@rjquillin Sometimes it pays to read the comments. Someone over there mentioned a $5 coupon ALLIRKNOBAG

@InFrom @rjquillin doesn’t work here for me

@datruandi @InFrom @rjquillin only works if you bought an IRK in the last Mehrathon.

For those unaware, IRKs always include a reusable bag…but, they were out of stock when the IRKs shipped and instead gave everyone who purchased one a $5 coupon. Said coupon is the same for everyone, but, is account specific.

I got an IRK and the coupon worked just fine here.

@datruandi @PHRoG @rjquillin Sadly, you are correct. Not terribly sadly, just $5 worth of sadly.

@danidani12 I think the fine print says they may not be red BTW…

@jmdavidson1 this didn’t age well lol
WD has had a few bad offers recently

@losthighwayz Based on what I got, no mags for my wine friends. Maybe I’ll gift them to some non-wine savvy friends.

@a5meiser Same boat here… Looking forward to the new case of Cheer and the mystery here!

@PHRoG Ugh, stupid friends! In for another 2.

/giphy glorious-nostalgic-star

@ZeppelinWinery And happy holidays to you, too!

@ZeppelinWinery here’s to hoping for another wine club!

@cocacola08 @ZeppelinWinery SECOND THAT WINE CLUB! I have two, will always take more!

@ZeppelinWinery I love that nod to your label! looking forward to opening this magnum from you all. I’ve never tried Wine Club.

@klezman not a lot

@klezman @Winedavid49 So that’s a maybe? Hahaha

@klezman @Winedavid49 so you didn’t say no……
Sounds like a “not no” to me…

@Springbank My homemade cider is always called Dicken’s Cider. Local radio station had great skit promoting Dicken’s Cider - think Bart Simpson! “nothing keeps gramma warmer on a winter’s day than a nice Dicken’s Cider”

@outdoorslife I share the struggle!

@rpstrong LOL

@mattig88 so are all of my wine holding contraptions

@mattig88 Just don’t go pouring it into a storm drain!

@Lidio @mattig88 I just saw that again yesterday lol.

@gtcharlie seriously, though, I went in for that Two Jakes mystery case and have so far poured four of the bottles down the kitchen sink.

Given that experience and seeing another web site offer multiple outdated bottles for sale today, I am really skittish about anything being offered as a “mystery” case.

@gtcharlie I love Casemates but they will never get another dollar from me for a mystery anything. Two cases of swill was enough for me.

@gtcharlie @lionel47 @pupator I have been with WD (for better or worse) since Ty’s legendary Field Blend on Woot almost 2 decades ago.

I have gone to lengths about how they abused the random and mystery wordage. I understand the hesitance.

My question is about the Two Jakes… that, just doesn’t sound like juice Clark had input in. Not to sound condescending, but was the wine just not to your liking? 4 bottles out of a case is a wildly large amount of bad bottles. Anyway, skip the mystery, to each their own, but you seriously had to dump 4 bottles of Two Jakes? That is some of the better juice I get on this site, although I missed the mystery case.

@KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator
Speaking for myself and my wife this was not a matter of personal preferences getting involved. Both bottles we have opened were undrinkable. Unless I guess you’re tastes run to vinegar. Simply put something happened to these bottles which has caused them to taste nothing like the positive comments I have seen previously. And the second bottle we went through the whole seven day process of decanting, filtering through cheesecloth, etc.

@gtcharlie @lionel47 @pupator Well that sounds like something you should contact Two Jakes, or, ya know, Clark.

I have been fortunate to be a “rat” for a lot of expensive bottles. You do not sully my palate with “vinegar” condescension. Good riddance.

@gtcharlie @KNmeh7 @pupator Look, I won’t go into the specifics here. What I can say is that I bought the case because I have never had a sub-par Two Jakes wine. I happen to have received four bottles of the 2012 Cabernet Franc that were undrinkable.

Now, I am not really concerned about contact Two Jakes, Clark or anyone else about it. I chalk it up to a lesson learned.

And I would expect that, as someone who has ratted his honest opinion, I can also provide my honest opinion and experience outside of ratting. They and we are all adults and should be able to handle uncomfortable truths.

“Good riddance”? I’m not going anywhere.

@KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator
Exactly. If you took it that I was insulting your palate you are wrong. I am stating what WE tasted. And for that matter smelled. These bottles are totally off. I too have ratted many times honestly saying our experiences with the wine. And as I said just above I gladly purchased two of the mystery magnums being offered today because I trust WD and this site. I am one hundred percent confident they had no idea these had turned in some way. Am I asking for a refund? Probably not. 4 more bottles left of the RR. Hoping a couple at least will be the wine you described. Will I continue to post if they are bad. You bet. Have a good day.

@gtcharlie @lionel47 @pupator You actually said that the wine tasted like vinegar. So sorry. As I mentioned, I did not get in on the case. Instead of insulting my palate…

“Unless I guess you’re tastes run to vinegar.”

Ya’ll can go fuck off. Contact Clark. Do not insult my palate. BTW, sour shit is where it is at. Brettomycans, Lactobacillus, and Pediococcus FTW.

BTW, who is “You Are?”

@gtcharlie @KNmeh7 @lionel47 Ahh, the internet at its finest. Choosing offense when it wasn’t there. I hope your day gets better.

@KNmeh7 really, it isn’t all that serious. I’m not sure why you take it personally but maybe just chill and take it down a few notches. Bad bottles happen and we pointed it out.

