@ScottW58 And Ed would certainly make for a few days of interesting winery chat to introduce those not familiar to ww what winery participation is all about.
Wonder if a rat bottle is in the wild.
Heck, this could even be a CM custom launch bottle.
That would be more than exciting.
@Lighter Yep. JanKris, Cycles and Kunde early on were all at the wrong end of the scale in my opinion. That said, it’s possible the’ve made improvements, or got new ownership/new winemaker/new vines??? Something needed to change, no doubt.
@vaaccess I think that in those early days - one offering a week - wineries didn’t know what to make of woot wine. And didn’t put their “good” stuff on the line. I’d guess that winedavid had to do some serious arm twisting to come up with those early offerings.
@Lighter Agreed. Long story short…I’m doing a SMALL bit of vines on our land, struggling, but anyway…pondered what it would be like to have to sell wine that I made that I didn’t like. Terrifying prospect!
@North316 Took me a while, but finally figured out what you’re talking about. That could work well. Then there’s also Celia Ramsay, i.e. Kent Rasmussen’s wife. A KR offering to start this place off could be rather interesting.
It’s probably BR Cohn, since they’re in Sonoma and big enough to deal with a couple hundred wayward cases, but I’m hoping for “Little Jonathan Winery” or maybe “Vince Neil Vineyards”.
“Claypool Cellars” has to be riddled with Brett, and terrific.
I feel like WD used to do this often in the early days… (of that previous site)… spending Sunday trying to figure out what the next wine would be. Oh, the nostalgia!
If WineDavid’s clue is Colonel Mustard in the library with a revolver, that may be a reference to Steven Millhauser short stories in the Barnum Museum. He describes a bottle of wine a quarter filled and it’s label is a grape arbor with three purple birds overhead and also describes a wine glass with the legend “Brotherhood: America’s oldest winery.” We can go two ways here, the first is the Brotherhood winery in the Hudson valley of New York, or Scott Harvey, the oldest deeded vineyard in the state of California. No more obtuse then “Invisible” as a clue leading to Jimmy Stewart, WDs favorite actor starring in the movie Harvey, which was a clue for Scott Harvey. So I really hope that Colonel mustard in the library was in fact Wine David’s clue. Will find out tomorrow whether it’s winner winner chicken dinner or try again next time.
@msten Ah, but Colonel Mustard was not written by WD. That was just the first reaction to “Clue” in the thread title. What if instead the first comment had been the professor in the study with the candlestick?
@rjquillin@msten I don’t think he’s hiding. I think he’s given two clues:
a Clue you ask?
all right. i’ll compose something soon.
Take these two together and I suspect we’ve got something related to the game/movie Clue that also has something to do with music. But this is the kind of puzzling I’m terrible at, especially with my pop culture knowledge being minimal, so I’ll leave it to y’all.
@rjquillin capital C in clue is for Clark aka Clark Smith who travels the country discussing the corelation of drinking wine while listening to music, aka “composing” something. This seems easy to me, he has wine, and who else could spark such a conversation on an Initial offering? I want to know what I get for being right, because I would be surprised if I was wrong.
At this late stage, with no clue, and with the effort put in to my analysis of an apparent non- clue, I would hope WD feels somewhat pressured into either of the options offered. So which is it WD, Brotherhood or Scott Harvey?
@Winedavid49 You’re having way too much fun with this :p
Also, that feels like a Blues Brothers reference. Dan Aykroyd wine would be awesome, but I don’t think even WD can pull off a Canadian winery for the first offer here.
Band back together eh? Mixed cases of woot cellars wines would be out of the question for multitudes of reasons, don’t see Cohn, but some of the wooter favs for sure, although not sure if Peter has anything left (perhaps cases of Chard!). I could see Scott, perhaps TO, Pedroncelli easily, perhaps a casemate labeled wine?
@bsevern early on in the kickstarter, WD did mention he was getting the old band back together; I took that to mean some of the original people involved with pre-mothership ww, many that are now here at meh and instrumental with this phoenix we’re awaiting in ~3+ hours.
@jmruru@peterW himself is around, you could try asking him, but I expect that their license to sell using the wellington name is either expired or soon to expire. I have no idea what happens after that?
@Twich22 I don’t know the state of his licensing, but I recall him mentioning in the WW forums that it would be March when he contractually loses the ability to sell Wellington label wine.
@andrd Interesting question. @lichme? Are you doing your notification service in the way you do for the other sites? WineStalker has a nice ring to it.
@Shrdlu Possibly, but it probably depends on if @shawn or somebody decides to make an official feed to source from. I’m still waiting on one for MorningSave.
from the LIttle vineyard thread: Where should I put the clue for the next wine? presumably here. I ain’t no saint, but i’ll try to do these clues before every offer.
@ScottW58 Two Pinot’s in a row? Nah…We need to bring out the big guns…Some Petite Sirah would be splendid. Followed with some Alicante Bouschette (Noir de Noir) would be awesome, too!
Except my credit card will be happier if those things AREN’T up for sale soon…
@WineDavid49 I should add…Given the Librarian hint, I’d also like to add that if it is a KR PS, a library vertical would be out of this world awesome…Our first case that isn’t all the same wine? That would be tremendous.
@Winedavid49 And this has so messed up my planned tasting at work tomorrow.
Perhaps it will continue with an enhanced chapter two, if there is any left…
PnP just doesn’t do this justice.
@Twich22 hope it was worth it. I’ll be adding additional notes again this evening.
We really can’t say what it is, just salivate 'till it goes live. @winedavid49 clue was actually pretty easy with google, it was fun watching the guesses.
Who got the PN and is slacking? @rpm needs to get these as well
@MarkDaSpark@vaaccess and likely another auto-buy.
Sigh, January is offering no relief from December, and BD is only a week away.
At least it’s only three a week.
@Winedavid49 so 3 reds in a row followed by a white. If I’m I betting man I’d say another white. But I’ll take a guess in 2 parts. 1)Reynolds Family wine. 2)Naughty Syrah
Clue to WD49: Vinelog.com posts current offers from various wine websites. They still have Wine.Woot as one of the sites. Contact them and ask them to 1) remove it and 2) to add casemates.
@WineDavid49 ought to know about this, and I’m tagging him just to make sure. Just in case he’s got notification turned off (I would, if I were him, because he’s popular), I’ll also poke @dave and @snapster.
That said, I’m exhausted and not sure i’ll make it to Midnight ET. Why can’t it be earlier??? I think we should push it to Midnight of the earliest US based time zone. Those in USVI or Bermuda would certainly appreciate it, right?
I think we should push it to Midnight of the earliest US based time
zone.
Great idea! That would be Guam where it is 9:20 PM, Monday as I am typing. Fifteen hours ahead of me on the East Coast. So, instead of waiting until midnight I’d have to get up by seven AM!
@Winedavid49 I love puzzles almost as much as I love wine. Well, maybe not that much, but I do enjoy them. Please keep this “clue” thing going. It’s fun. If it’s too much trouble, staff it out.
this needed another clue. sooner next time: “Stewart is a Scottish surname (also used as a masculine given name) possibly of pre-7th century Old English origin, derived from stigeweard, the genitive prefix stige meaning “hall”, and the suffix weard meaning “guardian” or “warden”.”
The progenitor of the Stewart family was Alan fitz Flaad, a Breton knight who settled in England after the Norman Conquest. His son, Walter fitz Alan, relocated to Scotland during the Anarchy, became the High Steward of Scotland, hence the origin of the surname.
The House of Stewart was the longest serving royal dynasty of Scotland.
"Agustin Huneeus has been discovering great vineyards of the world throughout a career in wine spanning five decades and 15 countries.
Agustin and wife Valeria founded the Quintessa estate in the renowned Rutherford District of Napa Valley in 1990 and after years of running global wine companies, established a family portfolio of wines that represent the finest vineyard estates, appellations and wines in both North and South America.
In addition to the Quintessa estate, Agustin’s current vineyard and winery projects include Faust Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon and Illumination Napa Valley Sauvignon Blanc."
@ScottW58 I’m confused…what did WD give away?
And I guess it’s a bit comforting that if I were given the task of coming up with a clue the first thing I thought of was “85”
Arnie Esterer of Markko Vineyards in Conneaut, OH is 85 but I know that’s not it. Just got me to thinking about the time Clark Smith stopped in Cleveland while doing an Amtrak book tour for Postmodern Winemaking. He did a private tasting for us (which included his Roman Reserve Cab Franc a full 2 years before it was released) then we hung out with him again the following day as he visited Arnie at Markko Vineyards. Arnie and his late partner were disciples of Dr. Konstantin Frank who first brought vinifera grapes to New York’s Finger Lakes in the 1950s or 60s. After tasting with Arnie for awhile, we all trekked over to M Cellars to visit with Ohio’s vinifera torch-bearer Matt Meineke. The winery was closed to the public that day so we had the place to ourselves to taste most of the wines, including barrel samples. Clark also played some guitar and sang for us while Arnie hummed along. Good times…
@merrybill Black Cat sells out just about everything every year. I think EMH Black Cat, after a Berserker Day sale, could already be low on inventory. Gotta be some other connection to Sylvester.
@jmdavidson1 Well I didn’t want to go towards the only other Sylvester I could think of, but maybe a winery with Rocky in its name, like Rocky Pond or - surprise - Rocky Marciano Winery is the answer.
@InFrom harvest moon is a phase of the full moon. Randy as in getting Randy as in sexual work out… really I picked the wine they listed as a Valentine’s special.
/giphy austin powers randy
@InFrom poor timing to have left my camera, with pics of rat wines, at work. The last two were at the party; likely this as well, and I have zero memory.
@MarkDaSpark@rjquillin
Senses seems to be mailing list only for their distribution. I’ve not heard of them. Good?
(I just joined the mailing list, just in case )
Davis Family Vineyards out of Healdsburg would be out of this world! They treated a bunch of us Wooters sooo well when Texacaliali took us there and they have been winning a lot of awards lately.
OK, I give up. How does the clue associate with Charles Smith?
Charles Smith has been called everything from the Wildman of Walla Walla to Winemaker of the Year (2009 Food and Wine Magazine & 2010 Seattle Magazine). Looking more like rock star Sammy Hagar of Van Halen fame, than the stereotypical winemaker, Charles is a rock star in the winemaking world.
Next time, could you get some Davis PN?
@rjquillin@Winedavid49
The “Hardy” took my mind directly to Laurel and Hardy. A quick search for “Laurel winery” took me to Laurel Glen, Laurel Ridge, and one other I can’t recall. The I related the “Ross” to Glengarry Glen Ross. Good grief…are WD’s clues starting to make sense to me?
Eric Ross would be interesting; highly unlikely.
Stephen Ross perhaps a bit less so, but still unlikely.
Fort Ross would be hardy.
May as well be Madonna…
We make our signature red blend “Persistence” from this vineyard which is a blend of 60% Cabernet Sauvignon, 15% Cabernet Franc, 15% Merlot, 8% Syrah and 2% Petit Verdot.
@klezman@rjquillin
I don’t recall ever seeing Boyd before. I thought about Hunt, too, but WD’s clues almost always lead me down a musical oath for some reason…
@InFrom@karenhynes@Winedavid49
My first thought was cheese and Rube-Goldberg devices. Just goes to show you how different people react Clayhouse obviously makes sense.
From the article;
“The Vintage Wine Estates team will take on all national sales and marketing responsibilities for the two brands effective immediately. The current winemakers for both Clayhouse and Buried Cane will continue to make the wines in the traditional style and flavor profile that have garnered critical acclaim.”
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
I thought it was Two and a Half Men, plus a half = three. Charlie Sheen/Harper.
Either way, we both get to 3!
I would never have gotten to this particular wine though.
Hmmmmm…there’s also the possibility of the “other” Elvis (Costello).
I know he’s had concerts at a few CA wineries:
Roadhouse Winery
The Mountain Winery
Chateau Ste Michelle
He also had a song “Down Among the Wines and Spirits” which included this lyric:
“Bubbles escaping from him from the rim of a glass of grape”.
WD did recently mention that there may be some bubbles in our future…
Possibilities?
Iron Horse
Gruet
@rjquillin No…the tar pits are on the order of a few tens of thousands of years old. Younger than the dinosaurs by several tens of millions of years. Lots of sabre-toothed cats, however. (But don’t call them tigers either.)
@jmdavidson1 Me, Scott or Peter? Nope.
I was just looking at woot bottles with ‘old’ and throwing a dart.
But there are a few other choices that fit that criteria as well.
Perhaps some Inspiration Vineyards
@karenhynes Thanks. The flavor profile looks interesting. You going to the Chappellet wine pairing dinner next Wednesday in LaGrange? (see Mainstreet.com)
@jmdavidson1
I wish I could. Work has been pretty crazy and it’s too hard to reliably get anywhere on a weeknight. It’s one I seriously thought about though. I just don’t want to book it and then end up being late and missing half.
Hope Estate Shiraz Ripper Creek (2012?) Western Australia seems more likely ($24) price-wise than 2012 Booker Vineyard The Ripper Grenache Paso Robles ($65).
Macauley Vineyard, probably Zin or PN. Sadly, they only make about 75 cases of PS.
The Macauley Vineyard label was originally established in St. Helena in the early 1980s by Ann Macauley Watson …
Her son Mac Watson is the current proprietor. Winemaker is his childhood friend Kirk Venge. Kirk is son of Nils, and helped create Venge Vineyard.
Kirk has been on WW before, as winemaker for B Cellers in 2011. Nils has been on as Saddleback Cellers.
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@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
Hahaha! I had a migraine and went to bed early.
Truthfully, I would never have guessed from those clues. I’ll try to be back in the game Tuesday evening!
@Winedavid49
OK, my one completely off the wall guess will be Miner Family Oracle…though you’d have to have gotten a screaming deal on it. If it screams loudly enough, I could be persuaded.
(Golden State plays at the Oracle Arena)
So my first guess, Virtue Wines, was a fairly quick jump form the clue to “patience” to “patience is a virtue” to "Virtue Wines.
I was OK with that guess until i thought to myself “that’s not really WD’s style”.
So…I literally Googled “I hate waiting” and the first thing that came up was:
Princess Bride! Aaaahhhh…much more WD’s style!!! This led directly to “Inigo Montoya” to “the Spaniard” to “Twisted Oak”.
@InFrom@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49 Hehe, no… they have a boxing ring on the property that was used in the movie Bottle Shock, about half of which was filmed at Kunde, IIRC.
A) Mike Wheeler used a candlestick There’s a candlestick in Clue (kid’s game)
C) Candlestick Ridge Vineyards provides grapes to both Duckhorn and Robert Craig. (Or used to do so for Duckhorn.)
D) Robert Craig has been on WW, but not for a while
E) RC uses CRV in their Howell Mtn Merlot.
@karenhynes My brain went lieutenant rather than corporal. You may very well be right, especially given we had a bottle of Sofia Rose in our party pack.
@karenhynes@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49 I’m sticking with corporal since it’s between sergeant and private mentioned in the clue… and yes, you deserve a promotion!
@jmdavidson1 my bad. I suck at delegating. Yesterday was a full day. Met with Lucas Meeker, Janae at Sunce, Randy at harvest moon and the folks at thumbprint and Dry creek Vineyards. Some cool things cooking. Clue you in later…
@InFrom@karenhynes@rjquillin@Winedavid49 Darn, I meant to guess Meadowcroft before there was a clue (saw Tom Meadowcroft hanging around one of the poll discussions over the weekend). Good clue tonight and nice work by @pseudogourmet98!
@Winedavid49 ok let us get picky and say you had a repeat of Scott Harvey (just a bottle in a mix). Also repeat vinyards of Twisted Oak, WineSmith, OneSta, and Pavi. But you did say pure repeat. Went back and looked I retract Rasmussen as that was a sellout or almost sellout. I’ll go with Broken Earth
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
Six Sigma is a good guess as well…probably makes more sense than CG di Arie given we haven’t seem Chaim here in ages and ages.
Gallo has a lot of “Process Improvement” statements, and MacMurray is part of their portfolio.
But Six Sigma has been up here, so they seem to be leading. C.G. DiArie would also be nice, sad we missed them on the tour. They were in that same area, but happy with the ones we went to!
@Winedavid49 also can you please respond to my issue with expedited shipping being “sold out” when I ordered the Vino Noceto? Apparently it was a temporary glitch that I and a few others commented on in the offer discussion. I can’t edit the order on my end, but I definitely want the expedited shipping. Thanks.
@InFrom@MarkDaSpark LOL, too true although I never see those anymore because I bought wine direct from Clark’s website one time using PayPal and now they email the address associated with my PP account which I rarely use for anything personal. In fact, I had to chase down a shipment of his sparkling Grenache for ratting purposes one time because I never saw the email that it was coming.
@Winedavid49, @MarkDaSpark
WD did recently meet up with Joy. Could it be some IH bubbles?
(Is the “z” in WD’s original post part of the clue, or an innocent typo?)
In January 2002, New Line began recalling all promotional materials for Goldmember after MGM sent a cease-and-desist order stating that New Line was attempting to make money off of their James Bond franchise.
The lawsuit was settled in April, just three months ahead of the film’s release, with New Line telling CNN that “as part of the agreement to allow use of the ‘Goldmember’ title, all future titles that may be construed as parodies of James Bond will be subject to MGM’s approval.”
Hopefully IH bubbly. IIRC, I think WD was talking with Joy some weeks back, so I think @karenhynes is correct with that guess.
Spy who shagged me = Spy who loved me
Goldmember = Goldfinger
Actually, my original thought when I saw the clue was 2 Buck Chuck, think Steve Austin, the six million dollar man, but I decided that WD would not be offering 2 Buck chuck.
@Winedavid49 well, that was nicely obscure, unless one had read the winery info!
This vineyard is named “Southwind” … the name with which our ship “Cadaretta” was re-christened when it was conscripted for military duty in World War II.
This is so weird and frustrating … I could have sworn I posted it was either Dusted Valley or Cadaretta! More Cadaretta because they had been on WW last.
Googled: “southwind vineyard sourced”. Well, first without the “sourced” part.
List showed Cadaretta 5th & 7th, with Dusted Valley 8th. Both listed Southwind Vineyard as a source, looking at their vineyards.
Then googled Cadaretta with Wine.Woot, and 3rd was their 2011 Cadaretta Columbia Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 4-Pack, sold by Middleton Family WInes on WW in Aug 2016.
Dusted Valley was in April on WW, so decided Cadaretta was the more likely (being Middleton and the more recent), so I swear I had posted something about it possibly being DV but more “Cadaretta Columbia Valley Cabernet Sauvignon, by Middleton Family WInes, 2013 or 2014 this time”.
And no one had posted anything yet! I guess I hadn’t hit the “Say it” button on my tablet. And didn’t check again, because I was with my family and was getting dinner. Oh well, C’est la vie.
@Winedavid49 Well, there’s a Four Brothers winery/vineyard. Buoncristiani also prominently talks about four brothers running the place.
Then there’s the Vina Robles Red4 blend, which is PS, Syrah, Grenache, and Mourvedre.
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
I thought maybe not them just because the list price is so high. But sounds interesting! Too bad a rat bottle didn’t make it to this weekend’s gathering!
@Winedavid49 … While wishing it was Iron Horse (except we were in Lodi & Amador, not Sonoma, so they couldn’t “miss” the cut), has to be another.
Andis?
Although Deaver Vineyards has an Almond Sparkling wine from Shenandoah Valley. Grape growers for over 150 years.
But LVVR Sparkling Cellars in Lodi was one of the 10 hottest brands in 2016 and is the (or was at the time) only méthode champenoise producers locally.
Most likely is Deaver Vineyards, since a majority of Zin grapes are “Deaver clones”.
Edit: I would have said Twisted Oak, but they don’t have a sparkling wine. Or is that extraneous?
WD is backpacking, so the WCC team has come up with today’s clue(s)! Check out our Instagram and Facebook stories (@casemateswine) for clues and come back here to place your bets.
ADDITIONALLY… another clue will be posted in the forums this afternoon.
Per your request, @rjquillin, here is this afternoons clue early: Visit this winery for their single vineyard wines in addition to a good bocce ball game…
@karenhynes@rjquillin@Winedavid49
…and a good “get”. Too many negative reviews on those Chaucer Meads that used to be offered on WW, so I never bought any despite liking Mead. Also, I have a go-to Ohio brand that is generally enough to satisfy my occasional cravings for Mead - but I have a good feeling about Hidden Legend and look forward to trying these!
Clue:
Elena Gilbert/Katherine Pierce’s birth country’s festival with masked men. Sadly, not a Gurkha’s knife, but close. And don’t forget the Thracian god of wine, fertility and rebirth!
Breakdown:
Nina Dobrev (actress) plays both parts. Search on the names find her. Born in Bulgaria.
Bulgarian festival with masked men is the Kukeri (Gurkha knife is Kukri).
Dionysus is the god.
Searching on Google using: dionysus, kukeri, winery
@karenhynes@Winedavid49 Nah – interesting, yes, edifying, definitely, but lively, not feeling it. “Cathy’s wine’s great.” “Agreed.” “I need more moolah.” “Agreed.”
@danandlisa That “magnifico” tells me it’s got to be a winery with Italian or Spanish inspiration in there somewhere, Noceto or someone like that. But despite the fact that it’s Fall… so something more suitable for summer? Or something with Spring or Summer in the name… Primavera something or other? OK, I give up.
@danandlisa@InFrom@karenhynes
The season reference makes me think it’s a pink or white - maybe the (nearly) annual Pedroncelli Rose offer? I’d take down some of that…it’s a go-to in our house.
@Winedavid49
I have a bottle of this to rat at home, but I don’t yet know what it is. (And I don’t get home until 4.5 hours after rollover, so the report is coming tomorrow night.)
Could this be Inglenook??
@ScottW58 Allowed, sure! But we both know I am more nerdy about the wine than she is and especially with a big red blend she’d rather I was around to help drink it!
@karenhynes@radiolysis@rjquillin
I’m on board the Slingshot train. I tried to sing Alison at a karaoke bar for the first time when we were in Chicago last month. Thankfully jmdavidson and karenhynes weren’t around for that debacle.
@jmdavidson1@karenhynes Somehow I fell off the list for this one. Hope I can stand the suspense for the next 43 minutes (if I can stay away that long)? It’s always a good day when Clark and his wine show up.
@InFrom@jmdavidson1@karenhynes Yeah, I didn’t get the email until 8:55pm PDT. But I knew what it was because Ron mentioned he was getting a rat bottle.
