. The 2022 vintage has been described as early maturing and not tannic and I agree. The wine is ready to drink now, can be enjoyed straight out of the bottle, and does not require food pairing to balance any acidity. Neither is it a fruit bomb or overly peppery. It is well balanced and easy to drink, especially since it came in at 15.5% which I did not realize at the time we were tasting. I paired it with a grilled picanha which is similar to tri-tip for you Californians, sauteed spinach, and mashed potatoes. The wine was a big hit for our 2 dinner guests and the bottle did not make it to the dessert course. As an experiment I did an unblinded side by side tasting with the 2016 Turley Ueberroth Zinfandel with the last pour. I probably should have picked a Sonoma Dry Creek Valley example for fair comparison but both wines remarkably shared similar varietal characteristics. But the Turley was more intense and the flavors were more concentrated. So yes I was very happy to see The Mother Clone return to my home and she still offers outstanding value and qpr. I agree with the previous rattage, autobuy.
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Pedroncelli Zinfandel & Cabernet Sauvignon - $24 = 13.79%
We were excited to receive the email from Alice that Lab Rat wine was coming our way. When the box arrived, we were surprised to see a familiar winery name on the label - Pedroncelli.
We also saw a known appellation - Dry Creek Valley, which we visited in 2017 right after the wildfires and again in 2022.
We had never tried one of Pedroncelli’s reds until now! This 2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel arrived with perfect timing.
We had already planned a sushi making dinner with some wine loving friends. So, we brought this bottle to taste and share.
Obligatory bottle and casemates glass image:
Rear bottle/label image:
I know you might be thinking “Zinfandel and Sushi? That’s not a good pairing”.
While we would typically agree and normally open a Zin when we have smoked meats/barbecue or something spicy, we loved using this sushi making party as an opportunity to pull the cork and taste this 2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel while making our sushi and as we dug in.
So, each of us grabbed a glass, sipped, sniffed, and swirled. The consensus among all four was:
Nose of pepper and black fruits
Initial taste/pallet of red and black fruits (cherries)
Finish was also peppery and slightly acidic
One of our friends, who admitted she wasn’t the biggest Zinfandel fan said that this Zinfandel didn’t cause the normal mouth puckering that others have for her. In her words, “This wasn’t an over the top, crazy Zin. I really enjoyed it!”
At this price point, we will definitely be ordering some and drinking it again!
This would be a phenomenal pairing at an upcoming Thanksgiving dinner with roast turkey, or other traditional Zin pairings such as barbecued meats, lamb, spicy curry, chili, etc. We can’t wait to try it with one of those.
We’d love to hear your thoughts as well. Let us know what you think in the comments below.
Suckling on the zin:
91 points. A good choice for fans of high-powered, densely textured reds. Pushes the limits of ripeness and heavy body while balancing them with well-saturated, mouth-filling tannins that bring a sense of balance and fullness. Notes of cinnamon, vanilla bean and cloves from oak aging add nice complexity. Drink now or hold. - JS Sep 2024
Reverse Wine Snob a few weeks ago:
The Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel is 91% Zinfandel and 9% Petite Sirah from Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County, California. The grapes come from a ranch planted to Zinfandel since 1904 and purchased by John Pedroncelli Sr in 1927. Most of the vineyard was re-planted in the 80s using vines cloned from the originals (hence the name) but the wine also includes fruit from the remaining 115+ year-old “Mother” vines as well. It spends 12 months in American oak, 30% new…opens with a wonderful aroma of blackberry, plum, baking spice, licorice and touches of vanilla that all combine seamlessly. It’s a fantastic start. Taking a sip reveals a lovely, super smooth, super harmonious, medium to full-bodied wine filled with juicy dark berry fruit, more wonderfully integrated spice, vanilla and a little cola. Balanced and delicious, black pepper and spice lead into the dry, grippy, extremely long finish of this fantastic wine. It was similar on day 2 and still going strong on day 3.And while it’s drinking amazingly well now, we know from experience that the wines from Pedroncelli get even better with age so don’t be afraid to stock up. This is one of the better vintages of this wine we’ve tasted and that’s saying something! There is tons of value in this wine.