One of the reasons I enjoy coming here is to read other perceptions. Up to now, I don’t think I’ve ever run into obscenities on this forum. Sad that it happened today.

@gtcharlie @KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator He said you’d only like this if your taste ran to vinegar, which was indeed a prominent taste in the bottle that I opened. In fact, I suggested ‘pairing it’ with olive oil and seasonings as a salad dressing.

No, it isn’t a matter of taste preferences. WD and Clark have acknowledged the problem, and from what I’ve read (and experienced) it seems that bottles are either good or bad from the start - no partials.

@gtcharlie @KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator @rpstrong
Isn’t it clear by now that some of the bottles (maybe a large percentage) have a microbial problem? No-added sulfur wine can have that issue, which is why it can be hard to find.

FWIW, I also saw the “unless your tastes run to vinegar” as a needless ad hominem but c’est la vie.

I know that the bottles I received in my first batch several years ago have been fine thus far. We’ll see how these 4 come out, but I know I should keep them separate.

@klezman @KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator @rpstrong
Danger of posting in these forums is that someone can always interpret what you say in a manner in which it was not intended. My tastes run to vinegar was simply a reflection of what I tasted and not meant to imply someone elses tasting of this same wine. I get it. People have this wine in their cellar and received it in this shipment and everything is great. Certainly was not implying those people couldnt taste the wine for what it was and that their bottles had the vinegar taste and they simply didnt have the palate to taste it. Anyway I hope I get a couple of nice magnums…

@gtcharlie @klezman @KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator @rpstrong

My last two case purchases I had to throw down the kitchen sink… (these below)
Gard Mystery Case
Tercero Grenache

…and this Two Jakes of Diamonds Cabernet Franc was not at all palatable even after decanting for a week, and sifting through all the sediments using cheesecloth.

FWIW, I’me losing faith in Casemates, and Clark (Winesmith/Two Jakes) although I had good experiences in the past buying Clark’s wines from Casemates and earlier wine.woot.

@gtcharlie @klezman @KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator @rpstrong

So either Casemates and these wineries enhance their quality control checks before putting any wine on sale, or it won’t be long when many of us will opt-out to other buying options. Since past four months or so I have switched to buying these cases from Total Wine.

Flowers Pinot Noir Russian River Valley
Belle Glos Pinor Noir Dairyman Russian River Valley

Bit expensive than here, but while purchasing I’m confident and I have that peace of mind I won’t have to dump it down the kitchen sink.

@abhiabhi @gtcharlie @KNmeh7 @lionel47 @pupator @rpstrong you had to pour out Tercero and Gard ?!
I think the problem is with you, not the wine. And yes, I have the same Tercero case. Larry has never produced a flawed wine.

@abhiabhi

My purchasing has dropped to almost zero for the same reason. My posting has dropped to the same level because of the handful of daily-loyalists of this forum who simply cannot abide someone sharing a negative experience. No matter how many of us there are, the problem is always with us, never the bottle of wine.

@pupator couldn’t be father from the truth. I’m commenting that I’ve had dozens of bottles of Tercero and regardless of preferences there has literally never been a bad/flawed bottle. To say it was only suitable for putting down the drain is just ludicrous.
I haven’t had the Gard wines so I’m not in a position to opine.
Clark’s wines can definitely be polarizing, so I’m not finding any fault there either.

@skubaryk way too many times. There have been so many good offers and the mystery ones get me

@benjyhe The foam boxes are great for slowing daily temperature variation (more important than ‘cellar temperature’). My ‘cellar’ is stacked foam boxes (sideways!) in my basement.

Get a CASE of the Cheer. They’ll last and get better for decade, but cheap enough to protect the rest of your stash. DECANT heavily and leave half a bottle for a few days later.

@benjyhe @wardad After my duct taped together carton stacks began to sag and tilt, I built basic shelving custom sized to tightly fit the cartons. I now have secure storage for around 250 bottles in/on two units.

Not pretty, but it works!

@rpstrong Mind posting a photo of your setup? I’m looking for a more elegant situation that what I’ve got (stashed anywhere there is floorspace in my basement)

@skubaryk I’ll do that in a bit.

@benjyhe @wardad Got a case of cheer, gave out some of my 2018 today to some folks.

@skubaryk Here’s one of my shelving units. Each shelf will hold two rows of 2x2 or 2x3 bottle cartons, plus 4 2x3s on top:

which was as high as wanted to reach and, besides, was all the room I needed:

Of course, this is where I am now:

with a second unit opposite.

Stacked a bit higher than I’d planned, but at least it’s pretty stable.

@rpstrong thanks so much!! I think a hardware store trip might be in future on this rainy Sunday

@skubaryk A handy thing about the 2/3/4/6/12 bottle cartons is that are very adaptable to available width. All of my enclosed shelf spaces are four bottles high, but one unit is eight bottles wide and the other is seven. The horizontal rails extend below the shelves (to the ground on the bottom) in order to be a backstop for stacked cartons.

@rpstrong @skubaryk Wow impressive! Ideas for the future…

@rpstrong @skubaryk very nice construction
I’ve got the same setup but on a wire rack and no boxes, only foam. My overflow containers (and there’s too many!) still have the box, on the floor, NEVER stacked more than 3 high

@skubaryk @ttboy23 Pix?