OK, that’ll teach me to try to get all fancy and post quotes from my phone, early in the a.m.! Anyway, Al and Neil have a lot in common – they both sing in a pretty high register, and, they’re both great!
@chipgreen@jmdavidson1@klezman@rjquillin Love that one too! Actually, in my brain today, I would start out with one song and it would somehow morph into the other.
Better get a clue going. i’m heading out early to enjoy the weather in one of the last days before daylight savings. ah, the good life and a sense of well being.
@karenhynes@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49 Agreed. Good wines and enjoyed the gallery. Was raining the weekend of the Casemates launch, but their outdoor area looked legit. I would be surprised if we saw them here though.
And here I was trying to find a catcher that had a nickname of Postman (il Postino). Then I thought it might be a Fresno State catcher. There’s a Ward who went to the Angels, but the Ward Johnson Winery in Seattle looks small.
There was also a Wynns at FSU. And there’s a Wynns Coonawarra Estate winery. So maybe one of the importers?
@karenhynes +1 says I have enuf wines, so why should we go? Guess I’m on a SIWBO. Who knew?
No idea about the catcher. Catcher in the Rye? JD Salinger. Holden Caufield.
Well, it almost indicates Johnny Bench, with Dave Concepción and Pete Rose on the 1970 Cincinnati Reds team, but no Brad on the roster at the time. Later, Brad “The Animal” Lesley was pitching, but no Johnny Bench.
However, there was Alex Trevino catching, with Brad pitching and Dave & Pete infield.
There’s a Trevino Vineyards in Calistoga, but small. So maybe a closeout?
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49 I think you should read Sparky’s post again, rather than complaining about the clue, he’s just punning you based on the translated name of the wine.
@Winedavid49
I would guess Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel since Burt Reynolds played “Mother” in The Longest Yard and Rami Malek practically cloned Freddie Mercury’s Live Aid performance but what’s the cause? Hmm…
@chipgreen@Winedavid49 Maybe some variety of OneHope winery’s stuff? They have a “California Brut Sparkling Wine Rainbow Glitter Edition” which looks like might be fun (Seriously doubt it, but throwing the guess in for the entertainment value.)
Hope everyone is having a nice thanksgiving holiday. I’ve been tracking this wine source for over 2 1/2 years. Very excited for their first offer. it’s a real treasure.
@Winedavid49 One of the Treasury Wine Estates properties? But that seems almost silly.
There’s also a Treasure Winery in Napa
There’s also a couple wines on the theme of “x marks the spot”
@klezman@Winedavid49
There are also Treasure Hunter wines, somewhat along the lines of Cameron Hughes, with declassified surplus wines from presumably higher end wineries being produced under the Treasure Hunter label.
@karenhynes@Winedavid49 Or that libation that became a favorite of my elders, back in the '70s. I guess it was a marketing play, suddenly it was everywhere!
/giphy Harvey’s Bristol Cream
@karenhynes@Winedavid49 there is the book about Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart named “Hank and Jim”. So my guesses are… Lafonda or Anderson Valley Vineyards (run by a Hank)
@karenhynes@radiolysis this is a great answer. I recently watched the movie Spencer’s Mountain (again 30 years later) And forgot how mich that movie impacted me. Loved Henry Fonda in that movie.
@catcoland@Winedavid49 Lol, of course! Here I was translating 4 into “quattro” and going down that dead end, when all I needed to do was read it out loud. Good one, WD.
@karenhynes@karenhynes
Funny you should say that. Something about my glasses that makes it easier to read my phone squinting through only one eye, when I’m reading in bed. My spouse caught me at it last night, scrolling through the latest dramedy on meh. “Are you reading with your eyes closed?!?” I’m sure it’s a very attractive look.
@jmdavidson1@karenhynes there’s still a chance! While browsing through various sites, most sites advertising guaranteed delivery by dec 24 via FedEx if ordered by today. If we don’t see it within 3 days I wouldn’t hold your breath.
If I had remembered to check before 9, I would have first guessed Lil White from Little Red Wagon Winery.
But if I had time, second guess might have been Red Car. Because Karen got it a previous time they were up (May 23 offer), and I think she guessed McPhail first then too! (After I guessed Red Zepplin and Red Truck back then.)
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
I knew there had been a similarly themed clue previously and was going to look back through old offers but then I got distracted by football and sleepiness.
It sounds yummy but after the past few weeks I officially have far too much wine.
“Always”? That was her Wish List!
She has the WD Mind Meld down pat, and usually has the correct offer right away! I just happened to beat her this time.
@InFrom@MarkDaSpark@rjquillin@Winedavid49
I think we might be reading too much into what was likely a typing issue. Greg Martellotto is a wine importer as well as a winemaker. I don’t see any connection to the HA CL capitalization. Pretty simple clue once you know the answer, unless I’m totally missing something. Then again, it’s 4:12 am here and I’m still awake for no good reason, so I may just be rambling on nonsensically.
@InFrom@karenhynes@MarkDaSpark@rjquillin@Winedavid49
I didn’t spend much time on it but was thinking of the Treasure Hunter guy, Hunter Vogle. I think he is more of a negociant than an importer though, ala Cameron Hughes.
I am sitting on a couple 2010 Martellotto Cabernet Sauvignon M Spring Mountain Cabs that I got from wine.woot in '13 and also still have 1 bottle of Piro Piro Piccolo Pinot Grigio which was a Martelloto offering.
CT has not been kind to the Cab. Surprising for Spring Mt. fruit but I will wait on them until 2020+ to make sure they are out of any possible dumb phase.
@Winedavid49 Well now that we know the wine, that’s quite the sneaky clue! Well done!
I was almost right about the mega-black-tie, though…this wine at this price is utterly amazing.
@Winedavid49
I actually considered that Scott Harvey was German-educated but the fact that his Rieslings are under the Jana label threw me off. I did think about the Angel Eis for a second after discounting the regular Riesling but I just wasn’t confident that I was on the right path…
Benziger red wine offer … Kant was known for “Thing in itself” concept, and there’s an essay about Benziger getting ISO 14000 certification that mentions it.
For you guys (and Sparky), I will “show my work” (some of it).
I originally went in a completely different direction and thought Kant is a father/central figure in modern philosophy/meta physics. I think of Clark as our de facto father of (post) modern winemaking. Hmmmm…but we usually get a heads-up email. I ran off to check mine (hacked my way in! )…nope, no email. Then I went off on another couple of tangents. Then I accidentally blinked and forgot to open my eyes for about half an hour (). Then I decided to go back to basics.
From our friends at Wikipedia:
“…He drew a parallel to the Copernican revolution in his proposition that worldly objects can be intuited a priori (“beforehand”), and that intuition is therefore independent from objective reality…”
Aha!!! A priori! I think we’ve seen an Apriori offer before.
@Winedavid49 geez. i get into such a rabbit hole about “why is fifty in words, but thirty is in numerals”. “why is there a space before the exclamation point”.
@Winedavid49 Hmm…Rod Stewart… Another Stewart Cellars? I just moved my remaining bottles (from the Feb 2018 offering here) of it down to Missouri earlier this week.)
OK, Coming clean, i could use help on a clue for tonight. can someone whisper me? first one to whisper is the helper (unless @karenhynes) chimes in after you. then it’s her
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
I was just going to say that while Laura Michael seems more likely, Michael David did make an appearance on WW back in the day…
No, no. I’m usually implying she’s mind-melded (Vulcan style) with WD or that she’s paid someone on staff. It’s fine for someone else to claim she’s a leet hacker.
@Winedavid49
Alternate strange guesses…
Pressley Vineyards (ála Elvis Presley “thank you very much”)
Maybe a nice pinot from Kaufman Vineyard (ála Andy Kaufman “thank you very much”)
Now you’re getting lazy, recycling clues! (Well, sort of)
Clue:
Elena Gilbert/Katherine Pierce’s birth country’s festival with masked men. Sadly, not a Gurkha’s knife, but close. And don’t forget the Thracian god of wine, fertility and rebirth!
Breakdown:
Nina Dobrev (actress) plays both parts. Search on the names find her. Born in Bulgaria.
Bulgarian festival with masked men is the Kukeri (Gurkha knife is Kukri).
Dionysus is the god.
Searching on Google using: dionysus, kukeri, winery
Though, he is also the winemaker at Meadowcroft, whose pinots were offered here a while back and were fantastic. Either way, I sense a purchase in my future if pinot is involved.
@Winedavid49
Oooh…Sterling. haven’t been there for about 10 years (maybe longer) They have a beautiful location and tasting room. Next time get me some of their Malvasia Bianca!
@Winedavid49 Marin County - Kendric? I did see Stew make an appearance the other day with the Leoni offer. Or maybe McEvoy Ranch?
I’d be tickled pink if it was from Skywalker Vineyard
@Winedavid49
You may think my answer’s insane,
Not serious, I surely maintain,
But this clever girl,
Will give it a whirl,
And guess that it’s Limerick Lane.
No, no. If I had checked back in before I left my son’s home, @Turner103200 and Karen’s comments would have triggered Little Vineyards. The pieces were all there.
@Winedavid49
Hmmm, all I can think of is Disney, Chuck E. Cheese and goats. There are some Disney related wineries/vineyards, so I’ll throw a few out there;
@chipgreen@rjquillin@Winedavid49
Just got home from dinner. My first thoughts (other than Disney) are Sesame Street or Mr Roger’s Neighborhood…
Not much time to ponder…
"Wooden Valley is a small, almost round valley, approximately two miles wide at its widest point and located 9 miles northeast of the town of Napa within the Napa Valley appellation. … “Wooden Valley was named for John Wooden, a giant among men at 6’8″ tall, who purchased the area in 1852”.
To be sure, decade-old Alysian Wines is filled with great pedigree, having been founded by Woody’s grandfather Bill Hambrecht and Gary Farrell in 2006. Both these iconic wine figures were steeped in success, Hembrecht with Ridge Vineyards and Belvedere Vineyards and Winery and Farrell with Davis Bynum Winery, Rochioli Winery and Limerick Lane in addition to his own Gary Farrell Vineyards and Winery.
When both veterans decided to retire in 2013, grandson Woody Hambrecht took over the reins at Alysian Wines and slowly began to change the direction of the smallish Russian River Valley winery.
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
I think you nailed it and it sounds very compelling… dammit! How am I supposed to maintain even a half-assed SIWBM with all these great offers? I shake my fist in WD’s general direction!
@Winedavid49 Isn’t Karen writing these clues anyway? How about starting a new thread, such as A Clue You Ask 2019? This one doesn’t always condense, so it takes forever to scroll to the bottom.
@jmdavidson1@karenhynes@Winedavid49
Instead of clicking on the name of the thread, just click on “…replied 5 minutes ago”. It takes you straight to the last post, which for this thread is where you want to go.
@karenhynes@pseudogourmet98@Winedavid49 That doesn’t always work. Not sure why. The last 10 posts are supposed to be listed, but sometimes the whole thread is there.
@karenhynes@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
Should not have been so quick to assume Malbec, especially since I was just reading an article in Wine Enthusiast about how winemakers in Argentina are expanding their offerings of both reds and whites.
A trip to Argentinian wine country is definitely on my bucket list.
Close enough. The Mendoza line! One of the more humorous sayings in the game that have stuck around. It really means, to players, “great glove, no bat”. Mendoza the player was a superb defensive shortstop. The fact that he played and was a 200 hitter, is a testiment to his defensive prowess.
Even though he just had an offer, I’ll guess WineSmith since he obscures the UPC symbol on the back labels of his wines with a tiger.
Perhaps that Petit Manseng he talked about?
The only other wineries I can think of that fit and could be called “favorites” are Ty Caton because “Ty”, Leoni Farms because they have a big cat on their labels (although I presumed it to be a mountain lion), or Hahn Estates because they have a rooster on their label which is also the symbol for Kellogg’s who makes Frosted Flakes.
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
Ha! I’m dining alone tonight…Like a loser, with my bottle of Meadowcroft Pinot. I feel less loser-like with my nose in my phone than just staring off at nothing.
@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
Old World Winery also made an orange Pinot Gris sold on WW (think I still have one) but that would not qualify as “one of our favorites” as per the clue. Don & Sons would though, so you might be on to something. Still, I am sticking with my WineSmith guess…
“Chaim then joined the Quaker Oats company where he helped develop the breakfast Cereal Cap’n Crunch. He moved to California to become Director of New Products at Del Monte Corporation where he created an array of new products including “Pudding Cups”, “Gel Cups”, “Yogurt Cups”, etc. In 1974 Chaim married Elisheva and founded Food Development Corporation, where he developed numerous new products including Hidden Valley Ranch Salad Dressing, Power Bars and Wine Coolers.”
@karenhynes@klezman@MarkDaSpark@Winedavid49
Not familiar with Donkey & Goat but enthusiastically second Broc Cellars who did appear on WW back in the day with some Grenache.
@CorTot@Winedavid49
That would be lovely, but would kill my credit card right now.
“Two in a row”…
Two bubbles in a row (iron horse?)
Two “favorites” in a row? Two “auto buys”? (Soooo many possibilities here but we do know there’s more WineSmith in the works.)
Cursed at? @Klezman did say just the other day “Damn, Donkey & Goat would be amazing to have here, as would Broc Cellars!” And WD replied “ok, on it”. Hmmmmm.
@karenhynes Did you and @chipgreen basically simul-post? I was thinking your post was in reaction to his, but it seems inspiration struck you both around the same time.
Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Revolver
@Cerridwyn
The pirate in the wine cellar with the the rubber chicken. Twisted Oak FTW! *%#&@! perhaps?
@pseudogourmet98
Well done sir! (i assume the sir)
@Cerridwyn You assume wrong
@klezman then well done mad’am or mademoiselle
Tease you do, we need TT to help out.
@rjquillin
thumperchick will do 
Still living in the past
@ScottW58 Some are proven, others yet unknown.
But I’ve got an open mind, and, seemingly, wallet as well.
@rjquillin
/giphy hai
@Thumperchick we have a lot of new names to engage with.
どうもありがとうございました
@Thumperchick yum
Copa
Pedroncelli could supply a thousand cases I bet, a good opener?
@ScottW58 And Ed would certainly make for a few days of interesting winery chat to introduce those not familiar to ww what winery participation is all about.
Wonder if a rat bottle is in the wild.
Heck, this could even be a CM custom launch bottle.
That would be more than exciting.
How about a 2015 Trump Meritage
@Twich22 The tasting notes on CT are amusing.
Beef Jerky?
/giphy beef jerky time
all right. i’ll compose something soon.
@Winerdavid49 Roses are red, violets are blue, here is some nasty JanKris for you.
But seriously, it’s a decanter, right?
@mother If there ever was a worst ten list of WW, that JanKris offering in the early days would have to be leading the list.
@Lighter Yep. JanKris, Cycles and Kunde early on were all at the wrong end of the scale in my opinion. That said, it’s possible the’ve made improvements, or got new ownership/new winemaker/new vines??? Something needed to change, no doubt.
@vaaccess I think that in those early days - one offering a week - wineries didn’t know what to make of woot wine. And didn’t put their “good” stuff on the line. I’d guess that winedavid had to do some serious arm twisting to come up with those early offerings.
@mother LOL
@Lighter Agreed. Long story short…I’m doing a SMALL bit of vines on our land, struggling, but anyway…pondered what it would be like to have to sell wine that I made that I didn’t like. Terrifying prospect!
@Winedavid49 Clark it is.
@North316 This too would make sense.
Perhaps his bubbles…
@Winedavid49 Have we even gotten the clue yet?
If so, they used to be a bit more enhanced…
@North316 Took me a while, but finally figured out what you’re talking about. That could work well. Then there’s also Celia Ramsay, i.e. Kent Rasmussen’s wife. A KR offering to start this place off could be rather interesting.
@Lighter @vaaccess oh geez… I remember the JanKris… and the Kunde… the horror… the horror
“Compose” sounds like a musical hint. There’s a number of musician owned wineries:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_celebrities_who_own_wineries_and_vineyards
It’s probably BR Cohn, since they’re in Sonoma and big enough to deal with a couple hundred wayward cases, but I’m hoping for “Little Jonathan Winery” or maybe “Vince Neil Vineyards”.
“Claypool Cellars” has to be riddled with Brett, and terrific.
edit: also, the ‘C’ in “Clue” is capitalized…
@andyduncan
Including Fess Parker.
@andyduncan “compose” could refer to a blend, as in a composition of various grapes.
@andyduncan Rasa Vineyards in Washington has a Riesling they call “The Composer”
@merrybill
Rasa makes some really nice wines!
@andyduncan PlumpJack…probably too high bar for us but was co-founded by a composer.
It’s little vineyards. They definitely have a musical background.
@CorTot And memorabilia all over the place. But do they fit with “Clue” also?
@CorTot my guess as well
@CorTot Well done!
Toccata???
A “Clue”, and “compose something”.
A mystery blend, perhaps?
A conundrum now, and yet not on Monday.
I feel like WD used to do this often in the early days… (of that previous site)… spending Sunday trying to figure out what the next wine would be. Oh, the nostalgia!
@jasisk I never guessed right back then either!
I’m just taking out a small loan and putting my wallet in the freezer to ensure it doesn’t spontaneous combust on the 1st offering!
If WineDavid’s clue is Colonel Mustard in the library with a revolver, that may be a reference to Steven Millhauser short stories in the Barnum Museum. He describes a bottle of wine a quarter filled and it’s label is a grape arbor with three purple birds overhead and also describes a wine glass with the legend “Brotherhood: America’s oldest winery.” We can go two ways here, the first is the Brotherhood winery in the Hudson valley of New York, or Scott Harvey, the oldest deeded vineyard in the state of California. No more obtuse then “Invisible” as a clue leading to Jimmy Stewart, WDs favorite actor starring in the movie Harvey, which was a clue for Scott Harvey. So I really hope that Colonel mustard in the library was in fact Wine David’s clue. Will find out tomorrow whether it’s winner winner chicken dinner or try again next time.
@msten Ah, but Colonel Mustard was not written by WD. That was just the first reaction to “Clue” in the thread title. What if instead the first comment had been the professor in the study with the candlestick?
@klezman Truly amazing how many have missed that post wasn’t by @Winedavid49, who seems to be in hiding with the promised clue.
@rjquillin @msten I don’t think he’s hiding. I think he’s given two clues:
Take these two together and I suspect we’ve got something related to the game/movie Clue that also has something to do with music. But this is the kind of puzzling I’m terrible at, especially with my pop culture knowledge being minimal, so I’ll leave it to y’all.
@klezman perhaps, but I’ll still
weak for said clue(s) from @Winedavid49
@rjquillin capital C in clue is for Clark aka Clark Smith who travels the country discussing the corelation of drinking wine while listening to music, aka “composing” something. This seems easy to me, he has wine, and who else could spark such a conversation on an Initial offering? I want to know what I get for being right, because I would be surprised if I was wrong.
@North316 Welcome back into the fold!
You’ve been missing too long.
At this late stage, with no clue, and with the effort put in to my analysis of an apparent non- clue, I would hope WD feels somewhat pressured into either of the options offered. So which is it WD, Brotherhood or Scott Harvey?
Iron Horse Mystery Case
Well, we are getting it back together…
@Winedavid49 Is this a clue, or a comment?
Just sayin’
@rjquillin getting the band back together. but what band?
@Twich22 “band” not in response. “it” was.
We gotta read these responses.
@Winedavid49 You’re having way too much fun with this :p
Also, that feels like a Blues Brothers reference. Dan Aykroyd wine would be awesome, but I don’t think even WD can pull off a Canadian winery for the first offer here.
@Winedavid49 damn, thought I had it with Clark but this doesn’t fit. I lean toward Stillman now, he has a band, right?
@North316 Ohhhh…good point. Forgot about swilly’s band and musical background.
Could be band coming back together, or a mix case of woot favorites, or whatever the first wine.woot offering was?
@tiger7610 First official wine.woot offering was St Supery Cab and Merlot (
WootBot
quality posts: 17 Private Messages
Staff
St. Supéry 2000 Cabernet Sauvignon / Merlot Sampler
Purchaser Experience
Purchaser Seniority
Quantity Breakdown
Percentage of Sales Per Hour
Percentage of Sales Per Day
Woots by State
Quality posts:
@tiger7610 Also, winesthatrock.com
Band back together eh? Mixed cases of woot cellars wines would be out of the question for multitudes of reasons, don’t see Cohn, but some of the wooter favs for sure, although not sure if Peter has anything left (perhaps cases of Chard!). I could see Scott, perhaps TO, Pedroncelli easily, perhaps a casemate labeled wine?
@bsevern early on in the kickstarter, WD did mention he was getting the old band back together; I took that to mean some of the original people involved with pre-mothership ww, many that are now here at meh and instrumental with this phoenix we’re awaiting in ~3+ hours.
East coast here. I hope I can stay up!!!
Could there be any Wellington left?
@jmruru @peterW himself is around, you could try asking him, but I expect that their license to sell using the wellington name is either expired or soon to expire. I have no idea what happens after that?
@Twich22 I don’t know the state of his licensing, but I recall him mentioning in the WW forums that it would be March when he contractually loses the ability to sell Wellington label wine.
@jmruru From the 11/27/17 Woot Off
There won’t be much remaining stock. You might find some on a store shelf in NY, NJ, OH, NH, MO, KY or, of course, CA.
From Toledo to Cleveland to Cincinnati - statewide. With small production, you will only find it in independent shops and restaurants, no chains.
T-minus 2 hours and 3 minutes…
@vaaccess I do like that it’s an hour earlier.
@rjquillin No kidding!!! Even though I’d be staying up no matter what for tonight’s launch, I really like that it’s “just” midnight here.
Seriously. And MLK Jr. day tomorrow (day off) helps too.
@shrimp74 Yep. Very nice way to kick things off!
gonna miss seeing mill
@rjquillin do you know for sure that mill is not on casemates? That would be sad.
@pseudogourmet98 Don’t know, but I’ve not seen ‘first sucker’ capability, or last for that matter, at meh as we knew at ww.
@rjquillin Hadn’t thought about that. As he doesn’t post in the community I think you may br correct that we will not “see” mill.
Just hoping the first one will be something that can ship to AZ. Seems to be a mix of who can.
Is there a Casemates twitter account to follow for deal notifications?
@andrd Interesting question. @lichme? Are you doing your notification service in the way you do for the other sites? WineStalker has a nice ring to it.
@Shrdlu hoping we can give Cesare from that other site a grandfather here.