Cabernet from tastings.com:
92 points. Exceptional. Gold Medal.Garnet black color. Aromas and flavors of blackberry, purple flowers, herbs, and spiced plum with a round, lively, dry medium-to-full body and a tingling, delightful, medium-length finish that shows suggestions of black plum, cherry and baking spices, violets, and candied herbs with chewy, medium tannins and light oak flavor. Ripe in a fun, fruity, and playful manner that makes this a great everyday wine for around the house as well as a serious, robust Cab Sauv that shows complexity and a long finish and will impress your next dinner party guests. 8/8/24
Can’t forget Wilfred Wong:
90 points. The 2022 Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon is a nicely conceived wine. This wine shows aromas and flavors of baking spices, ripe blackberries, and traces of oak. Try it with grilled lamb chops. (Tasted: September 17, 2024, San Francisco, CA)
Not sure why they changed the labeling. I really liked the old labeling much better as well as the fonts that they used, Seems strange but this one feels like a downgrade from the very classic look like the old Wellington stuff. Now it looks like every other mass grocery store label IMO. My girlfriend looked at it and said what the heck did they do to the label? She designs packaging for a large luxury brand. Looks like I’ll have to get a few cases as usual, I hope the new whimsical art look or whatever you call it doesn’t make the wine taste different;)
@finewiner I’ll counter, and say that I enjoy the new labels over the old, as the old label fell in ranks with a sea of other wineries making “classic” wines.
This is a refreshing rebranding.
I let the bottle rest for a day before opening. Upon first pour, you get a dark ruby color and a VERY grassy nose along with mixed berry fruit and a little bit of alcohol. The alcohol follows through at least before the wine has a bit of time to breathe. This wine is a BOMB on first sip (not in the bad way). It’s very punchy, super deep cherry and blackberry, a healthy dose of grassiness, some sharp tannins, and a bit of alcohol burn. Here’s the thing. I love every second of it. It’s a wine I want to swish across my tongue to experience all the peaks and valleys of the wine.
Let’s just say the first glass was a perfect pairing for the Shaq-a-roni pizza (well done) from Papa Johns. It’s like an Italian table wine on steroids!. But then . . . you slow down and let it breathe. Man, this wine smoothes out so well. A rich, ripe dark cherry note with a bit of green vegetation and nice dry tannic alcohol finish. It’s like it begs you to take another sip.
Here’s the thing. If this is under $20/bottle for a case, buy it. I’m going to. I think this will age into a supple, meaty cab that just begs to be had with an elegant dinner. Today, drink it as a big, bold cab that has an incredible cacophony of flavors just ready to Shaq-a-roni! This not a paid advertisement. HAHA!
@wnance If memory serves, Brother’s Mark is the old 3 Vineyards label. That’s per Julie and Colin over at Pedroncelli. I believe I asked that question to them back when Brother’s Mark was ‘new’, and I got replies to both of “It’s the same, just a new labeling”.
That said, we find the Brother’s Mark a bit ‘young’…ok, it’s HARSH upon first opening to us, not the same as the old 3 Vineyards. We have had to aerate and/or decant the wine. We did have one we left out overnight in the decanter and the next afternoon it was wonderful. Very soft compared to the night before. Decanter was capped with a cork ball.
@wnance WreckDiver is correct, we changed the name of the Three Vineyards Cabernet to Brother’s Mark to honor the legacy of Jim and John Pedroncelli who worked together for 65 years building the brand you know today. They were the first winery to plant Cabernet in the Dry Creek Valley. We thought it a fitting legacy to honor them on one of our two flagship wines.
In for 2! QPR For wine is what this is! Pedroncelli for the win!! We JUST got our Wine Club wine from Pedroncelli, and two cases of this is the same price as that single case.
NOTE: These Brother Mark’s are YOUNG. We have noticed that we need to let it sit for a bit before consuming, or we decant it to get some air in it. Per Pedroncelli this is their standard Cab, they just relabeled it (along with a few others).
This is pretty much our house wine, and at $12.50/btl??? Instead of $20 (or $28 if you’re not in their wine club?). BONUS!
So happy that Julie has not stepped all the way back from things Ped. What a great family, and wonderful wines that we get to see on here once in a while. Bought a case yesterday, then came back and bought another case today. I think I will pull a bottle of Cab to see how it tastes young, then set the rest aside for at least 5 years.