@rpstrong @skubaryk @ttboy23 I built an enclosure against my basement wall using left over pieces of structural plywood(OSB)/foam panels, with larger pieces to go across the front to seal it up thermally. Used to have just boxes stacked up in it, but got too nervous about playing ‘bottle Jenga’ as I pulled out random bottles, so I eventually found wire racks that fit perfectly! Temps vary very slowly winter-summer, but hold steady without fluctuations. Works great.

@drgonzo99 nice. I almost bought some of those racks months ago! I think they are still in my saved for later cart on Amz

@drgonzo99 @skubaryk @ttboy23 Damn, looks like that insulation should hold an ice cube through the summer.

1.5l 2009 Schug Merlot
1.5l MV Zeppelin Magnum Farce
750 2017 Smith Story PN The Boonies
750 2017 Mustilli Artus

Interesting selection and at least a little different than what everyone else got.

@deadlyapp bring 'em to Denver for our wine and cheese party! We usually get through an obscene volume of wine

@knlprez that is an awful lot of work with two babies lol

@deadlyapp not with that attitude!

@WCCWineGirl
Do tell!

@kawichris650 LoL. I can tell you this, FOMO should be permeating.

@kawichris650 @WCCWineGirl not enough info to tempt us off the fence!

@kawichris650 @klezman @WCCWineGirl
Got me to bite the bullet with this!

@bunnymasseuse same “problem” here. So I’m trying to push the rope by buying, then partying.

@radiolysis I just shared 6 reg bottles with folks today, have to give out bunny bottles if I’m ordering more, have to make room in the bunny den!

@knlprez you deserve nothing but coals

@deadlyapp it’s never a matter of deserving

@deadlyapp @knlprez

https://americasbestpics.com/picture/i-don-t-deserve-this-deserve-got-nothing-to-do-jfqBieNGA?s=cl

@stever52 I just ordered a twofer!?

Yeah! I wish I could go back and change my two single orders to a double order and save $10.

@Zortapa 2 packs sold out again, but for future reference you could cancel your single orders then order the double. Violà!

@hscottk I tried to cancel the single as you suggest, but the cancel button was nowhere to be found. The only options open to me were to sit on that single single order or place a second single order.

@hscottk @Zortapa In such cases, a direct appeal to their always helpful customer service department will usually suffice.

@rpstrong @Zortapa Agreed. From view orders / order details / I need help” area you select “I have an issue with my order” and explain the situation.

@hscottk @rpstrong Frankly, I’m not going to whine to CM about this. I was only given the option to buy a single mag, and if I didn’t like it I could easily have passed. But it is frustrating that this offer was a moving target.

@hscottk @rpstrong @Zortapa Nope, no combining singles into a double:

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We aren't able to do that sorry about that!                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                             
Thanks!  

@rpstrong @simtel20 @Zortapa I think the idea was to order a double when it became available again (it went in and out of stock) then ask support to cancel your order of the single bottle.

@SoSmellyAir
Pretty much like you may expect, just larger than for a 750

@rjquillin @SoSmellyAir almost always styro. Unless you happened to buy the wine clubs from Stillman

@deadlyapp my Wine Club barely made the trip. So here’s hoping WCC uses more tape this time.

@dirtdoctor Sometimes I don’t get the shipping notice until the day of or after delivery.

@dirtdoctor Nope and hoping the same for similar reasons.

@dirtdoctor I’ve been wondering the same

@dirtdoctor I see a couple tracking numbers from WCC in transit in the UPS app. It’s either one tracking number for each case I got or one for the 2 cases of Cheer and 1 for the mystery magnums. Might check the UPS app. They probably just haven’t updated the order statuses.

@dirtdoctor @maht87 I ordered one case of Cheer and one two-pack of mystery magnums. Only one active WCC tracking number listed as 39lbs, which is a typical case from past experience. So I think the Cheer is on the way.

@dirtdoctor @maht87 @sndg yup mine says cheer in the description of the ups tracking

@dirtdoctor I’m starting to get nervous too. I wanted this for Xmas, but worse I’m leaving town for a bit a few days later.

@dirtdoctor @Ten9Eight
mystery mag and cheer still processing

@dirtdoctor @rjquillin @Ten9Eight cheer will arrive by christmas. mystery magnum is logistically very challenging and taking longer in the que. i think we’ll get them all out this week.

@Winedavid49 I hope that due to late shipping these don’t arrive over the weekend and sit in a holding area with a post xmas delivery.

@dirtdoctor @rjquillin @Ten9Eight @Winedavid49 just got an email from Meh that my Cheers has been delayed. They gave me a $5 coupon
FYI

@dirtdoctor @losthighwayz @rjquillin @Ten9Eight @Winedavid49 Ditto, gues the staff Christmas gift will be delayed

@dirtdoctor @losthighwayz @rjquillin @Ten9Eight @Winedavid49 Ditto here

@Winedavid49 Any update?

@Winedavid49 Is it possible to update my shipping address. If it ships late this week, I likely won’t be there for delivery due to holiday travel.

@Winedavid49 So disappointed to read this thread as I skipped the Cheers offer on Meh & the Mystery Magnum due to my holiday travel only to see it probable would have worked out…so my woe win some lose some. Hope you have wonderful holidays & thank you for providing us Casematers such great offers

@dawnlac @Winedavid49 this is why the estimated shipping and delivery windows should be respected. People plan on them.

