How’s everybody’s long weekend going? Assuming it is a long weekend, that is. I have tomorrow off, molarchae isn’t so lucky. Also, none of us are particularly lucky with a mini-outbreak of coxsackie virus in our house.
@jasisk I call it a rj45 Port. Sometimes I call it a jack, usually I don’t refer to it cause nobody I would ever say it to knows what it is, cause luddites.
@klezman I’m being invaded this weekend. MIL and GMIL are coming for the weekend. Since my FIL gets to stay in SD by himself, it’s 3-4 Canadian to US born… so I get to keep my slim majority.
Fucking hell. A bottle of icewine slid between the racking on the wine fridge. 5 feet up from the floor. The tile-on-concrete floor. That’s the second bottle that shelf has claimed.
Watching the outtakes is helping take the pain away from my stupid rolled ankle. It’s a poorly designed joint. Also, drinking Help Yourself. It’s helping too.
@bhodilee I normally wear ankle braces but didn’t tonight because I’m trying new inserts and it would make my shoes too tight. Dang. It’s not a good sign when one has to wear so much equipment…
I’m editing tables for my phd thesis. Also I almost bought the launch shirt then realized that the kickstarter backers will get a similar shirt in a different color.
Can someone explain how to get back to the main listing of threads after viewing one? Whenever I view one, I keep having to manually scroll back to the top, and then click the “Community” button, and then click the “Casemates” link.
@arielleslie So basically, no buttons or links? Have to manually delete from the address? Though I suppose just using the main link as a favorite in my favorites bar would also work. Guess that’s the only way to actually navigate this website.
@HitAnyKey42@snapster Exactly why it was asked earlier for the addition of top and home buttons, for those lacking physical mice and physical keyboards.
@HitAnyKey42 I learned rather quickly that the first click on the “community” button opens the menu for the various Mediocre communities. A second click on that same button takes you to the forum main page for the site you’re on. I agree it’s confusing. @dave@snapster maybe this is something we can add more links for? It’s also something I’d rather not have to scroll back up to the top to do every time.
@snapster Nah, Ron is just saying he usually uses his tablet for this stuff so he finds it annoying to have to scroll around so much. (It takes some time to learn to decipher Ron )
@klezman I concur. Too much scrolling…A “back to top” that moved with the scrolling of the page would be splendid. No idea how easy/hard that is, but might be a simple approach?
@vaaccess@klezman@rjquillin First, if you’re using Android (tablet or phone), then skip to the end of this. If you are NOT using Android, you shouldn’t settle for anything BUT this. Website posted script-buttons do scrolling slower and of course are more variably located. Instead, learn these and be done looking for buttons:
Mac Desktop Safari browsing options: CMD + (up/down arrow), or space to go down one page at a time and shift-space to go up one at a time.
Windows Desktop (all browsers?) browsing options: Home, End, Page Up, Page Down, or space to go down one page at a time and shift-space to go up one at a time.
iOS Devices: just tap top of your phone to scroll back up to top. just above URL entry bar.
Now for Android. You could definitely use a button if we add one at some point because your options don’t seem to include a shortcut. You’re probably always searching for buttons since you don’t have a native “go to top” OS function.
Here’s your best solution:
In our use case, for these forums, simply hit the back button on your browser. In one step you’re back to what you might want versus 2. If you do want a refreshed view then hit refresh.
If you have an old device with a hardware back button, perhaps this is even more enjoyable UI than going back to the top in order to click something there to send you back to the forum thread list.
maybe worth mentioning - on mac desktop I actually don’t always use the shortcut I posted because the touch-pad-top-of-mouse scrolling is so frictionless and fast I use it instead.
OK, too many posts in one thread that made me chuckle out loud - bowtie, really, I thought the exact same thing re ether, including the ae. HAK and others, as posted previously, filtering is your friend - play around a bit to set it up so you see your favorite threads… Cesare - really?! …and Mark, where do you find this stuff?!
@vaaccess I thought maybe that was a thing you could do, but maybe it is a thing you cannot do, but would be a handy thing you could do if you could do that thing.
@bhodilee I was literally just trying to figure out where to post this same question. Well, I didn’t miss the kickstarter coupon, but I am trying to figure out how/where to get the 3 $10 coupons from the WCC email…
P.S. As WCC insiders, when you back the campaign for $60 — the “1-year Free Shipping” reward level — you’ll get half that value back in the form of three $10 coupons valid through the end of 2018 on Casemates.
I submitted a request to customer service, as noted in another thread. I just got an email back asking if I had created an account or responded to the survey… uh, yes, my account was included in the initial form, as was my email address, and I have the badges
I, got my Little today and found out that there are other denizens of my State on here, which makes me feel territorial. I’ll be peeing on light poles henceforth.
So the pub over on ye olde website is relatively vacant. Why not post over here? What are y’all up to this long weekend? We’re taking the toddler to the Sierras! Should be interesting…
@klezman Headed up to lake arrowhead over the 3 day weekend. Headed to a dodger game tonight. Gave my 6 year old tickets for his birthday since he just got off his first year of tee ball which he really liked.
@chipgreen@CorTot I should get my butt out there for some camping. We also just got the Interagency Annual Pass…so lots more car camping for us this coming year!
@ddeuddeg
If the picture is correct I don’t like those, they have a flat edge at the lip which catches a few drops of wine when you pour then the wine follows that edge to the bottom and leaks off the back.
I started a new job while I"m finishing my thesis. I’m working at Sheldrake point winery on cayuga lake in their tasting room, so if you want to taste the best rose in NY state stop on by.
Love me some homemade pesto! What all do you put in “garden” pesto? Or is it just that the basil comes from your garden? Also, how do you store it? I usually freeze in ziplock bags and would be interested other options.
@pseudogourmet98 Just basil from the garden. Basil, olive oil, pine nuts, salt, garlic, a drop or two of lemon juice, pecorino Romano, and Parmigiano Regiano.
But then the final dish also includes tomatoes from the garden.
@pseudogourmet98 We freeze some of it in ice cube trays. Once frozen, put the cubes in plastic bags or containers, so you have easier access to smaller portions. We also put some in 1/2 pint jars, which is about enough for when we are making it for whole family.
Hi Guys! Through the years, those of you who hung in the old CyberPub heard tell of our visits with Cousin Bob near San Francisco and Cousin Alice near LA. Apparently, about 3 weeks ago, Bob was having problems breathing. He went to the hospital and after some tests and draining of fluid, they found that he had Stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Bob passed Monday night at the age of 87. I am glad that we had a chance to see him one last time this summer before the RPM tour.
@bahwm So sorry to hear that. At least he didn’t have to endure months/years of suffering. I had an Uncle Jim in England who went similarly. Thought he had the flu because of an upset stomach. When it didn’t get better after a week or so he went to the doctor and ended up having end-stage stomach cancer and was also gone in about 3 weeks.
@chipgreen Yeah, saw that one as well. I told my office wine friends, if that Goldman CEO had stuck to Pedroncelli, none of this would have happened!
I feel bad for those newly-minted somms who passed the test legitimately, only to have it snatched away. The thought of going through all that again must be horrible to contemplate. (Hopefully not enough to make any of them jump out a window of the Carlyle.)
@chipgreen@InFrom
Just heard this on NPR on my way home this evening. Not only is it sad to have the credential snatched away, but will also have significant financial impact as well. With the Master Somm they can earn three times as much (on average).
I want to dry age some beef at home. Anybody want to help us with a “practice” cut? I was thinking of getting a prime striploin or rib subprimal from Costco and aging it for ~40 days. That way when the bone-in ribs make their appearance around xmas time I’ll be confident.
Anybody want to go in on the test round? The whole slab is usually in the $125 range depending on the day. We can sample the results (and even take multiple different ages if we want) for a nice dinner & wine gathering, probably near to Thanksgiving time.
Had to go down to the barrio yesterday to pick up dome fresh coffee, swmbo wanted to hit some Asian markets for supper last night. There was a commercial Costco on the way and I wanted some capers, at a decent price.
We wandered back to the meat area; yikes!
Huge cuts of nearly everything, not the household size offerings at the local outlets. Entire legs and shoulders of lamb at Costco pricing. Would have to acquire some major cooking implements to deal with some of these. Still, amazing to see the cuts.
How you thinking of doing the aging?
From what I’ve read, limited, it takes good temperature and humidity control with adequate air circulation to be successful.
@CorTot@rjquillin@ScottW58
Most stuff I’ve read agrees that a fan inside either a bar fridge or a freezer with an adjusted thermostat does the job well. Some also add a tray of salt to help act as an air desiccant. They key seems to be to ensure that the crust properly develops in the first few days.
Whole lamb shoulders sounds great. I wonder if there’s a commercial Costco near me…although it’s hard to suggest a full 109A rib is a household size.
@klezman tough to commit here, it sounds fun though! We’ll be around before thanksgiving but I’ll be out of town the week after. I’ve never dry aged a steak and wouldn’t know where to start. But I bet there’s a YouTube video for that.
@CorTot Mostly looking for people to help split the cost at the moment and then we’ll make sure all can attend the sampling! We’re also most of Channukah, so there will be some wrangling. Dec 15 weekend is a likely good time, and could double as a kiddo birthday shindig! (What two-year old doesn’t like a good dry aged steak?)
@ScottW58 The 100+ day aged rib steak at APL restaurant might change your mind
But I figured at least you’d be in because you could use some of the remaining cooler space when we do another round in December/January! Also, we need to get together to eat/drink. We can do weekend of Oct 26-28 or Sunday of next week. Next Saturday has no guarantees since I’ll be getting off a flight from Switzerland on Saturday.
Also, happy birthday to your lovely SWMBO! I hope she at least took today off!
@radiolysis Used to purchase from Pannikin, wholesale, when they existed. The roaster split off from the retail outlets after some fracas and is now known as Cafe Moto. Still purchase wholesale. This all started around '69 or '70. Settled in on a dark roast blend they call Blue Sky. I like a darker roast, but had to compromise with swmbo. We do #5 of beans every 3~4 weeks or so.
@chipgreen@klezman
I can attest to that. When my husband and I were in SoCal a few years ago we were treated with open arms by the woot contingent. I was just telling someone the other day about it and they were dumbfounded. “Wait. You’re telling me that you were thousands of miles from home, you got into a car with some people you only knew from an internet chat, you let them take you to the house of another person you only knew from the internet (and you didn’t know exactly where that house was), and you lived to tell about it?” Yes! And we met some wonderful people and had a fabulous time, and I would do it again in a heartbeat!
@klezman
Sadly, not likely anytime soon… best chance would be if there is a 2019 RPM Tour. For now I will have to continue to live vicariously through the postings of yourself and others!
@chipgreen@klezman@pseudogourmet98 Right after the first rpm tour in 2008, we were making plans to attend a SoCal auxiliary tasting in Las Vegas, where we knew we’d be seeing some of the friends we made on the tour. The tasting was to be at the home of one of the people who had been posting regularly on the w.w blog, but whom we hadn’t met. We mentioned this at dinner in Buffalo with a bunch of friends, a few weeks before the tasting, and they were aghast.“You’re going to Las Vegas to a wine tasting at the home of an internet friend?” We talked about it on the way home; after all, just a few months earlier, we had sent a check to some (then unknown) guy in Michigan for a tour that, on its face would have seemed pretty sketchy to a lot of people. The tour happened and we had a fabulous time. But here we were, heading across the country to hook up with some “internet friend”, something we have for years warned our students never to do. We flew out after school on Friday, had a great time, flew home on Sunday, never missed a day of work. A few months later, we were back in Las Vegas getting married, but that’s another whole story. Life is beautiful.
On the way, with TimB and the German girl, to Cathy’s (Corison) for a dinner and tasting tomorrow. Looking forward to that and a scheduled tasting visit with Anthony Bell.
Warning Rambling Rant:
I know it has been a while … things have been crazy. The end of August I fell at work. While at car duty (where we open car doors for our car riders) I managed to fall off the curb and fall full force on my knee. I proceeded to load up a few more kids before I realized how bad it was. That night my knee swelled up to about the size of a softball. Long story short. That was a Thursday afternoon,Friday I went to Disney for the weekend and walked/limped about 10miles each day. I think that helped keep things from totally stiffening up. The following Tuesday I decided I should go to the dr. ended up having to go to the Work mans comp doctor, which is a min. 45 min drive from school… depending on the traffic it could take up to an hour to get to. I call them Quack in a box. I not nice place. The doctor actually touched my open wound on my knee without washing his hands. The nurse didn’t clean my wound before she applied more antibiotic ointment… the list goes on… After 5 weeks, they finally decided I needed a MRI. I don’t know how I managed, but I did not tear, chip or break anything! They finally decided to send me to an orthopedist! Only took them 6 weeks. Then it took a week to get into the specialist. So this week I go back to the quack, their computers are acting up and they can’t access my file. The Doctor comes in, I tell him I went to the Orthopedic Dr. and this guy says “oh, then you don’t come here anymore” Seriously? I reminded him that he is the one that sent me to the other… he said "well, we don’t know when you will get your appointment… I pointed out that it would have been good information to give a patient that if they can get an appointment with the specialist before their appointment with the quack … to call and cancel! I am so not happy… Anyhow, I go back to the orthopedic doc in 2 weeks. My knee is still got a healing scar and is swollen… but it is much better… If I knew about all the crap and crappy care, I would have to go through with the workman’s comp, I would have gone to my own doctor and paid out of pocket.
Rant/rambling over thanks
@InFrom yup. I’ve been worki ng. I make sure to get my dr appointment for as late as possible. Not fair to everyone I work with to not be working. I did find out, it would have been quite easy to have the doctors write me a note saying I couldn’t work… they kept asking me if I wanted them to give me restricted hours and duty. No wonder why so many abuse the system.
I clicked on a link here (well, on the TO Mystery Case offer) regarding Kent Rasmussen post on PS Dumb phase, and it didn’t show. I then went to the forums, and they’re missing.
Says “Oops! That page doesn’t exist or is private.”
@bahwm Seeing that there are different websites for Brandini and B Toffee (and different names in the “Story” pages of the two sites), I would venture that they are not the same.
@bahwm@rjquillin not connected. Brandon of Brandini was put off by us working with another toffee house when we went full gourmet… gone radio silent since then… a pitty (and petty!).
@rjquillin@Winedavid49 So sad. Seriously lame and unfortunate for us, because I thought we got some pretty good deals from them and a great QPR. On another note, they don’t hesitate to send emails about some of their offers!
@bahwm@klezman@rjquillin@Winedavid49
Yeah pretty lame but I gotta say when I got the email from them I jumped on it it’s not my fault that you got me hooked on crack!
@rjquillin@Winedavid49 More specifically to WD: I’m pretty sure that you never signed any document that said that you would ONLY sell Brandini toffee. Time for some people to grow up!
@bahwm@rjquillin he is young and he stepped back after I told him about the demands of gourmet. But still no deal. A bummer considering we honestly help launch the brand.
@karenhynes Got mine and worried what
withdrawn-mountainous-ramen
may invoke.
Already have an Anova, but grabbed these to do circuit board cleaning with some warm IPA.
These look like they may be better for shallower vessels and not requiring as much (height/depth) liquid; at least hoping that’s so.
@karenhynes@rjquillin I’ve been thinking of getting one so I got two (other will likely become a gift). Like @rjquillin my order confirmation of sore-boiling-idea was somewhat unsettling.
Well, we found out this is our first Thanksgiving in forever that it will be just our super immediate family. Which is good because my bathroom renovations will not be finished before Thanksgiving.
ScottW, I hope you, your family, friends and co-workers are all safe and unharmed after last night’s shooting rampage. I wish we could find a way to curb gun violence in America.
@chipgreen It’s close to home, but thankfully not that close. (Closer for Scott, but also not that close.) Me, I’m more worried about another anti-Semitic synagogue attack closer to home.
@chipgreen
Thanks Chip! Fortunately as Adam said we were not that close. And thankfully after telling my kids for years that nothing good happens out there after midnight they don’t go out very often to hang out at night spots with there friends.
@karenhynes No issues at the far south end, yet.
Wondering about @scottw58, gotta be close to him, but thinking it’s downwind.
Sad to see the Paramount Ranch go.