@Shrdlu Possibly, but it probably depends on if @shawn or somebody decides to make an official feed to source from. I’m still waiting on one for MorningSave.
Five minutes and counting … (not that I’m counting … oh, who am I kidding!)
from the LIttle vineyard thread: Where should I put the clue for the next wine? presumably here. I ain’t no saint, but i’ll try to do these clues before every offer.
@Winedavid49 Velvet Devil?
@pseudogourmet98 nope, that’s a dog answer
@Winedavid49 saintsbury?
Next Clue?
Once a librarian…
Ferguson Crest
@Winedavid49 This is for tomorrow, Friday night; correct? Or am I mixed up and it goes live in ~ six hours?
Time zones… ugh.
Ack, yes; tonight!
@Winedavid49 Hartwood Winery out of Virginia?
@Winedavid49
Ardente Estate Winery Library Cab
@Winedavid49
Easy! Kent Rasmussen
@ScottW58 I second this guess…And if it’s so…And it’s a PS…I’m in. I’m easy. @WineDavid49
@vaaccess
Nooo not PS! Pinot yes
@ScottW58 Two Pinot’s in a row? Nah…We need to bring out the big guns…Some Petite Sirah would be splendid. Followed with some Alicante Bouschette (Noir de Noir) would be awesome, too!
Except my credit card will be happier if those things AREN’T up for sale soon…
@WineDavid49 I should add…Given the Librarian hint, I’d also like to add that if it is a KR PS, a library vertical would be out of this world awesome…Our first case that isn’t all the same wine? That would be tremendous.
@ScottW58 Was Kent a librarian? Celia? I have no memory of these things!
I would love to have his real label Pinot back here. That stuff is great.
@vaaccess
Not to mention Pinot is Kent’s specialty, PS is an afterthought. Alright fire away 
Sure why not a meh pinot and then a great pinot
@klezman
Yes he was, my google fu is strong!
https://grapecollective.com/articles/hippie-to-librarian-to-winemaker-the-rasmussen-story-
@ScottW58 good grief. If his PS was an afterthought to his PN, then I’d have to try it. For sure.
yes, midnight central tonight.
and no you have not gotten it yet.
@Winedavid49 That’s that old site…this one is midnight Eastern!
@Winedavid49 And this has so messed up my planned tasting at work tomorrow.
Perhaps it will continue with an enhanced chapter two, if there is any left…
PnP just doesn’t do this justice.
tl;dr
I’m in for the case on this one.
@rjquillin wow, such a tease
@Twich22 hope it was worth it. I’ll be adding additional notes again this evening.
We really can’t say what it is, just salivate 'till it goes live.
@winedavid49 clue was actually pretty easy with google, it was fun watching the guesses.
Who got the PN and is slacking?
@rpm needs to get these as well
@MarkDaSpark Maybe the silences is the clue…
Cat has his tongue?
Mute?
Speechless?
@MarkDaSpark @winedave.
So quiet
@vaaccess, evidently it will be something from Tercero (Larry Schaffer).
@MarkDaSpark @vaaccess and likely another auto-buy.
Sigh, January is offering no relief from December, and BD is only a week away.
At least it’s only three a week.
@jml326 that would be @winedavid49
@rjquillin @MarkDaSpark I’m unfamiliar with Tercero/Larry…Hmmm…Or maybe I’m just not connecting the dots.
@vaaccess
ww offer
another
and yet another
@rjquillin Thanks for the links…I see what you mean now. Looks like some good stuff!
Late with that clue WD…
Gotta step it up in the future.
Oh, wait;
there wasn’t one!
@winedavid49
Ok, no clue for the Zaca, we gonna get one for this evening’s new offer?
You did re-start a tradition…
is this where I should put it? (not a clue, an honest question).
@Winedavid49 This works well enough!
@Winedavid49 here
and I know, getting a clue out of me is like extracting teeth!
@Winedavid49 so 3 reds in a row followed by a white. If I’m I betting man I’d say another white. But I’ll take a guess in 2 parts. 1)Reynolds Family wine. 2)Naughty Syrah
@Winedavid49 some Pride would be nice, but likely in the old “black tie buy” range. Not that I’m opposed to that.
@Winedavid49 Pull Wines from Broken Earth?
@NightGhost That’s what I was thinking. Seen a lot of that lately, though.
@InFrom At least the Merlot.
@Winedavid49 As long as they’re not over-extracted.
@Winedavid49 @rjquillin If Ron is right and there’s a Toothy III coming, and it’s anything like that Cab Franc…oy, it hurts to contemplate.
@klezman Yeah, unlikely, but fun to think about.
@winedavid49
Woot Cellars Tøøthstejnn Los Alamos would be pretty special.
Dare we think Tøøthstejnn II?
@rjquillin I like this guess best, but will be shocked!
@rjquillin googles Tøøthstejnn Oh man, that would be cool.
@rjquillin I was just thinking of that juice the other day. I’d buy a case for me self in a heartbeat if that were the ‘case’.
Clue to WD49: Vinelog.com posts current offers from various wine websites. They still have Wine.Woot as one of the sites. Contact them and ask them to 1) remove it and 2) to add casemates.
@WineDavid49 ought to know about this, and I’m tagging him just to make sure. Just in case he’s got notification turned off (I would, if I were him, because he’s popular), I’ll also poke @dave and @snapster.
@winedavid49
Eight hours to go.
You working on a clue yet?
@pseudogourmet98 someone has to nag
It’s my civic duty!
@winedavid49
@rjquillin I appreciate you prompting @WineDavid49!
That said, I’m exhausted and not sure i’ll make it to Midnight ET. Why can’t it be earlier??? I think we should push it to Midnight of the earliest US based time zone. Those in USVI or Bermuda would certainly appreciate it, right?
@vaaccess
Great idea! That would be Guam where it is 9:20 PM, Monday as I am typing. Fifteen hours ahead of me on the East Coast. So, instead of waiting until midnight I’d have to get up by seven AM!
@Winedavid49 I love puzzles almost as much as I love wine. Well, maybe not that much, but I do enjoy them. Please keep this “clue” thing going. It’s fun. If it’s too much trouble, staff it out.
@pseudogourmet98 @winedavid49
Yes, it certainly gets us coming back to engage on what may be forthcoming.
@Winedavid49 Clue for the weekend deal?
sorry. will get my act together soon.
@Winedavid49 An actor-owned winery? Fess Parker, perhaps?
actual clue for tonight’s offer: Originally Alan.
@Winedavid49 Part of me wants to say Quintessa, but I’m not sure we’ll be jumping to that level of pricing, will we?
I have no idea where to even begin for that one
@Winedavid49
First thought was Alan Parsons Project, but pretty sure that won’t work for this…
Thomas Allen Wine? Nope, spelled wrong.
Milliaire Winery in Murphys? Close to El Jefe. Humm.
John Alan Winery in Templeton, just south of Paso?
WD does good things from that area, but this just seems too easy.
CaliPaso
No idea…
@rjquillin I was thinking on it earlier, it ended with same results…no idea!
think lineage.
@Winedavid49 guess we’ll soon know
crap, that was late. my bad. blame it on superbowl. .
@Winedavid49 I read the “About Us” and “Our People” sections of the Stewart website and didn’t see any reference to an Alan?
this needed another clue. sooner next time: “Stewart is a Scottish surname (also used as a masculine given name) possibly of pre-7th century Old English origin, derived from stigeweard, the genitive prefix stige meaning “hall”, and the suffix weard meaning “guardian” or “warden”.”
The progenitor of the Stewart family was Alan fitz Flaad, a Breton knight who settled in England after the Norman Conquest. His son, Walter fitz Alan, relocated to Scotland during the Anarchy, became the High Steward of Scotland, hence the origin of the surname.
The House of Stewart was the longest serving royal dynasty of Scotland.
@Winedavid49 It seems so obvious now!
@chipgreen
What the hell!? I’m guessing my crystal ball is broken
@Winedavid49 Genius!
Phew. A free case (or at least a 4-pack) should have been awarded for the first correct answer should that clue have been solved.
See what I did there @winedavid49?
@rjquillin, That maybe why the “clues” were so tough.
i’m a little rusty… ok here goes for the next clue for tonight: Emperor Augustus slept here (we think).
@Winedavid49 ALPHA DOMUS; or Palantine Hills estate winery
@kray05 Palatine Gills in Niagara? Lined them last time I visited!
@klezman lost? Is that you?
@chipgreen I blame my phone for the spelling error
@klezman why do you have Lost’s phone?
@CorTot
@klezman @CorTot
It’s just the Principal of the thing…
I wonder the name Augustus is just a coincidence or they named a son after him
as well.
Has to be Sivas Sonoma
@nostrom0 Oh, that seems like a solid guess. Maybe a back vintage of Cab?
@nostrom0 Chicken Dinner!
@nostrom0 Well done!
Beep … Incorrect!
Huneeus family, father and son are Agustin.
"Agustin Huneeus has been discovering great vineyards of the world throughout a career in wine spanning five decades and 15 countries.
Agustin and wife Valeria founded the Quintessa estate in the renowned Rutherford District of Napa Valley in 1990 and after years of running global wine companies, established a family portfolio of wines that represent the finest vineyard estates, appellations and wines in both North and South America.
In addition to the Quintessa estate, Agustin’s current vineyard and winery projects include Faust Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon and Illumination Napa Valley Sauvignon Blanc."
Under the wire!
Dang! My bad. It was Sivas.
@MarkDaSpark you owe me a bottle!
@nostrom0
/giphy belly-laugh
@MarkDaSpark Who painted that on you?
@nostrom0, you must have forgotten that I took that picture of you at the MadWino’s place!
@MarkDaSpark That giphy is obscene. I need to post again so it vanishes
@MarkDaSpark And now it’s gone for me
@klezman, sadly, it’s still there!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark This may even top Gus for memory etchment.
@klezman @rjquillin; close, but Gus made me bleach my eyes AND poke them out!
Ok, @WineDavid49, time’s approaching for the next clue. Midnight (or 9PM Pacific) is fast approaching.
@WineDavid49, Seconded
@Winedavid49 Third
@Winedavid49 I know this is early, but just sending a reminder.
@jml326 @Winedavid49 I second that emotion.
@Winedavid49 come on Dave you started strong
@jml326 @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
Three hours to go…
@pseudogourmet98 @rjquillin come join in
Ok, northwest Company family ship.
@Winedavid49 https://shop.unionwinecompany.com/collections/underwood/products/underwood-in-a-can-pinot-gris
Forest supply company
@Winedavid49 Avalon Winery?
Westmont?
Think middle
@Winedavid49 Middleton, i.e. Clayhouse or Cadaretta
@Winedavid49 Show Pony??? I thought I heard Middleton sold ayhouse brand, maybe it was just a winemaker change. Can’t remember.
@trifecta Belated congrats!
Is it clue time yet???
85 ?
@Winedavid49 is Barry Sterling 85?
Iron horse Chardonnay
Not much of a clue! Lindemans Bin 85 Pinot Grigio?
How old is Pedroncelli?
@ScottW58 90
Parducci ?
@ScottW58 Winner!
@ScottW58 U da’ man!
@ScottW58 impressive!
@ScottW58 @Winedavid49 Still think it outta be good at least for a 4-pack.
@Winedavid49
and yes I agree with rjq on me getting a free 4 pack 
I had the advantage of seeing your post before you edited it
@ScottW58 I’m confused…what did WD give away?
And I guess it’s a bit comforting that if I were given the task of coming up with a clue the first thing I thought of was “85”
@klezman
Something like “85 years must be doing something right” iirc
Arnie Esterer of Markko Vineyards in Conneaut, OH is 85 but I know that’s not it. Just got me to thinking about the time Clark Smith stopped in Cleveland while doing an Amtrak book tour for Postmodern Winemaking. He did a private tasting for us (which included his Roman Reserve Cab Franc a full 2 years before it was released) then we hung out with him again the following day as he visited Arnie at Markko Vineyards. Arnie and his late partner were disciples of Dr. Konstantin Frank who first brought vinifera grapes to New York’s Finger Lakes in the 1950s or 60s. After tasting with Arnie for awhile, we all trekked over to M Cellars to visit with Ohio’s vinifera torch-bearer Matt Meineke. The winery was closed to the public that day so we had the place to ourselves to taste most of the wines, including barrel samples. Clark also played some guitar and sang for us while Arnie hummed along. Good times…
@chipgreen I’m in Pittsburgh and not far from these, sounds like something I need to check out as soon as the weather improves!
Hey! It’s Thursday night, and we’ve got under a half hour till a new offer.
@winedavid49
Where’s that clue?
Priming the clue factory early…
@winedavid49
Clue for tonight? Highly sought after vineyards. the way Sylvester would have wanted.
@Winedavid49 Le Vigne?
@Winedavid49 Glad I was wrong. Thanks for bringing J. Dusi back into the fold, it’s been awhile!
Black Cat would be coup, but seems unlikely. Maybe EMH? Both are pricey…
@merrybill Black Cat sells out just about everything every year. I think EMH Black Cat, after a Berserker Day sale, could already be low on inventory. Gotta be some other connection to Sylvester.
@jmdavidson1 Well I didn’t want to go towards the only other Sylvester I could think of, but maybe a winery with Rocky in its name, like Rocky Pond or - surprise - Rocky Marciano Winery is the answer.
@jmdavidson1 @merrybill or maybe its tweetie bird related?
@merrybill VinRoc
It’s really only ~30 minutes to another offer…
I don’t know how @winedavid49 did it on a daily basis.
… and clue?
ok, sorry for missing the last clue. no excuse, but been busy! Better to burn out than it is to rust, eh?
@Winedavid49 Just thinking out loud here.
Hey hey, my my… Neil Young… Young’s Vineyard?
@Winedavid49 I see there’s also a Neil Family Vineyards out there.
(What I don’t know about California could fill volumes.)
@ccamden @Winedavid49 Neal Family Vineyards
I almost think I remember seeing some of those on ww.
@rjquillin I remember it from Underground Cellar, scored a magnum of 2005 Neal Family Cab for $80 and it was delicious!
I meant to post, but I whispered to WD by mistake! What’s the protocol in such instances? I’m going with a block quote.
because i’m still in love with you…
@Winedavid49 Harvest Moon
@chipgreen Gotta be. Exciting!
@InFrom I’m guessing it still won’t ship to Ohio, so… enjoy!
@chipgreen Oh, that stinks! Or OH, that stinks!
Hoping for some Late Harvest.
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 Wonderful album, pretty good juice too…
@InFrom Thankfully I still have a few of those from when HM did ship to Ohio. Good stuff!
I don’t want to listen to Neil Young, I have to.
@Winedavid49 Long may you run!
@Winedavid49 Great, I had to play the harvest album just to get the song out of my head. Now I want to listen to harvest moon…
@Winedavid49
I can haz mor Little Vineyards?
@TechnoViking @Winedavid49
But probably TV’s
Clue for tonight? Party venue-ish.
@Winedavid49 Club? Ballroom? Tent? Hall?
But what about the “-ish”?
Hall makes wine
@klezman Yeah, it’s the ish that’s intriguing. Maybe he means the launch party venue?
@InFrom @klezman or next to launch party venue.
@CorTot @InFrom Well, what’s the party venue?
In Sonoma proper you’ve got Ty Caton, R2, etc.
@Winedavid49
Benziger Family Winery ?
same owners. close proximity to party venue.
@Winedavid49 Pedroncelli?
@Winedavid49 Oops, I was on “woot time”
Too vague? i’m trying…
@Winedavid49 Some are just better than others at figuring out these sort of riddles! Keep it up!
Getting a workout in tomorrow. working on all phases.
Harvest Moon RandyZin Blend 2013
@jml326 What led you to that answer?
Oh – the phases?
@InFrom harvest moon is a phase of the full moon. Randy as in getting Randy as in sexual work out… really I picked the wine they listed as a Valentine’s special.
/giphy austin powers randy
@Winedavid49
St. Julian Winery mix?
@jml326 Good points. Not to mention that Randy telegraphed a future Zin deal in his comments the other day.
@Winedavid49
Scott Harvey Mountain Selection Zinfandel
Still trying to figure out clue.
@MarkDaSpark Ah, he probably confused Scott and Randy. I hear it happens to them all the time.
@InFrom @jml326 you complete me
actually the last clue i gave was for tonight’s offer. oops.
@Winedavid49
So Harvest Moon RandyZin Blend 2013.
What do I win?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
/giphy mother fudger
@Winedavid49 how about some extra Casemates stickers to pass around to my Maryland friends?
@Winedavid49 as my son’s pre k teacher would say
/giphy you’re full of soup
@Winedavid49 Some Ty Caton Upper Bench wines?
@jml326
/giphy jealousy is ugly
@MarkDaSpark
/giphy imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Counting down
29
how about this for tonight’s wine: sort of Gerry Rafferty…
@Winedavid49
Baker Lane?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 I hear wailing saxophones now…
@InFrom @Winedavid49 Yeah. I may not be able to sleep now!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Baker Street, no?
@rjquillin Yes! That’s the name of the song. But the game is, what’s the name of the winery?
@InFrom poor timing to have left my camera, with pics of rat wines, at work. The last two were at the party; likely this as well, and I have zero memory.
We’ll know shortly.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Bingo!
I recall seeing that now.
@Twich22 I don’t get how a clue of Gerry Rafferty leads you to Middleton.
@InFrom @Twich22
Stuck in the Middle with You…Gerry Rafferty was one of the founding members of Stealers Wheels.
@karenhynes @Twich22 aha! A little more obscure, clue-wise, than “Baker Street”, but obscurity has never deterred WD. Thanks for the light bulb.
Hah, yes. I just listened to it again. All time classic.
@Winedavid49 Sort of, but not quite?
Now I’ve got an ear worm.
Congrats to you and Anthony. Seems you needed to wring a few more cases out of him.
Those were the first bottles I went for at the party!
@Winedavid49 is it middleton again?
how about this for a clue:
Aussie shipwreck.
@Winedavid49 Flying Cloud by Stephen Ross?
Clue? Hmm. Could it be a 2014 Wine Smith Grenache? Ok, who did not get the memo for the next offer, you or Wine Smith?
wine smith.
@Winedavid49 check your whisper
it is not wine smith.
@Winedavid49 What do you want???
ok, trying not to bugger this clue up.
clue: Favorite Taxi actor.
@Winedavid49 Deep Seas mixed case? But I’ll go with deep seas merlot.
@Winedavid49
Judd’s Hill?
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 that’s what I was thinking as well. Winemaker was at the launch party… Judd Hirsch… Sounds like a ding ding Chip!
@winedavid49
Dang, it’s nearly upon us again; that time for a clue…
@winedavid49 @rjquillin tic toc
@rjquillin Maybe lab rats should step up and give a clue? I was very tempted to last night.
i’m blaming it on March Madness. ok Rjquillin, i’m whispering you with some help on tonight’s offer.
@Winedavid49 replied
@Winedavid49 Many of us already know the answer to this one!
@klezman @Winedavid49 Yeah, but you need to sort out the linkage.
taH pagh, taHbe
@notwinesmith Educated Guess?
WD wanted me to post this one.
What might Freddie and Vera drink while listening to Madonna?
@rjquillin
Don’t we all kinda know what tonight’s offer is?
@karenhynes likely only those on the mailing list.
We had some active debate on the clue however.
@rjquillin
If it’s not Winesmith 2014 Grenache, then Senses?
@rjquillin
Senses Winery
@MarkDaSpark @rjquillin
)
Senses seems to be mailing list only for their distribution. I’ve not heard of them. Good?
(I just joined the mailing list, just in case
@karenhynes
Don’t know. But Max Theriot is co-owner, and was half brother to Freddie on Bates series. And they drank Senses on the show.
Looks like WD was right. How about if we change it to
What might Norman and Norma drink in their vineyard while listening to Madonna?
@rjquillin
I’m sticking with WineSmith 2014 Grenache - Santa Cruz Mountains - Bates Ranch
@karenhynes Near Madonna mountain, and Clark likes music with his wines.
@rjquillin
I might have suggested Superman’s alter ego, but that was probably too easy.
all right. i’m gonna start working on the next clue starting early a.m. stand by…
@Winedavid49 Yeah, good call, you were right.
This one was a fail.
@Winedavid49
/giphy we’re waiting
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Yeah, well, at least there was (some sort of) a clue for the WineSmith…
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
I guess he meant for Friday’s offer?
@Winedavid49
Talked to Kathy Joseph about Casemates, feel free to “whisper” your preferred contact info so that I can forward it to her, thanks.
ok, writers block over with (for now). Next clue:
Goddess of harvest is one part of his/her bio.
@Winedavid49
Benziger Family Winery?
Because VDDD.
@Winedavid49
Please see the post above yours, re: Kathy Joseph
El Jefe! Bring on the Twisted Oak!
@danandlisa
You might be right!
@Winedavid49 Bacchus? Is the Ty Caton Bacchus Red making a return?
@danandlisa I don’t follow the links here…
@Winedavid49 Tess Wine?
@danandlisa
I’m with danandlisa. El Jefe!
@danandlisa @karenhynes
Agree it’s TO! and it’s the Spaniard etc!
@danandlisa @karenhynes @ScottW58
Guess I should have read my email!
You guys are good!
Paul Dolan?
@MarkDaSpark sure amigo, first repeat Winery.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Harvest Moon RandyZin Blend 2013
@jml326 @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 If so, it’s the only HM Zin I can resist!
@Winedavid49
Hmmmm … Amigo.
Scott Harvey mixed reds? For his birthday?
@Winedavid49
Arrgh. Should have gone with Zaca Mesa.
Clue? Petticote
@Winedavid49 Is that the same or different from a petticoat?
Pomar Junction in Paso
I meant petticoat …
@Winedavid49 That’s a common slip…
@InFrom @Winedavid49 Groan
@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Kinky boots
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49 At first I thought that was the clue and was going to suggest True Grit.
@Winedavid49 We all know that you have spelling issues!
You’re welcome!
@ScottW58 We bow to your powers…
Clue? Current Diet DR Pepper character.
Vino salida wine “Lil’ Sweet”
@Winedavid49 I’ll hold out hope for a Justin.
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
I think it is Justin wine. Lil Sweet is Justin from American Idol.
@Winedavid49 What is the connection of DP to Pavi?
@Winedavid49
“Dolcetto apparently means “little sweet one” in Italian”.
Good for what wine, but not good for which winery!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Si, si.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
The clues always seem to make sense after the offer is posted. I suck at this!
WOW !
That’s good work fellas ( ladies included)
@Winedavid49 Gonna give us another good one?
