I have some questions (they're easy, I promise)
6Mostly, things seem to be moving right along, although it’s kind of weird to have a forum without a main site. I’m guessing casemates.com will spring into existence seven days, or so, from now, on or after January 11th. Ah, yes, those pesky questions, I almost got distracted.
How will payments be handled? Over on wine dot woot, it was via Amazon Payments. On the sites here on Mediocre, it’s been through Meh, and American Express is content with their procedures (I’ve purchased multiple Morningsave items, and one Meh item, so far). Will it be Mediocre that handles Casemates wine purchases as well?
(Sorry, I may have lied about questions being easy.)
How long after ordering will it take until items are shipped? I’d forgotten that once I give up my money, I lose control of when things arrive at my house. I’m really not good at waiting. Actually, I’m pretty terrible at it.
There are more, but I’ll wait until these two are answered…
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@snapster or @dave or even @winedavid49 are you out there? Helloooooo…
@Shrdlu
/giphy "good at waiting"
@Shrdlu
Ok, that giphy is kinda funny, but it does not seem to describe you very accurately
/giphy impatient
Confirmed you are not good at waiting.
We won’t be using Amazon payments but their solution in combination with wine.woot was actually quite elegant in that Wineries were paid directly at the point of sale. Our exact method will have to be explained in more detail later but you’d use a credit card processor like Stripe.
Logistics is same as wine.woot was, because, well, it’s the same logistics. It takes a couple days for everything to process and then it ships. Probably Fed Ex Ground Residential with Adult Signature Required rigamoral. Origin is Sonoma.
@snapster I hesitate to point out (because I’ve already been pathetic about it once), but I am still waiting on nearly half the wine I bought over yonder. I grant you that the Two Jakes I’d purchased on the 18th said “Delivery by December 29th” (which I didn’t see until after I’d bought it, not that it would have stopped me). I even admit that all the others have delivery dates that are in January, starting with (tapping foot impatiently) the 4th, which is, after all, today…
Seriously, I’m okay with when things arrive. I’m very grateful that you stepped in on the Wine, because (don’t let this frighten you) I trust you more than Bezos. Much more.
Stripe’s a pretty decent choice. I hope that’s the one you go with.
I’ll lift a glass to you later this evening (Thurston Wolfe, Cabernet Sauvignon, 2013). Probably too small a place for you and WineDavid to bother with, but they make some very pleasant wines.
Thank you for the answers, and have a pleasant evening.
@Shrdlu It’s like Christmas where enough time goes by that I forgot I ordered something, and then I’m surprised when I see a missed delivery and it’s something I have to sign for… “what did I order?”
@snapster It’s a new question, and different from the others, I swear. I normally keep a low or zero balance on my credit cards, but usually just pay them off when I receive a bill. With all the wine purchasing, I’ve made payments two or three times in addition to just paying off the balance when the bill arrives, and I was content that this month things would return to normal… Until I remembered that this was January, and there are things that hit my Amex in January. I believe that the Kickstarter will also close in about a week, which means that it will also hit my card.
Here’s the question (it’s probably simple, but I can’t help asking it):
When the charges hit, are they just the amounts I’m expecting, or are there fees added on? I’ve never done anything with kickstarter before, and have no experience in this matter.
Is it okay for me to buy another remote party? I’ll be really sad if there’s some wine in it that’s wonderful, and I’ll only have one of them. Besides, I’d have six shirts, and I know at least that many people that would want them. (I’ve just realized that there’s no easy way to do this without setting up a separate account, and I’m way too lazy. Come on, people, there’s only a few left, and it’s a bargain.)
@Shrdlu what you bid is what you pay. Now as for a 2nd remote party pack. One way to do this is to make another kickstarter account. I
Seeing as they are limited in amount I don’t know of you could just double your pledge. This is something for @Dave , or @winedavid49, or @snapster
@Shrdlu What you pledge is what you pay. The fees are taken out of that amount.
To my knowledge, Kickstarter does not allow multiple rewards for a backer, so the only official way to get a second reward would be a second Kickstarter account, which probably means a second email address.