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2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
91 Points, James Suckling
Tasting Notes
The Mother Clone Vineyard
Harvest & Winemaking Notes
Specs
2022 Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
Tasting Notes
Brother’s Mark
Grape & Winemaking Notes
Specs
What’s Included
6-bottles:
Case:
Price Comparison
$259.20/Case for 6x 2022 Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County + 6x 2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County at Pedroncelli Winery & Vineyards
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Pedroncelli Zinfandel & Cabernet Sauvignon
6 bottles for $86.99 $14.50/bottle + $1.33/bottle shipping
Case of 12 for $149.99 $12.50/bottle + $1/bottle shipping
2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel
2022 Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon
Lab Rat Report for 2022 vintage Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon
It was exciting to open the rat bottle and see a new-style Pedroncelli label. I have purchased Pedroncelli wines on this site before (mixed cases) and enjoyed everything, so my hopes were high out of the gate.
The bottle uses a natural cork that is deeply set in the neck of the bottle. Initial nose is sweet green peppers and and the classic tannic scent of a cab sauv that can’t be mistaken for anything else. Once it has had some time to decant (around 10 minutes in the glass) the green pepper scent dissipates and the rest of it shifts to a nice oak-ey quality. The scent in general is fairly muted and difficult to get a definitive reading on.
The wine tastes young (I normally would wait a bit longer to open a bottle like this) but is still enjoyable, much more so after the decanting. There’s a pepper (not green pepper this time but rather peppercorn) flavor that stands out, and the tannins are not too tight despite how young the wine is. There is a nice complexity and just a hint of astringency that I suspect will get even fainter once the tannins age a bit. To my palate it just barely edges out of dry into sweet, but if pressed I would say is in the middle, right where this type of wine should be.
As you can see the color holds surprisingly dark and firm even out to the edges.
It has decent legs, although I’m not sure how well I was able to capture them:
I suspect in a couple more years this will go from good to great; this is one to hold onto. (I’m a bit surprised to see the tasting notes in the official blurb for this listing say “or cellar for up to five more years”; it seems like this could go longer)
At this price it’s a no-brainer.
This is one that will pair well with hearty meats.
2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel
An old friend came to visit this weekend. Long lost but not forgotten, The Mother Clone. I looked back on my tasting notes from the 2009, 2010, and 2011 vintages and my Zinfandel guided pathway since then. Whenever the Pedroncelli mixed cases showed up on Wine Woot I jumped on them for their homegrown history, outstanding variety, and qpr. I am not sure what happened after the somewhat disappointing 2011 vintage but my Zinfandel journey has evolved. I receive regular allocations from Turley, Wilson, and Scott Harvey. So when The Mother Clone came to visit I had a sense of Déjà vu. Was she as good as I remembered?
On initial pour the color is ruby red with nice legs. Red fruits and some flowers on the nose. The taste is of the same red fruits, medium bodied, and with balanced tannin and acidity. The 2022 vintage has been described as early maturing and not tannic and I agree. The wine is ready to drink now, can be enjoyed straight out of the bottle, and does not require food pairing to balance any acidity. Neither is it a fruit bomb or overly peppery. It is well balanced and easy to drink, especially since it came in at 15.5% which I did not realize at the time we were tasting. I paired it with a grilled picanha which is similar to tri-tip for you Californians, sauteed spinach, and mashed potatoes. The wine was a big hit for our 2 dinner guests and the bottle did not make it to the dessert course. As an experiment I did an unblinded side by side tasting with the 2016 Turley Ueberroth Zinfandel with the last pour. I probably should have picked a Sonoma Dry Creek Valley example for fair comparison but both wines remarkably shared similar varietal characteristics. But the Turley was more intense and the flavors were more concentrated. So yes I was very happy to see The Mother Clone return to my home and she still offers outstanding value and qpr. I agree with the previous rattage, autobuy.
haven’t been able to make it to DCV since Covid started, so this is a great and inexpensive way to re-visit. /showme late-unwilling-tray
How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
(Note: tax and shipping are not included in savings calculations.)
Pedroncelli Zinfandel & Cabernet Sauvignon - $24 = 13.79%
We were excited to receive the email from Alice that Lab Rat wine was coming our way. When the box arrived, we were surprised to see a familiar winery name on the label - Pedroncelli.
Apparently we’re suckers for their stuff. We’ve previously ordered/tried the Pedroncelli Whites & Rose mixed case and Pedroncelli Chardonnays.
We also saw a known appellation - Dry Creek Valley, which we visited in 2017 right after the wildfires and again in 2022.
We had never tried one of Pedroncelli’s reds until now! This 2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel arrived with perfect timing.
We had already planned a sushi making dinner with some wine loving friends. So, we brought this bottle to taste and share.
Obligatory bottle and casemates glass image:
Rear bottle/label image:
I know you might be thinking “Zinfandel and Sushi? That’s not a good pairing”.