Clue? Use all senses.
@Winedavid49 Looks like this is going to be one we might figure out after rollover.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
@rjquillin Or maybe not.
@Winedavid49
I guessed this last time.
Senses Wine
@Winedavid49
Should have been “Use all but 2 senses”!!
Clue?
Is that you Sammy??
@Winedavid49
(Sammy) Davis (Jr) Family Vineyards?
@karenhynes Davis would be an amazing offer even for the non-pinot people. Sammy Cahn…Conn Valley. (no way). Samuel L Jackson…Kendall-Jackson winery.
Willamette Valley Vineyards
nice tries!
Davis Family Vineyards out of Healdsburg would be out of this world! They treated a bunch of us Wooters sooo well when Texacaliali took us there and they have been winning a lot of awards lately.
Nope. Think appearance!
@Winedavid49 like this?
@jml326 @Winedavid49
@Winedavid49
d’Arenberg Winery?
Sammy Davis Jr = Candyman = Willy Wonka
d’Arenberg Winery called Willy Wonka’s Wine factory.
I knew about the tequila, but I had no idea of his passion for wine!
http://www.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/Wine-Talk-Sammy-Hagar_3443
Resembles Sammy, K?
@Winedavid49
Oh, Sammy!
OK, I give up. How does the clue associate with Charles Smith?
Charles Smith has been called everything from the Wildman of Walla Walla to Winemaker of the Year (2009 Food and Wine Magazine & 2010 Seattle Magazine). Looking more like rock star Sammy Hagar of Van Halen fame, than the stereotypical winemaker, Charles is a rock star in the winemaking world.
Next time, could you get some Davis PN?
@jmdavidson1
Googled Charles Smith…he does kinda resemble Sammy Hagar. @winedavid49 was that what you were going for?
@jmdavidson1
As WD said, resembles Sammy H.
@jmdavidson1
If WD can swing some Davis Pinot…I’m in!
Manischewitz!!!
next clue? it ain’t no Hetch Hetchy.
@Winedavid49
Quady? It’s been awhile…
Nah, come on tap that reservoir of knowledge.
Andrew Murray 2014 ESPÉRANCE RED BLEND
@Winedavid49 Now I get it
Lake Somona is indeed a reservoir. I took a group of grad students canoe tripping there (sort of…no portage opportunities).
@klezman atta boy!
@klezman @Winedavid49 well done indeed
Isn’t it about time for some vague clue, which I will never understand?
Clue?
Hardy- Ross
@Winedavid49 Ok, tie that clue to Laurel Glen…
@Winedavid49
I actually almost guessed this. Still have the site open on another tab. I thought the price-point was too high though.
@Winedavid49 Ross Andrew? Syrah? CS? Merlot?
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
The “Hardy” took my mind directly to Laurel and Hardy. A quick search for “Laurel winery” took me to Laurel Glen, Laurel Ridge, and one other I can’t recall. The I related the “Ross” to Glengarry Glen Ross. Good grief…are WD’s clues starting to make sense to me?
@karenhynes @rjquillin haha, good one!! Sorry for the late entrance. Blame it on basketball
@karenhynes
Clues are for closers!
Eric Ross would be interesting; highly unlikely.
Stephen Ross perhaps a bit less so, but still unlikely.
Fort Ross would be hardy.
May as well be Madonna…
another clue? not much today, but i do appreciate your ah… persistence.
@Winedavid49
True Grit by Parducci
@MarkDaSpark if at first…
@Winedavid49
Fine.
Reynolds Family Winery
Persistence Vineyard -
dust yourself off!
@Winedavid49
Inglenook? Rutherford, and Coppola tries again?
@MarkDaSpark
Well you have guessed half of California wine country, what else you got
@ScottW58,
Hardly half, with only 3 guesses! At least I was trying unlike some nudniks.
Name of the wine, not the winery*
@Winedavid49
Now you tell us!
This is a great, if frustrating, thread.
Kept a close eye on that clue but couldn’t see the answer.
Clue? NW urban.
Can’t be Randy Dunn… (my wallet!)
Enzo winery
First thing that popped into my little head was Cavatappi
J Bookwalter.
@hscottk Good guess. Probably right. Hoping it’s something different though. And hopefully not something precept owned.
OK, I don’t understand any of these from NW urban. J Bookwalter at least I somewhat get, them being a WA winery.
@klezman Enso is in Portland and call themselves an urban winery, so a good guess. Enzo is out of Napa I believe though.
Close but no cigar poindexter !
I guess it could be Charles Smith again?
@ScottW58 That would have been my guess if we hadn’t already had a recent offer.
not quite Bouregard.
If it’s Bonny Doon or a California winery I call shenanigans
Clue? Mick’s first.
@Winedavid49
2005 M by Michael Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon
Naw, didn’t think so…
Hey WD, did you see that 1869 post in deals?
@Winedavid49
Hunt Cellers
Or more likely Hunt Country Vineyards
Mick Jagger’s eldest child: Karis Hunt Jagger
@Winedavid49
Lucas & Lewellen
@Winedavid49
St. Francis Winery & Vineyards ?
Mick Foley’s oldest is Dewey Francis …
Boyd Family Vineyards (Jenny Boyd-Mick Fleetwood’s first wife)?
@karenhynes This sounds more like WD’s clue-making style…
@karenhynes @klezman But we’ve not seen a Hunt for awhile, and they have been offered before on WW.
Has Boyd?
A pricey offering it would likely be.
@klezman @rjquillin
I don’t recall ever seeing Boyd before. I thought about Hunt, too, but WD’s clues almost always lead me down a musical oath for some reason…
@karenhynes @rjquillin Oh yeah, I missed Sparky’s rationale for Hunt Country. Seems quite likely as well. Mixed icewine and reds ftw!
@karenhynes @klezman Hunt has had some pretty tempting email offers lately too…
@karenhynes @klezman @rjquillin
Hunt Cellers (Paso) has a wine called Rhapsody. So that’s why I thought of them, but Hunt’s been up before (on WW), and they are due.
But WD hasn’t chimed in yet on any guesses yet.
@karenhynes
Close, but wrong Mick!
@MarkDaSpark
Soooo close!!
Generally, I prefer Fleetwood Mac to the Stones (don’t hate me).
@karenhynes
Ditto! But they both have great songs!
@MarkDaSpark
Indeed!
Ah, Mick Jagger’s 1st wife, Bianca!
@MarkDaSpark thought y’all would get that one!
Clue? Wallace and Gromit.
@Winedavid49
Hmmm…Clayhouse? Or is that too obvious?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Ooh, that’s good! Because I couldn’t come up with a winery called Claymation.
@InFrom @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Clayhouse obviously makes sense.
My first thought was cheese and Rube-Goldberg devices. Just goes to show you how different people react
@InFrom @karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49 Library Show Pony??? One can only hope. Sad Clayhouse is no longer Middleton owned.
@InFrom @karenhynes @klezman @trifecta @Winedavid49
Why is that?
@rjquillin
Sold Oct. 2016.
Biz Journal article
@MarkDaSpark @rjquillin
That is just a marketing and distribution deal.
From the article;
“The Vintage Wine Estates team will take on all national sales and marketing responsibilities for the two brands effective immediately. The current winemakers for both Clayhouse and Buried Cane will continue to make the wines in the traditional style and flavor profile that have garnered critical acclaim.”
Clue? Half more than Charlie’s.
@Winedavid49
Charlie = Chuck
Two Buck Chuck = Three
That’s where the 3 comes from.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I thought it was Two and a Half Men, plus a half = three. Charlie Sheen/Harper.
Either way, we both get to 3!
I would never have gotten to this particular wine though.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 And was thinking Charlie’s Angels, so more than half (3) would be 2. Possibly Two Hands or Twomey.
Three Wine Men - bringing you gold, frankincense and merlot for over 2,000 years.
And tonight’s clue that I will never figure out?
@jmdavidson1 2014 Bogle Vineyards Phantom
for the clue that wasn’t
@winedavid49
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49 The vintage was correct…
Clue? who said Elvis is dead? About to see another sighting.
@Winedavid49
Red Zepplin by Stillman
Better yet, some of his Black Zepplin PS!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Seems too easy. Not WD49’s style.
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
Not at all. Easy would be Graceland Cellars Elvis wine
But you would know about Swilly and Zepplin from WW. Not everyone might know. But since WD’s been quiet, it might not be Swilly.
@Winedavid49
Maybe a return (from WW days) of Coppo Italian Barolo? (Or Oriel, they had 2 offerings.)
Barolo is one of the wines known as the “King of Wines”, with Tokaji aszu also known as “The king of wines and the wine of kings.”
@jmdavidson1
I went too far back! Should have looked at previous Casemates offers!
Hmmmmm…there’s also the possibility of the “other” Elvis (Costello).
I know he’s had concerts at a few CA wineries:
Roadhouse Winery
The Mountain Winery
Chateau Ste Michelle
He also had a song “Down Among the Wines and Spirits” which included this lyric:
“Bubbles escaping from him from the rim of a glass of grape”.
WD did recently mention that there may be some bubbles in our future…
Possibilities?
Iron Horse
Gruet
@karenhynes
I thought of him too, but WD used the Dead reference, which would apply to Elvis Presley, not EC.
@MarkDaSpark
Agreed, but his clues don’t always make sense.
@karenhynes
That’s what keeps it interesting, right…?
@karenhynes
You called the Gruet!
You must have scared WD!
@MarkDaSpark
I’m very scary…and can apparently see into the future!
Time to run off and buy some lottery tickets!
@MarkDaSpark One can never be too scary…
@WineDavid49
This is a toughy, not a widely known brand, time to toughen up and grab the …
@Winedavid49
McPrice Myers?
@Winedavid49
Red Bull by the horns?
@Winedavid49
Almost thought Egri Bikavér, but reaching into the WW Wayback machine (ok, last year, but still… )
Two Horns Red Blend by Winston Winery. 2013 or 2014 this time?
@Winedavid49 @karenhynes @InFrom
/giphy take-a-bow
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Well done!
@MarkDaSpark
Congrats on being nearly dead on!
So … clues for every other offer?
@MarkDaSpark This is still, by far, the best we’ve ever had.
Clue? Pulitzer?
@Winedavid49 Obscure, yet timely. Well done!
Tonight’s wine? Here’s a clue: dinasour spot.
@Winedavid49 Is there a Jurassic winery?
@klezman @Winedavid49
Actually, there is a Jurassic Park Vineyard in Santa Ynez.
La Brea makes a Tar Pit wine?
@rjquillin Nice call. Although the geologists and paleontologists I know hate it when people make that mistake.
@klezman Did I spell it wrong or something?
@rjquillin No…the tar pits are on the order of a few tens of thousands of years old. Younger than the dinosaurs by several tens of millions of years. Lots of sabre-toothed cats, however. (But don’t call them tigers either.)
@klezman @rjquillin I can’t count that high. Does not compute.
Haven’t got it yet.
Aka old
@Winedavid49
I could wish for some Wellington old vine, but I’ll go with some Scott Harvey zin, until I think of something better…
@rjquillin Are you saying he’s a dinosaur? Hmm, interesting clue and assumption.
@jmdavidson1 Me, Scott or Peter? Nope.
I was just looking at woot bottles with ‘old’ and throwing a dart.
But there are a few other choices that fit that criteria as well.
Perhaps some Inspiration Vineyards
@Winedavid49 Does it have something to do with sour as in “dinasour” as you wrote above or is that just one of your misspellings???
@bahwm damn, misspelling!
Could it be a cider?
next wine? here’s a clue: formerly called what we call home is called.
@Winedavid49
This make my head hurt.
@Winedavid49 abode, adobe, another Clayhouse?
@Winedavid49 mad housewife wine?
Aka sonoma
@Winedavid49
Valley of the Moon
@Winedavid49 Valley of the Moon winery
@Winedavid49 Something about the Miwok?
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49 oh, that makes more sense. Or Harvest Moon, then?
@Winedavid49 Healdsburg Ranches?
There must be something in the water in Chicago tonight…
Tonight’s wine? A clue from bro George: at the forum 1977.
King estate or Zeppelin wine? Don’t ask why
Actually both answers are right.
STILLMAN BROWN in the house!
@Winedavid49 Let the show begin! Glad to see him back in the fold. Gotta prepare the cc.
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
No IL???
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 So no need to hide the cc. What the…
@Winedavid49
I was just telling someone today that I was at that concert
@ScottW58 @Winedavid49 I was just telling someone yesterday that I was at that concert! Err, the one in Cleveland, that is.
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
Ha! Nice Chip although that makes you as old as me
@ScottW58 Depends how old you were at the time.
what wine tonight? Here’s a clue: Katniss Peak
@Winedavid49
Archery Summit?
@karenhynes dayam!
@Winedavid49
I’m in your head WD!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 How do you do this???
@karenhynes I don’t (regularly) drink PN. What’s your take on this?
@jmdavidson1
I need to do some reading. I’m not familiar with them, personally.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
I’m very good with the Googling.
@karenhynes Thanks. The flavor profile looks interesting. You going to the Chappellet wine pairing dinner next Wednesday in LaGrange? (see Mainstreet.com)
@jmdavidson1
I wish I could. Work has been pretty crazy and it’s too hard to reliably get anywhere on a weeknight. It’s one I seriously thought about though. I just don’t want to book it and then end up being late and missing half.
I predict that today’s clue will potentially include:
Involving winemaker, vintage, and varietal.
@MarkDaSpark Rat?
@MarkDaSpark
I know!!! I know!!!
@rjquillin
No. Email from Winemaker. They really spoil it when they send them out early.
@MarkDaSpark likely from a known and respected winemaker/producer residing in some inland hills?
@karenhynes The bigger question is “Are you in?” And, have you tried the Grenache blanc de noir?
@jmdavidson1
I’m undecided. If I’m in, I probably only want a few. I do have some of the bubbles, but have not yet tried. You?
no need for a clue tonight!
@Winedavid49
I was hoping for someone to guess the vintage & varietal.
@Winedavid49 But what about tonight?!
/youtube tic toc
Here’s one: named in both Star Trek and the show Santuary.
@Winedavid49
Hope Estate Shiraz Ripper Creek (2012?) Western Australia seems more likely ($24) price-wise than 2012 Booker Vineyard The Ripper Grenache Paso Robles ($65).
But then WD may have worked his magic on Booker.
@Winedavid49
This was hoinv to be my next guess, but not now!
@Winedavid49
Macauley Vineyard, probably Zin or PN. Sadly, they only make about 75 cases of PS.
Her son Mac Watson is the current proprietor. Winemaker is his childhood friend Kirk Venge. Kirk is son of Nils, and helped create Venge Vineyard.
Kirk has been on WW before, as winemaker for B Cellers in 2011. Nils has been on as Saddleback Cellers.
(Moved from below. Chrome hiccupped on using a smiley.)
@Winedavid49
Silly me. Assuming you meant actual characters!
Praxis (Klingon) was a moon of Qo’noS. (ST)
Praxis is a large city located in Hollow Earth. (Sanctuary)
And for you sports fans, Similar sounding to a famous Alan iverson rant.
@MarkDaSpark nice try. Wrong planet
@Winedavid49
Yea, yea. Chrome hiccupped.
2015 Hansen Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon ($18)?
(Helen Magnus on Sanctuary and Magnus Hansen (was a Human exobiologist and the father of the Human female who became Seven of Nine) on ST:VOY.
@Winedavid49 iverson: “we ain’t talking about games… “
@Winedavid49
Practice =/= Magnus??
@Winedavid49
Where’s @karenhynes when you need her?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Hahaha! I had a migraine and went to bed early.
Truthfully, I would never have guessed from those clues. I’ll try to be back in the game Tuesday evening!
Time’s up!
And we all failed.
We talking about Praxis !
@Winedavid49
Silly me. Assuming you meant actual characters!
Praxis (Klingon) was a moon of Qo’noS. (ST)
Praxis is a large city located in Hollow Earth. (Sanctuary)
Blushing to identify the right vehicle for a clue.
@Winedavid49
First guess:
Carr Winery, Pinot Noir Rosé.
@karenhynes keep trying !
@Winedavid49
Am I the only one playing tonight?
Adobe Road?
@Winedavid49
Red Zepplin?
@Winedavid49
2016 Red Truck Rose of Pinot Noir?
@Winedavid49
…or Red Car Rose of Pinot?
@Winedavid49 Vin Gris de Cigare?
@Winedavid49
Soooo close!!!
Trattore wines
Sorry for the delay, blame it on the warriors. Clue? Another amazing offer from up that way.
@Winedavid49
Well, that narrows it down.
@Winedavid49
OK, my one completely off the wall guess will be Miner Family Oracle…though you’d have to have gotten a screaming deal on it. If it screams loudly enough, I could be persuaded.
(Golden State plays at the Oracle Arena)
@Winedavid49
It’s almost like a weekend night so I can stay up late and play. How about a clue?
@pseudogourmet98 It’s like Final Jeopardy, where I hear the music but there is no answer.
Sorry. Missed this one. We are trying to figure out a way to get the rats to help us with the clue. Stay tuned.
Clue for tonight? i know, i know, " i hate waiting".
@Winedavid49
First guess: Virtue Wines
@Winedavid49
Seconds Guess: Twisted Oak
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 The rational?
@jmdavidson1
Clue: “i hate waiting”
So my first guess, Virtue Wines, was a fairly quick jump form the clue to “patience” to “patience is a virtue” to "Virtue Wines.
I was OK with that guess until i thought to myself “that’s not really WD’s style”.
So…I literally Googled “I hate waiting” and the first thing that came up was:
Princess Bride! Aaaahhhh…much more WD’s style!!! This led directly to “Inigo Montoya” to “the Spaniard” to “Twisted Oak”.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes
That’s what I thought, which is why I posted the YouTube link for “I hate waiting” in WD’s response (about you being in his brain).
Excellent work!
Karenhynes, you are in my brain!
@Winedavid49
Actually, that was kinda easy …
I hate waiting
Clue for tonight’s wine?
Do cattle and wine mix?
@Winedavid49
Just so it’s not only @karenhynes guessing …
Purple Cowboy
@Winedavid49
2nd guess (and real one!)
Galante Vineyards
They’ve been on WW before … I forgot I was First Sucker on their “Olive Hill” Petite Sirah 2 pack offer!
Please WD, tell me their PS is back!
Of course, it was back in 2011 for their 2009 Galante PS Offer
@Winedavid49 Two Horns?
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/14/loaded-livestock-french-farmers-serve-cows-two-bottles-of-wine-per-day/
http://a.co/aoSVW3s
@Winedavid49
Ancient Peaks Winery?
@chipgreen Is that French oak?
second clue: Marcia Marcia Marcia!
@Winedavid49 Brady Vineyard zinfandel
@jml326 @Winedavid49
Ooooh…good one!!
@Winedavid49 maybe Horse & Plow winery?
@Winedavid49 It all makes sense now. I could have gotten this one if you’d have combined the cattle clue with a boxing reference!
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
It does?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 The cattle roaming around the winery grounds… podcast from Marcia Kunde.
@chipgreen @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 And boxing? Or do I have to listen to the podcast for that, too?
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Hehe, no… they have a boxing ring on the property that was used in the movie Bottle Shock, about half of which was filmed at Kunde, IIRC.
Marcia Kunde Michelson. They are deep into cattle as well.
@Winedavid49
I dug, and found their wedding page which tells about Hill House and cattle.
/giphy well-we’re-waiting
Salt and … sister.
@Winedavid49
McBride Sisters Wines
@Winedavid49
Two Sisters by Foley 2 pack (Chardonnay and Pinot Noir)
nice quick try. Pepper’s second winery.
@Winedavid49
Ah … Pepper Bridge Winery.
Makes sense now.
/giphy tricky-sneaky
/giphy tick-tock
Sounds a little like an Irish Birdhouse
@Winedavid49
Acorn Wines’ 2013 Medley, Alegría Vineyards?
@Winedavid49
Songbird Lyrical Red, Columbia Valley?
@Winedavid49
OMG…good one! I’m cracking up here!
@Winedavid49
O’Nesta. … ha, ha
Clue for tonight’s wine? i don’t know, i’m pretty nonplussed by it.
meh.
@Winedavid49 the first mystery case?
Does John Cleese now own a vineyard or winery?
/youtube Wine for the Confused
@Winedavid49 I would guess Conundrum but that kind of mega-production does not fit the WW/CM model. Hmmm…
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
That was my first thought, too.
Or perhaps some Quandary.
@Winedavid49 I think @mother has it right. A meh. wine for summer seems nice.
@mother perfect!
@klezman @mother @Winedavid49 Well done!
@chipgreen @klezman @Winedavid49
/giphy devil horns
It’s a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma!
And here I thought there would a clue by now !
@WineDavid49 slacking off.
A clue? Strangers Things weapon
@Winedavid49
Eleven Winery? (11 kinda is a weapon)
Or Hooper Creek Winery (11’s last name)? Purchased last year by Hoopes Family Vineyard and Winery. So maybe selling off stock.
@Winedavid49 a child’s weapon
@Winedavid49
A return of Robert Craig Howell Mtn Merlot?
A) Mike Wheeler used a candlestick
There’s a candlestick in Clue (kid’s game)
C) Candlestick Ridge Vineyards provides grapes to both Duckhorn and Robert Craig. (Or used to do so for Duckhorn.)
D) Robert Craig has been on WW, but not for a while
E) RC uses CRV in their Howell Mtn Merlot.
However, it’s pricy at $90.
@Winedavid49
Or Domimo IV (Oregon)'s 2012 Tempranillo Blend “Technicolor Bat”?
Since they used a spiked bat.
@Winedavid49
Doh!
Slingshot North Coast Cab 2015 (been up on WW).
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Said Fred!
@MarkDaSpark Good work!
Well, 2016 anyways …
/giphy winning
Clue?
Alone, listless. Breakfast table in an otherwise empty room…
@Winedavid49 Channing Daughters maybe a mix pack, maybe their molti rosati?
@Winedavid49 Shannon Ridge Old Pearl Pinot?
Trying to think of a Zin with Pearl in the name…
@jml326 you are on the right general trail. and it ain’t Sweet Caroline wine.
@mother Yes, those are the opening lines to Pearl Jam’s Daughter. Or Eddie. Or Vedder. Mt. Veeder wine?
@Winedavid49
Hess Collection Mount Veeder Grüner Veltliner or Chardonnay?
Or their Mt Veeder 19 Block Mountain Cuvee?
Hess Collection is now run by the daughter.
@Winedavid49
So, no Diamonds, but yes Pearls?