If you merely pledge an extra $100 it will allow oversubscription of the remote party pack. This is probably not a problem for the first few but I’m guessing that there are not an unlimited number of them available.
@Shrdlu It’s far different to add $60 for a year of free shipping as those are rather easy to make.
@jml326 and @baqui63: You guys are helpful, and also funny. Those last few lines of my original post above said that I’d figured out that buying a second remote party would require a second Kickstarter account. It was strange enough to set up one. There’s just no way I’d make a second one.
Besides, it feels like cheating, and that’s not something that would make me comfortable. I’m just sticking with the original $100 plus $60, and calling it good. Last I looked, there were still 70 of the remote party packs left. They sold at a pretty rapid pace the first day, but it’s slowed down quite a bit since then. The estimated delivery is January 2018; hey, did you know that we’re in that month?
I should also point out that the VMP standalone offer was sold out days and days ago. I keep seeing people say that they’ve just signed up, and I keep quiet. I dunno, maybe they’re seeing something I don’t.
For those brave souls who want to hang out in Sonoma in January, there’s still 31 slots left. I just now noticed that you can pony up an additional $50 per extra human, and bring a guest (or so).
Thank you both again. I have the answer I cared about. I’ll go drop the Amex to zero on Monday, which will be a few days before the other charges show up.
@Shrdlu
We’re seeing that when somebody drops the plan for whatever reason it becomes available to someone else. Until the closing date, there is the opportunity for movement on any of the offers.
Another comment on shipping/logistics. WCC utilizes a JIT system that is (IMHO) the most efficient and cost effective way to get wine from A to B (you). The order of importance is:
Late December shipments (on wine.woot) fall into the time of year we call “specific day” shipping. We’ve gotten to know the rhythm of our carriers and how they move packages across the country. Depending on what part of the US, we’ll often deliberately hold packages a few days so that the timing when the packages travel can be optimized. So transit times can take longer in the interest of wine safety.
We’ll adopt a similar policy once Casemates is launched.
@Winedavid49 Ah. So that’s why my case of WW Help Yourself spent an overnight in the middle of nowheresville Montana in a truck lot next to a Travel/America going from Sonoma to St. Louis.
I google mapped it and it is literally a truck stop and a holding lot with an exit. Maybe there’s a stop sign, but couldn’t tell from the overhead aerial view. I looked it up because id never heard of the <ahem> “town” and wondered WTF is my wine doing in Montana.
That said, it arrived safe and sound. Haven’t drankeneded any, as it’s for the counter tree, cooking, and gifting mostly.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81klYf5nVOL.SL1500.jpg
Sorry about the bad link. Can a volmod fix it?
TechTip: The link parser is truncating at the first period encountered instead of the last one, to check the extension for jpg/png etc. A good programmer would auto-strip Amazon’s embedding of image size info in the image file ‘name’. Then again, this is a Mediocre enterprise.
Utoh… @shawn, I think @mike808 is calling you out.
@baqui63
Those coder people prob just laze around on the weekends.
@Winedavid49 Okay, I’m excited, now. Four out of five remaining just got shipping notifications. :-}
Luckily, one of them is the additional Wellington Ports (I bought some, tasted it, realized the error of my ways, and bought more). Life is good.
@baqui63 good news for @mike808, he can fix the code at https://github.com/mediocre/mehdown and show us how good a programmer he is.
@shawn I don’t want to rob a Meh programmer who gets paid for that the joy of discovering the solution.
If I gave away my professional talents for free, there wouldn’t be a job at Meh for someone to do it and contribute to their local consumption economy . So in my own way, I’m doing my part to create jobs. You’re welcome.
@baqui63 I wasn’t calling @Shawn out. I was noting that since this is a Mediocre site, our expectations of technical excellence should be appropriately lowered. I was referring to the ‘nice-to-have’ part about removing the Amazon sizing from the image link, not the defect in extension parsing.
@shawn Here’s the offending code:
In lib/plugjns/images.js.
split() scans left to right. The first match is not guaranteed to be the last one. So why code like it is? You need to scan right to left (or reverse, strip before first match, then reverse again). If you can do Perl regexes, this is easy. JS, not sure. Haven’t coded in years.