While we would typically agree and normally open a Zin when we have smoked meats/barbecue or something spicy, we loved using this sushi making party as an opportunity to pull the cork and taste this 2022 Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel while making our sushi and as we dug in.
So, each of us grabbed a glass, sipped, sniffed, and swirled. The consensus among all four was:
One of our friends, who admitted she wasn’t the biggest Zinfandel fan said that this Zinfandel didn’t cause the normal mouth puckering that others have for her. In her words, “This wasn’t an over the top, crazy Zin. I really enjoyed it!”
At this price point, we will definitely be ordering some and drinking it again!
This would be a phenomenal pairing at an upcoming Thanksgiving dinner with roast turkey, or other traditional Zin pairings such as barbecued meats, lamb, spicy curry, chili, etc. We can’t wait to try it with one of those.
We’d love to hear your thoughts as well. Let us know what you think in the comments below.
Suckling on the zin:
91 points. A good choice for fans of high-powered, densely textured reds. Pushes the limits of ripeness and heavy body while balancing them with well-saturated, mouth-filling tannins that bring a sense of balance and fullness. Notes of cinnamon, vanilla bean and cloves from oak aging add nice complexity. Drink now or hold. - JS Sep 2024
Reverse Wine Snob a few weeks ago:
The Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel is 91% Zinfandel and 9% Petite Sirah from Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County, California. The grapes come from a ranch planted to Zinfandel since 1904 and purchased by John Pedroncelli Sr in 1927. Most of the vineyard was re-planted in the 80s using vines cloned from the originals (hence the name) but the wine also includes fruit from the remaining 115+ year-old “Mother” vines as well. It spends 12 months in American oak, 30% new…opens with a wonderful aroma of blackberry, plum, baking spice, licorice and touches of vanilla that all combine seamlessly. It’s a fantastic start. Taking a sip reveals a lovely, super smooth, super harmonious, medium to full-bodied wine filled with juicy dark berry fruit, more wonderfully integrated spice, vanilla and a little cola. Balanced and delicious, black pepper and spice lead into the dry, grippy, extremely long finish of this fantastic wine. It was similar on day 2 and still going strong on day 3.And while it’s drinking amazingly well now, we know from experience that the wines from Pedroncelli get even better with age so don’t be afraid to stock up. This is one of the better vintages of this wine we’ve tasted and that’s saying something! There is tons of value in this wine.
Cabernet from tastings.com:
92 points. Exceptional. Gold Medal.Garnet black color. Aromas and flavors of blackberry, purple flowers, herbs, and spiced plum with a round, lively, dry medium-to-full body and a tingling, delightful, medium-length finish that shows suggestions of black plum, cherry and baking spices, violets, and candied herbs with chewy, medium tannins and light oak flavor. Ripe in a fun, fruity, and playful manner that makes this a great everyday wine for around the house as well as a serious, robust Cab Sauv that shows complexity and a long finish and will impress your next dinner party guests. 8/8/24
Can’t forget Wilfred Wong:
90 points. The 2022 Pedroncelli Brother’s Mark Cabernet Sauvignon is a nicely conceived wine. This wine shows aromas and flavors of baking spices, ripe blackberries, and traces of oak. Try it with grilled lamb chops. (Tasted: September 17, 2024, San Francisco, CA)
fwiw
@kaolis WW must have been having an off day, or there was no reward for a +
Not sure why they changed the labeling. I really liked the old labeling much better as well as the fonts that they used, Seems strange but this one feels like a downgrade from the very classic look like the old Wellington stuff. Now it looks like every other mass grocery store label IMO. My girlfriend looked at it and said what the heck did they do to the label? She designs packaging for a large luxury brand. Looks like I’ll have to get a few cases as usual, I hope the new whimsical art look or whatever you call it doesn’t make the wine taste different;)
@finewiner I’ll counter, and say that I enjoy the new labels over the old, as the old label fell in ranks with a sea of other wineries making “classic” wines.
This is a refreshing rebranding.
@finewiner And recognized as best rebranding of the year by Wine Industry Network https://wineindustryadvisor.com/2024/04/25/wine-industry-network-announces-winners-of-1st-annual-marketing-awards/
@finewiner sorry this is the better link https://winesalessymposium.com/wine-marketing-awards-winners/pedroncelli-winery.php
@Drez143 @finewiner As with all things aesthetic, ymmv. I agree that the old labels were better. And the two generations ago labels were even better!
/giphy toasty-domineering-venus
Pretty much autobuy daily drinker.