Have many fond memories of the Southern Ren Faire right next door in Agoura.
@karenhynes@rjquillin
Lost is that you? I live in Sherman oaks not thousand oaks, it’s pretty far from us and the wind is going away from our house. But thanks for the thoughts!
Went to the hockey game last night. Leafs dominated the Kings! Awesome!
I’m seeing a cup in the not-crazy-distant-future for the first time in 25 years…
My meadowcroft wine order has been getting a tour of IL it has at this point hit chicago twice, and at least 2 more IL cities. Anyone else have this problem with casemate order?
I mean if it comes with fun people to drink with sure, but in this case, I just want it to get here. At which point do I call fedex and request them to send out search dogs
@bahwm@klezman@rjquillin
I miss the old pub, too. I was much more of a reader than a poster, but I will endeavor to change that. I wish they could pin this at the top as a reminder to “chat”.
@bahwm@karenhynes@rjquillin We just need to make sure it’s always near the top so it doesn’t get lost!
It would be nice to have a larger “sticky” sort of thing, but this isn’t quite built in a way that facilitates it. It’s getting harder and harder to keep the community thriving…hopefully @dave@shawn and @snapster are paying attention…what made that other site special was the community more than the deals…
Happy Holidays and upcoming new year! And happy upcoming russian christmas! I also miss the old pub/site community. Couldnt we sticky the pub? There are just too much posts/information
@rjquillin
Thanks, I’m just glad they are fun to watch again. Maybe next year. Also sorry for you San Diegoans (?) - Chargers leave town and suddenly get good, ugh.
@chipgreen But hey, Ohio did quite well today!
Good game.
Chargers? I’ve not watched a game now in over a year. Spanos burned down that bridge long ago.
Now that Anthony is gone from Bell, it’ll be difficult to justify those purchases as well; as Spanos is a part owner and that connection we had on tour is diminished with AB leaving.
@bahwm@rjquillin A warm and rainy end to the year. Counting down with a nice fire in the fireplace, red wine in the glass, and Champagne chilling. Happy New Year to all!
@bahwm W00t!, err, Ca$e!
currently 7C here in not-so-sunny SoCal.
Well, it is nighttime.
High tomorrow, 15C.
I’ll be enjoying the interior of the lab, running thermal-vac on the 2020 Mars rover cameras, but drinking vicariously with you.
@rjquillin Kind of sounds amazing, what you’re doing. Not a lot of drinking today–prepping for the choir party at our house tomorrow. Icewine Festival is next weekend.
Our choir party last night went really well. ddeuddeg and I are both exhausted! He did most of the cooking. I did a few little time-consuming things and got the house looking nice. Here was our menu:
@ScottW58 No, I didn’t take a pic, but that’s a recipe that we make frequently. It’s soooo easy! But it usually takes about 2-2.5 hours to make. Whisper me your email address and I’ll send you a copy. It comes from a cookbook called “Great Foods Without Fuss”.
@ScottW58 The pork roast cooks in butter and oil with peppercorns, bay leaves, salt, and red wine vinegar. We baste it every half hour. The first time we made it, we were little piggies–we ate a whole two-pound roast in one sitting! But, it was soooo good! Now, we get two dinners and one lunch out of it!
@karenhynes Wow! I had no idea! Just don’t make the Brussels Sprouts recipe from that cookbook! We love Brussels Sprouts, but that recipe was gross! It has to be really bad for us to say that! We love our veggies!
@bahwm
Hahaha! There’s a zero percent chance I’d make Brussels Sprouts from any cookbook.
I’ve tried them many different ways and just can’t make myself like them.
@bahwm@chipgreen@karenhynes If you have an Instant Pot try this recipe, best sprouts ever. These have converted even the most strident anti-vegetarians and meatavores I know.
@karenhynes I keep all of my credit card numbers as part of my LastPass information (along with all of the random passwords for logging onto any site) so I have them available wherever. Really helps.
a friend of woot and casemates Ty Caton was involved in a very bad car accident over the weekend.
Ty should be ok, but others in the accident are in serious condition.
@Winedavid49 Oh my! Accident looks terrible. I hope all involved will be okay. Like many here I’ve met Ty in his tasting room and seems a fine man. Prayers.
@rjquillin
Yes, they’re all the rage - hard seltzer notwithstanding. We sampled some canned Rose at Point of the Bluffs Vineyards during our recent Finger Lakes vacation.
@rjquillin Not a fan. We have a restaurant that was just opened by some friends of ours. It’s called The Chicken Shack and can be quite irreverent! But, they make some mighty fine chicken there! Nothing fancy. They have gone the route of canned wines. There was a distributer there doing a tasting. One red was passable by our standards. One white might have been passable, but it wasn’t chilled properly. When given those options, we go with beer. Local, draught beer, if possible!
@chipgreen@InFrom@rjquillin@ScottW58 A couple of years ago we stayed a few nights in a really cool boutique hotel in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada. They serve “breakfast in bed”. Well, they bring your breakfast at around the designated time and you may choose where you would like to eat it in your room–they do provide two comfy chairs with a cute side table between. I digress. But they do include freshly squeezed OJ and we knew it. So, we picked up some bubbly in cans at one of the local wineries or at the LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario). It made for VERY nice mimosas!
@bahwm@chipgreen@InFrom@rjquillin
Now that sounds like a good use for a canned wine but for me that situation does not come up often enough to actually seek out and buy canned wines.
Hey, it’s still wine in a can, I didn’t hold it to that high a standard. Or any standard, really. I learned after the fact that he carbonated after the fact. It was enjoyable despite all of the above. And some good reading on the can, and on the site. https://shop.bonnydoonvineyard.com/product/La-Bulle-Moose-de-Cigare-4-pack
PRODUCTION NOTES
This wine began life as a batch of Vin Gris de Cigare, that is to say, fermented in stainless steel, and held on its lees post-ferment and subject to rigorous and systematic bâtonage (lees-stirring). The wine was carbonated just prior to canning to a refreshing degree of fizziness just below the legal threshold (.392 g/100 ml of CO2 ) of the confiscatory/onerous sparkling/ luxury wine tax. (While it is thoroughly plausible to claim that sparkling or even “fizzy” wines tend to make people experience a momentary relief from their worldly troubles, it does not necessarily follow that the experience of this momentary pleasure should perforce be taxed at a rate significantly higher than beverages that do not enjoy an equivalent level of effervescence, i.e. “table wine.” The Puritans remain with us still, as it were… )
@rjquillin Yeah, that’d be nice.
Also easier ways to get people to respond to ongoing gathering threads. I still haven’t heard from Bill over in the SoCal thread!
Problem is that you no longer can have competitions regarding post counts (who can get to the next 1,000 post level) and other tomfoolery we used to have.
It also helped having people post late night (ala TommytheCat, Cheron98, Nallie, etc.), and jwhite posted morning recaps.
Along with the usual “Good night, jwhite6114. Good work. Sleep well. I’ll most likely kill you in the morning.”, from Nallie.
Would any sane person (here) actually consider purchasing one of these Plum things at somewhere between $1500~$2000?
But, to it’s credit, it has a quad core 1.2GHz processor and a gig of ram and dual 2 mega pixel cameras and is well connected, 2.4 GHz b/g/n wireless, or wired.
What, no fiber?
And a 1024 x 600 IPS display just to tell you what bottle(s) you put inside.
Just to dispense wine?
They even offer a Zalto as an accessory.
Looking at ya @scottw58
@rjquillin It looks like someone saw a Coravin and thought: “you know what, that isn’t real luxury… People who don’t live in gated communities can afford those, we need something more exclusive.”
As someone who has drank at establishments with crappy tap lines, and have worked behind the bar, this machine is worthless without addressing that.
Hell, take a page from the espresso machines and sell a custom descaling (in this case, cleaning) bottle that you hook up after every use (revenue streams hooray!) to carefully make sure your little wine computer is pristine.
Right? It has one spout for two wines? What happens in between white and red pours? Does it discharge some water through the lines that goes into a separate resevoir? No? Then you are like a middle-schooler at a soda fountain putting every option in the cup.
(Plum can send me a prototype after taking my suggestions to heart… I promise to report back!)
“This has probably been the hardest year in my career for selling wine,” said Alison Smith Story, co-owner with her husband, Eric Story, of Smith Story Wine Cellars, also based in Sonoma County. Like many small wineries, Smith Story relies on its relationships with independent growers, the same people being pinched by the grape oversupply and the fallout of the Constellation-Gallo deal. They decided to maintain their support of family growers despite sluggish demand and the pressure on their own profit. In a more robust market, they might have purchased more grapes. Smaller wineries that depend on direct-to-consumer sales have also been hurt by a decline in tourism to Northern California wine country over the past two years because of wildfires.
@InFrom@rjquillin Good on Ali to get quoted in here. It should bring them some publicity and hopefully sales.
One thing that goes unmentioned is how much more expensive California wine is compared to its equivalents around the rest of the world.
But on the (maybe) bright side, perhaps @WineDavid49 is working on ways to get some excellent surplus juice into Woot Cellars, ahem Casemates Cellars bottles for us.
here’s a random request. does anyone remember the simple wood 12 bottle counter top wine rack sold on the old site (it was part of a case offer) way back when? if so, can you produce a picture of it? we can’t find any !
@karenhynes This (the first one) bears a strong resemblance to the one that came in the case deal. Mandolina, that’s a nice blast from the wine.woot past!
@karenhynes You are spot on!
Mandolina Italian Varietal Case with Wooden Wine Rack
Mar '09 - Mandolina Italian Varietal Case with Wooden Wine Rack $154.99 + $5 shipping Condition: Varietal Products: 1 Mandolina Italian Varietal Case 1 Wooden Wine Rack…
Well, it’s happened.
Banned from work, with no hint when I’ll be able to return.
Not sick, or symptomatic, nor is anyone else at work.
Just seems I’m in the more highly susceptible demographic that is now being discriminated against working.
Am I pissed? You bet, and then some!
@rjquillin Pain in the ass, yes. Necessary evil, also yes. The biggest mistake we can make is treating this as less serious than it is. Not alarmist, just being realistic and acknowledging the math here.
Confirmed cases in LA County have been going up by 30-50% daily. Obviously part of that is due to testing ramping up finally, but keep in mind that the true number of cases is somewhere between 10-500x the number of confirmed cases.
And yeah, you’re in the demographic that’s not just at elevated risk, but at massively increased risk.
It sucks that your job is not something one can do remotely, but I also thought the bunny suits could help keep things going there.
Read this: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca. Not alarmist. Just math.
We’ve got at least 5 weeks without kiddo at school and the nanny has a cold (not a coronavirus) so we don’t even have her to look after the baby. We also both have full time jobs to attend to. This is screwing up life for just about everybody.
@klezman@rjquillin@ScottW58 My work site closed their doors to all but critical staff late last week. We are all wfh for the foreseeable future. Wife and kids also home. At least we won’t be running out of wine!
@hscottk@rjquillin@ScottW58 We’ve not mandated work from home, but we are encouraging it. In our huge office space we now have about 200 square feet per person who shows up each day.
@hscottk@klezman@rjquillin
Well my first day working from home and I gotta say that I’m liking this! After I got everything setup anyways also it doesn’t hurt that I don’t really like people
@rjquillin my office did the same thing. Sent all those 65+ home. I think it’s the right call.
whats especially difficult is that demographic is often times less tech savvy with the current work from home set ups so its a big adjustment.
@CorTot@Winedavid49@pseudogourmet98
Video, that would be boring.
Here is the company site with some pics of older cameras.
The site hasn’t been updated with newer stuff.
Another link to an article and video (of sorts)
taken with one of our cameras on Curiosity Rover from Mars.
I’ll see if I can dig up something a bit more interesting.
Today, (actually May of 2018) the Planetary Society posted a blog about the Mastcam-Z hardware in the process of being built at MSSS, including many photos taken here at our company:
Thank you to Mike Ravine for supplying Mastcam-Z images, and to Ravine, Greg, Shaun and Ron for allowing and helping me take pictures in the hardware lab here at MSSS. Last but not least, thank you to Mike Malin for his editorial input to the piece.
My work is still operating normally ( with precautions in place) however I have chosen to relocate from Salt Lake City now that community spread has started happening, to my vacation home in south eastern Idaho in a small town of less than 500 residents. Fortunately for me I can conduct business there as I just need phone, computer and internet which I have.
Stay home stay safe and we should all come out the other side in a month or so I hope.
Wow, I didn’t realize the CyberPub was still alive and well on Casemates. It may be the only pub that’s open for the next 2-3 weeks, at least where I’m at. And I hate to admit it but I’m going to have a glass right now even though it’s only 4pm. My happy hour is starting early today. Cheers and hope everyone is doing okay.
@WCCWineGirl if i recall the original wine girl on the other site that won’t be mentioned (REALLY good beer cheese on there right now) played an early role in the CyberPub! cool beens.
@Winedavid49 I’m planning to go back to 30 Rock. Also, not a TV show, but a nice diversion if you like that kind of thing, the Metropolitan Opera is streaming one old broadcast per day, for 24 hours. “La Fille du Regiment”, today’s offering, is fun.
I’ve also been meaning to check out “The Good Place”. I think this list from the NYT should be viewable, they’ve dropped the paywall for all things coronavirus.
@InFrom@winefarm will love the Opera suggestion! good call on 30 Rock. We are going to view a few old Taxi episodes to see if it still holds up and if our 15 year old would like it. stay tuned.
@CorTot@InFrom@ScottW58@Winedavid49@winefarm I am with Cory in looking for lighter fare. Seems most of the original series on Netflix or Prime are dark. I breezed through The Mandolorian, also grim and IMO not much fun. Should have named it The Baby Yoda Show, the Mandolorian was supporting cast.
I’m not too much of a tv show binge watcher. More of a movie gal but that may change with all the good suggestions. Happy Saturday everyone. Thanks for hanging out.
So how is this ‘work at home’ going for ya’ll?
I ended up setting up a mini shop so I could do mechanical sub-assembly work that doesn’t require an ESD compliant workstation. Happened to already have an environmental oven in my garage shop I could use to cure polymerics, but had to get a 180l 230psi dewer of LN2 to keep it purged.
Bugger weighs over 240 kilos full.
Fortunately the local gas supply house, after some arm twisting, agreed to deliver to a residential address. Work required I set up an O2 sensor to insure I didn’t suffocate should it leak without notice. All in all, kinda interesting, but at least I’m not bored out of my gourd and can still be somewhat productive for the time being…
@radiolysis Should have mentioned too the adhesive, Henkel Loctite EA 9394 AERO Epoxy, needs to be kept cold after mixing; better than -75C, so a double insulated cooler and dry ice fill that bill.
Yeah, it’s kinda fun.
@Mark_L We do.
MF-176 series similar to pictured, but with a rotary stage, mostly for measuring and correcting for Z-axis sensor tilt; 400x optics iirc.
@rjquillin I retired from Mitutoyo about 1.5 years ago. I was a software specialist for the vision and CMM measuring systems. I worked on some MF units that had a camera so they could be programmed into (manual stage) automatic measuring systems.
@Mark_L There are three or four of us here that have “qualified” on the system we have. We have a golden unit and to qualify you have to be within 0.00003" of the mean on the Z-axis height measuremen of the pixel plane on on the sensor die surface. It’s amazing how porous aluminium and alumina (case, not die) are at those mags.
@klezman@rjquillin Mitutoyo’s most precise measuring systems (contact and vision) have scale resolutions of .0000003937" (.01 microns), and accuracy specifications of around .000012" (.3 microns).
@klezman@Mark_L My comment on on porosity is really the limiting factor when dealing with “not smooth” surfaces. When we’re looking at a die surface of an imager (pixels) repeatability is actually much easier as the surface is, relatively smooth. But as we’re trying to make a wedge shim to insert between the case and the lens, we have to deal with machined aluminium surfaces that are just plain ugly. The granularity is pretty astounding, and trying to judge the “top” isn’t easy, have to look for shaved off tops of the granular structure and estimate.
@klezman@Mark_L@ScottW58
Killing what’s left of the economy, but I’m still trying to do my part.
Getting paid for not working just isn’t my style.
There are, however, a limited number of things I can do from here.