@jmdavidson1 @Winedavid49 CHEER will be HERE soon

@ttboy23 @Winedavid49 No cheer here. Waiting for mystery mags.

@dawnlac @klezman @Winedavid49 Well, worse, the delivery folk gotta get a sig, so this (and related waiting when I might not be proverbially nigh) is going to make them hate seeing my house.

Darn it all, meh! Humbug!!!

@dirtdoctor They ruined XMAS. Was supposed to arrive yesterday and they didnt bother to ship. “Chad” in CS was exceedingly rude to me and just didnt care

@dawnlac @klezman @stinks @Winedavid49 I wonder if a verbal acknowledgement over a doorbell cam would suffice?

[I’m fortunate enough to live in an area where porch piracy is unheard of, and where my regular driver doesn’t even bother knocking - he just leaves it like any other package.]

@norwayhalf EDIT: HOPEFULLY

@ThomasF Just got my notification. Thank you.

@stever52 @ThomasF Ditto. Delivery next Thursday. That’s better than it sitting in a UPS warehouse over the 3-day weekend.

@Zortapa ugh, can you re-adjust? I guess no…

@bunnymasseuse I’m heading back home on the 28th and UPS won’t let these be redirected, unless WCC does it.

@Zortapa Send in a support ticket, we’ll see if we can get UPS to adjust it before it gets too far.

@ThomasF Done. Two separate orders. Thank you.

@ThomasF It seems that your suggestion has fallen on deaf ears. Here’s the official reply to the support ticket that I submitted. “This order has already shipped. You’ll have to contact UPS to forward this one. We are unable to do it from our end.”

@Zortapa Sorry, just responded, gonna pass it along to WCC fulfillment to see if they can get it sorted. CS general policy is that we can’t adjust addresses once placed/shipped, so that was the initial response.

@ThomasF @Zortapa I have found with WCC UPS shipments, only WCC can redirect to ~other than a location that appears on a list~ when you attempt to request “hold at location”, the recipient can do that type of redirect, after a first delivery attempt, to an approved location somewhat near the original ship-to address.

Too many words to try to explain a simple action.
You can redirect for hold to a nearby facility, but not to one not on the list when you try; WCC must request that.

@Zortapa They dont care dude/ Reverse your charge

@atamul1 And they just don’t care

Hey @arfdawg - I found your support cases and responded.

@arfdawg could you be clear on what, exactly, he did to be rude? Email is hardly a great communication method for conveying nuance and in my experience it’s more often than not the recipient who grafts on their own interpretation than the sender being rude or otherwise nasty.

@arfdawg yea, that big cancellation got to me.
Bummer.

Fwiw, this offer was deliberately not publicized as guaranteed by Christmas. We were trying, but it’s a very complicated logistical offer to fulfill.

Happy holidays

@klezman “Chad” got increasingly rude, inappropriate and obnoxious. It wa clear he didnt care one bit. THen it got escalated and it wasnt much better. They should have just refunded me. PERIOD. I’ve been spending THOUSANDS with the various Meh sites. And that’s how I’m treated?Stay away from these clowns. They don’t care.

@arfdawg you expect a refund because something arrives later than estimated? Wow

@arfdawg @Winedavid49
And Merry Christmas for those that do that one.

@arfdawg you also didn’t actually answer my question. I don’t know what you consider to be increasingly rude. Did he call you names? Tell you to go suck a lemon?

You’re showing a surprisingly large amount of hate for a relatively simple issue that WD signalled early on. And I’m sure any recipient of a gift would be understanding of a doing delay making it late for xmas.

@klezman Learn the English language. I expect a refund because CASMATES did not honor their contract with me which promised delivery YESTERDAY when thye didn’t didnt even bother to ship it. And then they were derisive about the entire ordeal. I’m not paying. This is shear incompetence and if you think it isnt there is somethign WRNG with you, so just slink away.

@rjquillin @Winedavid49 Glad you enjoy getting rpped off. You must work for them

@arfdawg @Winedavid49
I have happily purchased 2248 bottles from Casemates, that I know of. Are there a few that didn’t live up, sure; will I go away given one bad experience, or even a few? Nope.

@arfdawg at the risk of feeding the troll, the is no contract for delivery by a certain date. And your reactions to all this seem to suggest that your behaviour is no better than my 7 year old’s, who responds to everything they don’t like with “you’re rude!”

Like others who’ve posted here, I’ve been purchasing from WCC since 2008. I’m not afraid to speak out when they make a mistake (see, e.g., sending out wine during Thanksgiving week when that wasn’t in the delivery window). But every problem was resolved to my satisfaction. Every single one. It’s not their fault that you have unreasonable expectations.

@arfdawg @rjquillin @Winedavid49
Wow! 2248 bottles the question is have you drank any of them

@ScottW58 @Winedavid49
568 that CT knows of, but CT misses a lot…

@arfdawg @rjquillin @ScottW58
LOL. I’m storing a few.

@arfdawg @rjquillin @Winedavid49 arf I’m guessing you regularly receive what you interpret as bad customer service, and it’s clearly a result of you being an asshole.

@klezman The delivery window was clear. You not having anyone to give a Christmas present to is your issue.

@CruelMelody @rjquillin @Winedavid49 Stop projecting.

@CruelMelody I see the level of civiity among users here is the same as CS. Good luck with your neanderthal life, knuckle dragger.