Damn you Casemates!!
/giphy pungent-radical-bridge
I’ve long loved Pedroncelli wines. In for a case!
RWS just had Mother Clone 4 packs for ~$16/btl, so unless the Brother’s Mark is trash, this is a great deal.
Does anybody in SF want to split a case 2 or 3 ways?
@grohotanie Split, I can’t even order more than 2:)
I let the bottle rest for a day before opening. Upon first pour, you get a dark ruby color and a VERY grassy nose along with mixed berry fruit and a little bit of alcohol. The alcohol follows through at least before the wine has a bit of time to breathe. This wine is a BOMB on first sip (not in the bad way). It’s very punchy, super deep cherry and blackberry, a healthy dose of grassiness, some sharp tannins, and a bit of alcohol burn. Here’s the thing. I love every second of it. It’s a wine I want to swish across my tongue to experience all the peaks and valleys of the wine.
Let’s just say the first glass was a perfect pairing for the Shaq-a-roni pizza (well done) from Papa Johns. It’s like an Italian table wine on steroids!. But then . . . you slow down and let it breathe. Man, this wine smoothes out so well. A rich, ripe dark cherry note with a bit of green vegetation and nice dry tannic alcohol finish. It’s like it begs you to take another sip.
Here’s the thing. If this is under $20/bottle for a case, buy it. I’m going to. I think this will age into a supple, meaty cab that just begs to be had with an elegant dinner. Today, drink it as a big, bold cab that has an incredible cacophony of flavors just ready to Shaq-a-roni! This not a paid advertisement. HAHA!
@neilornot
It’d be nice know ~which~ bottle you are ratting.
Perhaps the Brother CS?
@neilornot Since you mention “cab” twice, I assume you are ratting the Brother’s Mark.
Sorry, yes, it was the Brother’s Mark Cab Sav.
Sounds like good stuff. I’ll dip my toes.
/giphy undersized-penultimate-verse
Is it possible to send a case to someone as a present?
@jimmoffitt I messaged you. Hope that helps.
@jimmoffitt @ttboy23
Did you send him your mailing address?
@chipgreen @jimmoffitt @ttboy23 I should!!
/giphy fluctuating-motley-crack
How’s this for “random” order number — contemptible-swift-wine
This is old school Woot pricing!!! In for 2 cases. Any details how this cab fits into the Pedroncelli Wisdom/007/3 Vineyards/ cab lineup?
@wnance If memory serves, Brother’s Mark is the old 3 Vineyards label. That’s per Julie and Colin over at Pedroncelli. I believe I asked that question to them back when Brother’s Mark was ‘new’, and I got replies to both of “It’s the same, just a new labeling”.
That said, we find the Brother’s Mark a bit ‘young’…ok, it’s HARSH upon first opening to us, not the same as the old 3 Vineyards. We have had to aerate and/or decant the wine. We did have one we left out overnight in the decanter and the next afternoon it was wonderful. Very soft compared to the night before. Decanter was capped with a cork ball.
@wnance WreckDiver is correct, we changed the name of the Three Vineyards Cabernet to Brother’s Mark to honor the legacy of Jim and John Pedroncelli who worked together for 65 years building the brand you know today. They were the first winery to plant Cabernet in the Dry Creek Valley. We thought it a fitting legacy to honor them on one of our two flagship wines.
In for 2! QPR For wine is what this is! Pedroncelli for the win!! We JUST got our Wine Club wine from Pedroncelli, and two cases of this is the same price as that single case.
NOTE: These Brother Mark’s are YOUNG. We have noticed that we need to let it sit for a bit before consuming, or we decant it to get some air in it. Per Pedroncelli this is their standard Cab, they just relabeled it (along with a few others).
This is pretty much our house wine, and at $12.50/btl??? Instead of $20 (or $28 if you’re not in their wine club?). BONUS!
So happy that Julie has not stepped all the way back from things Ped. What a great family, and wonderful wines that we get to see on here once in a while. Bought a case yesterday, then came back and bought another case today. I think I will pull a bottle of Cab to see how it tastes young, then set the rest aside for at least 5 years.
@woopdedoo Julie is President and Board Chair… if anything she is much deeper now that Dad is retired!
@DaveTreb Excellent!
/giphy pointless-lethal-tiramisu
@ttboy23 last one?!
I need to stop missing these great offerings!
@connorbush
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How much more are you saving by buying a full case?
that Mark_L and chipgreen curate; works well, excepting one-day Fridays