@InFrom more like John denver’s Tune.
@InFrom @Winedavid49
From Pearl Jam to Neil Diamond to John Denver. My head is spinning. I’m too sober for this.
J Bell Cellars?
Eddie Vedder allegedly likes Siduri Pinot Noir and Flowers Pinot Noir.
@jmdavidson1
Siduri would be an awesome score!
Eddie also has two daughters…Olivia and Harper. Someone go look into those while I have dinner.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes
I did before, but there weren’t likely ones. Went yo think some more, and forgot.
Robert Craig Mount Veeder Cabernet Sauvignon
@baekdusan Wishful thinking!
@jmdavidson1 More like a challenge not accepted.
Might have been a stretch. My oldest daughter is named anne.
@Winedavid49
I was thinking second daughter (from “Not Sweet Caroline”), thus looking into Harper related ones, but those didn’t look viable.
So was going to look more at your second daughter, but got sidetracked and forgot! Doh!
A bit…
@Winedavid49 No clue is too obscure for Sparky, it would seem. Almost got it!
@Winedavid49 maybe next time use MJ smooth criminal
@InFrom
You haven’t been paying attention. There have been a few clues too obscure for me!
Clue for tonight: happy iced corn
@Winedavid49
I would say Foley Johnson Wines, but their 2014 Zin is $55.
@Winedavid49
Gah!!! Awesome clue but my mind didn’t at all go in that direction.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 clueless on this one…
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
RJQ…read the last entries on previous Pavi offer.
https://casemates.com/forum/topics/pavi-dolcetto#5b1f69f2bea8a00054ba595f
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Tricky, very tricky! Was too obscure (see @InFrom! ) for me until kh’s post!
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 @rjquillin Hiding in plain sight – diabolical!
Clue? sounds like…not a sergeant, not a private…
(and happy father’s day)
@Winedavid49
Coppola?
@karenhynes My brain went lieutenant rather than corporal. You may very well be right, especially given we had a bottle of Sofia Rose in our party pack.
@Winedavid49
You got some 'splaining to do!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Karen was on the right track… sounds like “Corporal”.
@chipgreen @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Are we going with Coquerel sounding like Corporal or Colonel? Or a combo? Maybe I need a big promotion?
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 I’m sticking with corporal since it’s between sergeant and private mentioned in the clue… and yes, you deserve a promotion!
@chipgreen @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
That was my original thinking.
@chipgreen @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Doggerel might have been better for “sounds like”.
@chipgreen @karenhynes @MarkDaSpark it was corporal. i’ll keep trying…
@Winedavid49 No clue tonight?
@jmdavidson1
We could just make random guesses and see how close we get.
@karenhynes 2017 Bundschu Sauvignon Blanc
@jmdavidson1
I could go for some Trentadue Sauv Blanc.
@jmdavidson1 my bad. I suck at delegating. Yesterday was a full day. Met with Lucas Meeker, Janae at Sunce, Randy at harvest moon and the folks at thumbprint and Dry creek Vineyards. Some cool things cooking. Clue you in later…
@Winedavid49 Well, that sounds promising! I regretted not jumping on that first Sunce offer.
@Winedavid49 That’s quite the all-star line up!
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49 @klezman @InFrom Is this for a Casemates Labeled Wine perchance?
Good clues for future offers. Thanks.
Clue for tonight: Cary
@Winedavid49 North by Northwest
@danandlisa @Winedavid49 that would be nice! Moar Rosé, please!
@Winedavid49
Cary Elwes = PB = Moar Twisted Oak
Potty Mouth White & Red?
@MarkDaSpark Speaking of Cary Elwes, there was an entertaining piece on the radio not long ago. I meant to post it for you PB lovers. http://www.cbc.ca/radio/q/friday-sept-29-2017-jack-whitehall-marianne-nicolson-and-more-1.4311184/cary-elwes-reveals-secrets-from-the-set-of-the-princess-bride-1.4311225
@InFrom @Winedavid49 Finally I got one! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
So @WineDavid49, what’s your excuse today?
I’m here ( actually in Mexico City, very cool).
Clue? Bambi home and summer breeze.
@Winedavid49 Is there a winery called windy forest? There’s Windy Oaks and Windy Bay…
@klezman Or a zephyr?
@Winedavid49 Meadowcroft?
@pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
Oooh…good answer!
No seals here.
@Winedavid49 [no Seals] and Croft. I always liked the cover version much better…
Not sure about Bambi’s home… Forest Croft, is there such a winery?
@Winedavid49
Croft Vineyards
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Seals & Crofts did Summer Breeze, back in the days I was a roadie.
Another ding ding ding for Karen?
How do you do this?
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Great memories. One of my favorite songs as a kid. (Still singing it in my head)
@karenhynes @rjquillin I think @pseudogourmet98 just might have it. Croft alone doesn’t get us to Bambi’s home.
@rjquillin You were a roadie?
@InFrom @rjquillin do tell!
@InFrom @pseudogourmet98 @rjquillin
Indeed! Meadowbrook is an excellent guess.
There’s also a Croft Vineyard in the Alexander Valley…
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Yes, sigh, for them, and others, mid 70’s.
@Winedavid49
I think @pseudogourmet98 nailed it. Meadow plus Croft.
Ah, but what wines? Pinot Noir or Cab Sauv? French Columbard or Rosè of Malbec?
One of each?
@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Awesome!
@InFrom @karenhynes @rjquillin
Good work!
@InFrom @karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Darn, I meant to guess Meadowcroft before there was a clue (saw Tom Meadowcroft hanging around one of the poll discussions over the weekend). Good clue tonight and nice work by @pseudogourmet98!
@chipgreen @InFrom @pseudogourmet98 @rjquillin @Winedavid49
I might have gotten there eventually but I got sidetracked listening to Seals and Croft’s songs on YouTube.
So … clue? Someone (@Winedavid49) missed Wednesday’s clue!
Sick?
Sad over Germany’s loss?
@MarkDaSpark
Maybe just with his hands full of leaky Pavi bottles?
yea, sicker than a dog. (and hands full).
Quick Clue: Summer’s Slope
@Winedavid49
Summer Shafer Hillside Select???
@Winedavid49
Atlas Peak?
Here’s a clue: Great McLean song.
@Winedavid49
American Pie!
(Merlot?)
@Winedavid49
Alternate guess…Starry Night Winery?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 We’ve seen the Chard as well, and it is summer…
But I don’t see any activity at all since the '11.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Yeah, they seem to have disappeared.
@karenhynes @rjquillin sold through them all. I should have said subject of a McLean song…
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Vincent Arroyo?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 sigh. Are you two somehow bio-linked?
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
With 1.5 minutes to spare!
@karenhynes @rjquillin good work!
@Winedavid49 tick tock…
@pseudogourmet98
@Winedavid49
Still recovering from the 4th?
yes, but i can muster a clue.
it’s our first pure repeat. who do you think should earn that distinction?
@Winedavid49 well King Estate’s North by Northwest Riesling was a repeat so i doubt we’d see that thrice.
So maybe another mix from Rasmussen
@Winedavid49
Muster? Hmmn
2013 People’s Wine Revolution Petite Sirah?
@Winedavid49 coworkers would love another crack at NxNW Rose.
My guess… Winesmith Cab Franc?
@jml326 that’s right. we did slip that one in. let’s call it the first PLANNED repeat.
@Winedavid49 ok let us get picky and say you had a repeat of Scott Harvey (just a bottle in a mix). Also repeat vinyards of Twisted Oak, WineSmith, OneSta, and Pavi. But you did say pure repeat. Went back and looked I retract Rasmussen as that was a sellout or almost sellout. I’ll go with Broken Earth
@Winedavid49 son of a…
I just wanted to make mother happy.
@Winedavid49 Rasmussen rocks, if a tad slanted to the fruity side of things, I still have nearly two cases.
Clue? it’s no Chinese movement.
@Winedavid49 I would answer, but it wouldn’t be sporting. The winery spilled the beans in an email this evening to previous customers.
@InFrom @Winedavid49 and twitter.
Clue for tonight? Robert Cray song.
@Winedavid49
Smoking Guns Wine?
@Winedavid49
Don’t be afraid of… (Cosentino) The Dark?
@Winedavid49
Highway 12. CAB and/or Red Blend 2016
Right Next Door (to WCC Warehouse)… is Highway 12
Clue?
Now, I’m the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP
I’ve reached the top and had to stop
And that’s what’s botherin’ me
clue? can’t tell you what wine will inherit the earth tomorrow. it’s a mystery.
@Winedavid49
Our friends from Meeker?
@Winedavid49
A Mystery Case from Meeker?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Oh god not Meeker. I can’t spend more money on wine!!! (Except for the forthcoming Noceto offer, that is)
@karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49
Seconded!
@WineDavid49
Tick tock
Still recovering !
Do we really need a clue tonight? Worse kept secret of the RPM tour
@Winedavid49 You get my money twice in a week?! Grumble/yay!
Looking forward to this one!
@Winedavid49
For those who have been away from teh interwebz …
Vino Noceto Casemates Deal:
1 bottle each:
2015 Sangiovese Originale
2015 Riserva Sangiovese
2011 AX-1 Sangiovese
2013 OGP Zinfandel
and 2 bottles of the NV Rosso Blend.
So 6 total bottles, or double it for a case.
Happy, happy days!
Clue? You can be sure this winery is all about process improvement.
@Winedavid49 C.G. Di Arie? But what wines…he’s got a rose special on the website right now.
@Winedavid49
Some more Six Sigma Ranch ?
Diamond Mine Cuvée or Sauvignon Blanc?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Six Sigma is a good guess as well…probably makes more sense than CG di Arie given we haven’t seem Chaim here in ages and ages.
@Winedavid49
A return of MacMurray Estate Vineyards Pinot?
Gallo has a lot of “Process Improvement” statements, and MacMurray is part of their portfolio.
But Six Sigma has been up here, so they seem to be leading. C.G. DiArie would also be nice, sad we missed them on the tour. They were in that same area, but happy with the ones we went to!
Score!
/giphy happy-dance
@MarkDaSpark
Good job!!
Clue for tonight? contact name rhymes with winery name (sort of).
@Winedavid49 Ed at Ped(roncelli)?
@Winedavid49 also can you please respond to my issue with expedited shipping being “sold out” when I ordered the Vino Noceto? Apparently it was a temporary glitch that I and a few others commented on in the offer discussion. I can’t edit the order on my end, but I definitely want the expedited shipping. Thanks.
@Winedavid49 Clark Smith at WineSmith?
@pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49 ooh this sounds legit and I hope it’s right!
@pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
Good job!!!
Is this winery new to either WW or casemates?
Now Winesmith?
@MarkDaSpark Wait, did I miss an email incorrectly announcing that their sale is about to launch?
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark LOL, too true although I never see those anymore because I bought wine direct from Clark’s website one time using PayPal and now they email the address associated with my PP account which I rarely use for anything personal. In fact, I had to chase down a shipment of his sparkling Grenache for ratting purposes one time because I never saw the email that it was coming.
@InFrom
No, just guessing wildly, since no CLUE was forthcoming.
Forgot that he usually sends out an email spilling the beans!
Clue? Bergman and Bogart.
@Winedavid49
Iron Horse!! Or Mumm?
Champagne (and Champagne cocktails) is supposed to be featured in several scenes in Casablanca.
Casablanca & Champagne
@Winedavid49
Hmmm, a Casablanca Valley wine from AW Direct LLC? Viñamar de Casablanca or Veramonte?
Viñamar de Casablanca has sparkling wines, which also ties in with the Champagne in Casablanca.
Hmm, Casablanca, Chateau Bianca?
Something they’ll always have
@Winedavid49 Paris Valley Road!
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Probably, they’ve been on the site that shall not be named before.
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Good call! Sometimes I think WD does these to get hints from us of wines.
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Then keep guessing Iron Horse!
Meeting with Joy this Thursday. tough negotiator!
as far a clue? don’t have anything meaningful or with anything of any gravity to say i’m afraid…
@Winedavid49
Little Vineyards?
@Winedavid49
Domaine Drouhin?
@Winedavid49 Lemelson?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
In your dreams
@danandlisa @Winedavid49
That was my next guess!
Clue for tonight’s offer? talk about buttery !
@Winedavid49 A quick google search shows a Winery called The Creamery located in CA.
@Twich22 @Winedavid49
There’s always La Crema…
…or JaM Cellars…
…or Bread and Butter Wines…
…or any of the hundreds of butter-bomb Chardonnays
@Winedavid49 I am reaching, but I think of cows when I think of butter, so back to Kunde Winery.
/giphy tick-tock
Clue? One of our favorite’z
@Winedavid49
Zaca Mesa Z Blanc White Wine ?
@Winedavid49
Better still, Scott’s InZINerator!
@Winedavid49, @MarkDaSpark
WD did recently meet up with Joy. Could it be some IH bubbles?
(Is the “z” in WD’s original post part of the clue, or an innocent typo?)
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Possibly. But I think WD pops another clue sooner if we haven’t gotten it.
Either way, we win!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Doh! Laura Michael aka Laura Zahtila.
Tricky! Haven’t thought of her maiden name for a long time!
@WineDavid49 … so clues only every other offer?
@MarkDaSpark this last one was a tough one. so do i give you a clue on the term “urgent” ? you know?
@Winedavid49 Obviously you didn’t see the need for a clue as particularly urgent. @MarkDaSpark
@Winedavid49
A “pee-pee” dance would have sufficed.
/giphy pee-pee dance
@WineDavid49
Tick tock
Clue?
What do Tom Hanks and Bob Denver have in common?
@Winedavid49
Marooned!
More Maroon Napa Signature Reserve Meritage or Reserve Cab?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 I think you nailed it.
Castaway’s so Castaway cellars?
clue?
antithesis of Austin
@Winedavid49 Bond Wines, from Napa Wine Project. Would be cool if it could be an ‘007!
@pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49 Huh? Explain?
@klezman @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
Austin Powers, antithesis of James Bond?
@klezman @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
JB also drinks lots of bubbles. Could it finally be time for some Iron Horse (since Bollinger is unlikely)?
@klezman @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
Hopefully IH bubbly. IIRC, I think WD was talking with Joy some weeks back, so I think @karenhynes is correct with that guess.
Spy who shagged me = Spy who loved me
Goldmember = Goldfinger
@karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49
Yes, that was my rationale.
Actually, my original thought when I saw the clue was 2 Buck Chuck, think Steve Austin, the six million dollar man, but I decided that WD would not be offering 2 Buck chuck.
wrong direction.
@Winedavid49
Ah! Great clue…twice!
Clue? sourced from southwind.
@Winedavid49 Hmm, is that a zephyr? I’ll have to look up the names of winds.
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Zephyr is a west wind.
@Winedavid49 well, that was nicely obscure, unless one had read the winery info!
This vineyard is named “Southwind” … the name with which our ship “Cadaretta” was re-christened when it was conscripted for military duty in World War II.
@Winedavid49
This is so weird and frustrating … I could have sworn I posted it was either Dusted Valley or Cadaretta! More Cadaretta because they had been on WW last.
Googled: “southwind vineyard sourced”. Well, first without the “sourced” part.
List showed Cadaretta 5th & 7th, with Dusted Valley 8th. Both listed Southwind Vineyard as a source, looking at their vineyards.
Then googled Cadaretta with Wine.Woot, and 3rd was their 2011 Cadaretta Columbia Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 4-Pack, sold by Middleton Family WInes on WW in Aug 2016.
Dusted Valley was in April on WW, so decided Cadaretta was the more likely (being Middleton and the more recent), so I swear I had posted something about it possibly being DV but more “Cadaretta Columbia Valley Cabernet Sauvignon, by Middleton Family WInes, 2013 or 2014 this time”.
And no one had posted anything yet! I guess I hadn’t hit the “Say it” button on my tablet. And didn’t check again, because I was with my family and was getting dinner. Oh well, C’est la vie.
/youtube
Desert wind winery.
Hopefully this time I remember to press the “Say it” button.
Assuming @WineDavid49 isn’t occupied with basketball.
@MarkDaSpark
Basketball in August is just wrong. Baseball is the appropriate sport for August.
@pseudogourmet98
True. But he does play in a league.
Baseball actuall. Went tic A’s game!
Clue?
Well, this brand was a repeat by the case offer on that previous in named site. But this one is white. “ capiiche” ?
@Winedavid49
Pedroncelli?
@Winedavid49
Parducci … since they had a case offer on the “in named site” and the same wine here (Small Lot Rosé).
Capisce?
Sauv Blanc, Pinot Gris, Viognier, & Chardonnay?
@Winedavid49
Ah, repeat on the SWSNBN (Site Which Shall Not Be Named), not here.
Still, something indicated the guesses were wrong would have been nice, even if I was tied up, for the others.
Clue for tonight’s wine?
4 brothers (like my family).
@Winedavid49 Well, there’s a Four Brothers winery/vineyard. Buoncristiani also prominently talks about four brothers running the place.
Then there’s the Vina Robles Red4 blend, which is PS, Syrah, Grenache, and Mourvedre.
@klezman @Winedavid49
Nice call on the Buoncristiani!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I thought maybe not them just because the list price is so high. But sounds interesting! Too bad a rat bottle didn’t make it to this weekend’s gathering!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Should be worth a rat bottle at least.
Hopefully, the weekend offer will be cheaper!
It is very much on cheaper side. clue? Parent company website has an image of a Frisbee golf “hole”.
@Winedavid49 Castoro Cellars?
@bolligra DAMN SON !
@Winedavid49
Well, if you google “winery frisbee golf”, they do come up first.
I guess @WineDavid49 is still from the Red & White Ball?
Recovering from …
@MarkDaSpark yes, i’m licking my wounds today. clue? missed the cut of the RPM tour. i bet it will sparkle next time.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Is this the long-awaited Iron Horse offer??!!
@Winedavid49 … While wishing it was Iron Horse (except we were in Lodi & Amador, not Sonoma, so they couldn’t “miss” the cut), has to be another.
Andis?
Although Deaver Vineyards has an Almond Sparkling wine from Shenandoah Valley. Grape growers for over 150 years.
But LVVR Sparkling Cellars in Lodi was one of the 10 hottest brands in 2016 and is the (or was at the time) only méthode champenoise producers locally.
Most likely is Deaver Vineyards, since a majority of Zin grapes are “Deaver clones”.
Edit: I would have said Twisted Oak, but they don’t have a sparkling wine. Or is that extraneous?
Shoot. Ok, new order …
@klezman @Winedavid49
Shoot, forgot RPM asked about a Newbie tour in 2019 of Napa/Sonoma. So it probably is Iron Horse!
@MarkDaSpark
Iron Horse also missed the cut by virtue of being too far from Lodi. But we shall see!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
If you wanna ride…
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Err, I mean, If you wanna Ruiten…
There were a few, but TO we tried to visit.
Runquist was another, but I’ll still go with TO
Huh?
Van Ruiten
not heard of them…
Clue? not much to add tonight. but best of luck moving forward, break a leg…
@Winedavid49
Broken Leg Vineyard?
(Utilized by a number of wineries: Vie, Copain, Donkey and Goat, Banshee…)
@Winedavid49
MacMurray Ranch?
Fess Parker?
Coppola?
Of course, there’s always Pursued By Bears (Kyle Mclachlan).
Clue? how about: Merloha
@Winedavid49 Ōlelo Paso Robles Merlot?
@Winedavid49
Hanaiali’i Napa Valley Merlot
(I would put money on this one…)
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
Chip beat me to it!
@chipgreen I never tried that one, but I did get the Olelo.
I wonder how many more Hawaii-themed wines/wineries there are?
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
No, no. Tedeschi Vineyards Maui Blanc wine (Hawaii) from Pineapples!
@chipgreen @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Fail.
what a great event with El Jeffe!
next up clue? Accord
@Winedavid49
Harmony Wynelands Winery - Lodi, CA
@Winedavid49 … you got some 'splaining to do!
Paris Valley Road? Sextant?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 WD’s just thinking about history…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords
Acquiesce Winery - Lodi, CA? I would LOVE to see Susan’s wines here, but her wines seem to fly off of her shelves!
@bahwm Just got the club release email as well; can’t wait!
WD is backpacking, so the WCC team has come up with today’s clue(s)! Check out our Instagram and Facebook stories (@casemateswine) for clues and come back here to place your bets.
ADDITIONALLY… another clue will be posted in the forums this afternoon.
@arianaWCC Don’t do socials.
How about a post here…?
Per your request, @rjquillin, here is this afternoons clue early: Visit this winery for their single vineyard wines in addition to a good bocce ball game…
@arianaWCC Furthermore?
@arianaWCC Pedroncelli?
@arianaWCC I’d say Wellington, except that bocce isn’t exactly boules. Plus Wellington isn’t exactly Wellington.
@arianaWCC
Armida
@arianaWCC too early for a second guess? Hook & Ladder? The additionally/in addition means something, just don’t know where to fit it in.
@arianaWCC
Pedroncelli and Armida are good, but I’ll go with …
Dry Creek Vineyards
Although … Armida usually has PoiZin for Halloween.
@arianaWCC @radiolysis
Good guess!
@arianaWCC @radiolysis Well played.
Moore Family?
Armida
WD not back yet?
@winedavid48 @arianaWCC
@rjquillin Sorry, I haven’t a clue.
@WineDavid49 still slacking off?
Yea, not exactly at the apex here…
@Winedavid49
Rock Bottom Vineyard, Cougar Crest Winery
@pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49 Perfect!
@Winedavid49
More Browne Family Mixed Reds? Their Merlot had grapes from Force Majeure in Red Mountain AVA (just below the summit).
Good guesses
@Winedavid49 Ahem!
Dover Canyon?
…or maybe Uphill Vineyards?
At least i eclipsed the last clue timing.
@Winedavid49 harvest moon!
@Winedavid49 Frey Vineyards?
@radiolysis Good guess (I would have guessed it too!), but …
/youtube ItUECpFi9_s
Clue? Not a well known brand.
Joanie Cunningham and 1007 mountain drive.
@Winedavid49
Moran Manor Vineyards - Calistoga Erin Moran, and address for Wayne Manor
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Good one!
/giphy waiting
Clue? “Help me Obi-Wan…”
@Winedavid49 Deerfield wines.
@Winedavid49
One Hope?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
This is the answer you’re looking for…
@karenhynes @pseudogourmet98
nice work again… Leia
Clue? Big Sky Bee’s??
@Winedavid49
Hidden Legend (mead)?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Well done!
@karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49
…and a good “get”. Too many negative reviews on those Chaucer Meads that used to be offered on WW, so I never bought any despite liking Mead. Also, I have a go-to Ohio brand that is generally enough to satisfy my occasional cravings for Mead - but I have a good feeling about Hidden Legend and look forward to trying these!
Only 15 minutes to go, and nothing…
@winedavid49
Sorry. This was really hard to give a clue. After the fact, any suggestions on what the clue should hVe been?
@Winedavid49
Clue:
Elena Gilbert/Katherine Pierce’s birth country’s festival with masked men. Sadly, not a Gurkha’s knife, but close. And don’t forget the Thracian god of wine, fertility and rebirth!
Breakdown:
Searching on Google using: dionysus, kukeri, winery
Finds: articles on Kukeri wine.
Awfully quiet here. How come nobody’s bugging WD for a clue?
@InFrom
New rules you come up with a clue and they find the wine
@ScottW58 That’s a nice way to do it! OK, here goes: What’s black and white, and red all over?
@ScottW58 Hmm, I may have just described the wine that’s about to end.
@WineDavid49
/giphy tick tock
Daughter And pure prairie league hit
@Winedavid49
Anne Amie?
@karenhynes Right AGAIN. You are amazing. Let’s go to a casino some time.
Not sure about about a clue, but this place is bound to get lively.
@Winedavid49
First thing that comes to mind is something folks might get excited about. Is it finally Iron Horse time?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
That would definitely get me excited!
@Winedavid49 “Live Certified” or something of the sort was something talked about a lot by (I think) Winter’s Hill?
Nah, just last couple times on the other site , it got interesting.
@Winedavid49
The old site is too hard to scroll back through.
@Winedavid49
Corison…always good for some lively discussion.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Nah – interesting, yes, edifying, definitely, but lively, not feeling it. “Cathy’s wine’s great.” “Agreed.” “I need more moolah.” “Agreed.”
@Winedavid49 Clark is most always interesting, but we generally get a note if he’s appearing.
Can’t shed any more sunlight on the subject
@Winedavid49 Sunce!
/giphy I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It
Now those were lively discussions!
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Ooooh! Good guess!
Harvest Moon?
This scares me. Late October is when I told myself to start ordering again. I may risk it if tonight’s offer is too tempting.
At a bar (Earnie’s Tin Bar for those scoring at home) with my over 21 year old kid. Letting our “barriers” down. today.
@Winedavid49
Gard?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 How do you do this?
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
I have no idea
Sure, it’s fall, but when you get a chance to get this wine from this winery…at this price… magnifico!
Do we dare wish for Iron Horse?
@danandlisa That “magnifico” tells me it’s got to be a winery with Italian or Spanish inspiration in there somewhere, Noceto or someone like that. But despite the fact that it’s Fall… so something more suitable for summer? Or something with Spring or Summer in the name… Primavera something or other? OK, I give up.
@danandlisa
A little Iron Horse Summer’s Cuvée In the Fall would be lovely.
@danandlisa @InFrom
indeed, the “magnifico” made me think of Noceto or Pedroncelli…
@danandlisa @InFrom @karenhynes
The season reference makes me think it’s a pink or white - maybe the (nearly) annual Pedroncelli Rose offer? I’d take down some of that…it’s a go-to in our house.
@danandlisa @InFrom @karenhynes @klezman id be ok with that!
I am wishful thinking on this fall evening.
Chicago 25 or 6 to 4: does anybody really care? No clue tonight? 8 minutes to go (baited breath).
@jmdavidson1
I do! Not often up for clues and rarely for turnover. Sad there is no clue tonight.
@pseudogourmet98 Drum roll…down to one minute.
Sorry. Blame it on high school volleyball. I need to learn to outsource. Great to have poizin back!
Never trust a big button smile
Clue for this evening? Roger Corman
@Winedavid49
I have a bottle of this to rat at home, but I don’t yet know what it is. (And I don’t get home until 4.5 hours after rollover, so the report is coming tomorrow night.)
Could this be Inglenook??
@Winedavid49 Okanagan Valley Bucket O’Blood Red?
@InFrom @Winedavid49 how do you figure that?? But I’d be super happy if it was Canadian wine!
@klezman @Winedavid49 umm don’t you have a lovely wife at home that could probably give us an even better report than if you were at home!?
@Winedavid49 Something from Black Cat Vineyard (Napa)?
The Black Cat is part of a Roger Corman anthology (Tales of Terror), an Edgar Allen Poe story about wine tasting.
@klezman @Winedavid49
Roger Corman, that’s how! I was wondering how you connected the hint to Inglenook.
@ScottW58 @Winedavid49 don’t worry, she’ll help too.
@Winedavid49 Pope Valley
@klezman
I don’t know…is she not allowed to try a rat bottle unless you’re home? That sounds sexist I think someone needs to call the Me too people
@InFrom @klezman @Winedavid49
Corman helped Coppola and other directors early in their careers.
@ScottW58 Allowed, sure! But we both know I am more nerdy about the wine than she is and especially with a big red blend she’d rather I was around to help drink it!
Nice tries. All top shelf guesses. His movies? Not so much.
@Winedavid49
Past wines have been Vampire Wines and River of Skulls. Thete’s also been Lido Bay with 3.
But leaning towards TO River of Skulls instead of the other 2.
@Winedavid49
On second thought, Vampire Wine is more likely, given some of Corman’s movies
@Winedavid49. DOH!!
B movie Director. …
@MarkDaSpark too much of a stretch for a clue?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I thought it was a great clue…especially the second part.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 I was playing with the “B movie” concept, but it was a dead end for me.
@Winedavid49 Not at all. Great clues!
So, do we have a pool going on if/when @WineDavid49 will post a clue?
Clue? oh Alison, I know this world is killing you, ohhh Alison…
@Winedavid49
Well, Alison Crowe is the winemaker at Garnet Vineyards. With PN and Chard. But probably too obvious.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Alison is also at Picket Fence, I believe.
@Winedavid49
If using Costello …
Castello di Amorosa - similar sound
Dutcher Crossing Winery - has Costello Vineyard Chard.
Costello cab? Seems rather obvious, to my simple-minded simple mind. Or, Huntington has a Costello Vineyard Chardonnay.
@coynedj Nicely done.
I don’t know that song, but google does
@klezman Great song. To prove how old it is and I am, I have it on 45.
you haven’t hit it yet.
@Winedavid49
Hmmm…are we back to Archery Summit, with our true aim?
Alison is on the My Aim Is True album… Maybe Slingshot?
@radiolysis
Oooh, good one!
@karenhynes @radiolysis I was just going there as well.
@karenhynes @radiolysis @rjquillin
I’m on board the Slingshot train. I tried to sing Alison at a karaoke bar for the first time when we were in Chicago last month. Thankfully jmdavidson and karenhynes weren’t around for that debacle.
clue? guilty pleasure of sorts.
@Winedavid49 Vice Wine?
Lols like my clue is not translating wel.
@Winedavid49 I forgot it was even rollover day/night.
/image waiting
@winedavid49 Mystery Wine?
Dang, meant to before the kids game.
Heck, id even take this over my glass house.
@Winedavid49
Clayhouse?
@Winedavid49
/giphy Brick house?
She’s mighty mighty she’ll let it all hang out
@Winedavid49
Hopefully, more Adobe Red!
@Winedavid49 I’ll be seeing that barn tomorrow…
@WineDavid49 … Another kids game delay?
@MarkDaSpark
Oooh, oooh, oooh! I know! I know!
@karenhynes Yes. We got Clark’s email. He can’t keep a secret.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes I’m already looking for another split.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes Somehow I fell off the list for this one. Hope I can stand the suspense for the next 43 minutes (if I can stay away that long)? It’s always a good day when Clark and his wine show up.
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @karenhynes Yeah, I didn’t get the email until 8:55pm PDT. But I knew what it was because Ron mentioned he was getting a rat bottle.
Hah, yea, no need for a clue tonight.
@Winedavid49
Teach me to not read my emails!
Edit: Actually, his email didn’t show up in my inbox til 8:55pm!
Clue? a very cool (albeit a little weird) tasting room in northern Sonoma county.
@Winedavid49
OK…first stab…Chateau Diana.
@Winedavid49
Meeker?
@Winedavid49
Bacigalupi
Gundlach Bundschu
Kivelstadt
Medlock Ames
Good night
Hopefully, @WineDavid49 isn’t busy watching Thursday night football …
Only because I’m still in love with you.
FYI, More Of a college football guy actually
@Winedavid49 @MarkDaSpark
Do you love him enough for it to be Iron Horse?
@Winedavid49 On this Harvest Moon?
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Excellent guess!
I usually tap into the musical hints…I must be off my game tonight.
@InFrom @karenhynes @Winedavid49 Not sure what Al Green has to do with wine.
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @Winedavid49 Al Green? That’s Neil Young!
@klezman People are forever getting them confused, it’s a common error.
@InFrom @karenhynes indeed.
@InFrom @klezman Seriously?
@InFrom @klezman @rjquillin Does no one have a sense of humor around here?
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @klezman @rjquillin al green relates to everything.
@InFrom good work!
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @klezman Perhaps I missed it; not unthinkable.
@jmdavidson1 @klezman @rjquillin
@jmdavidson1 @klezman @rjquillin
OK, that’ll teach me to try to get all fancy and post quotes from my phone, early in the a.m.! Anyway, Al and Neil have a lot in common – they both sing in a pretty high register, and, they’re both great!
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @rjquillin I don’t know this song. Oh well! But Al Green is always good.
@InFrom @klezman Thanks for posting the video. As smooth as a baby’s a–>.
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @klezman @rjquillin
The Reverend! This one is probably his best known and was on our wedding reception playlist…
@chipgreen @jmdavidson1 @klezman @rjquillin Love that one too! Actually, in my brain today, I would start out with one song and it would somehow morph into the other.
@chipgreen Great songs!!!Thanks for posting that one too. And thanks to wine david for the clue to generate this.
@chipgreen @InFrom @jmdavidson1 @klezman @rjquillin one of my all time favorites!
Don’t you know that I’m still in love with you… classic!
Doesn’t this mean we need a clue for tonight’s offer?
Making sure i get the clue in before the world series!
Eureka! does that mean lion?
@Winedavid49 Congratulations to the Red Sox from a Cubs’ fan. Sorry, no wine guess.
tonight’s clue?
Just one vintage this time. thank goodness!
@Winedavid49
St. Amant Winery Mixed Reds?
@Winedavid49
Keller Estate?
@Winedavid49
Scott Harvey?
@Winedavid49 makes sense now.
Need to make it 9.
Nah, disaster averted this time.
Pavi?
@catcoland good guess!
Better get a clue going. i’m heading out early to enjoy the weather in one of the last days before daylight savings. ah, the good life and a sense of well being.
@Winedavid49
Imagery Estate Winery (Benziger)
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Love that place.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Agreed. Good wines and enjoyed the gallery. Was raining the weekend of the Casemates launch, but their outdoor area looked legit. I would be surprised if we saw them here though.
@Winedavid49 benessere?
I guess the time change has thrown @Winedavid49 off.
Thanks for the reminder. Clue? Radford directorial and my favorite catcher
@Winedavid49 1984. Merchant of Venice. Yogi Berra. Piedmont. Barbera. Hmmm? Karen, any guesses? Johnny Bench. Rutherford Bench.
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
I was looking at 1984…but the catcher clue is stumping me. I couldn’t name a catcher if you held a gun to my head.
JMD…missed you at Mainstreet today. I tasted far too many wines.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @Winedavid49
And here I was trying to find a catcher that had a nickname of Postman (il Postino). Then I thought it might be a Fresno State catcher. There’s a Ward who went to the Angels, but the Ward Johnson Winery in Seattle looks small.
There was also a Wynns at FSU. And there’s a Wynns Coonawarra Estate winery. So maybe one of the importers?
But yes, this one is hard!
@karenhynes +1 says I have enuf wines, so why should we go? Guess I’m on a SIWBO. Who knew?
No idea about the catcher. Catcher in the Rye? JD Salinger. Holden Caufield.
@jmdavidson1
I tasted a lot but managed to limit myself to buying only a case. I also have too much wine.
Another tidbit. Brad on the one hand and Davey C and Pete and on the other .
@Winedavid49 Bench from Brack Mountain?
@Winedavid49
Definitely something with Bench since Davey C and Pete were Reds, like Johnny Bench. Hmmm. But Brad? Ausmus? Tigers? Angels? hmm
@Winedavid49
Well, it almost indicates Johnny Bench, with Dave Concepción and Pete Rose on the 1970 Cincinnati Reds team, but no Brad on the roster at the time. Later, Brad “The Animal” Lesley was pitching, but no Johnny Bench.
However, there was Alex Trevino catching, with Brad pitching and Dave & Pete infield.
There’s a Trevino Vineyards in Calistoga, but small. So maybe a closeout?
@Winedavid49
So … Brad?
Ah. Maybe it should have said a “Redford” directorial
@mwfielder Oh crap. It was meant to say redford… big oops!!
@Winedavid49 lol, no worries. Though you probably cost Mark about 2 hours of his life.
Apologies for the last clue typo.
Today’s clue? Uh, Irish bird house??
@Winedavid49
Back to Onesta?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 You have got to be totally inside WD’s head.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 That was quick!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 That was quick! And WD – ouch! That was bad!
yea, pardon the weak clue last time. must have been light in the head and dead on my feet!
@Winedavid49 Great song! Lemme guess: Sax Riff Rose?
@Winedavid49
Another Baker Lane Vineyards offer?
Baker Street = Baker Lane
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Probably my favorite saxophone solo ever…
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 All the more fitting that it should have a fine wine named after it!
Clue on this smokey CA evening?
California flower
@Winedavid49
Poppy Winery?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 We should twist this around.
You post the clue and WD has to find the wine to match it.
Another whiff of Smoking Gun would be too obvious, but it isn’t a flower either.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Poppy might be too obvious, too…and not smokey… I stopped looking though, when I poured myself a glass of Cab.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Sake tonight, with sashimi. Momokawa Ruby Junmai Ginjo
Wonder if WD even remembers this from Jan '16
@Winedavid49
Monte de Oro?
Golden Poppy aka Copa de Oro
@karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49 You on the right board, Son?
@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49
It’s a crossover thread.
@InFrom @karenhynes @Winedavid49 duh, wrong tab.
@Winedavid49
I did not know that!
@rjquillin Must’ve been the sake posting…
@InFrom Johnny Carson?
@Winedavid49 exactly! I heard his voice, as I was typing that. Showing my age…
tonight’s wine?
Skydiving??
@Winedavid49
Well, there was a Tandem Winery, but they shut down quite a while back. Have you stumbled upon an old stash? I’ll keep thinking…
@Winedavid49
Next guess…Tsillan Cellars?
@Winedavid49 Baiocchi…an Italian ancient currency. Skydiving? Freefalling currency Italian? OK, David, what do the clue and the wine have in common?
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49 It’s buried in the description of the winery/owner.
@InFrom @jmdavidson1 ok, not my best effort.
I can think of a couple of songs, but no wines. “Freefalling”, and “Live Like You Were Dying”.
new clue?
who ate Gilbert?
@Winedavid49
Hedges Family Estate Wines?
@Winedavid49
Gruet Mixed?
“the winery’s roots trace back to Gilbert Gruet’s Champagne House in Bethon, France.”
@Winedavid49 With Gruet up on rll, at least we know they’re still talking.
/giphy football-endzone-touchdown-dance
@MarkDaSpark
well done!
@Winedavid49 Tonight’s clue?
@jmdavidson1 well, it ain’t olive oil!
@Winedavid49
High Point Sauv Blanc by Vincent Arroyo?
They have Olive Oil there.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 And Nocetto…
Likely others as well.
But I’ve not a clue.
Tick, tock, tick tock.
@Winedavid49 Tonight’s clue?
For starters, i’m feeling Gilty about this one.
@Winedavid49
Boy, that was a maladroit clue. You get a left handed compliment on it!
@MarkDaSpark fair enough. This clue giving is a lot like baseball, good thing another game is coming right up to make amends.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 I think you should read Sparky’s post again, rather than complaining about the clue, he’s just punning you based on the translated name of the wine.
Hey, is your post the next clue??? Hmmm…
@InFrom @Winedavid49
It was both. Still trying to figure it out, but as noted, Mancino means Left-Handed.
True Grit
Now, which product.
Oh, wait, I read Gritty.
I really did swish & spit; honest.
Tonight’s clue? Burt Reynolds, Bohemian Rapsody lead singer (during live aid). For a cause.
@Winedavid49
Mercury Wine seems too obvious…
@Winedavid49
I would guess Pedroncelli Mother Clone Zinfandel since Burt Reynolds played “Mother” in The Longest Yard and Rami Malek practically cloned Freddie Mercury’s Live Aid performance but what’s the cause? Hmm…
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 Maybe some variety of OneHope winery’s stuff? They have a “California Brut Sparkling Wine Rainbow Glitter Edition” which looks like might be fun (Seriously doubt it, but throwing the guess in for the entertainment value.)
@Winedavid49
Oh, so it was all about the Mustache. Tom Selleck instead of Burt Reynolds would have made it easier, at least for me.
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
But it’s not supposed to be easy for you! Just me. And if I had remembered to check back after eating dinner …
Yikes, time for a quick clue. I mean this isn’t that hard , it’ not like im junpimg…
@Winedavid49 I never know whether your typos are intentional for these clues!
@klezman @Winedavid49
It is hard to know, after all, that’s how we knew it was WD using @WineFarm’s id!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @winefarm true
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
You’re not really suggesting that @winefarm was responsible for the fat finger clue.
Are you?
I sense Tonight’s clue will mention libraries and reading glasses!
tonight’s clue? Seals partner and a bambi home. Not in that order.
@Winedavid49
Meadowcroft
But which one?
There are so many…
And it’s Crofts.
So, perhaps a mixed offer?
Have to leave the rest of this to @karenhynes
@karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49
The one in Sonoma?
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Well, Sonoma really narrows it down.
There are only 214 bottles from Sonoma from vintage 2014 to 2018 inclusive for under $50.
@MarkDaSpark @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Darn I missed it. Came home sick and went to bed at 6pm.
Hope everyone is having a nice thanksgiving holiday. I’ve been tracking this wine source for over 2 1/2 years. Very excited for their first offer. it’s a real treasure.
@Winedavid49
So, a first time supplier?
Perhaps one we’ve requested?
@Winedavid49 One of the Treasury Wine Estates properties? But that seems almost silly.
There’s also a Treasure Winery in Napa
There’s also a couple wines on the theme of “x marks the spot”
@klezman @Winedavid49
There are also Treasure Hunter wines, somewhat along the lines of Cameron Hughes, with declassified surplus wines from presumably higher end wineries being produced under the Treasure Hunter label.
@klezman @Winedavid49 And so it is…
I’ve oft looked at the Provenance offers during their sales. Did pick up some older Merlot from a TWS Diagio sale.
Along the pirate theme, La Sirena would be on the pricier side, but WD’s been known to twist arms before…
@karenhynes Heidi Barrett’s wine that would be a shocker!
@WineDavid49
Tick, tock
clue? jimmy Stewart’s friend.
@Winedavid49
Is Scott Harvey in da house?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Or that libation that became a favorite of my elders, back in the '70s. I guess it was a marketing play, suddenly it was everywhere!
/giphy Harvey’s Bristol Cream
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 there is the book about Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart named “Hank and Jim”. So my guesses are… Lafonda or Anderson Valley Vineyards (run by a Hank)
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Gotta be a Scott Harvey offer!
@karenhynes @radiolysis this is a great answer. I recently watched the movie Spencer’s Mountain (again 30 years later) And forgot how mich that movie impacted me. Loved Henry Fonda in that movie.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Is he back from his river curse yet?
I’d have thought he’d be on the boards by now, if so…
@rjquillin cruise?
@InFrom
cruise
but it looks like he should be back already.
@rjquillin So not some kind of river curse? I was imagining what that would look like, and who would cast it upon him. And why.
@InFrom Ahhh, just saw it. The dreaded auto-ispell .
Clue? Now i understand.
@Winedavid49
Sonoma-Loeb Wines?
@Winedavid49 From Miss American Pie (Don McLean). Hmm??
They did not listen…
@Winedavid49
Vincent Arroyo?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
I’m thinking karen nailed it but I will throw out Starry Night winery as an alternate guess.
@Winedavid49 perhaps they’ll listen now.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 you need to explain this train of so-called logic…
@klezman @Winedavid49
Lyrics from the song “Vincent” (Don McLean).
@klezman is too young to know it.
@Winedavid49 No clue for tomorrow’s wine?
A clue? Italian 4
@Winedavid49. Not Quattro Goombas … must be Buoncristiani Family Winery - Four Brothers - Buoncristiani Brothers
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 yep. Good guess. Since we got the OPC last time, maybe a selection of whites?
@Winedavid49
Pedroncelli Vintage Port Four Grapes
Unlikely, but possible.
The '13 is released, and hasn’t been here yet…
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
One offer early with that guess!
Is Italian 4 …
@Winedavid49 QPR, Pedroncelli?
@Winedavid49
Ah, Four generations.
@catcoland @Winedavid49 Lol, of course! Here I was translating 4 into “quattro” and going down that dead end, when all I needed to do was read it out loud. Good one, WD.
@catcoland @InFrom thanks!
@WineDavid49 Ahem!
4 Italian
@Winedavid49 I feel like I’m in a hall of mirrors…
@InFrom @Winedavid49 Craftwork!
Naw, not a chance.
@Winedavid49
Now you use Buoncristiani!
@MarkDaSpark i know right?!!
@rjquillin @Winedavid49 Kraftwerk?
Yer swelcome!
@Winedavid49 The above was a clue.
swilly? I thought he was not playing the game…
@JOATMON
Perhaps arms have been twisted?
@JOATMON @karenhynes
Good guess and Casemates offer #51 was for 2016 Stillman Brown Zeppelin Winery Mix so it wouldn’t be the first time.
Next!
@MarkDaSpark i bet you’ll find gold in this wine coming up.
how about a clue?
it’s not anything to F5 about.
@Winedavid49
Another Vigilance offer?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Definitely sounds like a “reload”, but which offer? Hmmmm…
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Woot Cellars Reboot, redux?
@InFrom @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Anything but that!
And it wouldn’t be a WC offer!
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 True.
When I think F5, I think of trying to get a BOC. Maybe it’s wine in a bag?
@InFrom @karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I know what it is but if I tell you, they will have to kill me!