@klezman@ScottW58
Looks like I get an “Essential Worker” or whatever they call it card, so I don’t get locked up if I’m stopped while out and about doing essential work.
@davirom@ScottW58 I disagree about wine in the bathroom. A nice glass of wine (or more) while soaking in a jetted tub is fabulous. In the WC itself is a whole other thing.
@pseudogourmet98 Tough call…the older ones you can just tell them to amuse themselves and they understand the concept of “but we need to work”. But surly 20 year olds are a whole other ball of annoying.
Ever drop a small pellet of dry ice into a glass for a quick chill?
Or perhaps a wee dram of LN2?
Lately I seen to have quite the assortment to tinker with.
Friend of mine said I gave him a bottle of
2017 Shannon Ridge Vineyard Pinot Noir Urgency
that I have no CT record of (no surprise there).
Has anyone seen this and know where it may have been sold?
Friar Tuck Online- Springfield IL, the vivino link, has had this listed now for nearly a year. I found where I emailed him the link last July.
fs/case, but not near that level of interest.
I still think GO. vague memory. thanks all.
Santa Ana deliveries?
Pretty sure I’ve got some bottles for a few near or in Santa Ana. Looks like I’ll be up there tomorrow for a source inspection for work. Let me know if I have something for you, and if I can find it this evening perhaps we can do an exchange.
@rjquillin Just saw this, so today is out. I have 10 for you and you have a similar # for me (I’ll detail in an email soon), so next time you’re in the area LMK. I’m about 20 min. N of WineX.
@klezman@merrybill
A, kinda, quick up and back, at least the driving part.
Traffic was moving right along. If I wasn’t doing 75~80 I was getting passed. Lots of lurking about.
Long day doing inspections, didn’t even break for lunch.
So, no pickups or deliveries for me or anyone else.
@losthighwayz Depends on your definition of “out and about”.
Based on my reading and bioscience background, it seems like the LA County recommendations still make a ton of sense. Stay home when possible, or go outside in sparesely populated spots. Wear a mask if you’re near others or inside any indoor public place.
Above all, remember that the greatest danger may not be to you, but to the other people you know who might be higher risk. Especially people who have any blood pressure-related or diabetes-related comorbidities or people who are above (approx) 55 years of age.
FWIW, I took the toddler to the beach a week ago. That day, at least, it was easy enough to keep enough distance. The ocean breeze also helps disperse any droplets so long as you’re not a short(ish) distance directly downwind. When we were walking on city streets near the beach, though, masks were on.
@klezman@losthighwayz
When you were walking the streets was everyone else wearing a mask because I thought the mask only protects other people from you?
@losthighwayz@ScottW58 You’re correct in that it is much more effective at stopping outbound transmission than inbound reception. Most people in my neighbourhood either wear one all the time or are extra careful to stay fairly far apart. Personally, I’m satisfied with people’s compliance.
I keep a mask handy when I’m walking around with the kiddo or at the park. But I only put it on when others are nearby. That, to me, is a perfectly reasonable trade-off. (I also get a kick out of the people who wear masks when alone driving their cars. Makes no sense whatsoever.)
@CorTot@losthighwayz@ScottW58 Leave it to the Canadian to assume friendly ribbing and nothing more
Let’s face it - wearing a mask sucks. But it’s important. It’s too bad that much of the transmission appears to be from asymptomatic carriers. It would be so much easier if it was like the flu and you had to actually feel sick to be contagious.
@karenhynes Saw that the other day. Very interesting indeed. There was also a paper just pre-published showing that the number of ACE2 receptors in nasal epithelium seems to increase with age. At least up to age 60. That could be a partial explanation as to why kids appear to be less susceptible to becoming infected (and maybe also why they are less susceptible to the more severe cases as well).
@klezman I wear my mask in the car if I’m coming home from the store, as not to have to touch my mask or face with potentially contaminated hands. Then I’ll wash hands, take off mask, wash hands. I am overly cautious, but my hands are a nice shade of chapped!
I keep sanitizer inside my car and wear a nitrile glove (or two) for shopping. Load stuff into the car, get in, sanitize hands with the sanitizer I keep in there, then touch the inside of the car. Same basic idea, just I do it in the car.
Yes, total pain in the ass.
And, unsurprisingly, a week or so after LA County has relaxed restrictions we have an uptick in cases. Over 1800 new cases today, although “some” are from a testing backlog. Unless almost half of them are backlog results, this is a large increase from the roughly 1000 per day we’ve had the last week or two.
@rjquillin I don’t know - I haven’t looked closely at that particular data stream. My sense is that more people are getting tested regardless of symptoms and they’ve also started testing (e.g.) all workers in nursing homes to be safe. So I’d expect the rate of positive tests given having a test to go down.
But I’m not sure what you’re thinking that will tell us. With testing more widely available, you no longer need symptoms in LA County to get a test.
Two tests are really needed. First the RT-PCR test or similar that measures active infections. Systematic or asymmetric this is possible the best way to know the % of the population who have contracted the virus. Test two which currently has a very high false-positive rate would be an antibody test. Because we have truly only tested people who are symptomatic and those who had contact we really on have tested 5% of the population. We have little to no clue about asymmetric people. A reliable titer needs to be developed. However, ever after we do not know how long the immune system keeps this virus in its profile. It could very well be like the flu, slight shifts in the protein coat and the body can’t recognize it.
@klezman Absolute positive number may be higher, but % of those tested positive could be lower.
Absolute number is worthless. It will always increase while testing is done, unless this is totally eliminated, which is unlikely.
@jml326 First, I love that your autocorrect changed “asymptomatic” to “asymmetric”. Unless you really meant people lacking symmetry
Yes, the two tests tell us different things. And yes, the antibody tests to date have had pretty terrible accuracy. (Even before the true PPV can be assessed given the actual seroprevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.)
On a positive note, recent research suggests that SARS-Cov-1 antibodies provide some protection against SARS-CoV-2. The evidence so far suggests that the spike protein is not evolving particularly quickly, which makes sense - if it evolved too quickly it would lose its ability to attach to ACE2. Newly released evidence also suggests that antibodies persist for some time, and appear to confer some immunity. What’s not clear is to what extent.
I’ve gone a bit overkill I think, but I can choose my protection level. Box of gloves, if I’m really nervous about what I may have to handle, with a pair in my pocket on the way in.
In the car, a storage container with ~20 or so Handi-Wipes in the container, swimming in some 99% IPA. Second container for the used wipes/gloves. Back to car, open door, grab box(s) and open both, wipe anything I’ve touched (CC, keys, door handle, storage boxes) old wipe into the used box and close both.
So far it’s seemed to work…
Mask, yes, when required within a store, or in proximity to others.
So many people on FB and acquaintances in the LA area roaming around in groups maskless. Ticks me off but then makes me wonder if I am the fool for listening and protecting myself but more importantly my family. Tired of people saying it’s an overreaction, an attack on Trump, etc
@Mark_L I think the easiest way is taking a pic with a tablet which has the “attach image” feature. Or I take a pic on my iPhone which shares to an iPad. I’m sure it works similarly in the Android world.
@hscottk@klezman I tried Imgur (which seems to work well for @ScottW58, but nothing showed up here. I finally tried using the “upload image” option and that worked.
@klezman@Mark_L@ScottW58 The twin peaks/sun icon to the right of the 1s and 0s icon (only seen on iPad not iPhone) lets you upload a photo from your library.
@hscottk@Mark_L@ScottW58 Yeah, I have that on the desktop version but not the Android mobile browser. Which is, of course, where my photos would most likely be.
@hscottk@klezman@Mark_L@ScottW58 In chrome on Android I just got to the menu and switch to “desktop site”. The attach file icon then shows up and you upload from your phones pics. Clunky, but it works. Who would have thought in 2020 it would be such a pain.
Reading some of the mod chatter on meh shipping…
While many here have issues and think UPS really sucks, check out the comments about P-B shipping, if you have an hour or two. https://meh.com/forum/topics/pitney-bowes-complaint-thread
I too have a package in the P-B abyss with no idea when or if it will show up. Luckily, nothing meh! sells is of critical importance to me. They’re going to have a “fun” Xmas season if they don’t get this fixed.
50 best wine retailers, according to WE.
Sorry, couldn’t find an open link.
10 categories of five each.
I had to look.
best online 5 of 5
best clubs 0/5
education programs 0/5
back vintage 2/5
natural 0/5
best rare 3/5
best overall 3/5
best single focus (?) 0/5
value driven (qpr) 2/5
shop design (I care?) 0/5
So, overall, 11 of 50.
I’m somewhat worried worried.
@chipgreen@klezman@ScottW58
As do I; but the near total shutdown of public displays in the XXX of CA was depressing.
I fully understand why individuals would diy.
@klezman it’s been a problem here in the heart of Bmore for over a month now, they have been lightn’ off stuff since the marches and protests started. I’m surprised they have not run out of products, but some is more gun than straight noise.
@ctmariner Nope. But if the SoCal crew wants to split one at some point I’d probably try. Cameron Hughes is good at what he does, so I’d expect great qpr which leaves it as a question of style.
@klezman Green Valley penciled in for one day. Likely IH, Dutton, and Marimar unless there’s another place you recommend? Also need to make sure kid friendly
Posted on main thread then thought better of it. In any event, here are my thoughts about Brick Barn
not be popular as usual but not a fan of their wines. Been there twice and walked away with the same impression. My wife agreed along with friends who’ve visited on different occasions. Disjointed across the board imo.
Beautiful grounds, views, and service though.
Just sharing my personal experience. Others might feel otherwise
@losthighwayz
Thanks Lost, pretty sure WD would appreciate it as well.
While tolerated, it is a bit more diplomatic to air the laundry here rather than there.
And I see @klezman resurrected the Poli"ticks" IV thread as well.
@klezman@losthighwayz@rjquillin
To me, the point of the product discussion is to weigh the pros and cons of a possible purchase. I disagree that negative comments should be relegated to alternate discussion threads.
I don’t care for the especially mean-spirited posts that sometimes crop up but sharing one’s real world experience with a wine/winery is valuable information when considering a purchase and should be readily accessible to those in the act of doing so.
@klezman@losthighwayz@rjquillin
Now that I have read through the product thread, I see that Lydia’s husband just took over the winemaking duties with the last harvest.
Your comment about the wines having been disjointed both times you were there could have been a product of the previous winemaker’s efforts and is perhaps why they made a change but now that’s just speculation in a sidebar discussion.
@chipgreen@klezman@losthighwayz
“wow” didn’t add much to the discussion.
The further explanation here answered the comment. Could it have been there, sure, you know I won’t mod it out. It is thoughtful, imo, to try not to alienate a first time vendor. Again, just my opinion.
Rather surprised, One of them asked how to post a pic, but last I checked nothing up yet.
@klezman@losthighwayz@rjquillin
I think he did a ctrl-x of what you see above and replaced it with “Wow!” (maybe didn’t know that he could just delete?) but that is also speculation. Only his hairdresser knows for sure!
Haha, sorry I am feeling a little silly this evening for some reason. Haven’t even had a drink. I think work is getting to me!
The block quote thing works reasonably well to refer back to something specific, you just have to copy it from the previous post then paste it in next to the >
Just don’t make the amateur mistake of adding your own comments without a line break between them or it will all end up highlighted, causing confusion as to where the quoted text ended and your text began. I believe RJ pulled this off the other day (snicker).
Anyway, I hope your evenings have become less frustrating since your post from a few days ago!
@chipgreen@klezman@rjquillin truth be told their wines were pretty bad. That being said, I felt bad soonafter I posted and was able to retract on time. I typed wow for no other reason than to avoid a blank comment lol I know, it does not make much sense unless you are tired as heck from checking out Chromebooks and materials to elementary school families nonstop for 8 hours
@chipgreen@klezman@losthighwayz@rjquillin But what chip said three posts up only works if nobody sticks a reply in there in the meantime.
EDIT: Never mind, I forgot the system doesn’t put the reply right below the comment being replied to. This is precisely why I rarely bother posting anything on here, or even on the current thread, unless I’ve been chosen as a labrat.
@rjquillin
Well not to be snarky rjq although I usually am looking at the wines they make I see a bunch of unusual varieties, and I am not familiar with any wines coming from Lake County that are known for tgreat longevity of 20 to 40 years.
@rjquillin@ScottW58 Clark’s Cab Franc from Lake County is definitely in the 20+ year wine category. But I think that’s the exception that proves the rule, at least for now.
I expect that Lake County wines will keep increasing in stature unless we reverse climate change.
@klezman I remember celebrating Canadian Thanksgiving with a friend in college who was born in Saskatchewan. I forgot to buy a turkey in time to thaw it so I bought a couple of fresh chickens and called them ‘Cornish Game Turkeys’. She never knew the difference.
Whole lot of burning going on in SoCal, Orange County and area. Lot of 'mates there as well. Hoping they all remain safe (evacuations going on) and don’t get damaged.
How’s everybody’s T-giving prep going? Instead of contributing one dish (a massive salad) to a family gathering of 3 dozen+ ppl where every household contributed a component of the meal, I find myself making all the trad courses for the first time in my life. And it’s just the two of us! Though I brought over a couple of meals for my mom and her caregivers.
I followed Kenji’s formula for sous vide turkey breast with crispy skin. Man, that skin is tasty! The turkey came out perfectly tender. I made a couple of drumsticks in the sous vide as well, despite Kenji’s admonition that it’s not worth it. Idk, I think it came out great. Falling off the bone and tender. Only took 16 hours.
Then I made stock, and my first-ever gravy. That gravy is good enough to drink! Right on, Kenji! Cranberry sauce, sweet potato casserole, curried pumpkin soup – clearly I’m subconsciously trying to recreate the happy feelings of Thanksgiving gatherings past. Still on the agenda: apple crumble. And a salad.
Tomorrow’s pairing: I had originally thought the 2013 Onesta Cinsault, but now after all that work I think the meal deserves Clark’s 2007 PN, at the very least.
@InFrom
Good work love Kenji’s recipes! Have a little 13 pounder in brine for tomorrow’s smoke, cranberry sauce done. Stuffing and gravy tomorrow. Just the kid’s and us could be worse I guess. No clue what I’m drinking yet.
@InFrom
My prep involves gathering up an assorted case of wine and driving 3 hours to my SIL’s place. There will only be 6 of us altogether this year so 12 bottles should be enough! Just have to save a bottle or two of bubbles for the morning Mimosas.
@chipgreen@InFrom@scottw58 We’re doing lamb this year. And we’ll be eating outside! Still trying to decide on a pairing. Cab, pv, ps, other? Decisions…
@chipgreen@hscottk@InFrom@ScottW58 Just got back from camping last night, going to make a spatchcocked turkey this afternoon and roll with it. This is always our second Thanksgiving of the year, though, since the original one is in October.
@ScottW58 I mean, as the 4th tier in my priority list, sure:
Leafs
the rest of Canada except Montreal
Other original 6
Montreal
Kings or Sharks (and that’s really generous to the Kings)
other teams except
sunbelt teams
@rjquillin UPS came, apparently knocked, but neither of us heard, and it’s back on the truck for tomorrow.
We also have more cases of Garagiste arriving today than I’d care to admit.
@klezman
31 down here.
Still have a Wine Spies GSO case flogging around somewhere.
GSO is spot on, the fail is when some imbecile ships GSO to a business address on Friday.
Yes, that would be last Friday.
~NOT happy with WS at the moment~
How’s everybody’s long weekend going? Assuming it is a long weekend, that is. I have tomorrow off, molarchae isn’t so lucky. Also, none of us are particularly lucky with a mini-outbreak of coxsackie virus in our house.
@klezman I don’t know what that is but I’m sure we’ve had it.
Not going to date it?
@rjquillin WOFT!
@CorTot not gonna google it
Ether? Are we 1875 Liverpool?
@bhodilee Better than being in the chloroform, I guess …
@bhodilee come on. He’s Canadian. At least he didn’t use the more pompous aether spelling. Besides what do you call the rj45 Port?
@jasisk I call it a rj45 Port. Sometimes I call it a jack, usually I don’t refer to it cause nobody I would ever say it to knows what it is, cause luddites.
@jasisk did your Canadian family approve of that message?