@arfdawg Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Fascinating to me that you spend so much time projecting negativity. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

@coolac5 LOL! Says the troll whose entire post is negative. Thanks for the best laff yet. Too bad we’re laffing AT you and not WITH you. Change your scren name to UNcooldoper

@arfdawg I’ll give you a thousand bucks to quit bitching and never post on any of these sites again. The fact that you’re shitting all over what people received with your fake total wine prices shows that you’re definitely a liar. So, whatever happened between you and Chad, I’m on team Chad.

@arfdawg @klezman I know the English language quite well, and I noticed a few strange things in your usage of the language. An estimated delivery date, or range of dates, is not a promise or a contract. Strangely enough, it’s only an estimate. Whenever something is guaranteed to be delivered by a certain date, typically a holiday like Christmas, they will specifically say it in the listing, or mention it in the comments. If the person for whom you purchased these wines as a gift is as unreasonable and unhinged as you, then I can see why you’re upset, since it’s almost certain that you’ll be stabbed or beaten if they don’t receive their gift on time. I’ll ignore your spelling mistakes, since you have more serious issues with the English language. Please don’t consider this or any other posts of mine to be a promise or contract.

@arfdawg @coolac5 who is the “we” that is laughing? It seems painfully obvious that you’re alone in whatever position you’ve taken. I’d be laughing at you if I didn’t suspect mental illness to be the cause of your anger. Just kidding! I’m laughing at you despite your mental illness!

@Teim that magnum is a great score! Excellent California style Pinot but always with ample acidity. I think the bonus is a daily drinker based on my recollection of pricing.

@Teim Glad YOU got it on time. I didnt, and I had to deal with CHAD in CS who was a comoete jerk to me. I want a refund. I cancelled all my orders from here. Like a thousand bucks. Not a reputable company

@arfdawg You have made your point. Leave. I personally love this site and will keep buying from them even if stuff happens.

@danandlisa You leave. I’m never buying here again. THey hate their customers. Now go back to your hole inthe ground

@arfdawg I don’t really agree with you. I’ve been buying wine from WCC for 10+ years and whatever occasional issue I’ve had has been rectified.
As noted above this offer was never promised by Christmas, and from past experience random offers take longer to pack. I bought 2 orders, one is a Christmas gift and I bought it fingers crossed. If it doesn’t make it by Christmas I’m not losing sleep over it. I’m on the west coast and both orders will be delivered tomorrow.

I’m sorry you had a bad experience with this one but I’m guessing the rudeness if it happened went both ways.

@arfdawg Happy Holidays. I wish you well in your future endeavors. I am drinking a wine I got here and enjoying the evening.

@danandlisa You leave if you don’t like my opinion. Another weasle who wants to censor and cancel people with different truths.

@CorTot y dlivery window came and went, so it WAS promised by Xmas. And then CHAD threatened me after showing no remorse whatsoever.

@arfdawg @CorTot “You talk far too much, for someone so unkind.” - CHVRCHES

@KNmeh7 Thanks for your msg. I will give it all the attention it deserves.

@KNmeh7
I CHVRCHES

@CorTot Your “guess” just smacks of ignorance.

@StingingJ

@StingingJ WOW! (The Wellington!) The rest is cool too.

@StingingJ Looks like a great mystery. Enjoy!

@StingingJ $6, $7, $4, $5, $8, $7, $9, and $7 on total wine

@StingingJ A mag of welly, outstanding!

@StingingJ lol, this is the way to legally offload old woot stock. Jealous of the Wellington. Nice score

@jaybird @StingingJ one hell of a haul! Mazal tov!

@jammyt Funny, I got the EXACT same four bottles. I’m rather disappointed. Pinot is the one varietal that we dislike and the two mags are for me “Meh” at best. But that’s the chance taken on the mystery buys.

@jammyt
Big fan of the Wine Club. No opinion on the others specifically but did not care much for a Fossil Point Rose we bought previously. OTOH, have enjoyed the Vinum wines I have tried.

@jammyt What vintages?

@rjquillin

Wine Club/Zeppelin Magnum Farce - 21
Pomorosso Coppo - 14
Fossil Point Pinot Noir - 20
Vinum Cellars Pinot Noir 19

@jammyt
I had a Vinum Cellars White Elephant from the old site that was decent; doesn’t count here.

If you got the 2014 Coppo Barbera d’Asti Pomorosso CT suggests it should be quite tasty.
Average Value: $45.86; $115.40 (1.5L)

Got nothing on Swilly

Couple of favorable notes on the Fossil Point at ~$15/750

@jammyt Fossil Point PN is quite nice.

@CorTot Five bucks each on total wine

@arfdawg @CorTot

@arfdawg @CorTot Really!? I’d like to see those links, I’d be all over that mag of Meadowcroft at a fiver.

@arfdawg thank you for your absolute shit post.

@arfdawg @CorTot Link? Did not see at my local location. ty in advance

@cmaldoon You’ve been a long time gone/silent.
Good to see you’re still hangin’ in here.

@cmaldoon nice to see you here! How’s life?

@klezman @rjquillin. Yeah yeah. Still in the same area workin the same job but I had a kid and hit my cellar max around the same time a few years back so have pulled back. Still tracking the deals on occasion but rarely pull the trigger. I have put a good dent in the local cellar though. I may be under 20 cases instead of over 30. Kinda makes me feel old though when I have bottles of Napa Cab that I bought new that are now to be considered well aged and even getting a bit old (I have quite a few ‘05s hanging around!)