@chipgreen @karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Nooo, not that!
at least? I just have a feeling I am. 
Am I on the right track
@InFrom
You were closer the first time (insert Pope Hat emoji here)
@chipgreen @InFrom Oooooh…the inaugural Casemates Christmas wine?
Fun couple of days, thanks for the support.
clue?
The good cop??
@Winedavid49
Danza del Sol
@Winedavid49
Somehow, Die Hard pops into mind. John McClane, Bruce Willis’ character, always seemed in trouble with his bosses.
Chad Willis (no relation, afaik), owns Santa Ramona Vineyards in Murrieta, California.
Another clue? Tv show/ singer ?
@Winedavid49
Josh Cellars Wines?
North Coast Cab?
@Winedavid49
Halleck Vineyard Find Your Light Pinot?
@Winedavid49
There’s always a repeat offer of Bridge 1904 from VA.
The Bridge was a tv show that had a cop named “Sonya Cross” (Diane Kruger) … singer Christopher Cross tie-in. Yes, stretching!
@karenhynes How you did that?
@karenhynes
Nice call on the winery and varietal! +50 points
But only close on the vineyard! -10 points
Not showing your work … -10 points!
@InFrom
The Good Cop…(tv show) starring Josh Groban (singer). I googled “Josh Groban wine” and Halleck Vineyards came up.
@MarkDaSpark
I should have been less specific!
@karenhynes
It was still +30 points!
@MarkDaSpark
I didn’t know we were keeping score!
How many points do I have?
…and I did show my work (upon request)…while you were editing your comment to subtract 10 more points.
@karenhynes @InFrom
Oh, you’re in the lead by far.
And I started editing to add the “show your work” after InFrom’s post and before you posted showing it!
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark
we were editing simultaneously. I’m a slow typist on my phone, from bed, with only one eye open. 
@karenhynes @karenhynes
Funny you should say that. Something about my glasses that makes it easier to read my phone squinting through only one eye, when I’m reading in bed. My spouse caught me at it last night, scrolling through the latest dramedy on meh. “Are you reading with your eyes closed?!?” I’m sure it’s a very attractive look.
@InFrom I just take out my contact lenses and hold the phone directly to my eyeball.
No clue on new offer?
@MarkDaSpark
In the absence of a clue, I’m going to guess Iron Horse (because NYE is creeping up on us and…bubbles!)
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark I’m going to die laughing if this is true.
@MarkDaSpark @TechnoViking
I might, too!
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @TechnoViking @winedavid49
It is up on gilt, so…
Clue?
Poet train
@Winedavid49
Casey Flat Ranch Vineyards?
(Capay Valley AVA)
Poet Train by kevin casey.
@Winedavid49
Iron Horse!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
I like your guess better!
Hopefully delivery in time for NYE!
Oh, and -10 points!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I didn’t show my work!
“Iron Horse”, an often used metaphor for a steam locomotive in poetry.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I can’t give away all of my convoluted thought processes.
Best to let RJQ think WD and I have some cosmic link.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Think you do!?
I didn’t realize there was ever a doubt!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
I like to learn new things! I never knew that!
@karenhynes I’m afraid not
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Noooooooo!
What???
I shall guess Iron Horse every offer until it shows up.
@karenhynes
And you had me believing it would be IH!
@MarkDaSpark
It made perfect sense (in my head).
Iron Horse???
(Just squeezing in a guess before I go spend 90 minutes sitting in traffic)
@karenhynes Bubbly for NYE would have been a nice offer.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes there’s still a chance! While browsing through various sites, most sites advertising guaranteed delivery by dec 24 via FedEx if ordered by today. If we don’t see it within 3 days I wouldn’t hold your breath.
@jmdavidson1 Agreed. Perhaps @winedavid49 is saving the Iron Horse offer for my birthday!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 You say the funniest things.
clue?
the original material.
@Winedavid49
Carica Wines?
@karenhynes I see what you did there, and I like it!
But I’m going with Clayhouse.
@InFrom
Oooh…that’s good, too!
@InFrom @karenhynes
I’m jumping on board with Clayhouse as well, one of the Adobe blends.
@chipgreen @InFrom
Probably a good jump!
@Winedavid49 Fossil Point?
@Winedavid49
I see
what you did there!
Clue?
Krupp buy.
@Winedavid49
Kitchak?
@Winedavid49
Or anything coming out of Stagecoach Vineyard?
@karenhynes Right again!!!
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes
/giphy weird-Twilight-Zone
@jmdavidson1 @MarkDaSpark
I didn’t even sneak in an Iron Horse guess.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Hmm, when are we going to get an IH offer? Bubbly for NYE would be perfect.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @Winedavid49
IH has got a today, 12/21 only, special of 25% off all wines!
Just wait; we’ll buy and WD will beat it.
Can’t count the times that’s happened to me.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @MarkDaSpark impressive guess! en fuego!
@winedavid49 Should I guess Iron Horse again or is it time to give up the dream?
@karenhynes @WineDavid49
If not tonight, then we probably won’t see it until NYE or next year. Not sure if shipping would be in time for NYE.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Ah, yes, but there’s still a chance of an IH offer for my birthday!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Then again, it might arrive for Chinese New Year !!!
Shouldn’t we have had a clue already @winedavid49?
Wait, we’ll just let @karenhynes make her request!
@rjquillin Iron Horse???
@karenhynes
@karenhynes Nope, that’s not the one we’re looking for…
Sigh.
@rjquillin But still tempting…
well, at least you got sparkling correct! pardon the no show on the clue. will hit the next one. happy holidays!
@Winedavid49
Enough eggnog! Time for a …
/giphy Inspector-Clouseau
Merry Christmas Andy happy holidays! The wine tonight is closely protected, including security.
@Winedavid49
Is it, by chance, guarded by an Iron Horse??
@Winedavid49
If not Iron Horse, perhaps Newton Vineyard’s Puzzle red blend?
@Winedavid49
Two more possibilities, first is more likely.
Meeker Wines (tasting room is in an old bank, and the vault is still there)
Pheasant Run Winery (their tasting room is also in an old bank).
Meeker is a popular winery.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Meeker makes a lot of sense. Well done sparky! Only 25 minutes until we see if you’re right.
@Winedavid49
raspberries
@klezman @Winedavid49
Darn it! Forgot about Gård (Guard).
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 He fooled us by being so simplistic about it!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Indeed!
and*
@Winedavid49 that mis-spell wasn’t a clue?!
@rjquillin no.
I know, I know!
@karenhynes I just checked my email, I didn’t see anything from Clark. But I just saw a spoiler that made me think it’s him. It’s he.
@InFrom @karenhynes Yes there was an email earlier today.
@karenhynes
Well, lets WD off the hook for tonight’s clue.
But NOT for tomorrow’s clue!
@karenhynes Yeah, me too!
Really wanted to have some solid food with it.
Likely if you went to the farewell dinner you too may have sampled.
@rjquillin
Rodent??
@karenhynes Hmmm…I didn’t get any email from Clark. Maybe after knowing him for 55 years I’ve finally ended up on his naughty list.
@Mark_L Mine arrived several hours after the sale went live.
Paging @WineDavid49 You have cluemasters waiting.
pardon Delay. Clue?
Normally it’s a wagon this color this holiday season.
@Winedavid49
MacPhail?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
If I had remembered to check before 9, I would have first guessed Lil White from Little Red Wagon Winery.
But if I had time, second guess might have been Red Car. Because Karen got it a previous time they were up (May 23 offer), and I think she guessed McPhail first then too! (After I guessed Red Zepplin and Red Truck back then.)
Lil White
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I knew there had been a similarly themed clue previously and was going to look back through old offers but then I got distracted by football and sleepiness.
It sounds yummy but after the past few weeks I officially have far too much wine.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
No, no, no. You have a “drinking problem”. You aren’t drinking fast enough!
I haz the same problem!
So, @WineDavid49, what’s the last offer of the year?
Clue? It happens .
@Winedavid49
Twisted Oak Potty Mouth! White and/or Red.
@Winedavid49 Scheid?
@Winedavid49 Wait, hold the phones – It Happens – @karenhynes, could this be the moment you’ve waited for??
@InFrom @Winedavid49
A girl can dream!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 I Hope you’re right. I’ll even stay up until 11 to see.
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
I’m in Philly. I have to stay up until midnight. Plus, this would kill my post-holiday no buy.
@InFrom @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Can we jump for Joy?
That would be an expensive offer!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Well done!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Nailed it!
The Mind Meld worked!
Happy New Year’s!
@InFrom @karenhynes
I think the ‘H’ would have been capitalized for IH.
@MarkDaSpark ok that wasn’t meant as a serious guess, it was a joke. Because karenhynes always guesses the same thing, you see.
@InFrom
“Always”? That was her Wish List!
She has the WD Mind Meld down pat, and usually has the correct offer right away! I just happened to beat her this time.
@Winedavid49 I’ve been living in a farm state too long. My first thought on seeing “IH” was International Harvester.
New clue? @WineDavid49
HAppy new year!
CLue?
Tough one. This guy does a ton of import biz out of the central coast. This is his personal brand.
@Winedavid49
Tablas Creek?
@Winedavid49 One of the Gallos? Gallo Sonoma, maybe?
Does one of the current grandchildren own a winery?
@karenhynes What’s with the HA and the CL?
@InFrom @karenhynes @winedavid49
You never really know if it’s a phone thing, or he intends it…
@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49
I wondered, too. Hmmmm.
@karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49 I’m going with intentional. Of course that doesn’t get me any closer to a guess.
@Winedavid49
This is tough. Was thinking Hitching Post initially, but doesn’t fit clues.
@InFrom @karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Was thinking elements HA and CL (Chlorine), but there is no HA in periodic table (Hahnium (Ha) is now an element called Dubnium, Db).
There is Hyaluronic Acid, but not sure how that helps.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Hahnium, you say? (I know, it doesn’t fit the clue, but it’s almost midnight and I got nothin’.)
@InFrom @karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49
I was thinking of Hahn, but nothing was fitting. He was Swiss, but that would be HE (Helvetica).
So some 'splaining would be nice!
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark @rjquillin @Winedavid49
I think we might be reading too much into what was likely a typing issue. Greg Martellotto is a wine importer as well as a winemaker. I don’t see any connection to the HA CL capitalization. Pretty simple clue once you know the answer, unless I’m totally missing something. Then again, it’s 4:12 am here and I’m still awake for no good reason, so I may just be rambling on nonsensically.
@karenhynes
04:20!?
Sitll up?
That’s when I’m starting to get up!
@rjquillin
Insomnia
@InFrom @karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @rjquillin @Winedavid49
I didn’t spend much time on it but was thinking of the Treasure Hunter guy, Hunter Vogle. I think he is more of a negociant than an importer though, ala Cameron Hughes.
I am sitting on a couple 2010 Martellotto Cabernet Sauvignon M Spring Mountain Cabs that I got from wine.woot in '13 and also still have 1 bottle of Piro Piro Piccolo Pinot Grigio which was a Martelloto offering.
CT has not been kind to the Cab. Surprising for Spring Mt. fruit but I will wait on them until 2020+ to make sure they are out of any possible dumb phase.
Clue for tonight’s launch?
how can they keep calling it that? been around so long it probably got grandfathered.
@Winedavid49
Pedroncelli Four Grapes Port?
@chipgreen wow.
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 had me pull out that last bottle in the fridge to look for any clues. Fingers crossed. Cacao wafers too?
@chipgreen OK Mr. Smartypants, what vintage?
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 Nicely done sir! I would definitely have gone with something named Port as well.
@Winedavid49 If it weren’t for the launch comment, I could have gone for something from the Original Grandpere Vineyard; Scott perhaps?
have a good weekend everyone. Clue?
educator exam.
@Winedavid49
Aha! Another offering by Praxis Cellars! More Viognier?
The Praxis Series is provided by Educational Testing Service for educators. shows work.
@Winedavid49
/giphy happy-dance
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Well done!
Core
Good evenomg. Clue?
Jurassic
@Winedavid49
Fossil Point?
@Winedavid49 Please tell me Jeff Goldblum makes a wine
@klezman Dark, with notes of bizarre?
@Winedavid49
Kunin Wines Chenin Blanc 2014
@jml326 @Winedavid49
Oooh…good guess!
@Winedavid49
Park
grin
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
ding ding ding
No matter the clue tonight, I’m guessing Hawley
@klezman Can’t imagine why…
@klezman We whiff…
@rjquillin Friday
@klezman
I could go with that too…
I’d like to see Hawley again.
So I guess the guess tonight is Hawley?
Guesses on varietal?
Viognier
@MarkDaSpark
Sounds yummy. So does the pinot…and the Cab…and the Zin…
@MarkDaSpark I hope it’s the Merlot or Meritage. I’ve really liked how they’ve done those varieties.
@MarkDaSpark I’m on the edge of my seat!
@InFrom @MarkDaSpark Not the rim of your glass?
@MarkDaSpark Humm, I think we all fail; PWR.
Where’s the beef?
@rjquillin
Must be tomorrow then? 2nd offer with no hint from @WineDavid49!!!
@MarkDaSpark @rjquillin Blaming it on the national champ game… still recovering…!
Gotta be Pinot
@ScottW58
You know I love a good pinot!
#sucker
@karenhynes well he did say he wasn’t making it anymore I think so he needs to get rid of the remaining stocks I’m thinking
Iron horse?
@jml326
Hey now, that’s supposed to be my guess.
It would be just in time for my birthday.
@karenhynes
Happy Birthday!
@karenhynes my bad. I haven’t seen you guess sense new years. Thought you gave up.
@chipgreen
Thanks! It’s not until Saturday. @winedavid49 must be saving something special!
@jml326
I haven’t given up completely, yet…just giving everyone should break.
@WineDavid49
Well?
Clue?!
Falconry
@Winedavid49
Halcón Vineyards
@Winedavid49
Forgot it was Hawley!
Clue? Lake county organic
@Winedavid49
Is Six Sigma back?
@Winedavid49 Shannon Ridge is another Lake County winery we’ve seen here before…
@klezman
At least it is green.
Any Black tie offers in the pipeline?
Next up clue?
Brady pop and Kong gal
@Winedavid49 Lang and Reed, eh? Never heard of 'em. Looking forward, though.
@Winedavid49 Please let it be the Cab Franc!!!
@InFrom @Winedavid49 If these are the guys who made the Toothy v2 Cab Franc, I want more of that juice!
@InFrom
It is the Cab Franc!
@WineDavid49
/giphy Clue-movie
@MarkDaSpark Who is that?
@InFrom
Tim Curry, Eileen Brennan, & Colleen Camp !!!
@MarkDaSpark Well, so it is! Wow.
Clue?
you’ll be mesmerized by this wine.
Spellbound wines
@jml326
Well done!!
/giphy self-congratulation
Evidently, @WineDavid49 forgot in all the excitement of the Dragons first game.
happy sunday. clue?
winery rhyme’s with Muppet character.
@Winedavid49 So many options…I don’t even know where to start. Gonzo? Kermit? Animal? Miss Piggy? Swedish Chef? Beeker?!
@klezman @Winedavid49 Meeker winery, I was thinking Beeker too.
@TechnoViking @Winedavid49 Yeah, that’s a good one.
@klezman @Winedavid49 2012/13 Syrah. Just a WiLD gUESS.
@klezman @TechnoViking @Winedavid49
Meeker sounds like the best option. Unless there’s some little-known Muppet named “SchmIRON ScHmORSE”.
@karenhynes @klezman @TechnoViking @Winedavid49 You won’t see an IH offered until there is a red moon…There is?..Tonight?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Not tonight! Then howsabout once in a blue moon?
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @Winedavid49 It will be a bit of a wait, then. October 2020 (or May 2019, if you accept the seasonal definition).
Clue? What does this have to do with the Geyserville fire department??
@Winedavid49
Trentadue Winery
@Winedavid49
Peterson Winery?
@Winedavid49 i immediately went to Hook & Ladder, but they’re not in Geyserville… So maybe that makes it still in the running?
sheesh.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Leaning towards Peterson. They had a Centennial bottle, organized by him.
@karenhynes impressive!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
I think Karen has gotten more of these than the rest of us combined!
If I ever do one of those escape room things, Karen will be my #1 pick for a partner. I think I’d even have to fly her here out here, just to do one.
@rjquillin @karenhynes so true!
clue? seems an appropriate wine given his education.
@Winedavid49 Geekz is too expensive…or is this a mega-black-tie day?
@Winedavid49
VIDON Vineyards
@jml326 Well, they do look pretty well educated! But what about the appropriate wine part?
@Winedavid49
Doublebond Wine? Owner/co-winemaker is a PhD in Chemistry.
Or return of C.G.DiArie?
@Winedavid49 Well now that we know the wine, that’s quite the sneaky clue! Well done!
I was almost right about the mega-black-tie, though…this wine at this price is utterly amazing.
@Winedavid49
I actually considered that Scott Harvey was German-educated but the fact that his Rieslings are under the Jana label threw me off. I did think about the Angel Eis for a second after discounting the regular Riesling but I just wasn’t confident that I was on the right path…
clue for tonight? Happy Happy…
@Winedavid49 Joy Joy. IH
@Winedavid49
Pretty please??? Iron Horse??
@Winedavid49
/giphy happy happy joy joy
@karenhynes FINALLY!!!
@Winedavid49
@Winedavid49
/giphy Clue
Clue? Immanuel Kant
@Winedavid49
…was a real pissant who was very rarely stable?
@Winedavid49
Benziger red wine offer … Kant was known for “Thing in itself” concept, and there’s an essay about Benziger getting ISO 14000 certification that mentions it.
@Winedavid49
Apriori Cellars?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 How the hell do you do that?!
@karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49
I’m beginning to think she’s hacked WD’s email account, or is paying off someone at CM.
@karenhynes Boom!
@klezman @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Haha! Some days I’m lucky if I can hack into my own e-mail.
For you guys (and Sparky), I will “show my work” (some of it).
I originally went in a completely different direction and thought Kant is a father/central figure in modern philosophy/meta physics. I think of Clark as our de facto father of (post) modern winemaking. Hmmmm…but we usually get a heads-up email. I ran off to check mine (hacked my way in!
)…nope, no email. Then I went off on another couple of tangents. Then I accidentally blinked and forgot to open my eyes for about half an hour (
). Then I decided to go back to basics.
From our friends at Wikipedia:
“…He drew a parallel to the Copernican revolution in his proposition that worldly objects can be intuited a priori (“beforehand”), and that intuition is therefore independent from objective reality…”
Aha!!! A priori! I think we’ve seen an Apriori offer before.
Boom!
@karenhynes @klezman @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Right. Now tell us who you bribed!
I think I read the same thing, but forgot about Apriori. Great job!
@klezman @MarkDaSpark @rjquillin @Winedavid49
No money left for bribes. Too much wine.
@karenhynes @klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
especially after BDX.
Ha so you say a not stable wine?? Sextant fizzy cab
@ScottW58
Actually he was boring, from what I read.
@ScottW58 Funniest thing I’ve read all year.
Clue?
sorry for the delay, i was out jogging in a nice breeze.
@Winedavid49
Don’t you hate it when you give a clue, and no one shows up?
@MarkDaSpark all good.
@Winedavid49 It was a very nice clue, the answer was hiding in plain sight but nobody got it. Hat tip to you!
Clue for tonight?
And another thing!
@Winedavid49
Furthermore
but which one…
@Winedavid49
Thanks for all the fish!
@rjquillin harvest sampler
@jml326 @rjquillin
I’d be in!
@Winedavid49
We can haz clue? Yes, it’s the 3rd Qtr, but you can do it!
/giphy Waterboy-you-can-do-it
got to tip your cap to the patriots. Their defense was amazing, like a very strong home.
@Winedavid49
Brick house?
@jml326 @Winedavid49 Bricks are made of Clay?
@InFrom @jml326 @Winedavid49 @karenhynes
So that would make it Clayhouse.
Unless it’s a Brick $#!thouse…
Seem them before, both of them.
Fortress?
@karenhynes You mean your spy didn’t tell you what was up?
@MarkDaSpark
Clue?
Fifty is ze new 30 !
@Winedavid49 geez. i get into such a rabbit hole about “why is fifty in words, but thirty is in numerals”. “why is there a space before the exclamation point”.
Gonna go with Sophora bubbly.
@radiolysis you focused on the wrong typo!
Thomspon 31Fifty
@jml326
Interesting…
@Winedavid49 Could there be a zeppelin sighting?
50 by 50 vineyard!
@Turner103200
Very interesting!
Tick tock.
clue?
cut me some slack!
47.3927
@Winedavid49 Something from The Loire Valley?
Really?
International now…?
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
That was my first find too, but it could also put us around Maple Valley/WallaWalla area, no?
@Winedavid49
Carlisle Winery?
@Winedavid49
Goose Ridge Estate Cab or Merlot … was on the old site.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
this?
jk
@rjquillin Well I’ll be…
@InFrom Still can’t even come close to @karenhynes
But this one is sweet; (pun intended)
Clue?
Tonight’s the night.
@Winedavid49 Hmm…Rod Stewart… Another Stewart Cellars? I just moved my remaining bottles (from the Feb 2018 offering here) of it down to Missouri earlier this week.)
@Mark_L @Winedavid49
Rod Stewart or Neil Young?? Hmmmm…
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 I went with Stewart because he wrote the lyrics. (Do you have any bottles left?)
@Mark_L @Winedavid49
I will agree!
@karenhynes @Mark_L @Winedavid49 I can’t think of a winery that would go with the Neil Young song, much as I wish it were the clue.
Econoline Wine Co.?
@InFrom @Mark_L @Winedavid49
@karenhynes @Mark_L @Winedavid49
Well done, all.
@winedavid49
Early reminder!
@MarkDaSpark
Premonition Cellars? Dawn’s Dream? J Bookwalter Merlot Foreshadow?
a clue?
daughter friend
@Winedavid49 Is that the same or different than a friend of one of your daughters?
@Winedavid49 Ironic that a wine company should have the initials A.A.
@klezman @Winedavid49
Daughter, friend, sister, wife… The Sister Wives!
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Was that an Anne Amie guess? I’ll go with that since all I have is silliness.
@Winedavid49
Bluestone Vineyard
@chipgreen @InFrom @Winedavid49
Good job!
Clue?
Nan started it all.
@Winedavid49 Martian Ranch and Vineyard?
@Winedavid49 McEvoy Ranch?
@Mark_L good one!