@bhodilee then they should just admit they’re lost in today’s world
@klezman I’m being invaded this weekend. MIL and GMIL are coming for the weekend. Since my FIL gets to stay in SD by himself, it’s 3-4 Canadian to US born… so I get to keep my slim majority.
@jasisk not enough to pass any meaningful reform.
@jasisk Ah, but if you reeavluate the numbers based on citizenship…? My house is 2-2, and any subsequent offspring will retain the tie.
@klezman I thought about that… but I choose to keep natural born
Otherwise it’s still a tie!
There’s also a horrible joke in the name of that virus, but I shall adult.
@bhodilee Adulting is overrated.
@bhodilee yes there is, but adulting is good. At least this time.
Doing Whole30 right now, so can’t drink. Meh. Kinda sucks, but good for me I know…Will be drinking wine soon, though!
@vaaccess wine is like a good dog, it will wait for you no matter how long it takes.
@bhodilee Indeed it will!
I’m tired, can we just roll this out early?
@bhodilee It’s already an hour earlier than it used to be
@ilCesare It’s already an hour later than I want it to be.
@ilCesare Damnit, I forgot and missed the launch!
@bhodilee Ditto!
But an hour earlier is gooder for us on the East Coast!
Fucking hell. A bottle of icewine slid between the racking on the wine fridge. 5 feet up from the floor. The tile-on-concrete floor. That’s the second bottle that shelf has claimed.
@klezman destroy that shelf, consign it to the burn pile.
@klezman It is obviously a sign that you need to come to the ice wine festival next year
@klezman Oh noes, not again!
@klezman Maybe you just need to chill those ice wines in a chiller.
@bahwm at least this one was a semi random lcbo purchase. It was still red icewine though.
@klezman
Watching the outtakes is helping take the pain away from my stupid rolled ankle. It’s a poorly designed joint. Also, drinking Help Yourself. It’s helping too.
@winefarm OMG yes, I rolled mine in like July and it still hurts occasionally!
@bhodilee I normally wear ankle braces but didn’t tonight because I’m trying new inserts and it would make my shoes too tight. Dang. It’s not a good sign when one has to wear so much equipment…
@winefarm Maybe less equipment?
@MarkDaSpark but I look so good!
I’m editing tables for my phd thesis. Also I almost bought the launch shirt then realized that the kickstarter backers will get a similar shirt in a different color.
@tiger7610 i have not seen t-shirts from the kickstarter. Did they post somewhere?
@tiger7610 nevermind i see
@jml326 I don’t see. I’m confused. This new format is weird. Where do you see that the kickstarter shirt is similar but different color?
@HitAnyKey42 says it on the meh write up
@bhodilee Bah! That requires me to actually read something in a specific spot rather than just having someone tell me or link to me directly.
@HitAnyKey42 you know you’re talking to the king of “Google this for me” right?
I walked into FedEx to pick up my box of Corison last night and the guy said, “only one today?”
See what you’ve done WD? That is all.
@sdilullo but was it for 2, 4 or the full monty?
I waffled, 3x2 little ones, but got much the same reaction.
@rjquillin Only two. This is probably why they were particularly perplexed.
@sdilullo well, it was three boxes of corison, and a couple others; so five total, but mostly smaller ones.
Can someone explain how to get back to the main listing of threads after viewing one? Whenever I view one, I keep having to manually scroll back to the top, and then click the “Community” button, and then click the “Casemates” link.
@HitAnyKey42 Remove everything after
/forum/from the url in your address bar.@arielleslie So basically, no buttons or links? Have to manually delete from the address? Though I suppose just using the main link as a favorite in my favorites bar would also work. Guess that’s the only way to actually navigate this website.
@HitAnyKey42 As you noted, you could scroll to the top and use the “community button” or you could double-tap the back button (or Alt-
twice).
@HitAnyKey42 @snapster Exactly why it was asked earlier for the addition of top and home buttons, for those lacking physical mice and physical keyboards.
Clarification to my above comment: You only need to double-tap the back if you commented. If you only read the thread, normal back will work.
@HitAnyKey42 I learned rather quickly that the first click on the “community” button opens the menu for the various Mediocre communities. A second click on that same button takes you to the forum main page for the site you’re on. I agree it’s confusing.
@dave @snapster maybe this is something we can add more links for? It’s also something I’d rather not have to scroll back up to the top to do every time.
@rjquillin you were asking about accessibility improvements? I was under impression was your usability feeling from woot to this.
@snapster Nah, Ron is just saying he usually uses his tablet for this stuff so he finds it annoying to have to scroll around so much. (It takes some time to learn to decipher Ron
)
@klezman I concur. Too much scrolling…A “back to top” that moved with the scrolling of the page would be splendid. No idea how easy/hard that is, but might be a simple approach?
@HitAnyKey42 Double click the community chat bubble icon at the top right:
@HitAnyKey42 Hit the back arrow in the upper left corner.
@vaaccess @klezman @rjquillin First, if you’re using Android (tablet or phone), then skip to the end of this. If you are NOT using Android, you shouldn’t settle for anything BUT this. Website posted script-buttons do scrolling slower and of course are more variably located. Instead, learn these and be done looking for buttons:
Mac Desktop Safari browsing options: CMD + (up/down arrow), or space to go down one page at a time and shift-space to go up one at a time.
Windows Desktop (all browsers?) browsing options: Home, End, Page Up, Page Down, or space to go down one page at a time and shift-space to go up one at a time.
iOS Devices: just tap top of your phone to scroll back up to top. just above URL entry bar.
Now for Android. You could definitely use a button if we add one at some point because your options don’t seem to include a shortcut. You’re probably always searching for buttons since you don’t have a native “go to top” OS function.
Here’s your best solution:
In our use case, for these forums, simply hit the back button on your browser. In one step you’re back to what you might want versus 2. If you do want a refreshed view then hit refresh.
If you have an old device with a hardware back button, perhaps this is even more enjoyable UI than going back to the top in order to click something there to send you back to the forum thread list.
Also you could consider: Root it and install OneClick https://lifehacker.com/oneclick-scroll-jumps-to-the-top-or-bottom-of-a-page-wi-1513579137
maybe worth mentioning - on mac desktop I actually don’t always use the shortcut I posted because the touch-pad-top-of-mouse scrolling is so frictionless and fast I use it instead.
@snapster that iOS feature is AWESOME!!! Had no idea.
@vaaccess I do like that when on my iPad; quite handy.
@snapster I’ve accidentally done that a few times w/ Chrome on iOS, but infrequent so I thought it was just Chrome being stupid. Thanks for the tip!!
OK, too many posts in one thread that made me chuckle out loud - bowtie, really, I thought the exact same thing re ether, including the ae. HAK and others, as posted previously, filtering is your friend - play around a bit to set it up so you see your favorite threads… Cesare - really?! …and Mark, where do you find this stuff?!
@XsanityX sparky is the best
@XsanityX I have come to the conclusion that Sparky’s real job is cataloging gifs on the internet, cause he has one for everything.
Can we have either a tab or a sticky or something for this? Looking for it is REALLY going to push my apathy gene to the max.
@bhodilee Ya. But the more we comment, the higher it stays. I’d love to get the hookup threads out of my view…
Anyway, it would be awesome if we could “hide” threads or conversely, subscribe to threads, and have them take precedence somehow.
@vaaccess I thought maybe that was a thing you could do, but maybe it is a thing you cannot do, but would be a handy thing you could do if you could do that thing.
At least I don’t have to deal with # tags here
@kalfaz #thankgodforminormiracles
So far down the list
I keep seeing mention of a kickstarter coupon, how did I miss this?
@bhodilee I was literally just trying to figure out where to post this same question. Well, I didn’t miss the kickstarter coupon, but I am trying to figure out how/where to get the 3 $10 coupons from the WCC email…
@jasisk In another thread they mentioned they’re still working on getting those out to us.
@jasisk I have signed up for that, perhaps that is why WD said to email him
I submitted a request to customer service, as noted in another thread. I just got an email back asking if I had created an account or responded to the survey…
uh, yes, my account was included in the initial form, as was my email address, and I have the badges 
I, got my Little today and found out that there are other denizens of my State on here, which makes me feel territorial. I’ll be peeing on light poles henceforth.
@bhodilee Isn’t it cold enough there that that would be rather, um, odd?
@klezman Clearly you aren’t considering the source.
@klezman 52F yesterday, 48 today
So the pub over on ye olde website is relatively vacant. Why not post over here? What are y’all up to this long weekend? We’re taking the toddler to the Sierras! Should be interesting…
@klezman I am hopefully drinking great wine, playing with my border collies, and watching grey whales from the shore.
@klezman will be driving around PA doing toddler friendly amusement parks.
@jml326 We’re hoping the park/mountains will be friendly to our toddler…
@jml326 @klezman Which ones?
Get well!
@rjquillin Knoebels and Dutch Wonderland
@jml326 Wow, Knoebels, that brings back some memories.
@InFrom I just hope the rain holds off
@klezman Headed up to lake arrowhead over the 3 day weekend. Headed to a dodger game tonight. Gave my 6 year old tickets for his birthday since he just got off his first year of tee ball which he really liked.
@CorTot
One of the wines I will be drinking today is a 2006 Arrowhead Mountain Vineyard Arrowhead Red.
@chipgreen good on ya!
It’s a beautiful place here in Southern California.
@chipgreen @CorTot I should get my butt out there for some camping. We also just got the Interagency Annual Pass…so lots more car camping for us this coming year!
I’ll be doing my football draft Saturday morning, then beating myself up about it the rest of the weekend.
link
College football!
If any of you are still lamenting the sellout of decanters on w.w some time ago, they’re back on Gourmet.woot. Looks like a great deal at $14.99.
@ddeuddeg
If the picture is correct I don’t like those, they have a flat edge at the lip which catches a few drops of wine when you pour then the wine follows that edge to the bottom and leaks off the back.
@ScottW58
Worth noting, for sure. I usually have a paper towel handy to catch drips like that, because I’m basically clumsy.
I just noticed the background graphic at the top of the page. Looks kinda familiar…
@InFrom
Ha! I never did figure out who beefy taco was/is…
@chipgreen A guy from Brooklyn, we met him at a w.woot get-together some years ago.
@chipgreen “We” being me and my spouse, not you and me.
@InFrom
Yeah, I would have remembered that.
Guess I was wrong though, thinking that was a secondary screen name for someone I already knew by another handle.
@InFrom love it!
Sequoia and Kings Canyon Parks are delightful this time of year! The elevation really helps keep the heat down.
Socal casematers and former wooters. Stop on by this thread for our fall meetup planning.
https://casemates.com/forum/topics/casemates-51
I started a new job while I"m finishing my thesis. I’m working at Sheldrake point winery on cayuga lake in their tasting room, so if you want to taste the best rose in NY state stop on by.
@tiger7610 Nice!
How much longer until we can officially finally call you Doctor?
@tiger7610 That sounds like a nice job! Nice to see you back on the boards.
@tiger7610 How did you end up at that particular winery? I don’t think it’s one we’ve ever visited.
@tiger7610 Congrats! Sounds like fun.
@InFrom I knew them as the one of the few wineries on cayuga lake that do dry wines, and they do decent quality wines and they were hiring.
Made my annual batch of garden pesto. This year’s crop was pretty sad, unfortunately. I kept letting it accidentally go to flower.
Love me some homemade pesto! What all do you put in “garden” pesto? Or is it just that the basil comes from your garden? Also, how do you store it? I usually freeze in ziplock bags and would be interested other options.
@pseudogourmet98 Just basil from the garden. Basil, olive oil, pine nuts, salt, garlic, a drop or two of lemon juice, pecorino Romano, and Parmigiano Regiano.
But then the final dish also includes tomatoes from the garden.
@pseudogourmet98 We freeze some of it in ice cube trays. Once frozen, put the cubes in plastic bags or containers, so you have easier access to smaller portions. We also put some in 1/2 pint jars, which is about enough for when we are making it for whole family.
Hi Guys! Through the years, those of you who hung in the old CyberPub heard tell of our visits with Cousin Bob near San Francisco and Cousin Alice near LA. Apparently, about 3 weeks ago, Bob was having problems breathing. He went to the hospital and after some tests and draining of fluid, they found that he had Stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Bob passed Monday night at the age of 87. I am glad that we had a chance to see him one last time this summer before the RPM tour.
@bahwm My condolences. so glad you had a chance to visit when you came out.
@Winedavid49 Thanks, David.
@bahwm So sorry to hear that. At least he didn’t have to endure months/years of suffering. I had an Uncle Jim in England who went similarly. Thought he had the flu because of an upset stomach. When it didn’t get better after a week or so he went to the doctor and ended up having end-stage stomach cancer and was also gone in about 3 weeks.
@bahwm Oh no! I’m sorry to hear that. As they say in Judaism, may his memory be a blessing.
Quiet in the Pub this… season?
Anyway, this sucks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/10/11/master-sommeliers-stripped-of-coveted-titles-after-cheating-taints-wine-tasting-test/
@InFrom scandal!
What a silly idea to cheat on that sort of thing.
@InFrom
That led me to THIS story.
@chipgreen Yeah, saw that one as well. I told my office wine friends, if that Goldman CEO had stuck to Pedroncelli, none of this would have happened!
I feel bad for those newly-minted somms who passed the test legitimately, only to have it snatched away. The thought of going through all that again must be horrible to contemplate. (Hopefully not enough to make any of them jump out a window of the Carlyle.)
@chipgreen @InFrom
Just heard this on NPR on my way home this evening. Not only is it sad to have the credential snatched away, but will also have significant financial impact as well. With the Master Somm they can earn three times as much (on average).
@InFrom
They’re supposed to waive the test fee and give compensation for travel & lodging for those having to re-take the test.
not since the West Point Cadet football player scandal…!
For those who don’t regularly check the old site anymore, the yummy sea salt caramels are up on gourmet.woot.
@karenhynes
ordered up some as soon as I saw them. they are tasty.
@karenhynes @rc70 .this.
And don’t miss the Cavedoni selections now up on rll.
I want to dry age some beef at home. Anybody want to help us with a “practice” cut? I was thinking of getting a prime striploin or rib subprimal from Costco and aging it for ~40 days. That way when the bone-in ribs make their appearance around xmas time I’ll be confident.
Anybody want to go in on the test round? The whole slab is usually in the $125 range depending on the day. We can sample the results (and even take multiple different ages if we want) for a nice dinner & wine gathering, probably near to Thanksgiving time.
@ScottW58 @rjquillin @CorTot @merbill
@klezman @ScottW58 @rjquillin @CorTot @merbill
Had to go down to the barrio yesterday to pick up dome fresh coffee, swmbo wanted to hit some Asian markets for supper last night. There was a commercial Costco on the way and I wanted some capers, at a decent price.
We wandered back to the meat area; yikes!
Huge cuts of nearly everything, not the household size offerings at the local outlets. Entire legs and shoulders of lamb at Costco pricing. Would have to acquire some major cooking implements to deal with some of these. Still, amazing to see the cuts.
How you thinking of doing the aging?
From what I’ve read, limited, it takes good temperature and humidity control with adequate air circulation to be successful.
@CorTot @rjquillin @ScottW58
Most stuff I’ve read agrees that a fan inside either a bar fridge or a freezer with an adjusted thermostat does the job well. Some also add a tray of salt to help act as an air desiccant. They key seems to be to ensure that the crust properly develops in the first few days.
Whole lamb shoulders sounds great. I wonder if there’s a commercial Costco near me…although it’s hard to suggest a full 109A rib is a household size.
@klezman tough to commit here, it sounds fun though! We’ll be around before thanksgiving but I’ll be out of town the week after. I’ve never dry aged a steak and wouldn’t know where to start. But I bet there’s a YouTube video for that.
@CorTot Mostly looking for people to help split the cost at the moment and then we’ll make sure all can attend the sampling! We’re also most of Channukah, so there will be some wrangling. Dec 15 weekend is a likely good time, and could double as a kiddo birthday shindig! (What two-year old doesn’t like a good dry aged steak?)
@klezman
You should do it! I have a friend who does this all the time but usually goes over where I like it. I prefer 30 day at most.
@rjquillin Costco Business is fantastic. But more importantly, what coffee were you going for? We’re always looking for new roasters to try out.