P.S. You’re welcome.
@mike808 pop() gets the last element from the array, so this doesn’t seem like the offending code
@Winedavid49 While you’re here…any word on that missing Wellington random case I keep hearing about?
Also, I love that there is coding discussion of how this stuff is written.
@shawn actually, pop() gets everything after the first period from the split (). You’re forgetting about the implicit casting to a single element string object. Thats why the Amazon image link I pasted kept breaking. QED. Try it for yourself. It breaks every time. Ergo, the code is provably broken.
If it behaved as you claim, it wouldn’t be provably and repeatably broken, now would it?
@Winedavid49 Never mind…it showed up today without warning! Thanks for taking care of it, as always.
@mike808 Here’s a JSFiddle that proves Array.pop() returns the last element from the array as expected: https://jsfiddle.net/ack6atwf/
I haven’t looked into the root cause yet, but my guess is the two underscore characters are being interpreted as italic modifiers in Markdown before or after the image plugin is doing its work.
@klezman
anything interesting?
@rjquillin I posted it over in w.w. 2x 2013 Victory, PV, CF, and Sonoma Cab. 1x 2013 Malbec, Charlie’s Syrah, Meeks Zin, 1x 2012 Meeks Zin. A bit annoyed to have gotten the SC Cab instead of the listed bottles, but happy to have all reds and more PV, CF, and Malbec.
@klezman I need to remember to go back and look at those…
One of mine actually had three of the Vic’s.
@shawn ooh, good idea. Something else was splitting the URL before the image inline parsing fired.
Pre- and Post- processing exception flows are a PITA. <cough> XSLT <cough>.
@Shrdlu I’m jealous, I wanted that port, but it didn’t ship to Connecticut!
@shawn Here’s the orig link that breaks:
images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/
81klYf5nVOL._SL1500_.jpg
I had to escape the _s. Good news is that it is a size designator and can be removed. It also explains why the link is broken when it gets stripped somewhere in the parsing.
@rjquillin Lucky bastard
Got my shipment of the last Woot offer of Wellington and there was a CaseMates introduction inside. So, I just signed up. Look forward to the new community. Cheers, Scott Harvey
@ScottHarveyWine Hot dang!
Good to see you, and hopefully some offers, over here already.
Hard to believe WD hasn’t already twisted your arm tho…
Hi to Jana and Monica.
@ScottHarveyWine Hi Scott! Great to see you here. How did you like your selection of Victory (assuming that was the offer you are referring to)?
Hi Kluzman, I like this new format. Easy to navigate. Haven’t gotten a chance to try the Victory yet. Cheers
@ScottHarveyWine Here’s a couple of helpful hints. If you wanted to reply to someone, the easiest way is to just use the “Reply” link at the bottom of their post. It’s also important to use the “@” sign in the name, and then there’s spelling it correctly (replying would have automatically provided the link with his name, of course).
I’m tagging @klezman, here, so that he’ll see your reply. Luckily, I’m properly caffeinated, which provides some small measure of competency. :-}
I also am very happy to see you here.
While I’m thinking about it… @Dave, you appear to have signed me up for the announcement list, and I’m clear, after looking at my account, that I said I didn’t want it. Booo!!! (besides, I’d already purchased long before you sent that email).
Hey guys, how do insert a picture to a post and/or a giphy if you make a purchase?
@mkenny2307 hope this helps
https://meh.com/forum/topics/mehdown-slash-commands
@mkenny2307 also if on mobile turn your phone from portrait to landscape and more options should appear in typing area.
@mkenny2307 Okay, here’s the quick answers:
There are multiple slash commands, of which “/giphy” is one. They have to be at the beginning of the line, or they don’t work. If you look at the bottom line of your reply, you will see multiple things, including a little item you can click on, and which will allow you to attach images.