OK, Coming clean, i could use help on a clue for tonight. can someone whisper me? first one to whisper is the helper (unless @karenhynes) chimes in after you. then it’s her
Clue (with a little help from my friend mwfielder)
Dallas WR (kind of)
@Winedavid49
Too. Many. Choices.
Some candidates for Friday offers: Williams Selyem
Davis Family?
Kosta Browne?
Dang…now I’m thirsty.
@Winedavid49
Michael-David?
Nope! Keep thinking.
@Winedavid49 Beasley Vineyard?
@Winedavid49
Are you spring a Texas wine on us? Lenoir/Spanish Black?
Casarena Owen’s Vineyard?
Last clue: first name
@Winedavid49
Amavi Cellars?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Damn, you’re good.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Whoa.
@InFrom @rjquillin @karenhynes @Winedavid49
@karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Well, it helps that she’s hacked into WD’s computer!
/giphy The-Net-Sandra-Bullock
Clue? Graceland
@Winedavid49
Pressley Vineyards?
@Winedavid49 Unless there’s a Paul Simon-ish sort of winery?
@klezman MeYou&Julio Pinot Noir?
@klezman @Winedavid49
Paul Simeon Wines?
@Winedavid49
Swilly?
@karenhynes Both of your guesses seem entirely plausible.
@Winedavid49
Ah…King’s Estate!
Excellent clue! I feel like we’ve had a similar clue in the past but I’m too tired to go look.
A clue?
I’m quite aware of this winery near us.
@Winedavid49
Eco Terreno Wines?
@Winedavid49
Hughes Family Vineyards. Another Zin Vertical?
@Winedavid49
Them or Buena Vista or Sebastiani. But Hughes is right next to WCC, and have been on the old site with their Zin vertical.
@Winedavid49 A clue?
@Mark_L sorry, I had a thing.
Clue ? Two first names.
@Mark_L @Winedavid49
Is it time for Laura Michael to make an appearance?
@Mark_L @Winedavid49
Or is Scott Harvey in da house?
@Mark_L @Winedavid49 That list could be endless.
@Winedavid49
Michael David.
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I was just going to say that while Laura Michael seems more likely, Michael David did make an appearance on WW back in the day…
@karenhynes @Mark_L @Winedavid49
Once again, Karen is mind-melding with WD!
clue?
Morrison Variety
@Winedavid49 Van Ruiten?
@Winedavid49
Suncé?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Nice!
@Winedavid49
Well played sir!
Not grapes
@Winedavid49
Well Dang! I’m gonna need more than 8 minutes warning for a complete shift in thinking like that!
Clue?
Sugar’s foe- twice
@Winedavid49. Don’t tease!
An offer by Tommy Town Thoroughbreds & Vineyard?
Same ones that gave us … 2009 Woot Cellars Tøøthstejnn The Red, The Grimy Wyvern Wine-Hall Cabernet Franc?
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 I hope not…I’m not supposed to be buying any more wine! Keep it mundane and uninteresting, WD!
@klezman So much for mundane and uninteresting.
@Winedavid49 In retrospect, I see what you did there, but that’s a tough one!
@Winedavid49
Hmmm, Jake Lamotta fought Sugar Ray Robinson 5 times.
I guess a Chinatown Part 2 would have been too obvious.
ok, let’s try again.
Also a favorite place to eat.
@Winedavid49
Long Meadow Ranch?
@Winedavid49 Hitching Post! (if only…)
@Winedavid49
So, not really “also” but a different place with the same name? I probably take these clues too literally.
@radiolysis had a great steak there once.
clue?
label name = haven.
@Winedavid49
Sanctuary Wines?
@Winedavid49 Did someone say Havens?
(That literally = haven)
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Damn girl!
@rjquillin A little comma would make that so much nicer.
/giphy Damn, girl!
@InFrom Yes. Fortunately the intent wasn’t lost.
@rjquillin True.
@karenhynes nice work! good wine too.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 is this rigged. Or Karen must be an elite hacker!
@CorTot Careful, you’re straying into Sparky’s lane!
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
@CorTot @InFrom
No, no. I’m usually implying she’s mind-melded (Vulcan style) with WD or that she’s paid someone on staff. It’s fine for someone else to claim she’s a leet hacker.
I bet she graduated the same year I did. Same context!
@Winedavid49
I bet you’re right (or within one year). You also started this thread in 2018 on my birthday! Perhaps I feel a special link to it.
Clue?
Thank you very much
@Winedavid49
Alternate strange guesses…
Pressley Vineyards (ála Elvis Presley “thank you very much”)
Maybe a nice pinot from Kaufman Vineyard (ála Andy Kaufman “thank you very much”)
It’s a linguistic stretch, but… Engracia? (I hope, I hope!)
@InFrom
I like this guess
@karenhynes my wallet doesn’t…
@karenhynes ¡Gracias!
@InFrom
De nada!
it’s always quite an event when he drives up the wines himself.
@Winedavid49
Sadly, no more purple pimpernel.
Friday night clue?
Bulgarian pagan? who knew.
@Winedavid49
When are you just going to let Karen write the clue, and then go find the bottles to match?
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Oooh! That could be fun!
@Winedavid49
Now you’re getting lazy, recycling clues! (Well, sort of)
@rjquillin @Winedavid49
Actually, I was thinking of suggesting to WD that the correct guesser (i.e., usually @karenhynes ) gets to create the next offer’s clues.
Kukeri Wines
@pseudogourmet98
Oooh…beat me by a minute!
Though, he is also the winemaker at Meadowcroft, whose pinots were offered here a while back and were fantastic. Either way, I sense a purchase in my future if pinot is involved.
i’ll bring karenhynes in when i’m really stymied.
Tonight’s offer?
no, it’s not a brittish political party.
@Winedavid49
Hobo Wine Company?
@Winedavid49 Torii Mor, Oregon Pinot?
@Winedavid49
St. Supèry.
@Winedavid49
Ooh, ooh! Twisted Oak!
Not British Political Party = Pirate Party = Twisted Oak!
@Winedavid49
I’m leaning towards merrybill’s Torii Mor guess but to add another possible (but less expensive) OR Pinot to the mix… Union Wine Company?
@merrybill @Winedavid49
Nice call!
Clue for tonight?
no surprise this winery has an impeccable record!
@Winedavid49
St. Innocent Winery (Oregon)
@Winedavid49
Or a return of Little Vineyards and their Band Blend?
Slingshot?
@Turner103200
Could be!
Second clue - metal
@Winedavid49
It’s never too soon for more Iron Horse…
I’ll keep thinking, though.
@Winedavid49
Silver Oak?
@Winedavid49 Whiff.
@Winedavid49
Oooh…Sterling. haven’t been there for about 10 years (maybe longer) They have a beautiful location and tasting room. Next time get me some of their Malvasia Bianca!
Clue for tonight?
B-52’s and Bakersfield!
@Winedavid49
Shannon Ridge Buck Shack
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 Ding ding ding!
@chipgreen Impressive!
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
Well done!
I guess I’ll find out at 9pm whether I need to open the rat bottle that just arrived!
@klezman. Usually Ariana tells you in the email. If you got the email, that is!
@MarkDaSpark yeah that works better when I get an email…
@WineDavid49
No offer for Sunday/Monday?
Crap, playoff basketball. Quick easy clue.
Beach boys coup.
@Winedavid49
Deuce Cellars?
@Winedavid49
Gramercy Cellars, The Deuce?
@karenhynes not quite.
@Winedavid49
Oooh…J. Dusi?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 how the hell you do that?
@klezman @Winedavid49
@karenhynes @klezman ok Karen hynes I need help with tonight’s clue! Please whisper me!
3 hours, 20 minutes. … Tick tock @Winedavid49. We only allow 1 playoff excuses per season!
Heh. Fair enough. Clue?
We reward participation here.
@Winedavid49 In the People’s Wine Republic?
@Winedavid49
I’d guess The Lodge Winery, Trophy Series, but they have apparently halted wine sales due to licensing issues…
@karenhynes Everybody gets a trophy…
@InFrom @winedavid49
Millennial Wines?
@Winedavid49
Casemates?
@Winedavid49
I was on the right track, just needed to make another jump…
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
@leonifarms certainly deserves a participation award!
Next up? It’s about that time again, don’t you think? Capisce?
@Winedavid49 Pedroncelli? The annual rose offer?
I’ll give karenhynes until 630 pat to chime in for assistance on clue. After that all hands on deck!
Maybe I shouldn’t try this on a Friday night!
Ok, giving a clue, since I waited too long. This winery sources it’s wine from the same county a Dipsea and Tam.
@Winedavid49 Marin County - Kendric? I did see Stew make an appearance the other day with the Leoni offer. Or maybe McEvoy Ranch?
I’d be tickled pink if it was from Skywalker Vineyard
@klezman @Winedavid49
Dutton Goldfield would be a nice offering, too. They make some nice pinots.
@karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49
Klez is on a roll now!
Post-clue clue “Keep on Truckin’”
Next up?
Don’t take the world serious. Rhymes?
@Winedavid49
You may think my answer’s insane,
Not serious, I surely maintain,
But this clever girl,
Will give it a whirl,
And guess that it’s Limerick Lane.
Bea’s Knees from PWR?
@Winedavid49
@pseudogourmet98 should get points for creativity! Well done!
There are various clues. Top violin is another rhyme.
@Winedavid49
Hmmmm…are you taking us to Strad Meadery?
@Winedavid49
Did Kathy finally give in? Is it Fiddlehead?
@Winedavid49
Arius?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Ooh, so close! For the want of a Calc, a rhyme was lost!
next up? this is a big deal (for Costanza).
@Winedavid49
Alexander Valley Vineyards
@Winedavid49
Or a return of Seghesio?
@Winedavid49
George Wine Company?
@Winedavid49 you’re going to sell pepsi?
@Winedavid49 if you are selling beer…
Une Année Feats of Strength
@Winedavid49 The opposite? Karen take it from here.
I was in the pool vineyards?
@Turner103200
There’s no shrinkage winery, that I know of (I looked).
@karenhynes @Turner103200 different episode
@karenhynes @Turner103200 episode 86 to be exact.
@Turner103200 @Winedavid49
Epiphany Cellars?
Frank Family Vineyards?
I should have said “if you think like Castanza””
@Winedavid49
No, no. If I had checked back in before I left my son’s home, @Turner103200 and Karen’s comments would have triggered Little Vineyards. The pieces were all there.
@winedavid49. Just because there are NCAA March Madness games on, doesn’t mean you can slack off!
@MarkDaSpark
March madness baby! Besides we don’t keep anything from you. Comprende?
@Winedavid49
no kapish, nichts verstehe!
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
Well, it makes sense if one realizes that it’s Bizarro WD posting clues. So opposite of what he posts!
Equals “Secrets of the Sea”
I’ll keep trying.
Next up?
= kidtown
@Winedavid49
Hmmm, all I can think of is Disney, Chuck E. Cheese and goats. There are some Disney related wineries/vineyards, so I’ll throw a few out there;
MacMurray Estate Vineyards?
Fess Parker? Chappellet?
@chipgreen @Winedavid49 For reasons unknown to me, my first thought was Fiddlestix.
Where’s @karenhynes?
@chipgreen @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Just got home from dinner. My first thoughts (other than Disney) are Sesame Street or Mr Roger’s Neighborhood…
Not much time to ponder…
@Winedavid49
Buena Vista?
@Winedavid49
Coppola? (Disneyland of wineries?)
@karenhynes
Whatever, it should be entertaining.
Next up? And a pretty good singer.
@Winedavid49 No audience participation tonight? Well, that’s rather strange!
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
I abstained due to previous knowledge
@chipgreen @jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
Ahhh, yes. Didn’t even look here.
i can’t believe we called Clark Charles… foul!!
next up?
one of woody’s (and Bill’s).
@Winedavid49
Great Bear Vineyards
@Winedavid49
The Bruin by Irwin Family Vineyards
John Wooden & Bill Walton
@Winedavid49
Most likely, Altamura Family Vineyards & Winery
"Wooden Valley is a small, almost round valley, approximately two miles wide at its widest point and located 9 miles northeast of the town of Napa within the Napa Valley appellation. … “Wooden Valley was named for John Wooden, a giant among men at 6’8″ tall, who purchased the area in 1852”.
Hayes Ranch. Fits with Woody, not so much with Bill that I can figure out.
Think industry.
@Winedavid49
Alysian Wines
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
I think you nailed it and it sounds very compelling… dammit! How am I supposed to maintain even a half-assed SIWBM with all these great offers? I shake my fist in WD’s general direction!
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
NP, I feel almost cartoonish in my repeatedly failed attempts at a SIWBM!
ok, i need help on this one. please whisper me if interested. i’ll wait a bit just in case Karenhynes chimes in. help!!
@Winedavid49 Isn’t Karen writing these clues anyway? How about starting a new thread, such as A Clue You Ask 2019? This one doesn’t always condense, so it takes forever to scroll to the bottom.
@jmdavidson1 got Karen. Good idea on new thread.
@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49
Great idea on new thread. This one takes an eternity to load/refresh on my phone and tablet.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Instead of clicking on the name of the thread, just click on “…replied 5 minutes ago”. It takes you straight to the last post, which for this thread is where you want to go.
@jmdavidson1 @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
That’s what I do, but it still takes long to load.
@jmdavidson1 @karenhynes @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
A better/faster server would help solve that problem. Just sayin’…
@karenhynes @pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49 That doesn’t always work. Not sure why. The last 10 posts are supposed to be listed, but sometimes the whole thread is there.
Ok , with Karen’s help: same first name as Frenchman Noah.
@Winedavid49
Y. Rousseau Wines
@Winedavid49
YRosseau
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 Ding Ding Ding! Proper spelling!
Getting into copy editor mode for the next two weeks!
Too easy Karen!! My bad!
@Winedavid49
@WineDavid49. Tick, tock. Tick, tock!
No slacking off, just because your March Madness picks are down around 22 and @Dave is tied for 1st right now.
Arbor Mist!
Sorry, bad joke. :o
@Turner103200
Cru 32… gotta be an Olivia Jade joke in there somewhere!
@chipgreen I was just thinking the same thing!
I guess since @winedavid49 has moved up in the MM pool to #8, he forgot all about us.
@MarkDaSpark what do you think markdaspark can you lend a hand?
Take first question mark off last sentence.
@Winedavid49 I don’t even know where to begin!
This is a tough one. Markdaspaek suggested: “Not Dave Chappelle’s Voodoo Doo Doo 2nd Label?”
@Winedavid49
Glad it wasn’t me who fell asleep on you, but Markdaspaek !
@Winedavid49
My very convoluted thoughts have brought me to Titus. Still thinking though…
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Given it’s 4/1, seems like anything goes.
@Winedavid49
Tablas Creek?
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
Yes, this seems more likely.
@chipgreen @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Sorry, eating a very late dinner. I had sent 2 more hints, but I guess WD was busy too. Sorry.
2nd hint: Leaf from their 140 yr plus landmark tree was rumored to be original clothing.
3rd hint: We should all have a Wine stream/creek/river through our property.
@chipgreen @karenhynes @Winedavid49
“Not Dave” should have been in quotes.
Hugh Chappelle is the winemaker.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
@chipgreen @karenhynes @rjquillin
Thought more would remember Biodynamics discussion thread on old site where it was called VDDD (VooDoo DooDoo).
@chipgreen @karenhynes @Winedavid49
Daves Not Here
I did not give markdaspark enough time to give his second and third clue. Sorry sparky!
@Winedavid49
My fault too, enjoying a Pot Roast for dinner. Forgot to check back in time.
next up? i better get a clue in or i’ll be banished.
@Winedavid49
2016 Denner Vineyards Mother of Exiles
@Winedavid49 Outlier? only because you had Derek’s stuff on the previous site.
Outcast Wines?
@karenhynes
By jove, I think you’ve got it!
One of my favorite Zinfandels was a 2008 Caravel Reserve Zin made by Outcast Wines that flew under the radar of most Wooters at the time.
I still have 2 of the 4 bottles. I should really open one soon but then, I could say that about hundreds of wines.
Banshee Wines?
next up? origin of this wine … 200 hitter?
@Winedavid49
Are we venturing to Argentina tonight?
@Winedavid49 Line rhymes with wine.
@Winedavid49. Costco wine?
Willie Kirkland 1962 21 HR .200
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
A return of Laberinto Mendoza Malbec (old site).
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Definitely gotta be an Argentinian Malbec from Mendoza.
@chipgreen @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Indeed
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Should not have been so quick to assume Malbec, especially since I was just reading an article in Wine Enthusiast about how winemakers in Argentina are expanding their offerings of both reds and whites.
A trip to Argentinian wine country is definitely on my bucket list.
Close enough. The Mendoza line! One of the more humorous sayings in the game that have stuck around. It really means, to players, “great glove, no bat”. Mendoza the player was a superb defensive shortstop. The fact that he played and was a 200 hitter, is a testiment to his defensive prowess.
Good pull Karen.
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Next up? I bet This is one of to tony the tiger’s favorites. It’s certainly one of ours.
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C.G. di Arie?
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Whatever it is, it must be Grrrreat!
Even though he just had an offer, I’ll guess WineSmith since he obscures the UPC symbol on the back labels of his wines with a tiger.
Perhaps that Petit Manseng he talked about?
The only other wineries I can think of that fit and could be called “favorites” are Ty Caton because “Ty”, Leoni Farms because they have a big cat on their labels (although I presumed it to be a mountain lion), or Hahn Estates because they have a rooster on their label which is also the symbol for Kellogg’s who makes Frosted Flakes.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Maybe, although Chaim was responsible for Captain Crunch, not Frosted Flakes!
And a different company! CC is Quaker Oats, FF is Kellogg’s!
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Well, way back when, there was an Orange Wine called the Crusher up. So maybe a return of Don & Sons’ The Crusher (Chardonnay).
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49 ooooh…good point.
How about anyone sourcing from Kellogg Vineyard? Galerie?
You’re in charge for a bit. My salmon has arrived.
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Well, that was only a bit!
Hmm, this is considered an orange wine too:
Harvest Moon 2016 Estate Dry Gewürztraminer
And Harvest Moon has been up before!
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Ha! I’m dining alone tonight…Like a loser, with my bottle of Meadowcroft Pinot. I feel less loser-like with my nose in my phone than just staring off at nothing.
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Responsible for Cap’n Crunch? How so? That was my favorite cereal as a kid (with Crunch Berries of course).
@MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Old World Winery also made an orange Pinot Gris sold on WW (think I still have one) but that would not qualify as “one of our favorites” as per the clue. Don & Sons would though, so you might be on to something. Still, I am sticking with my WineSmith guess…
@karenhynes
You are not alone, you are dining with your virtual friends! Can I try a bite of that salmon?
@chipgreen
It was delicious!
@karenhynes
Was?
In that case you’ll have to get your own dessert!
@chipgreen
There’s more. I can order some for you. How quickly can you get here?
@karenhynes
I can be there in 6 hours!
@chipgreen
Well, they’ll be closed then, but there’ll be a new specials tomorrow.
BTW…I appreciate the company of my virtual friends at dinner.
@chipgreen
“Chaim then joined the Quaker Oats company where he helped develop the breakfast Cereal Cap’n Crunch. He moved to California to become Director of New Products at Del Monte Corporation where he created an array of new products including “Pudding Cups”, “Gel Cups”, “Yogurt Cups”, etc. In 1974 Chaim married Elisheva and founded Food Development Corporation, where he developed numerous new products including Hidden Valley Ranch Salad Dressing, Power Bars and Wine Coolers.”
@MarkDaSpark
Thanks! Gel cups?
@chipgreen. Da Google iz yur friend!
Thurl Ravenscroft was the voice of Tony. There’s a Ravens Croft Winery in Australia. Two international offers in a row?
@karenhynes. The longest voice of Tony, but he was the 2nd person to voice Tony. Dallas McKennon voiced from 1952–1953.
Another very strange guess. Please don’t ask me to explain how I got here…Gallo?
Hey! Did y’all know there’s such a thing as tiger bone wine?
@winedavid49, please let it NOT be that.
@karenhynes
Got to be a winery we are familiar with if it’s “one of ours (favorites) too”.
@karenhynes
There’s also Donkey & Goat
@MarkDaSpark
At least that’s made from grapes!
@karenhynes @MarkDaSpark Damn, Donkey & Goat would be amazing to have here, as would Broc Cellars!
@WineDavid49
@karenhynes @klezman @MarkDaSpark ok, on it.
@karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49
Sometimes I think the only reason WD does the clues is to get ideas for new wines!
@karenhynes @klezman @MarkDaSpark @Winedavid49
Not familiar with Donkey & Goat but enthusiastically second Broc Cellars who did appear on WW back in the day with some Grenache.
Grrrrruet!!
OMG! Best clue ever!!
@karenhynes
So obvious, I blew right past it!
@chipgreen @karenhynes
We all did!
Next up? I may very well be cursed at. Two in a row WD??? But it WAS specifically asked for so…
@Winedavid49 Corison?!?
@CorTot @Winedavid49
That would be lovely, but would kill my credit card right now.
“Two in a row”…
Two bubbles in a row (iron horse?)
Two “favorites” in a row? Two “auto buys”? (Soooo many possibilities here but we do know there’s more WineSmith in the works.)
Cursed at?
@Klezman did say just the other day “Damn, Donkey & Goat would be amazing to have here, as would Broc Cellars!” And WD replied “ok, on it”. Hmmmmm.
@CorTot @karenhynes @Winedavid49 Two in a row…like ducks? Duckhorn-related?
2 Favorites in a row!
next up? helped run by:
“i’m down on my knees, i’m begging you please”.
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Kent Rasmussen!
At this rate I am going to have to take out a second mortgage…
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Hmmmmm…Kent Rasmussen?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49 Kent Rasmussen and wife, Celia Ramsay, ran the family winery they started
https://kentrasmussenwinery.com/kent-rasmussen-history
@InFrom @Winedavid49
Yeah, I know, but that’s as close as I could get on my first guess.
@karenhynes Did you and @chipgreen basically simul-post? I was thinking your post was in reaction to his, but it seems inspiration struck you both around the same time.
@chipgreen @InFrom
I think we posted at the same time.
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Ah, but what wine?! If we get some of the real deal Pinot Noir I may be in trouble…
Not KR. Next clue daughter of winery owners and helps run the place.
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Enriquez?
@karenhynes @Winedavid49
Enriquez is a good guess. Another possibility…
Pedras Wine Company?
@chipgreen @Winedavid49
A very good possibility.
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Noceto?