@ScottW58 The 100+ day aged rib steak at APL restaurant might change your mind
But I figured at least you’d be in because you could use some of the remaining cooler space when we do another round in December/January! Also, we need to get together to eat/drink. We can do weekend of Oct 26-28 or Sunday of next week. Next Saturday has no guarantees since I’ll be getting off a flight from Switzerland on Saturday.
Also, happy birthday to your lovely SWMBO! I hope she at least took today off!
@radiolysis Used to purchase from Pannikin, wholesale, when they existed. The roaster split off from the retail outlets after some fracas and is now known as Cafe Moto. Still purchase wholesale. This all started around '69 or '70. Settled in on a dark roast blend they call Blue Sky. I like a darker roast, but had to compromise with swmbo. We do #5 of beans every 3~4 weeks or so.
@klezman @ScottW58 @markdaspark I kind of miss sparky’s b-day greetings here. A tradition lost with ww it seems.
@klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58
Yes, not as easy to do.
@klezman
we both work Sundays now so no break for her. Next Sunday should work.
Yeah 100 days no thanks kind of prefer fresh meat
@klezman
I will donate to your Flankmates Kickstarter at the Kiddo Birthday Shindig Remote Party Pack level. Send the link.
@chipgreen Nicely done.
But if you’re coming to town we’ll throw a shindig just for you!!
@chipgreen @klezman
I can attest to that. When my husband and I were in SoCal a few years ago we were treated with open arms by the woot contingent. I was just telling someone the other day about it and they were dumbfounded. “Wait. You’re telling me that you were thousands of miles from home, you got into a car with some people you only knew from an internet chat, you let them take you to the house of another person you only knew from the internet (and you didn’t know exactly where that house was), and you lived to tell about it?” Yes! And we met some wonderful people and had a fabulous time, and I would do it again in a heartbeat!
@klezman
Sadly, not likely anytime soon… best chance would be if there is a 2019 RPM Tour. For now I will have to continue to live vicariously through the postings of yourself and others!
@chipgreen @klezman @pseudogourmet98 Right after the first rpm tour in 2008, we were making plans to attend a SoCal auxiliary tasting in Las Vegas, where we knew we’d be seeing some of the friends we made on the tour. The tasting was to be at the home of one of the people who had been posting regularly on the w.w blog, but whom we hadn’t met. We mentioned this at dinner in Buffalo with a bunch of friends, a few weeks before the tasting, and they were aghast.“You’re going to Las Vegas to a wine tasting at the home of an internet friend?” We talked about it on the way home; after all, just a few months earlier, we had sent a check to some (then unknown) guy in Michigan for a tour that, on its face would have seemed pretty sketchy to a lot of people. The tour happened and we had a fabulous time. But here we were, heading across the country to hook up with some “internet friend”, something we have for years warned our students never to do. We flew out after school on Friday, had a great time, flew home on Sunday, never missed a day of work. A few months later, we were back in Las Vegas getting married, but that’s another whole story. Life is beautiful.
On the way, with TimB and the German girl, to Cathy’s (Corison) for a dinner and tasting tomorrow. Looking forward to that and a scheduled tasting visit with Anthony Bell.
@rjquillin Now that sounds like a fun way to spend a weekend.
@rjquillin
I thought it was an English girl. Is there a rotation?
Have fun, drink some Kronos and Clone 6 for me!
@rjquillin Enjoy!
You have my proxy, of course, especially if you can swing any good deals.
@chipgreen @rjquillin
Nope. Been the German “girl” for a long time. She went on the 2012 and/or 2014 RPM Tour too.
Warning Rambling Rant:
I think that helped keep things from totally stiffening up. The following Tuesday I decided I should go to the dr. ended up having to go to the Work mans comp doctor, which is a min. 45 min drive from school… depending on the traffic it could take up to an hour to get to. I call them Quack in a box. I not nice place. The doctor actually touched my open wound on my knee without washing his hands. The nurse didn’t clean my wound before she applied more antibiotic ointment… the list goes on… After 5 weeks, they finally decided I needed a MRI. I don’t know how I managed, but I did not tear, chip or break anything! They finally decided to send me to an orthopedist! Only took them 6 weeks. Then it took a week to get into the specialist. So this week I go back to the quack, their computers are acting up and they can’t access my file. The Doctor comes in, I tell him I went to the Orthopedic Dr. and this guy says “oh, then you don’t come here anymore” Seriously? I reminded him that he is the one that sent me to the other… he said "well, we don’t know when you will get your appointment… I pointed out that it would have been good information to give a patient that if they can get an appointment with the specialist before their appointment with the quack … to call and cancel! I am so not happy… Anyhow, I go back to the orthopedic doc in 2 weeks. My knee is still got a healing scar and is swollen… but it is much better… If I knew about all the crap and crappy care, I would have to go through with the workman’s comp, I would have gone to my own doctor and paid out of pocket.
I know it has been a while … things have been crazy. The end of August I fell at work. While at car duty (where we open car doors for our car riders) I managed to fall off the curb and fall full force on my knee. I proceeded to load up a few more kids before I realized how bad it was. That night my knee swelled up to about the size of a softball. Long story short. That was a Thursday afternoon,Friday I went to Disney for the weekend and walked/limped about 10miles each day.
Rant/rambling over thanks
@mommadeb
Yikes! At least you don’t have to go back to the Quack anymore. Feel better!
@mommadeb Wow, you’ve been through quite a Fall so far. Hope things continue to improve. Have you been working all the while?
@InFrom yup. I’ve been worki ng. I make sure to get my dr appointment for as late as possible. Not fair to everyone I work with to not be working. I did find out, it would have been quite easy to have the doctors write me a note saying I couldn’t work… they kept asking me if I wanted them to give me restricted hours and duty. No wonder why so many abuse the system.
Sadly, it appears that the old Wine.Woot forums are no more!
Hopefully someone off loaded the more critical threads!
@MarkDaSpark They’re definitely kaput? TT had said they’d be loaded, eventually. Are they going back on that promise?
@InFrom
I clicked on a link here (well, on the TO Mystery Case offer) regarding Kent Rasmussen post on PS Dumb phase, and it didn’t show. I then went to the forums, and they’re missing.
Says “Oops! That page doesn’t exist or is private.”
@InFrom
They might, it looks like changed Forum software, so maybe they will.
@MarkDaSpark They’ve been saying the forums will show up. “They” being TT. We had a brief discussion about the changes last week.
Is B Toffee Brandini? Whatever it is, it is up on Gourmet. I can’t really tell from the description.
@bahwm Seems to me I saw it up there recently. Shame we can’t look at the old threads atm. But I don’t think it was from Brandini.
@bahwm @winedavid49
WD, you know anything about this?
@bahwm Seeing that there are different websites for Brandini and B Toffee (and different names in the “Story” pages of the two sites), I would venture that they are not the same.
@bahwm @rjquillin not connected. Brandon of Brandini was put off by us working with another toffee house when we went full gourmet… gone radio silent since then… a pitty (and petty!).
@bahwm @rjquillin @Winedavid49 The toffee is dead…Long live the toffee?
@bahwm @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Wow, impressively lame.
@rjquillin @Winedavid49 So sad. Seriously lame and unfortunate for us, because I thought we got some pretty good deals from them and a great QPR. On another note, they don’t hesitate to send emails about some of their offers!
@bahwm @klezman @rjquillin @Winedavid49
it’s not my fault that you got me hooked on crack!
Yeah pretty lame but I gotta say when I got the email from them I jumped on it
@rjquillin @Winedavid49 More specifically to WD: I’m pretty sure that you never signed any document that said that you would ONLY sell Brandini toffee. Time for some people to grow up!
@bahwm @rjquillin @Winedavid49 They did start the business as teenagers, didn’t they?
@klezman @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Oh, the irony!
@bahwm @rjquillin he is young and he stepped back after I told him about the demands of gourmet. But still no deal. A bummer considering we honestly help launch the brand.
@Winedavid49 If the wineries acted that way, you’d be in a world of trouble. "I thought you were only selling my Pinot Noir!
@bahwm @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Hmmm…somebody forgot who helped them get to where they are today. Who’d have guessed…
Sigh
@bahwm @rjquillin @Winedavid49
They sell their popcorn in Costco, and roadshows with more of their products. But they should honor who got them there!
Here’s an interesting idea, the best wine to drink with Halloween candy:
http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/10/the-best-wine-to-drink-with-halloween-candy.html?utm_source=GetTheElevator&utm_campaign=739799d7d1-GetTheElevator-dot-com_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e6123ee6a2-739799d7d1-17482965
Sous vide thingy over at Meh today. Any thoughts on it?
@karenhynes Got mine and worried what
withdrawn-mountainous-ramen
may invoke.
Already have an Anova, but grabbed these to do circuit board cleaning with some warm IPA.
These look like they may be better for shallower vessels and not requiring as much (height/depth) liquid; at least hoping that’s so.
@karenhynes @rjquillin I’ve been thinking of getting one so I got two (other will likely become a gift). Like @rjquillin my order confirmation of sore-boiling-idea was somewhat unsettling.
@karenhynes @rjquillin What kind of acid is that? I don’t think you mean cleaning circuit boards with pale ale…
@klezman @rjquillin
I’m guessing isopropyl…
@karenhynes @klezman Yes, this. 99.999% IPA
What would Swilly call it?
@karenhynes @rjquillin Oh, alcohol, not acid. My brain must have gone towards etching rather than cleaning.
@karenhynes @klezman
Ferric Chloride would be the common household etchant.
@karenhynes @klezman @rjquillin
200 Proof!
@chipgreen @karenhynes @klezman @rjquillin woof!
Well, we found out this is our first Thanksgiving in forever that it will be just our super immediate family. Which is good because my bathroom renovations will not be finished before Thanksgiving.
ScottW, I hope you, your family, friends and co-workers are all safe and unharmed after last night’s shooting rampage. I wish we could find a way to curb gun violence in America.
@chipgreen It’s close to home, but thankfully not that close. (Closer for Scott, but also not that close.) Me, I’m more worried about another anti-Semitic synagogue attack closer to home.
@chipgreen
Thanks Chip! Fortunately as Adam said we were not that close. And thankfully after telling my kids for years that nothing good happens out there after midnight they don’t go out very often to hang out at night spots with there friends.
@ScottW58 @klezman
Glad to hear you’re all ok.
Klez, that is a good point especially with the way some of these psychos like to copycat other psychos.
@chipgreen @ScottW58 Yeah, too much shit to worry about. Things that one ought not have to worry about in a civilized society.
Hoping all of our California friends are safe from the fires. Please check in when you can!
Karen
@karenhynes No issues at the far south end, yet.
Wondering about @scottw58, gotta be close to him, but thinking it’s downwind.
Sad to see the Paramount Ranch go.
Have many fond memories of the Southern Ren Faire right next door in Agoura.
@karenhynes @rjquillin
I live in Sherman oaks not thousand oaks, it’s pretty far from us and the wind is going away from our house. But thanks for the thoughts!
Lost is that you?
@karenhynes @rjquillin @ScottW58
Heh, I thought you lived in Thousand Oaks. Oops but glad that the fires are not near you!
Went to the hockey game last night. Leafs dominated the Kings! Awesome!
I’m seeing a cup in the not-crazy-distant-future for the first time in 25 years…
@klezman ha! You have been saying that for years
@ScottW58 True, but now it seems less like wishful thinking!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
@mommadeb
Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving !
@Winedavid49 Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving!
Hey, everybody! Icewine Festival Gathering info has been created. Check it out! Icewine Festival
@bahwm Bump! I guess that didn’t work so well–it just got re-imbedded.
My meadowcroft wine order has been getting a tour of IL it has at this point hit chicago twice, and at least 2 more IL cities. Anyone else have this problem with casemate order?
@tiger7610 Don’t you want well-traveled wine?
@tiger7610 Mine has been in IL since Monday, still there it appears.
@tiger7610 On the bright side, at least heat during shipping is not a concern.
I mean if it comes with fun people to drink with sure, but in this case, I just want it to get here. At which point do I call fedex and request them to send out search dogs
Merry Christmas Cyberpub folks!
@klezman Thanks!
@klezman Yes, thanks as well.
I rather miss the activity we used to have in the old pub.
Hopefully it’ll pick up here, but the ‘what are you drinking’ seems to be doing well.
@klezman @rjquillin I soooo miss the old pub activity. I even forgot to pop in with Christmas greetings! Things got goofy-busy yesterday.
@bahwm @klezman @rjquillin
I miss the old pub, too. I was much more of a reader than a poster, but I will endeavor to change that. I wish they could pin this at the top as a reminder to “chat”.
@bahwm @karenhynes @rjquillin We just need to make sure it’s always near the top so it doesn’t get lost!
It would be nice to have a larger “sticky” sort of thing, but this isn’t quite built in a way that facilitates it. It’s getting harder and harder to keep the community thriving…hopefully @dave @shawn and @snapster are paying attention…what made that other site special was the community more than the deals…
Happy Boxing Day to all!
Happy Holidays and upcoming new year! And happy upcoming russian christmas! I also miss the old pub/site community. Couldnt we sticky the pub? There are just too much posts/information
@tiger7610 You almost done with that whole dissertating business?
@klezman It better happen by this springs or there will be issues
@chipgreen
Sorry for your Browns
@rjquillin
Thanks, I’m just glad they are fun to watch again. Maybe next year. Also sorry for you San Diegoans (?) - Chargers leave town and suddenly get good, ugh.
@chipgreen But hey, Ohio did quite well today!
Good game.
Chargers? I’ve not watched a game now in over a year. Spanos burned down that bridge long ago.
Now that Anthony is gone from Bell, it’ll be difficult to justify those purchases as well; as Spanos is a part owner and that connection we had on tour is diminished with AB leaving.
@rjquillin
I wasn’t aware he left, wow. Hopefully he will reappear soon.
@chipgreen retired
@rjquillin
Ouch… sad to hear that.
@chipgreen the spinmeisters there were hawking how little if anything would change; yeah, right.
@rjquillin Just lost the man who may know more about Cabernet clones than anyone else in the World, yeah it should be just the same!
Was that his wife we met with him? I would assume she retired too and that would also be a big loss.
Happy New Year to all of my Pubster friends! Be healthy and safe!
@bahwm You too!
@bahwm Indeed, in only a bit over an hour for you folks.
@bahwm @rjquillin A warm and rainy end to the year. Counting down with a nice fire in the fireplace, red wine in the glass, and Champagne chilling. Happy New Year to all!
@bahwm @InFrom @rjquillin
Happy New Year Case-mateys!!
@bahwm @InFrom @karenhynes @rjquillin
Happy New Year! Good health and prosperity be with you!
@bahwm @chipgreen @karenhynes @rjquillin Same to you and the missus, and everyone else you @'ed.
Buffalo temperature at 2:30 PM today: 51 degrees!!
@bahwm W00t!, err, Ca$e!
currently 7C here in not-so-sunny SoCal.
Well, it is nighttime.
High tomorrow, 15C.
I’ll be enjoying the interior of the lab, running thermal-vac on the 2020 Mars rover cameras, but drinking vicariously with you.
Pics & TN’s!
@rjquillin Kind of sounds amazing, what you’re doing. Not a lot of drinking today–prepping for the choir party at our house tomorrow. Icewine Festival is next weekend.
Our choir party last night went really well. ddeuddeg and I are both exhausted! He did most of the cooking. I did a few little time-consuming things and got the house looking nice. Here was our menu:
Ooooo, I just figured out how to post a pic that I took!
@bahwm Any chance you took a picture of the stove top pork roast?? I would love to see that!
@bahwm @ScottW58 Yeah, the whole menu sounds delicious!
@ScottW58 No, I didn’t take a pic, but that’s a recipe that we make frequently. It’s soooo easy! But it usually takes about 2-2.5 hours to make. Whisper me your email address and I’ll send you a copy. It comes from a cookbook called “Great Foods Without Fuss”.
@ScottW58 The pork roast cooks in butter and oil with peppercorns, bay leaves, salt, and red wine vinegar. We baste it every half hour. The first time we made it, we were little piggies–we ate a whole two-pound roast in one sitting! But, it was soooo good! Now, we get two dinners and one lunch out of it!
@bahwm thank you so much! I will probably eat the whole thing the first night too
@bahwm
Thanks! I just ordered a copy of the kindle version of the cook book.