@Cerridwyn Nobody needed to do that, it showed up pre-antagonized.

@Cerridwyn I’m in the same boat. I’ve got some excellent Wellington magnums and I never seen to have reason to open them. One of these days!

@Cerridwyn @klezman Open that bottle night?

@Cerridwyn @davirom it’s more that I need enough people there to warrant it while also being able to open more than one bottle.

@jcpseattle that’s an excellent score. Hawk and Horse is making great stuff, and if you’re in to celebrity wine things, I think it’s Richard Peterson who started it.
The Monkey Second Prize isn’t shabby either!

@jcpseattle I couldn’t help myself and drank one of the Wrath wines tonight. I’m glad I read reviews on vivino first and waited until dessert to serve it. It was amazing, but super sweet and poppy like cherry soda. Definitely worth drinking but I would have been upset trying to pair it with our lamb dinner.

@mgowhoo A mystery containing an enigma! Hey @WineDavid49, do you happen to know whose shiners you sent out?

@InFrom @mgowhoo @Winedavid49
Didn’t Swilly send out some of those?
Does it have a dot on the cork?

@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49 no dot, generic black foil, no name on the cork (I removed the foil to investigate)

@InFrom @mgowhoo @rjquillin yikes! can you take a picture of it? i bet we can figure this out! apologies.

@mgowhoo That makes it truly a mystery magnum, no?

@mgowhoo curious if you were able to figure this out

@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49

@InFrom @rjquillin @Winedavid49 black foil capsule, nothing else of note that I could find!

@InFrom @mgowhoo @Winedavid49
@ZeppelinWinery Stillman

@InFrom @mgowhoo @rjquillin @Winedavid49 I DONT USE FOILS

@klezman https://casemates.com/forum/topics/zeppelin-winery-red-wine-combo

@CruelMelody it’s different than that one. One of the pictures above was just clear enough that I could make out 52% Syrah, 27% Tannat, 21% Tempranillo. Or maybe 57%/22%. Couldn’t tell how high octane.

@jmdavidson1 mine must be with yours. I’m out if town so I won’t see them until Sunday anyhow.

@jmdavidson1 My 2 2-packs have been sitting somewhere in Illinois since Christmas Eve morning, en route to NEOhio. Awesome! #bigbrownstinkslikebigbrown

POPSOCKETS! COURT DOCKETS! FOLK ROCK HITS! AWESOME!

@karenhynes AT least the weather is temperate enough that the wine shouldn’t be affected by sitting in a semi this long.

@rjquillin shoot, did not intend to do that.

@rjquillin Absolutely nothing for the vintage on CT. Looks like you have yourself a Barbera 4-pack?

@Winedavid49
Hey, nothing you could do, it’s the warehouse guys.
You load boxes, they sit, and then you slap labels on them. Absolutely good with the mags; a bit of variety in the 750’s would have helped tho…

@shrimp74
Barb and Pinot; yup.
All four in CT, just not much info.

@klezman Folio. Good stuff.

@Winedavid49 yeah, but what is it?

@klezman 2014 COPPO POMOROSSO

@klezman @Winedavid49 here’s the WE rating for it if it helps:
This is the 30th anniversary edition of this wine and it doesn’t disappoint. It opens with intense dark-skinned berry, exotic spice, blue flower and French oak aromas. The savory and fresh palate delivers crushed red cherry, cassis, licorice and espresso flavors structured with fine-grained tannins. Bright acidity lends balance while a mineral note lingers on the finish. Drink through 2029. — Kerin O’Keefe

@klezman @Winedavid49
They’re really blowing some stuff out

@Winedavid49 so then why doesn’t it say Barbera d’Asti on the front label?! That would have made it simple.

@klezman @Winedavid49
That did make it a bit interesting to find in CT, but it was there

@klezman I think they devoted the label space on the front to celebrating their 30th anniversary. It does say Barbera D’Asti prominently on the back.

@PHRoG you got two great magnums of Pinot noir and two of Barbera that are generally considered good based on the 40 second I spent looking them up.

@klezman @PHRoG
Welcome to that same club, 2 of everything.

@klezman I was able to find the Barbara when I initially looked…can’t seem to find anything on the other though.

@klezman @rjquillin woo hoo! At least I’m not alone, . Do we gets membership cards?

@klezman @PHRoG
Urgency

Friends

Pomorosso

What does the back of the 4th look like?

@klezman @rjquillin here ya go!

Also, an interesting note, it’s sealed with wax, not foil/paper!

@klezman @PHRoG
Hein Roessler

Roessler has done some fine PN.
I’ve still got five or six cases from when WD was blowing out some 2008 and 2009 vintage bottles.

@klezman @rjquillin Nice!! Thank you for the assist there.

Another question, if ya don’t mind…link says to drink by 2023. I know that’s not exactly an expiration date, but, any guidance on what that actually means? Is it suggesting it goes bad, flavor-wise, by then?

@PHRoG @rjquillin CT drinking window dates are, for me, vastly too short. And these are in magnum, so they age more slowly (and a bit differently) than regular size bottles. With a 2013 I’d guess you have at least until the end of the decade before it drops off.

@klezman @rjquillin Gotcha!

Thanks to both of you for helping this ignorant chap out here…def leaning into the more excited category on the score now.

Someday I hope to have the time to learn more about this stuff, it has always been interesting to me, there’s just soooo much info out there on this subject is overwhelming each time I try to go down that rabbit hole.