/giphy white roses
@jml326 @shrdlu Got it. Thanks. Works on my laptop. Was on mobile and no options showing up at all
@mkenny2307 switch between portrait and landscape on mobil
@jml326 Yeah, still doesn’t give me options, but I can just wait and use my laptop when I need to post pictures. Banking on not needing to upload pics in life or death situations on CM. Or I’ll just go imgur route in worst case scenarios
@mkenny2307
@mkenny2307 very interesting
So, for those of us that, due to day/time issues, have missed an offer, or just might be greedy and want more,
Will there be anything analogous to our dear beloved and departed money sucking W00t-Off’s we so enjoyed/hated on that old mothership dominated $$$ hungry site?
/sarcasm (in phrasing only)
@rjquillin I know nothing about the future of casemates, but you could jump into the local thread (or start one if no one has for your area) and ask people near you if they have bottles from previous offerings that they’d be willing to sell/swap. I know that I ended up with more bottles of the first one than I was really hoping for and would be happy to make room for something new and shiny.
@arielleslie local like San Diego or Greater SoCal?
There is a bit of a blend between the two; I’m SD.
Likely we could just post there rather than add yet another thread, we’re already exchanging sharing thoughts on both of the above threads.
I’ve also seen a lot of activity in the individual offer threads regarding sharing.
Would either of those potential solutions seem to work for what you are asking?
@snapster posted earlier they are working on setting up some sharing capability, but, as you know, for now we’re on our own.
Okay, here’s a tough one (I’ll come back much later, but don’t want to forget all the details). I just bought a Malbec that looked interesting, and went to add it in over on Cellar Tracker. Hah! I am ready to yell for help…except that no one within earshot is going to be able to help.
It’s from Mexico. I even have the page it’s on.
http://www.megauva.com.mx/productos.html
Pity I have no espanol (although I had at least enough to get past the age requirement). The Malbec’s about halfway down the page:
Anyone have a suggestion? I don’t see anything that looks like a vintage on it. I got the web site from the back label. Back in a few hours. Hopefully someone else has seen it before.
@Shrdlu
View: burgundy violet
Nose: raspberry, plum
Mouth: soft, kind tannins
Pairing: canapés, sandwiches, mature cheeses, red meats, chocolate.
Serving temperature: 18 ° C
Alcohol
content : 12% Packaging: Bordalesa 750ml.
Looked at your link, as you probably gathered those are tasting notes – appearance, nose, palate, suggested pairings. Nothing about a vintage. My suggestion, given that CT comes up empty, is to shoot an email to the Help folks. I’ve found them to be – helpful.
@InFrom and @catcoland: Thanks to both of you for the suggestions. I suspect that a non-vintage wine that I bought out of curiosity is not really worth adding to CT. It was $12.99; I’ll open it tonight, and see. I’ve been known to take a bottle outside and give it to the roses, more than once. Any review I do will probably just be here.
@Shrdlu It may not be vintage, but it’s a good year for the roses?
@InFrom Turns out this one graduated to rose food right after the first sip. Roses do like an acidic soil, and I was happy to make the offering. I also like George Jones. :-}
If you take a label photo (assuming ct doesn’t recognize the bar code) and use it to try to add the wine in cellar tracker with the mobile app you are given the option to have them find it for you. I had good results with some bottles my daughter brought me from a trip to the Azores last year. I got an email very quickly from Andrew Hall newwine@cellartracker.com
While I’m thinking about it, is it possible to buy two of the offering (on the 3 or 4 bottle offering, and maybe on the case too)? I would have purchased more of the Kent Rasmussen offering, if I could have figured out how. I almost bought the case (and I’m a bit sorry that I didn’t).
I’m expecting bad news (as in, “No, you have to buy a case”), but hoping for the best.
@Dave @Snapster @WineDavid49
@Shrdlu right now you buy one time. Either a case or a small bottle pack. Unless you want to create multiple accounts and pay shipping. The other option is to find Casemates in your area who don’t want the wine and have them buy and hold it for you.
@snapster @winedavid49
Enhancement request…
In the listing, include the UPC; it’s easy.
I realize some bottles don’t have one, but most do.
Yeah, it’s a geeky request, but it would not only help those of us that use CT, but assist in assuring we find the correct CT link where there may be a couple of options.
The Stewart is a good example, where they have two CS offers that are similar.
Thanks guys.
This is evolving and shows great promise with a bit of tweaking.
Glad the WW phoenix arose here.