@karenhynes Wow! I had no idea! Just don’t make the Brussels Sprouts recipe from that cookbook! We love Brussels Sprouts, but that recipe was gross! It has to be really bad for us to say that! We love our veggies!
@bahwm
Hahaha! There’s a zero percent chance I’d make Brussels Sprouts from any cookbook.
I’ve tried them many different ways and just can’t make myself like them.
@karenhynes I’m sorry! We’ve converted a few people–how about with bacon and maple syrup or in a baby kale and sliced Brussels sprout salad?
@bahwm @karenhynes So have we, including Scott. Just a simple roast with olive oil and some seasoning. Gotta get some browning to make it work.
@karenhynes @klezman I even like them steamed with a little lemon juice and some freshly ground pepper.
@karenhynes oh man are you correct! If there was ever a foul vegetable the brussel sprout is it!
@bahwm @karenhynes
I like them Ruth’s Chris style;
“Roasted with honey butter to a warm caramel color and tossed with crispy bits of bacon.”
@bahwm @chipgreen @karenhynes If you have an Instant Pot try this recipe, best sprouts ever. These have converted even the most strident anti-vegetarians and meatavores I know.
https://pressureluckcooking.com/recipe/instant-pot-bangin-brussels-sprouts/
Watching my Clemson Tigers demolish the tide tonight!
@pjmartin
They sure did and with 2 true freshmen leading the way - impressive!
@chipgreen @pjmartin After last year, yes this was fun.
@pjmartin I would have been rooting for any team that was playing against Alabama.
@pjmartin Way to go Tigers!
Casemates glasses plus coupons over on regular meh. 4 for $16 plus two $8 coupons…so essentially free (plus tax/shipping).
I had to report my credit card “missing” today, so no joy for me. Go get 'em if you want 'em!
@karenhynes That’s one reason why I always have two working credit cards.
@Mark_L
Yeah…I do, but the other is at home and I’m not there until Friday night (or Saturday). I can survive with the 4 Casemate glasses I have.
@karenhynes I keep all of my credit card numbers as part of my LastPass information (along with all of the random passwords for logging onto any site) so I have them available wherever. Really helps.
At least, and from different issuers as well.
a friend of woot and casemates Ty Caton was involved in a very bad car accident over the weekend.
Ty should be ok, but others in the accident are in serious condition.
https://www.sonomanews.com/news/9170560-181/sonoma-valley-crash-injures-six
our thoughts are with the injured.
@Winedavid49 Please let us know if we can help in any way. Prayers sent.
@Winedavid49 Oh my! Accident looks terrible. I hope all involved will be okay. Like many here I’ve met Ty in his tasting room and seems a fine man. Prayers.
@Winedavid49
Oh no! That’s awful. Prayers to all involved and please do let us know if there is any way we can help.
@Winedavid49 How awful…
@Winedavid49 Oy, wow. I’m glad Ty was not severely injured and hope the seriously injured folks do ok.
Write ups like for today’s Chard just make me want to scream and run away as fast as I can, which, unfortunately, is not nearly fast enough.
@rjquillin I would love to see video of that.
@rjquillin Well, you don’t actually want to purchase all the offers, do you? It’s good to have only a few of them be things you want.
Canned wines?
@rjquillin
Yes, they’re all the rage - hard seltzer notwithstanding. We sampled some canned Rose at Point of the Bluffs Vineyards during our recent Finger Lakes vacation.
@chipgreen @rjquillin They are mighty handy at picnics and the like. I posted a little while back about a Bonny Doon fizzy Rose that I enjoyed.
In other news… Does the world really need a Riedel crystal Coke glass? Much as I enjoy an icy cold Diet Coke, this strikes me as a bit over the top.
@rjquillin Not a fan. We have a restaurant that was just opened by some friends of ours. It’s called The Chicken Shack and can be quite irreverent! But, they make some mighty fine chicken there! Nothing fancy. They have gone the route of canned wines. There was a distributer there doing a tasting. One red was passable by our standards. One white might have been passable, but it wasn’t chilled properly.
When given those options, we go with beer. Local, draught beer, if possible!
@chipgreen @InFrom @rjquillin @ScottW58 A couple of years ago we stayed a few nights in a really cool boutique hotel in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada. They serve “breakfast in bed”. Well, they bring your breakfast at around the designated time and you may choose where you would like to eat it in your room–they do provide two comfy chairs with a cute side table between. I digress. But they do include freshly squeezed OJ and we knew it. So, we picked up some bubbly in cans at one of the local wineries or at the LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario). It made for VERY nice mimosas!
@bahwm @chipgreen @InFrom @rjquillin
Now that sounds like a good use for a canned wine but for me that situation does not come up often enough to actually seek out and buy canned wines.
Fizzy wine in a can?! Sounds like they figured out a way to sell flawed wine
Hey, it’s still wine in a can, I didn’t hold it to that high a standard. Or any standard, really. I learned after the fact that he carbonated after the fact. It was enjoyable despite all of the above. And some good reading on the can, and on the site.
https://shop.bonnydoonvineyard.com/product/La-Bulle-Moose-de-Cigare-4-pack
@InFrom
I stand corrected
@ScottW58 Try it, you might like it!
I can see where my original description might not sound appealing.
@InFrom @ScottW58
I didn’t realize that carbonation had a “legal threshold”.
@chipgreen @ScottW58 I guess when you’re a winemaker trying to stay clear of the revenooers you have to be on top of these things.
@InFrom
Oh i’m sure it can be tasty it’s just with all the wine I have I just don’t really have a place for canned wines.
@InFrom @ScottW58 but, but, the pops is coming up in a couple of months.
@InFrom @rjquillin @ScottW58
Poppin’ tops at the Pops!
@InFrom @rjquillin
Naw we are classy at the pop’s we bring real stems and we have table cloths, thanks Cory
@rjquillin @ScottW58 Are you suggesting I drank it from the can? What kind of barbarian do you take me for?
Hey, have you guys been voting for Iron Horse? They’re falling behind! Do it here: https://buff.ly/2SyWhu1
@bahwm Done
Looks like we can vote once a day.
@bahwm @rjquillin
You can vote from different devices. You might be able to vote from different browsers, too.
@karenhynes @rjquillin
@bahwm @karenhynes @rjquillin
They should entice us to vote with a Casemates offer.
@karenhynes Clever - clearly the “Chicago way”: vote early, vote often!
@Mark_L
Chicago born and raised!!
I have been voting!
Iron Horse is falling behinder. . .
Interesting thread over on meh.
@winedavid49 @dave @chipgreen
“Casemates will give you tools to share orders with other people in your area”
Still waiting…
@rjquillin Yeah, that’d be nice.
Also easier ways to get people to respond to ongoing gathering threads. I still haven’t heard from Bill over in the SoCal thread!
@klezman @rjquillin I’m going to be a last minute decision. So keep me on the maybe list.
@merrybill @rjquillin Got it!
Hope you guys can make it!
From the old site…
Just NO!
@rjquillin
@rjquillin
Please tell me @winedavid49 had nothing to do with procuring that offer.
@karenhynes @rjquillin @Winedavid49
But what if you need to smuggle wine into a sporting event? It’s way less conspicuous than a beer hat!
@karenhynes @klezman @Winedavid49
Four knockers wouldn’t get attention?
Well, I guess in LA some could add two and not get noticed.
@karenhynes @rjquillin did not!
bump for @karenhynes to post a pic…
@rjquillin
Try the what are you drinking thread
@chipgreen Just trying to see if we can get some additional activity here.
@chipgreen @rjquillin
Problem is that you no longer can have competitions regarding post counts (who can get to the next 1,000 post level) and other tomfoolery we used to have.
It also helped having people post late night (ala TommytheCat, Cheron98, Nallie, etc.), and jwhite posted morning recaps.
Along with the usual “Good night, jwhite6114. Good work. Sleep well. I’ll most likely kill you in the morning.”, from Nallie.
@chipgreen @MarkDaSpark I do miss the earlier days.
You want pics I have pics…the bathroom at my work.
Would any sane person (here) actually consider purchasing one of these Plum things at somewhere between $1500~$2000?
But, to it’s credit, it has a quad core 1.2GHz processor and a gig of ram and dual 2 mega pixel cameras and is well connected, 2.4 GHz b/g/n wireless, or wired.
What, no fiber?
And a 1024 x 600 IPS display just to tell you what bottle(s) you put inside.
Just to dispense wine?
They even offer a Zalto as an accessory.
Looking at ya @scottw58
@rjquillin. Sure, if I had to spend $30 million dollars to make $270 million!
@rjquillin It looks like someone saw a Coravin and thought: “you know what, that isn’t real luxury… People who don’t live in gated communities can afford those, we need something more exclusive.”
As someone who has drank at establishments with crappy tap lines, and have worked behind the bar, this machine is worthless without addressing that.
Hell, take a page from the espresso machines and sell a custom descaling (in this case, cleaning) bottle that you hook up after every use (revenue streams hooray!) to carefully make sure your little wine computer is pristine.
Right? It has one spout for two wines? What happens in between white and red pours? Does it discharge some water through the lines that goes into a separate resevoir? No? Then you are like a middle-schooler at a soda fountain putting every option in the cup.
(Plum can send me a prototype after taking my suggestions to heart… I promise to report back!)
@rjquillin
Umm yeah I already have a cool looking wine preserver that I never use
@KNmeh7 Funny, they also sell a cleaning kit, but it does have two separate dispensing spouts, one for each bottle.
@KNmeh7 @rjquillin The best wine preservation systems are (a) the Repour and (b) Ron’s homemade argon dispenser.
@klezman @KNmeh7 @rjquillin Amazon was trying to tell me this was a deal at $2k. Their deal of the day ain’t what it used to be!
FYI, you have around 5 hours left to buy two new Woot Monkeys using their App (Appsclusive). Geometric or Space capes.
Apparently, I’m officially a tropical storm!
I hope I don’t escalate too much and wreak too much havoc. Apologies in advance to all in my path!
@karenhynes Have fun in Puerto Rico!
@karenhynes. Sadly, you’ve been downgraded to a depression.
@MarkDaSpark
Quite appropriate these days.
@karenhynes
@rjquillin
Apparently, “storm Karen” is confuzzled and not sure where she’s going. Much like real Karen.
Happy New Year, everybody! This pub is so quiet these days. Here’s a some reading for you wineaux from the WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/grape-growers-felt-the-squeeze-in-2019-and-2020-looks-no-friendlier/2020/01/03/f58a9d96-2d6e-11ea-bcb3-ac6482c4a92f_story.html Hopefully there’s no paywall to stop you.
@InFrom Thanks for bumping the Pub.
Good news, no pay-wall, but the article does paint some doom&gloom.
@InFrom @rjquillin Good on Ali to get quoted in here. It should bring them some publicity and hopefully sales.
One thing that goes unmentioned is how much more expensive California wine is compared to its equivalents around the rest of the world.
But on the (maybe) bright side, perhaps @WineDavid49 is working on ways to get some excellent surplus juice into
Woot Cellars, ahem Casemates Cellars bottles for us.@InFrom @klezman @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Where is the Smith Story Casemates offer?
here’s a random request. does anyone remember the simple wood 12 bottle counter top wine rack sold on the old site (it was part of a case offer) way back when? if so, can you produce a picture of it? we can’t find any !
@Winedavid49
This?
https://wine.woot.com/offers/mandolina-italian-varietal-case-with-wooden-wine-rack
@karenhynes Dang you are good!
@karenhynes this is it! I think it was bamboo.
Is this it?
https://wine.woot.com/offers/12-bottle-cubby-wine-rack-feb-25
https://sellout.woot.com/offers/kamenstein-butterfly-wine-rack
@karenhynes This (the first one) bears a strong resemblance to the one that came in the case deal. Mandolina, that’s a nice blast from the wine.woot past!
@InFrom
Agreed. I think its the same, just photographed differently.
@InFrom @karenhynes
What year were these offered?
@InFrom @rjquillin
Definitely no earlier than February 2009.
I don’t see any posting date on the listing though.
@karenhynes You are spot on!
Mandolina Italian Varietal Case with Wooden Wine Rack
Mar '09 - Mandolina Italian Varietal Case with Wooden Wine Rack $154.99 + $5 shipping Condition: Varietal Products: 1 Mandolina Italian Varietal Case 1 Wooden Wine Rack…
Here’s the link to the right forum: https://forums.woot.com/t/mandolina-italian-varietal-case-with-wooden-wine-rack/55209/2
Pouring one (glass of Beaujolais nouveau) out for Georges Duboeuf.
@karenhynes
Hey, where’s the Mr. of the Month?
@rjquillin
Ooops I never posted Mr February, did I? It’ll be fine to meet Mr March this weekend, if I’m feeling better. Might have to post a double!
@karenhynes @rjquillin
Enquiring minds want to know!
/giphy National-Enquirer
@MarkDaSpark @rjquillin
Well, it’s happened.
Banned from work, with no hint when I’ll be able to return.
Not sick, or symptomatic, nor is anyone else at work.
Just seems I’m in the more highly susceptible demographic that is now being discriminated against working.
Am I pissed? You bet, and then some!
Thank you Gavin Newsom.
@rjquillin sorry dude! crazy times indeed. rooting for you Rjquillin!
@rjquillin
Yeah man i’m setting up my office at home as we speak. Good lord two or six weeks at home with my wife sounds like it could be a problem
@ScottW58 Mine is still working, for now…
@rjquillin Pain in the ass, yes. Necessary evil, also yes. The biggest mistake we can make is treating this as less serious than it is. Not alarmist, just being realistic and acknowledging the math here.
Confirmed cases in LA County have been going up by 30-50% daily. Obviously part of that is due to testing ramping up finally, but keep in mind that the true number of cases is somewhere between 10-500x the number of confirmed cases.
And yeah, you’re in the demographic that’s not just at elevated risk, but at massively increased risk.
It sucks that your job is not something one can do remotely, but I also thought the bunny suits could help keep things going there.
Read this: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca. Not alarmist. Just math.
We’ve got at least 5 weeks without kiddo at school and the nanny has a cold (not a coronavirus) so we don’t even have her to look after the baby. We also both have full time jobs to attend to. This is screwing up life for just about everybody.
@klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58 My work site closed their doors to all but critical staff late last week. We are all wfh for the foreseeable future. Wife and kids also home. At least we won’t be running out of wine!
@hscottk @rjquillin @ScottW58 We’ve not mandated work from home, but we are encouraging it. In our huge office space we now have about 200 square feet per person who shows up each day.
@hscottk @klezman @rjquillin
also it doesn’t hurt that I don’t really like people 
Well my first day working from home and I gotta say that I’m liking this! After I got everything setup anyways
@hscottk @klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58 unless they’re wine drinking people, right? I thought you liked me
@hscottk @klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin
Well yeah I like wine people who don’t annoy me…sorry Cory
@rjquillin my office did the same thing. Sent all those 65+ home. I think it’s the right call.
whats especially difficult is that demographic is often times less tech savvy with the current work from home set ups so its a big adjustment.
@CorTot Yeah, well, it’s really difficult to be ‘hands-on’ with hardware from home…
I’m not a paper pusher.
And you don’t annoy me.
@rjquillin lol, that’s a good point.
Think of it as a well earned extended vacation with only minor apocalyptic tones.
@CorTot @rjquillin is there a video of your work, or the type of work you do? that’d be cool.
@CorTot @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Coming up with that video could be something to keep you busy while you’re at home.
@CorTot @Winedavid49 @pseudogourmet98
Video, that would be boring.
Here is the company site with some pics of older cameras.
The site hasn’t been updated with newer stuff.
Another link to an article and video (of sorts)
taken with one of our cameras on Curiosity Rover from Mars.
I’ll see if I can dig up something a bit more interesting.
@CorTot @rjquillin @Winedavid49
What’s not interesting about that? Keep them coming
@CorTot @ScottW58 @Winedavid49
Ok, one more…
This from Elsa in ops.