/giphy appreciated

@klezman @PHRoG
It’s a very slippery slope

@PHRoG @rjquillin pull lots of corks, remember what you drink

@klezman @PHRoG @rjquillin are both magnum twins the same vintage?

@klezman @losthighwayz @rjquillin Yup! Both are exactly the same, 2 x Hein - 2013 and 2 x Barbera - 2014.

@klezman @PHRoG
@rpm said, a long time ago…

pull lots of corks, remember what you drink

@knlprez Nice haul!
Not much ullage however in the Welly.
I’d peel the capsule and check cork integrity.

@rjquillin good call, I’ll check it this evening when I get back home.

@knlprez @rjquillin yeah, I think you win so far!
I’ve had lots of good luck with leaky bottles not having any real flaws. And like Ron said, there’s not much wine missing from the bottle. Probably bodes well for the rest of the contents.
The Hawk and Horse is good stuff. That’d be great to see a sale here instead of Wine Spies.

@knlprez That Juliet is worth the price of the offer. My recommendation would be to cellar it.

@klezman @rjquillin I’m really happy with what we received! A couple familiar faces and some known quality juice. Even if the Wellington is a bust and oxidized, I’m a happy camper!

@jmdavidson1 we typically like cabs with at least 10 years of age on them, so it’s going to be stuffed into the back of the cellar and forgotten about for about a decade

I appreciate the heads-up!

@knlprez I do the same.
It took +1 a while to understand that, but now she gets it.

@jmdavidson1 @knlprez
Geeze, I can just plain misplace them for longer than that

@rjquillin here’s my assessment of the cork, but I’d appreciate any knowledge you would care to share!

I took a peak at the cork, and the prognosis is not great. To me, it looks like the cork failed and has been leaking for some time (see the first pic), and possibly leaking from a second spot more recently, possibly during transport (second pic).

The cork is extremely soft; it’s going to be tricky to extract even with an Ah-So. We have it standing up now to drink New Year’s Eve. I would have preferred to wait longer, but that cork is shot. Hopefully it’s still good, but we will see in a few days!

Here’s some pics before I wiped off the residue and of the capsule:

@knlprez Yeah, that one long vein most likely the culprit. I think (hopefully) you’ll still be surprised.
Don’t forget to pour me a taste.

@rjquillin The long vein has definitely been leaking for a while, but the other side also looks like it was leaking. I am fully expecting an intact wine with great maturity. Now we just need to decide what to drink next to it… I think we have a couple 2003 Cuvee Rs remaining… begins rummaging through the cellar

@knlprez
Don’t forget the Durand, or the knock off from China

@rjquillin I really need to get one, but the Ah-So typically does the job… we’ll see!

@knlprez @rjquillin My Welly signed Syrah (2001?) had a leaking cork, similar, didn’t touch it, opened it 5/2021, nothing lost, no oxidation. I would have faith

@bunnymasseuse @rjquillin Thanks for the data point! How long did you keep it before opening? Did you store it upright?

@bunnymasseuse @knlprez
NEVER upright except for short, <1 year, storage (imo).
Horizontal or inverted to keep the cork wet.

@knlprez @rjquillin I had it NOT upright, but had the same amount of leakage you had, and I came out ok on my mag… was really concerned but I was delighted it wasn’t a loss.

I had mine since the day I got it, so from either here or at w00t.

@bunnymasseuse @knlprez
Cleaning up today for company coming Monday I just found a mag of '01 Victory and 3x '07 750’s as well; not upright.

@knlprez @rjquillin I just checked my remaining Mag, also a leaker , but the other one had a protruded cork (it had popped up some, vs this is one is flush), so we will see when I open up how it is, whenever I decide to do that.

@bunnymasseuse @rjquillin All our bottles are horizontal in the cellar, minus for a couple days when standing them up before opening to allow sediment to settle. I was asking in regards to the leaking cork. Ideally we would wait a couple weeks at least post-shipment before opening a bottle, especially if it has sediment and some age on it. I think you both have me convinced we should be safe to wait on this one.

@knlprez @rjquillin My Welly Mag is a 2001, so assuming same corks, and behavior, I think now vs then won’t make much difference.

@dmyers314 This one is a WOW.

@shrimp74 price direct from winery. CT can be a sale price from wherever

@CruelMelody So do you have any better info? Maybe I was looking at the wrong wine on CellarTracker.

@shrimp74 well his website is strange but the magnum was listed at 120.00 last time it was posted. I’m hoping to receive that magnum in my set, he makes great wine.

@CruelMelody Thanks much for the info. Bought the last deal (I think) that he offered on here with the Riesling-esque magnum bottle of Petite Syrah from his wine club and 2 bottles of Constructo. Haven’t touched them yet, and think this bottle will also have a nice long rest before I think about opening.

@shrimp74 I could throw some yeast in a bottle of my concord grapes and tell you it is worth $100. We all got played.

I wouldn’t pay 20 for most of these over-produced couldn’t-sell mags.

@shrimp74 Stillman’s wines sell for $54.00 for 750ml. these are good wines.

@KNmeh7 thanks for your thoughtful insight. I’d love to hear what you had to say after you purchased said wine.

@Winedavid49 Thanks for this info. Love the varietals in the blend! Can’t wait to give this a try - in 10 years after a good, long rest.