Today, (actually May of 2018) the Planetary Society posted a blog about the Mastcam-Z hardware in the process of being built at MSSS, including many photos taken here at our company:
pic of the lab, I’m in the background, and some hardware photos
Thank you to Mike Ravine for supplying Mastcam-Z images, and to Ravine, Greg, Shaun and Ron for allowing and helping me take pictures in the hardware lab here at MSSS. Last but not least, thank you to Mike Malin for his editorial input to the piece.
@CorTot @ScottW58 @Winedavid49
One of four cameras scheduled for launch this July, two of which I built the electronics for.
@CorTot @pseudogourmet98 @rjquillin that was VERY cool.
My work is still operating normally ( with precautions in place) however I have chosen to relocate from Salt Lake City now that community spread has started happening, to my vacation home in south eastern Idaho in a small town of less than 500 residents. Fortunately for me I can conduct business there as I just need phone, computer and internet which I have.
Stay home stay safe and we should all come out the other side in a month or so I hope.
I am required to be at work. Teachers and classified are not.
@losthighwayz With schools closed, what’s to do?
@losthighwayz @rjquillin teach from home? I’m getting small lessons plans daily for my son.
@losthighwayz @rjquillin
I don’t know about Lost, but I am working more than before closing campus and initiating remote learning, not less.
Wow, I didn’t realize the CyberPub was still alive and well on Casemates. It may be the only pub that’s open for the next 2-3 weeks, at least where I’m at. And I hate to admit it but I’m going to have a glass right now even though it’s only 4pm. My happy hour is starting early today. Cheers and hope everyone is doing okay.
@WCCWineGirl if i recall the original wine girl on the other site that won’t be mentioned (REALLY good beer cheese on there right now) played an early role in the CyberPub! cool beens.
ok, i give. Please suggest binge watching shows. i’ll go first. Parks and Rec (start at season 3) or Breaking Bad
@Winedavid49 I’m planning to go back to 30 Rock. Also, not a TV show, but a nice diversion if you like that kind of thing, the Metropolitan Opera is streaming one old broadcast per day, for 24 hours. “La Fille du Regiment”, today’s offering, is fun.
I’ve also been meaning to check out “The Good Place”. I think this list from the NYT should be viewable, they’ve dropped the paywall for all things coronavirus.
@InFrom @winefarm will love the Opera suggestion! good call on 30 Rock. We are going to view a few old Taxi episodes to see if it still holds up and if our 15 year old would like it. stay tuned.
@InFrom @Winedavid49 @winefarm
My wife’s 10+ dr / hospital dramas are all I can take
Never would have dreamed that there could be a police drama followed by a fire fighter drama followed by a hospital drama.
I need to find something full of laughs.
@Winedavid49 Six Feet Under and Pushing Daises, oh, and Firefly.
Best song, Doors; Strange Days.
@InFrom @Winedavid49 @winefarm @CorTot: not “ha-ha” funny, but Good Omens on Amazon Prime does a good job with Neil Gaiman - Terry Pratchett material
@CorTot @davirom @InFrom @Winedavid49 @winefarm
What are you talking about? I haha’d a lot with good omens!
@CorTot @InFrom @ScottW58 @Winedavid49 @winefarm I am with Cory in looking for lighter fare. Seems most of the original series on Netflix or Prime are dark. I breezed through The Mandolorian, also grim and IMO not much fun. Should have named it The Baby Yoda Show, the Mandolorian was supporting cast.
@CorTot @davirom @InFrom @ScottW58 @Winedavid49 @winefarm Silicon Valley
I’m not too much of a tv show binge watcher. More of a movie gal but that may change with all the good suggestions. Happy Saturday everyone. Thanks for hanging out.
@WCCWineGirl finally watched Once upon a Time in Hollywood. i thought it was great.
So how is this ‘work at home’ going for ya’ll?
I ended up setting up a mini shop so I could do mechanical sub-assembly work that doesn’t require an ESD compliant workstation. Happened to already have an environmental oven in my garage shop I could use to cure polymerics, but had to get a 180l 230psi dewer of LN2 to keep it purged.
Bugger weighs over 240 kilos full.
Fortunately the local gas supply house, after some arm twisting, agreed to deliver to a residential address. Work required I set up an O2 sensor to insure I didn’t suffocate should it leak without notice. All in all, kinda interesting, but at least I’m not bored out of my gourd and can still be somewhat productive for the time being…
@rjquillin you may be the second most interesting man in the world
@radiolysis Should have mentioned too the adhesive, Henkel Loctite EA 9394 AERO Epoxy, needs to be kept cold after mixing; better than -75C, so a double insulated cooler and dry ice fill that bill.
Yeah, it’s kinda fun.
How you feeling?
You really can’t see much, a lot going on internally, but here are a couple of images of one I finished earlier today.
There are ffour internal ‘vanes’ that act as shades for the imager to hopefully eliminate glare and reflections.
@rjquillin no idea what that even is, but I’m impressed.
@rjquillin Do you use any Mitutoyo gear?
@Mark_L We do.
MF-176 series similar to pictured, but with a rotary stage, mostly for measuring and correcting for Z-axis sensor tilt; 400x optics iirc.
@rjquillin I retired from Mitutoyo about 1.5 years ago. I was a software specialist for the vision and CMM measuring systems. I worked on some MF units that had a camera so they could be programmed into (manual stage) automatic measuring systems.
@Mark_L There are three or four of us here that have “qualified” on the system we have. We have a golden unit and to qualify you have to be within 0.00003" of the mean on the Z-axis height measuremen of the pixel plane on on the sensor die surface. It’s amazing how porous aluminium and alumina (case, not die) are at those mags.
@Mark_L @rjquillin Wow, that’s some insanely tight tolerance.
@klezman @rjquillin Mitutoyo’s most precise measuring systems (contact and vision) have scale resolutions of .0000003937" (.01 microns), and accuracy specifications of around .000012" (.3 microns).
@klezman @Mark_L My comment on on porosity is really the limiting factor when dealing with “not smooth” surfaces. When we’re looking at a die surface of an imager (pixels) repeatability is actually much easier as the surface is, relatively smooth. But as we’re trying to make a wedge shim to insert between the case and the lens, we have to deal with machined aluminium surfaces that are just plain ugly. The granularity is pretty astounding, and trying to judge the “top” isn’t easy, have to look for shaved off tops of the granular structure and estimate.
@klezman @Mark_L @rjquillin
Wait what?! You’re enjoying working from home now? Thank you Gavin Gruesome!
@klezman @Mark_L @ScottW58
Killing what’s left of the economy, but I’m still trying to do my part.
Getting paid for not working just isn’t my style.
There are, however, a limited number of things I can do from here.
@ScottW58
Gruesome? Intentional or autocorrect?
I had a bunch of Flannery arrive today…shortloin tails for dinner!
@klezman
love the short tails!
Intentional and I think Ron’s long winded grumpy answer means yes
@klezman @ScottW58
Looks like I get an “Essential Worker” or whatever they call it card, so I don’t get locked up if I’m stopped while out and about doing essential work.
I could make this longer winded…
@klezman @rjquillin
Well I’m glad to hear that with all your complaing you’re happy working at home… doing essential things
So I see on the Meh sale page for the QPR today, there’s a $10 casemates coupon, TRYCASEMATES, valid this month.
Wine Tour 2020
@davirom I like the secret stash in the closet. But the bathroom?
@Mark_L Well, it is the guest bathroom. Besides, white wines go through you quicker because they don’t have to change color.
@davirom
Sorry but only one possible reason to take a bottle of wine to the bathroom is…
@davirom @ScottW58 Oh no! What was it? Quita do Poco something something? Flawed or you just didn’t like it?
@davirom @ScottW58 I disagree about wine in the bathroom. A nice glass of wine (or more) while soaking in a jetted tub is fabulous. In the WC itself is a whole other thing.
@davirom @pseudogourmet98
LOL sadly I don’t have a jetted tub.
@davirom @ScottW58 Looking more closely, is it this? https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=3357084 I have three coming and I hope that’s not a mistake!
@davirom @klezman @ScottW58 OMG, I’ve got a '95 Quinta do Poco something something in the cellar!
@davirom @klezman
Nope mine was a 95 Riserva not cab. Tasted a lot like herbed tomatoes to me, hated it. Still have one left it anyone wants it for free! I think a last bottle purchase.
https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=963538&searchId=34368B16%23selected%3DW963538_104_K9dc23b49879d581634fa9c8cbdb4e7d7
Two screaming children. A perfect night for wine.
@klezman
Yup pretty sure screaming children is what sent me down this path
@klezman Just wait until they are sullen teenagers
@klezman
I’ll see your two screaming children and raise you one surly 20 year old man-child and three octogenarian grandparents.
@pseudogourmet98 Tough call…the older ones you can just tell them to amuse themselves and they understand the concept of “but we need to work”. But surly 20 year olds are a whole other ball of annoying.
@InFrom
/giphy poof!
no more user
@rjquillin Please help me understand what’s going on here.
@ddeuddeg @rjquillin Some interloper left junk links on a few of the threads this morning. A little whisper to a mod, and poof!
@ddeuddeg @InFrom @rjquillin I saw those and figured the user would be short lived.
@InFrom @rjquillin Makes sense now, LOL. Thanks.
email wine sales,
this from Invino
Low on Wine? We Have You Covered!
just make me laugh
even if it is only $11
Ever drop a small pellet of dry ice into a glass for a quick chill?
Or perhaps a wee dram of LN2?
Lately I seen to have quite the assortment to tinker with.
@rjquillin Winesicles!!!
@rjquillin Yes. Also with liquid N2 it’s a fun way to make ice cream.
@klezman @rjquillin I’ve never made it, but I have had it in an ice-cream shop. Decadent, it was!
Case of Pedroncelli Rosè on Meh
/giphy violent-whispering-fig
California Man Climbs Under Wine Truck, Drinks from Tank not much else to say…
@rjquillin clearly this was supposed to be Florida Man.
Friend of mine said I gave him a bottle of
2017 Shannon Ridge Vineyard Pinot Noir Urgency
that I have no CT record of (no surprise there).
Has anyone seen this and know where it may have been sold?
Did WD offer something by this name?
@rjquillin Yes
@klezman
Terse, and accurate reply…
Anything besides the (3) CS and SB?
@cortot you ever see this at GO?
@klezman @rjquillin Don’t recall seeing it but if its a CA designation i assume its bulk juice and typically skip it.
@CorTot @klezman Dunno. Gave one to Hakeem, and he and a local winemaker liked it. Trying to figure out where I got it. GO is my best guess.
@CorTot @klezman @rjquillin
Top stores: Casemates (51 bottles); Winestyr (3 bottles); Publix (2 bottles); AJ’s (1 bottles); Gift (1 bottles)
@rjquillin this looks and sounds like an Invino offer
@chipgreen @CorTot @klezman
You must be looking at the CS or SB chip; no CM store listings at all I see for any of the three the PN vintages.
@CorTot @klezman @rjquillin
Oops, you’re right that was the CS.
@losthighwayz @rjquillin
https://www.vivino.com/urgency-pinot-noir/w/5901770?year=2017
@CorTot @losthighwayz
Friar Tuck Online- Springfield IL, the vivino link, has had this listed now for nearly a year. I found where I emailed him the link last July.
fs/case, but not near that level of interest.
I still think GO. vague memory. thanks all.
Two hours with Brian and Katie Flannery is worth a pub post, and the time to watch it.
This is so nice to see. I got my first Flannery beef with the latest hanger deal. I’ll be back.
Santa Ana deliveries?
Pretty sure I’ve got some bottles for a few near or in Santa Ana. Looks like I’ll be up there tomorrow for a source inspection for work. Let me know if I have something for you, and if I can find it this evening perhaps we can do an exchange.
@rjquillin If you’re stopping by WineX you could pick up my outstanding bottles. Or not. Up to you, of course.
@rjquillin Just saw this, so today is out. I have 10 for you and you have a similar # for me (I’ll detail in an email soon), so next time you’re in the area LMK. I’m about 20 min. N of WineX.
@merrybill If you stop by WineX also please feel free to pick my stuff up. I don’t often get down there.
@klezman @merrybill
A, kinda, quick up and back, at least the driving part.
Traffic was moving right along. If I wasn’t doing 75~80 I was getting passed. Lots of lurking about.
Long day doing inspections, didn’t even break for lunch.
So, no pickups or deliveries for me or anyone else.
Is it safe to be out and about now? Thoughts?
@losthighwayz Depends on your definition of “out and about”.
Based on my reading and bioscience background, it seems like the LA County recommendations still make a ton of sense. Stay home when possible, or go outside in sparesely populated spots. Wear a mask if you’re near others or inside any indoor public place.
Above all, remember that the greatest danger may not be to you, but to the other people you know who might be higher risk. Especially people who have any blood pressure-related or diabetes-related comorbidities or people who are above (approx) 55 years of age.
FWIW, I took the toddler to the beach a week ago. That day, at least, it was easy enough to keep enough distance. The ocean breeze also helps disperse any droplets so long as you’re not a short(ish) distance directly downwind. When we were walking on city streets near the beach, though, masks were on.
@klezman @losthighwayz
When you were walking the streets was everyone else wearing a mask because I thought the mask only protects other people from you?
@losthighwayz @ScottW58 You’re correct in that it is much more effective at stopping outbound transmission than inbound reception. Most people in my neighbourhood either wear one all the time or are extra careful to stay fairly far apart. Personally, I’m satisfied with people’s compliance.
I keep a mask handy when I’m walking around with the kiddo or at the park. But I only put it on when others are nearby. That, to me, is a perfectly reasonable trade-off. (I also get a kick out of the people who wear masks when alone driving their cars. Makes no sense whatsoever.)
@klezman @losthighwayz @ScottW58 I see what you did there…
He’s Canadian not a monster !
@CorTot @klezman @losthighwayz
Lol Cory really knows me
@CorTot @klezman @losthighwayz @ScottW58
An interesting read…
fixed link with thanks to Klez
@CorTot @losthighwayz @ScottW58 Leave it to the Canadian to assume friendly ribbing and nothing more
Let’s face it - wearing a mask sucks. But it’s important. It’s too bad that much of the transmission appears to be from asymptomatic carriers. It would be so much easier if it was like the flu and you had to actually feel sick to be contagious.
@karenhynes Saw that the other day. Very interesting indeed. There was also a paper just pre-published showing that the number of ACE2 receptors in nasal epithelium seems to increase with age. At least up to age 60. That could be a partial explanation as to why kids appear to be less susceptible to becoming infected (and maybe also why they are less susceptible to the more severe cases as well).
@klezman I wear my mask in the car if I’m coming home from the store, as not to have to touch my mask or face with potentially contaminated hands. Then I’ll wash hands, take off mask, wash hands. I am overly cautious, but my hands are a nice shade of chapped!
@klezman @radiolysis That’s exactly our routine as well. What a pain in the ass.
@CorTot @karenhynes @klezman @losthighwayz @ScottW58 I get a 404 error with that link, which is fine, I probably would only undersand about half of it anyway.
@CorTot @InFrom @karenhynes @losthighwayz @ScottW58 Correct link: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all
(Some FB tracking stuff was added to it incorrectly).
I keep sanitizer inside my car and wear a nitrile glove (or two) for shopping. Load stuff into the car, get in, sanitize hands with the sanitizer I keep in there, then touch the inside of the car. Same basic idea, just I do it in the car.
Yes, total pain in the ass.
And, unsurprisingly, a week or so after LA County has relaxed restrictions we have an uptick in cases. Over 1800 new cases today, although “some” are from a testing backlog. Unless almost half of them are backlog results, this is a large increase from the roughly 1000 per day we’ve had the last week or two.
@klezman
Absolute numbers may increase, but how is the rate of positives/tested trending?
@rjquillin I don’t know - I haven’t looked closely at that particular data stream. My sense is that more people are getting tested regardless of symptoms and they’ve also started testing (e.g.) all workers in nursing homes to be safe. So I’d expect the rate of positive tests given having a test to go down.
But I’m not sure what you’re thinking that will tell us. With testing more widely available, you no longer need symptoms in LA County to get a test.
Two tests are really needed. First the RT-PCR test or similar that measures active infections. Systematic or asymmetric this is possible the best way to know the % of the population who have contracted the virus. Test two which currently has a very high false-positive rate would be an antibody test. Because we have truly only tested people who are symptomatic and those who had contact we really on have tested 5% of the population. We have little to no clue about asymmetric people. A reliable titer needs to be developed. However, ever after we do not know how long the immune system keeps this virus in its profile. It could very well be like the flu, slight shifts in the protein coat and the body can’t recognize it.
@klezman Absolute positive number may be higher, but % of those tested positive could be lower.
Absolute number is worthless. It will always increase while testing is done, unless this is totally eliminated, which is unlikely.
@rjquillin Still not seeing what your logic train is, Ron. Sorry…
I’m not talking total number ever tested positive. I’m looking at the daily trends.
@jml326 First, I love that your autocorrect changed “asymptomatic” to “asymmetric”. Unless you really meant people lacking symmetry
Yes, the two tests tell us different things. And yes, the antibody tests to date have had pretty terrible accuracy. (Even before the true PPV can be assessed given the actual seroprevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.)
On a positive note, recent research suggests that SARS-Cov-1 antibodies provide some protection against SARS-CoV-2. The evidence so far suggests that the spike protein is not evolving particularly quickly, which makes sense - if it evolved too quickly it would lose its ability to attach to ACE2. Newly released evidence also suggests that antibodies persist for some time, and appear to confer some immunity. What’s not clear is to what extent.
I’ve gone a bit overkill I think, but I can choose my protection level. Box of gloves, if I’m really nervous about what I may have to handle, with a pair in my pocket on the way in.
In the car, a storage container with ~20 or so Handi-Wipes in the container, swimming in some 99% IPA. Second container for the used wipes/gloves. Back to car, open door, grab box(s) and open both, wipe anything I’ve touched (CC, keys, door handle, storage boxes) old wipe into the used box and close both.
So far it’s seemed to work…
Mask, yes, when required within a store, or in proximity to others.
So many people on FB and acquaintances in the LA area roaming around in groups maskless. Ticks me off but then makes me wonder if I am the fool for listening and protecting myself but more importantly my family. Tired of people saying it’s an overreaction, an attack on Trump, etc
Can somebody tell me the easiest way to post images on this site?
@Mark_L I think the easiest way is taking a pic with a tablet which has the “attach image” feature. Or I take a pic on my iPhone which shares to an iPad. I’m sure it works similarly in the Android world.
@hscottk @Mark_L How do either of those get an image into a comment here?
@hscottk @klezman I tried Imgur (which seems to work well for @ScottW58, but nothing showed up here. I finally tried using the “upload image” option and that worked.
@klezman @Mark_L @ScottW58 The twin peaks/sun icon to the right of the 1s and 0s icon (only seen on iPad not iPhone) lets you upload a photo from your library.
@hscottk @Mark_L @ScottW58 Yeah, I have that on the desktop version but not the Android mobile browser. Which is, of course, where my photos would most likely be.
@hscottk @klezman @Mark_L @ScottW58 In chrome on Android I just got to the menu and switch to “desktop site”. The attach file icon then shows up and you upload from your phones pics. Clunky, but it works. Who would have thought in 2020 it would be such a pain.
@hscottk @klezman @Mark_L right click the picture then pick “copy image address” then paste in the image upload thing.
Reading some of the mod chatter on meh shipping…
While many here have issues and think UPS really sucks, check out the comments about P-B shipping, if you have an hour or two.
https://meh.com/forum/topics/pitney-bowes-complaint-thread
@winedavid49 it could be a whole lot worse.
@rjquillin is that why my coffee has taken almost two weeks to get here from Texas?
That thread was Xtra Large Popcorn AWESOME!
I too have a package in the P-B abyss with no idea when or if it will show up. Luckily, nothing meh! sells is of critical importance to me. They’re going to have a “fun” Xmas season if they don’t get this fixed.
EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!
FYI, Pedroncelli Friends cases (Red or White) up on Meh!
@MarkDaSpark Yes it is.
https://casemates.com/forum/topics/deals#5ed9c37f8d06c20450d2dd3a
50 best wine retailers, according to WE.
Sorry, couldn’t find an open link.
10 categories of five each.
I had to look.
best online 5 of 5
best clubs 0/5
education programs 0/5
back vintage 2/5
natural 0/5
best rare 3/5
best overall 3/5
best single focus (?) 0/5
value driven (qpr) 2/5
shop design (I care?) 0/5
So, overall, 11 of 50.
I’m somewhat worried worried.
@rjquillin kind of need to know who they are
@ScottW58
Found a link but no way to login to do a cut-n-paste, and not gonna do that much typing, yet.
Ah, clicking on the square(s) does seem to allow access.
ymmv
bump
So who else was inundated with people firing off fireworks well into the early morning hours over the weekend? Grumble.
@klezman Interesting to watch the news helo coverage of your lit-up sky.
@klezman @rjquillin Fortunately they sounded far away here.
@rjquillin @ScottW58 Most were far enough away, but there were some that were within a block or two. Schmucks.
@klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58
I love fireworks but my cats are less enthusiastic.
@chipgreen @klezman @ScottW58
As do I; but the near total shutdown of public displays in the XXX of CA was depressing.
I fully understand why individuals would diy.
@klezman it’s been a problem here in the heart of Bmore for over a month now, they have been lightn’ off stuff since the marches and protests started. I’m surprised they have not run out of products, but some is more gun than straight noise.
@bunnymasseuse @klezman Yeah, it’s been a big news story here in NYC for several weeks. Macy’s-level fireworks displays at all hours.
Anybody bought into/tasted any of the De Negoce offerings - if so, any thoughts?
@ctmariner Nope. But if the SoCal crew wants to split one at some point I’d probably try. Cameron Hughes is good at what he does, so I’d expect great qpr which leaves it as a question of style.
I just randomly learned where Peter’s Mohrhardt Ridge Cabernet is going: Red Car.
Oh yeah - they’re charging $85. I wish Peter was still making wine!
https://redcarwine.com/collection/cabernet-sauvignon
Will be in Bodega Bay for a week. Haven’t been there in 10 years! Any zin and/or pinot winery recs in RRV, DCV, Alexander Valley? Thanks
@losthighwayz
Gotta be a hundred offhand but are any of them open during the current lockdown? or restaurants for that matter.
@losthighwayz Iron Horse is open for outdoor tastings. Smith Story, too.
@ScottW58 most with outdoor seating are open. Kinda takes away from the tasting room experience which I enjoy. Sucks but it is what it is.
@ScottW58 what would be your top 3 for Zin and PN, respectively?
@klezman Green Valley penciled in for one day. Likely IH, Dutton, and Marimar unless there’s another place you recommend? Also need to make sure kid friendly
@losthighwayz No idea, head north to Oregon and I can help you out
@losthighwayz @ScottW58 Zin and Pinot I’d go to see Randy at Harvest Moon.
Teldeschi has some good Zins
@losthighwayz You should head up to Fort Ross, both the Winery and the old Russian Fort. I have no idea if either is open. Great Pinots.
@merrybill checked out their website. They are rather close to Bodega Bay and the winery grounds are awesome. Added to our list! Thanks
POPSOCKETS! SPA KITS! POLLY POCKETS! AWESOME!
@losthighwayz added Pax and Furthermore to our list.
Posted on main thread then thought better of it. In any event, here are my thoughts about Brick Barn
not be popular as usual but not a fan of their wines. Been there twice and walked away with the same impression. My wife agreed along with friends who’ve visited on different occasions. Disjointed across the board imo.
Beautiful grounds, views, and service though.
Just sharing my personal experience. Others might feel otherwise
@losthighwayz fair enough. It looks like they have very young vines and little experience. I’d bet they’ll improve over time.
@losthighwayz Would I pay retail price, no. Is it worth $16.00, I don’t know yet. It does better with food than without.
@losthighwayz
Thanks Lost, pretty sure WD would appreciate it as well.
While tolerated, it is a bit more diplomatic to air the laundry here rather than there.
And I see @klezman resurrected the Poli"ticks" IV thread as well.
@klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin
To me, the point of the product discussion is to weigh the pros and cons of a possible purchase. I disagree that negative comments should be relegated to alternate discussion threads.
I don’t care for the especially mean-spirited posts that sometimes crop up but sharing one’s real world experience with a wine/winery is valuable information when considering a purchase and should be readily accessible to those in the act of doing so.
@klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin
Now that I have read through the product thread, I see that Lydia’s husband just took over the winemaking duties with the last harvest.
Your comment about the wines having been disjointed both times you were there could have been a product of the previous winemaker’s efforts and is perhaps why they made a change but now that’s just speculation in a sidebar discussion.
@chipgreen @klezman @losthighwayz
“wow” didn’t add much to the discussion.
The further explanation here answered the comment. Could it have been there, sure, you know I won’t mod it out. It is thoughtful, imo, to try not to alienate a first time vendor. Again, just my opinion.
Rather surprised, One of them asked how to post a pic, but last I checked nothing up yet.
Time for me to go home now…
@klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin
I think he did a ctrl-x of what you see above and replaced it with “Wow!” (maybe didn’t know that he could just delete?) but that is also speculation. Only his hairdresser knows for sure!
@chipgreen @losthighwayz @rjquillin Yeah, what chip said 3 posts up (since there’s no way to refer to a specific post otherwise).
@klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin
Four score and three posts up ago…
Haha, sorry I am feeling a little silly this evening for some reason. Haven’t even had a drink. I think work is getting to me!
The block quote thing works reasonably well to refer back to something specific, you just have to copy it from the previous post then paste it in next to the >
Just don’t make the amateur mistake of adding your own comments without a line break between them or it will all end up highlighted, causing confusion as to where the quoted text ended and your text began. I believe RJ pulled this off the other day (snicker).
Anyway, I hope your evenings have become less frustrating since your post from a few days ago!
@chipgreen @klezman @rjquillin truth be told their wines were pretty bad. That being said, I felt bad soonafter I posted and was able to retract on time. I typed wow for no other reason than to avoid a blank comment lol I know, it does not make much sense unless you are tired as heck from checking out Chromebooks and materials to elementary school families nonstop for 8 hours
@chipgreen @losthighwayz @rjquillin We had 3 hours of preschool today. I hear ya.
@chipgreen @klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin But what chip said three posts up only works if nobody sticks a reply in there in the meantime.
EDIT: Never mind, I forgot the system doesn’t put the reply right below the comment being replied to. This is precisely why I rarely bother posting anything on here, or even on the current thread, unless I’ve been chosen as a labrat.
@ddeuddeg
And we do miss the two of you. Don’t be so scarce.
@ddeuddeg @rjquillin Yes, I agree with your diagnosis. Too bad nobody over at Mediocre seems to care.
Not wanting to be snarky on the main page, I find this an interesting comment in the write-up
Didn’t realize Barbera was uncommon nor that Lake County wines should be enjoyed while young
@rjquillin
Well not to be snarky rjq although I usually am looking at the wines they make I see a bunch of unusual varieties, and I am not familiar with any wines coming from Lake County that are known for tgreat longevity of 20 to 40 years.
@rjquillin @ScottW58 Clark’s Cab Franc from Lake County is definitely in the 20+ year wine category. But I think that’s the exception that proves the rule, at least for now.
I expect that Lake County wines will keep increasing in stature unless we reverse climate change.
@klezman @rjquillin
So one wine thats probably heavily manipulated could possibly make old bones does not a case make.
@rjquillin @ScottW58
@klezman @rjquillin @ScottW58 or so he’ll tell you ;)…
Turkey is in the oven! Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
@klezman I remember celebrating Canadian Thanksgiving with a friend in college who was born in Saskatchewan. I forgot to buy a turkey in time to thaw it so I bought a couple of fresh chickens and called them ‘Cornish Game Turkeys’. She never knew the difference.
Whole lot of burning going on in SoCal, Orange County and area. Lot of 'mates there as well. Hoping they all remain safe (evacuations going on) and don’t get damaged.
Went in on the Scott Harvey Mystery and Library case offer, not like I don’t already have enough from Scott, but some interesting bottles showed up.
The normal and expected '17 and '18 Mountain and J&S Syrah (one an '06 J&S) and Barbara, a few Zins, a PS and a couple of twisties.
Interesting and unexpected were bottles of
2017 Wine on 49 Zinfandel Sutter Creek Nouveau
2006 Gazzi Pinot Noir Estate
@rjquillin I was looking at that case. Good to see what some options are
@rjquillin Gazzi?! I thought we bought all of that in the old site!
@winedavid49
Some WW history, over on meh
How’s everybody’s T-giving prep going? Instead of contributing one dish (a massive salad) to a family gathering of 3 dozen+ ppl where every household contributed a component of the meal, I find myself making all the trad courses for the first time in my life. And it’s just the two of us! Though I brought over a couple of meals for my mom and her caregivers.
I followed Kenji’s formula for sous vide turkey breast with crispy skin. Man, that skin is tasty! The turkey came out perfectly tender. I made a couple of drumsticks in the sous vide as well, despite Kenji’s admonition that it’s not worth it. Idk, I think it came out great. Falling off the bone and tender. Only took 16 hours.
Then I made stock, and my first-ever gravy. That gravy is good enough to drink! Right on, Kenji! Cranberry sauce, sweet potato casserole, curried pumpkin soup – clearly I’m subconsciously trying to recreate the happy feelings of Thanksgiving gatherings past. Still on the agenda: apple crumble. And a salad.
Tomorrow’s pairing: I had originally thought the 2013 Onesta Cinsault, but now after all that work I think the meal deserves Clark’s 2007 PN, at the very least.
@InFrom
could be worse I guess. No clue what I’m drinking yet.
Good work love Kenji’s recipes! Have a little 13 pounder in brine for tomorrow’s smoke, cranberry sauce done. Stuffing and gravy tomorrow. Just the kid’s and us
@InFrom
Just have to save a bottle or two of bubbles for the morning Mimosas.
My prep involves gathering up an assorted case of wine and driving 3 hours to my SIL’s place. There will only be 6 of us altogether this year so 12 bottles should be enough!
@chipgreen @InFrom @scottw58 We’re doing lamb this year. And we’ll be eating outside! Still trying to decide on a pairing. Cab, pv, ps, other? Decisions…
@chipgreen @hscottk @InFrom @ScottW58 Just got back from camping last night, going to make a spatchcocked turkey this afternoon and roll with it. This is always our second Thanksgiving of the year, though, since the original one is in October.
@chipgreen Just remember, lift with your knees!
@hscottk Syrah?
@ScottW58 Looking forward to seeing the bottle, whatever it turns out to be.
@infrom too late!
@hscottk
Nice! My bird is almost done, now to choose something really good!
It has a zipper…
I have no comment, well, perhaps,
what are we coming to?
@rjquillin
It gives new meaning to the term “zip your lip”.
@chipgreen @rjquillin
I like and btw f u Ron you are an enabler that is costing me money
@chipgreen @ScottW58
Quit trolling CT.
Occasionally I do silly things.
I should quit work so I don’t have so much discretionary income.
HOCKEY IS BACK!!!
GO LEAFS GO!
@klezman
Lol you meant Kings…right?!
@ScottW58 I mean, as the 4th tier in my priority list, sure:
Leafs
the rest of Canada except Montreal
Other original 6
Montreal
Kings or Sharks (and that’s really generous to the Kings)
other teams except
sunbelt teams
@klezman
Strangely I can completely agree with that list, just switch the Kings and the leafs
@klezman @ScottW58 all I can say is CAPS CSPS CAPS!!!
@bunnymasseuse @ScottW58 Caps? Feh.
I need to moderate in 2021.
Four deliveries from @winedavid49 today at work, cause UPS is, well, UPS. But they have been getting better.
Raised eyebrows…
@rjquillin UPS came, apparently knocked, but neither of us heard, and it’s back on the truck for tomorrow.
We also have more cases of Garagiste arriving today than I’d care to admit.
@klezman Hopefully it’s not as warm there as it’s forecast to be down here.
One more arrived today, sigh.
@rjquillin Just a 3 pack of Peterson. It was slightly warm to the touch, but not terrible. It was pretty hot here today - about 26 degrees.
@klezman
31 down here.
Still have a Wine Spies GSO case flogging around somewhere.
GSO is spot on, the fail is when some imbecile ships GSO to a business address on Friday.
Yes, that would be last Friday.
~NOT happy with WS at the moment~
@rjquillin I need to schedule my case from them, too.