@shrimp74 I’m 99 percent sure a Stillman magnum is at least $100 winery price. I’d say you scored on this bottle for sure

@jmdavidson1 Hell no! I am disappointed in a lot of these reveals. Except for the 3 Wellingtons, I am not exactly seeing anything that screams “WOAH!” I think, at this point, everyone knows what is coming, which is sad.

I don’t even want to open my two. If I were a betting man, it is a Pomorosso and a Schug.

@jmdavidson1 @KNmeh7 Yeah, I’ve seen some highs and lows here. Much as I’m a long-time Pedroncelli fan, I would be disappointed to get a mag of the Mother Clone and a 750 of Friends Red. But seeing that at least helps me tamp down my expectations. Box is on the truck today.

@InFrom @KNmeh7 IMHO, “at least” one bottle of 4 should have been a decent pick up.

@InFrom @jmdavidson1 @KNmeh7 so i’m pretty bummed we messed up with the redundant bottles. i packed many of these myself, the multiple offers were the first to be run and we believe there was a misunderstanding on instruction and are a handful impacted. i plan to do something about that. the largest purchasers should have all had different wines. huge mistake. my fault.

@dirtdoctor
I was wrong, the 2nd mag is a 2014 Lennox RRV Pinot Noir, but it is also bottled by Roessler.

@dirtdoctor I had a heck of a time getting the Hein mag out of the foam, even tried one person holding the neck of the bottle and the other trying to pull the foam away. I finally had to cut the foam to get a little wiggle room.

@danidani12 @WCCWineGirl

“This insider rat asked WD just where are these mags coming from & when he rattled off the wineries, I was like !!! Happy Holidays CMers & Cheers!”

Can you explain to me the second two exclamations? I see a Wellington (impossible to get, a true gem) and then. . . average mags. Are we in for something crazy when the ships come in? Otherwise, seriously? "Like !!! for a Pedroncelli Zin mag. That barely makes the 80 dollar promise. No one even knows about that Barbera, except “folio!” as if that is convincing.

@danidani12 @WCCWineGirl The ONLY people that have received a Wellington are people who bought two 2x. That is not a coincidence.

So, to tell me the warehouse people made the coincidence is either to acknowledge that some shipments get the packing instructions from the high ups, or tell us we are stupid. If you did not order 4 magnums, you are not going to get a Wellington. That is my summary.

There is nothing to be had here other than what you see. Sigh.

@danidani12 @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl Not true. I ordered two sets and got twins, with no Wellington.

@danidani12 @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl
Ah, the world of conspiracy theories that we now live in. Maybe it could be just as simple as they have a statistically greater chance to receive a Wellington or that it’s just happen chance. Not everything has to be someone plotting for/against a certain group of people.

@danidani12 @dirtdoctor @WCCWineGirl “Conspiracy theory?” WTF are you on about? I am simply pointing out that the ONLY PEOPLE who got a Wellington ORDERD 2x 2x.

No fucking “conspiracy.” You think an archeologist who notices all this shit happened to these fossils at this date is a conspiracy theorist?

I am observing, and made an observation. Until ANYONE who ordered less than 2x 2x gets a Wellington, then yea, my assumption is valid.

@jmdavidson

Obviously you are not guaranteed a Wellie (Gordon Ramsay shouting) but at least you had your hat in the drawing.

@KNmeh7 I reread your post and it clearly states that you assumed that the “higher ups” told warehouse folks that only certain orders could/would receive a bottle that you view as more valuable than others. By definition, you are suggesting people conspired to achieve a certain outcome, hence a “conspiracy theory”. You did not just state an observation.

The comment that your assumption/theory is valid unless someone that ordered 1 set receives a Wellington is not entirely accurate. That assumption/theory is indeed possible, but 2 data points is not statistically significant and does not validate a theory. Without having more data/information, I’d suggest the randomness of packing and shipping is likely the more probable theory.

@danidani12 @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl just curious how much Wellington you thought there was to go around?
I asked above and the answer was “not much”, so if you got your hopes up for a wellington that was probably in error.
I agree I’d be less than totally happy with a magnum of Pedroncelli or Scott Harvey red label (tasty as both of those are), but that’s always the thing with a mystery offer.
As for what was packed where, imo the real conspiracy evidence would be if only old timer favoured names for them. I don’t see that happening here.

@klezman @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl I’m just super bummed that both of mine are less than $80 retail.

@danidani12 curious what you received?

@danidani12 @klezman @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl if it makes you feel better, I’m sure the Wellington was well under $80 retail for a magnum when released, unless it was a mag of Victory.

@danidani12 @klezman I have seen 4 Wellingtons. All 4 were from people that ordered 2x 2x. (Including the 750)

I never assumed I would get a wellington. Do not put words in my mouth. My point is that as of now, there is nothing of note except for the Wellingtons. No other fantastic bottles. This was a bummer.

@danidani12 @klezman @knlprez @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl @winedavid49
I paid 96.97 for a mag of 2001 Wellington Syrah Reserve on 2017-07-07 from Woot. Retail from Peter was most assuredly greater than $80.
Order Number: #58407844 https://wine.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=7188748 Good notes from Peter

I do shed a tear we no longer have access to that trove of information in the W00t forums.

@danidani12 @klezman @KNmeh7 @rjquillin @WCCWineGirl @Winedavid49 Was that during the magnum clear-out sale? We bought the maximum of each and I wish I created a second account and ordered more!

@danidani12 @klezman @knlprez @KNmeh7 @WCCWineGirl @Winedavid49
hehehe